Red Pill ExampleThe Man That Build A Life From Nothing (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood


After reading "What Craigslist taught me about abundance mentality" by /u/SILV3R-BACK, a story about him learning that your time is sacred and abundance mentality is a must. When it comes to time and efficiently using it, you and you alone are the only man on this planet that controls your destiny.

Today I want to share a story with you today that happen 50 years ago. A time when men where men and valuable for being a good one. A story about the most redpill man I've ever known and a master at spending his time wisely, my grandfather.


My Grandfather & Grandmother were depression era children. My Grandmother grew up in a dirt floor log cabin with no running water. She was born premature and the Indian housemaid wanted to throw her out back because she didn't think my grandma would live past a year. My great grandmother wouldn't have any of it, they put her in the wood stove to keep her warm. My grandma didn't even have shoes growing up and didn't have electricity till she was 12.

My grandfather grew up with a drunk father that couldn't hold a job if his life depended on it. He dropped out of school in the 6th grade at the age of 12 to start working to provide for his family. At 19 years old my grandfather met my grandmother and they married within the year. They grew up knowing full well how much a dollar is really worth and more importantly, how much a minute of your life is worth. My grandfather could and would easily work 16 hour days, 6 days a week and he'd do 7 days if grandma wasn't religious and made him go to church every sunday.

My grandfather at the age of 20 started his own business. He built his from scratch in an 8x8 garage back in 1951. Later on in the 1970's my grandmother would go on to start her own business, which is now one of the most accredited of it's kind in the entire state. Today my grandfathers business owns 3 locations and an floor space of around 80,000sqr ft. But one story in particular with the evolution of the business stuck with me since i first heard it as a child.


The Unstoppable Man

My grandfather was a no bullshit, get your work done, don't talk, don't bitch and don't ever be late, kinda guy. I can't tell you how many people have been fired by my father or grandfather for being late their very first day on the job. Back then you could be fired for just for talking on the job. He was a man that could command respect just by stepping foot in a room. He could silence another with a single sentence. He once caught an 8 year old kid stealing a quarter from his house and told him, "Never step foot on this land again, i have no use for a thief". Hardcore redpill. My grandfather eventually hired his own father, a drunk but luckily he had a photographic memory which turned out to be extremely useful in certain areas. (Law 33 - Discover Each Man’s Thumbscrew)

Around the 1960's our business was expanding and we needed more room to continue operating. My grandfather saw this need long before it was urgent so he began saving money back for the new expenses. (Law 29 - plan to the end). He was a master of foresight and always hoped for the best but planned for the worst. He was also a perfectionist, my father recounts that grandpa on quite a few occasions would spend hours re-balancing a check book just to find out why the books are a few pennies off.

Eventually he saved enough to put down on a loan. Back then a man could shake another man's hand and that was good enough to be a legal transaction. He starting searching for some land to buy. Eventually he found a farmer willing to sell some acres to help my grandfather out. He was an extremely proud but humble man, he loved his family and was proud of everything he was able to provide for them but never flaunted it and was always hospitable to anyone no matter where they came from. He didn't care about race, background, heritage or any of that, to him a mans value was how well he could work. He probably learned this humility from my grandma, a woman that would cook dinners for train hitchhikers that jumped the cars for a nights stay. Yes, just like the Elvis Presley scene in Forest Gump. I have never met a woman more kind than her, I've heard her cuss twice in 26 years. She is genuinely the best human being I've ever met. If some women have shown me the worst of women's nature, she has shown me the gold standard of what a woman can become(yes, i know, pipe dream in today's society).

I think my father was around 5-10 years old at this time. He recounts visiting the new land a few times to play as my grandfather and some of his workers started hauling in lumber and building the new building. Back then every man had some form of experience in woodworking, you didn't typically hire contracting companies unless you are buildings something really big. It took over a year to complete the entire project and my grandfather spent at minimum 4 hours a day, every day constructing it on top of his 10-16 hour work day. Once it was finished they were getting ready to start prepping the machinery and equipment to move it to then new location.

Then one day my dad was playing out in the yard with his friends. My grandparents back then lived very far from town and the one road leading to the house was a dirt road miles long. They had an old dog that would lay in the road all day since maybe 1 or 2 cars would come down it a day. The dog could always tell when it was grandpa coming home though as he would stand up and start wagging it's tail. Like clock work, the dog stands up, waging his take and excited, like his master hasn't been home in years. My father can see his truck slowly making it's way down the dirt road, kicking up dust miles away. Finally he pulls up, steps out of the truck and he's covered in black from head to toe.

My father asks, "Dad, why are you so black?"

"Barn burn down"

He walks into the house, sits down at his desk and starts going over his check book. Grandma hands him his dinner, comforts him for a second and walks off to let him start planning for tomorrow. My grandfather cut his salary in half for the next 3 years to pay for the lose and my father never heard another word about the land or the barn ever again. Grandfather sold the land the next year.


My Grandfather passed away in 2008 right before the recession hit. To this day I never got to ask him about that moment in his life. I don't know if my father ever did either. My dad just recounts that day from memory as he to was stunted to see the pure stoicism and willpower his father showed that day. It was an awestruct moment for my father I think, even at such a young age.

The day my grandfather collapsed and was hospitalized he was up at 4am getting dressed for work like he did every day before, at the age of 82. My grandma was cooking him breakfast like she had every day for the past 50 years of their marriage. He never got to see his business get to the point he dreamed of. But I'm glad he passed when he did. I'm glad he never saw the 2008 recession and how devastating it was. We had to reduce our payroll from 60 employees to 20 in a matter of 6 weeks. I'm glad he never saw the banks calling our notes as the entire economy collapsed under us. I'm glad he never saw some of his grandchildren get laid off, myself being one of them. I'm glad he never had to see his own wife's face when she received a letter from the bank saying we had to come up with $600,000 in 30 days or they would seize our our entire company and land to auction it off. A time when we turned less than 400,000 a month, and that is just sales, not profit. I'm glad he passed fast and wasn't bedridden, helpless to save his legacy as my father called the bank to chewed out the president for sending my grandmother a note only a month after my grandfathers passing(the bank was aware of my grandfathers passing and some of the hire ups even came to my grandfathers funeral, he had about 300 businessmen or friends of the family show up during calling hour), a bank we had done business with for over 40 years. I'm glad that he never saw that we had to sell out bobcat one week just to be able to pay our 16 employees or we'd be shutting the doors forever on his life's work.

When you are a businessman, you have no use for emotions and decision making. Every minute you spend being angry, sad, mad, defeated or anything else is a minute wasted, just like /u/SILV3R-BACK learned from his experience selling his treadmill. My grandfather lived in a time when there was no point in bitching, complaining or letting his emotions control him. There was no internet, no one to care about him or comfort him. And even if his family was there to comfort him, it was him and him alone that could fix it or give up and he still had to put food on the table regardless.

I've been told a lot of stories like this from my father, they sound so alien in today's world. It's also why i can't stand victim mentality. I have no sympathy for people that complain they can't improve their lives or blame others for their shortcomings. It's why i hate SJW and the left, crying about shit they could easily improve themselves. Our company has lost 90% of it's business 3 times since the 1950's and each time my father or grandfather weathers it off like it's an employee that stole some toilet paper.

I don't care if you don't have electricity, have never worn a par of shoes in your life or don't even have running water. If you are reading this right now you have more knowledge at your finger tips than any other man in the history of this planet. My grandfather built more than most of us ever will with a 6th grade education in 1940's America. You can access more knowledge than anyone has ever been able to access with just a few strokes of a keyboard. The only difference between you, my grandfather and anyone else in this world is how efficiently you use your time and what you spend it doing.

My grandfather was a master at abundance mentality and using his time wisely. He also was an extremely confident man, the kind of confidence you only get when you build your own life from scratch. He knew he'd be fine because he knew he was a man capable of anything. Even though a years worth of work just burn down in a matter of hours, he still had more than what he started with back in 1951. He knew, no matter what life threw at him, as long as he didn't give up, he could always make his life better. His value wasn't from the things he owned or the money in his bank. His value was himself. Not even a years worth of work being burnt to the ground could strip him of it. He had the kind of confidence that nothing and no one could crack. The kind you can only build by building yourself.

But, like the barn burning down in the 1960's, in 2008, just like many times before in the 65 years of our operations, hard work, sacrificing, planning way ahead and always expecting the worst got us through a hard time. We found a bank to refinance the $600,000, which wasn't a big deal as my grandfather cultivated many willing and loyal customers though his life that would easily front my father the $600,000, one of which was Mr. 150 from my other article a few months ago, a very big customer for us that relies heavily on our business operating(Law 11 - Learn to Keep People Dependent on You). Downsizing allowed us to fine tune our business, cut out a lot of bullshit or excess expenses. Get rid of shitty employees and become one of the dominant players in our industry as most of our competitors collapsed under the pressure or from poor planning and foresight. Today my grandmother is living a happy and financially secure life all possible by my grandfather dedicating his entire life to his work and more importantly passing down his life lessons he'd learned through a half century of doing business.

I like to consider myself above certain trivialities or pettiness, but being there when my father called the bank back to inform them we had their $600,000 and that no one from my family will ever do business with them ever again, was a triumphant feeling to say the least. Mr. 150 is also very well know by pretty much every bank within 100mi. At the time of the bank calling our note they didn't know we did business with him. So we also informed the bank that one of our business partners, Mr. 150, would have gladly fronted the money if they had been a little more cordial with their note request. If they had handled themselves a little more professionally we might have considered still doing business with them. We now have a new bank and are on very good terms with the president himself, they were glad to take customers from their competition.

Though, the truth is, for my grandfather it might have started out as work back when he was 19 and just married. What it turned into wasn't work, It was his life. He didn't do it for the money, there was many time, long before i was even born, were my grandfather could have cashed out. Money was secondary to him. He did it because he had a goal. He wanted to give his children, his children's children, his entire family, a better life than he or his wife ever had. He wanted to make sure his family was provided for for generations, long after he was gone. I like to think my grandma had a lot to do with this in a subtle, unintentional way. If I didn't sell it before, she truly is a saint and i think her unhuman-like warmth brushed off on the hard, rugged and unemotional man. I don't think his goal was the same at 19 as it was later on in his life. I think he eventually wanted to be sure that his family would never have to know what it's like to be starving, to feel completely helpless and to the whims of an economy like the one back in the Great Depression. Money was just the answer, he made his goal his life.

A lot of people think my screen name is just an ironic spin on Clint Eastwood, and it is, but it's based off my grandfather, who had a near mirror demeanor about him. An extreme stoic, a relentless workhorse, a man that never wanted to hear an excuse and never asked for help without paying it back in full and then some. He believed in building those up around him and it damn well showed the day i was 18, standing in front of his casket greeting hundreds of men, women and families I'd never met. Hundreds of people telling me stories of the things he'd done or helped them in some way. Men he gave work to so they too could provide for their families too. Countless stories i wish i could remember today.

He was a man that set a goal, followed it through with unwavering tenacity till the day he died. He helps those he could along the way and like the kid that stole the quarter 60 years ago, he had no time for those that tried to take advantage of him. And above all, he was a man that spent his time wisely achieving it.

Lessons Learned

  • Your time is the most valuable currency you'll ever own, don't waste it.

  • There have been many before you that's done a lot more, with a lot less.

  • No one on this planet cares if you succeed or fail, but you might makes some very loyal and valuable friends along the way. And they may have some self interested you can reach out for in a time of need.

  • Learn to become a master of your emotions. Become a slave to them and you will pay for it with the most valuable currency you'll ever own

  • Set a goal and make sure your passionate about it. Just like lifting, you won't reach it in a day, but with proper knowledge and planning, you will reach it as long as you never stop. It may take you a lifetime though.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 156 points157 points  (17 children)

My step daughter was recently bitching that she just wanted the same opportunities I had, since I am doing well in my IT career. I told her to shut off the computer and walk to the library and read books on programming since I didn't have internet back when I was her age.

My older sister frequently complains to my parents that the only reason she doesn't have a good career like mine is that I hogged the computer when we were teenagers. In the 1980s. I even had one woman accuse me of having an awesome mentor who refused to teach my sister anything and that's why I am doing well. She is partially right. That mentor was me.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood[S] 72 points73 points  (6 children)

That mentor was me.

When i was younger and we'd hired new guys, I'd always be really enthusiastic to teach them new stuff, share as much knowledge as a could.

I quickly learned most people don't give a shit past a paycheck. Most people don't have any ambition to get more out of life than they already have. It's much easier to bitch about what you don't have than to do something about it.

Now i don't teach anyone shit till they prove they are really invested in it and want to learn. I'll gladly help a man that wants to better his life.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Same here. Ask me for help and I'll give you a quick task. If that task was too much, no more help. I do that with my kids. My son is the only one who consistently does stuff. My daughters seem to want a free ride like their mother.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This grinds me gears.

I'm only 20 but I've treated every job with the passion to pursue knowledge and experience to the fullest.

Whether it be flipping burgers at a local fast food restaurant or driving forklifts in a warehouse, I always asked questions, looked for mentors, and made friends along the way.

I truly believe everything in life may be useful as long as you are able to acknowledge it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Good employers will notice guys like you, keep that mentality and it will take you a long way. It's easy to tell the difference between a guy just there for a pay check and a guy there to learn and better himself.

[–]PM_ME_TYRANITARS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now i don't teach anyone shit till they prove they are really invested in it and want to learn. I'll gladly help a man that wants to better his life.

Hmm, nice quote to internalize. I always enjoy teaching other people useful stuff since most of the time I would say to myself "Why the fuck did no one teach me this/mentor me in this very useful aspect of life?" - examples are lifting and reading good books.

I get disappointed when they waive stuff like that as unnecessary. Now when I see people in need help, I hesitate 90% to intervene. I'm always torn between the ideology of "You should help yourself first" and "This dude can learn from a friendly advice"

[–]allergisch 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Hello! A little off topic. I was thinking about going thru the engineering path but I found out that I wish to become a programmer. I prefer the logical parts mostly. Do you have any advice for starters? I'm from Brazil but I wish to go to a first world country in the future, if possible. Thanks in advance.

[–]Shamlei 12 points13 points  (1 child)

If you want to be a programmer first know that languages don't matter that much, if you're a good thinker and programmer (The logical way of finding solutions) then you'll be a good coder(applying a solution in code) once you get a bit of practice.

Languages are all the same despite some syntax changes that are so small that once you master a language you can change in really little time.

So language choice depends on what you want to do.

For video games C++ is the leading tech on the AAA market, C# will get you work on the phone games market.

For Web, you have to know if you want to be a front end (Aspect of the website, interactions with the user) or back end (Server and database stuff.) you can even be a full stack (if you're full stack you can find work pretty easily by doing some freelance work).

For Front end : Html, CSS (With bootstrap) and javascript. For back end : NodeJS(Javascript for server side) and MongoDB(Databases)

For desktop apps : C# and java, althought this market is dying imo as there are really not a lot of things you cant do on a website nowadays.

Don't pick up PHP, it's a dying technology instead pick Javascript which is one of the most used language and still expanding.

Also don't pick multiple languages at the same time, focus on one path first (Video games, web, desktop apps)

I would say go for web as there's a high shortage of dev and I don't see it changing anytime.

PM me if you want more help.

[–]allergisch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the tips! I will PM you with some questions to know where do I start

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Decide what kind of programming you want to do. If you want to work on embedded systems then learn C. If you want to work on office applications, learn C# or Java. If you want to work on web applications, learn PHP, HTML, and Javascript. If you want to work on Android apps, learn Java. If you want to work on iOS apps, learn Swift or Objective-C. Chances are you'll end up learning several of these over the course of your career anyway.

[–]allergisch 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Do you think it is easier to find a job if I prioritize Java, Javascript and PHP? Thats what they told me here in Brazil.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I do not know the job market in Brazil but that sounds reasonable.

[–]iamrsj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Learn modern JavaScript - React or Angular. Those two are the hottest right now

[–]Scroph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to emphasize what /u/Eyes_Of_The_Dragon said : follow the trends of the job market. I made the mistake of focusing on what I enjoy but it turned out that it's more of a niche market, so now I have to network like crazy in order to find a job in my specialty (embedded software engineering and hobbyist D programming). Where I live (third world country), job openings require knowledge in Java/Android, C#/.NET or web development in either Java, PHP, Javascript or ASP.NET and their respective frameworks. Java and C# are versatile enough that learning either of them won't hurt.

[–]wanderer779 42 points43 points  (4 children)

The biggest change from your grandfather's time: laws have changed and there's not many women like your grandmother anymore. Today a man that is married never really "owns" anything.

Another difference: In general an economy gets more competitive as it increases in size. Industries that our grandfathers did well in are now dominated by multi-billion dollar corporations with economies of scale and a seat on the committees writing the industry regulations.

It is not our grandfather's economy. Thing are tougher now. Do you ever listen to old guys tell their life story? A lot of them contain some variation of, "well I got out of the war, and I needed a job, so I just walked into the place and they hired me." Good luck with that approach today.

This may all come across like whining but I don't think you can deny that it's true. I'm not saying we should sit around crying about it, but that doesn't mean we have to pretend it's not there. There is still opportunity but we are going to have to be more clever than our grandfathers the same way Usain Bolt has to be faster than Carl Lewis was.

[–]americnleprchaun 16 points17 points  (0 children)

good point on market competition; this was before all of the conglomeration of the 80s.

[–]tb87670 11 points12 points  (1 child)

This is so true. My father's father was so poor they ate fucking groundhog some nights. Yet he was able to open a gas station with a few months savings. It kept them afloat a few years before they had to sell it, 2nd month in a row it went negative and they saw it as a continuing trend they cashed out. So they got 2 years of easier living at least. But try that today, you fucking can't. A gas station would cost years of salary for most people just to get the raw land and licensing, then more for building.

Opportunities for brick and mortar businesses nowadays are non-existent for anyone coming from nothing. Few people build internet companies and sell them, sure, that is the tech boom. But even that has dried up compared to the 90's and 2000's.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The moral of the story isn't necessarily that hard work will be the sole catalyst of your self actualization. Whereas back in the 40s you could make a living without a college degree (my grandfather supported 6 kids working 2 jobs 6 days a week) it's all but a necessity now. That alienates a significant section of the population and keeps them in a loop of poverty, where the only way to get out is by drowning yourself in student loan debt. That's a significant hurdle that previous generations simply didn't face.

The moral of the story is that meticulous planning, drive, determination and a desire to better not only your life but your families life is a motivation that can push people far past what they could've ever dreamed they were capable of. If you know what you're worth, you have to go out and take what you're worth. And not give up until you do. Nobody gives it to you, you have to take it. You may not end up as a successful businessman with a lasting legacy, but when you reach your deathbed you won't be haunted by the laughing ghost of regret, or of the life you could've led.

[–]__Archaeus__ 32 points33 points  (1 child)

This was a great read, and another eye opening on time.

I have a saying that I've posted on TRP a few time, but I believe this is the place best served for it;

My value is something I create through the currency of time.

Owning that mantra is the essence of your post.

Thanks /u/Clint_Redwood.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

I don't care if you don't have electricity, have never worn a par of shoes in your life or don't even have running water. If you are reading this right now you have more knowledge at your finger tips than any other man in the history of this planet. My grandfather built more than most of us ever will with a 6th grade education in 1940's America. You can access more knowledge than anyone has ever been able to access which just a few strokes of a keyboard. The only difference between you, my grandfather and anyone else in this world is how efficiently you use your time and what you spend it doing. Just remember the clock is always ticking and you'll never get that second back.

so unbelievably true.

Thanks for telling the story of your grandfather, I wish I knew people like him personally.

[–]1WeedDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are reading this right now you have more knowledge at your finger tips than any other man in the history of this planet

That knowledge is virtually worthless. It is common knowledge and almost any college-educated slob can provide it to employers.

You need 3-5 years of experience in the position you are applying for.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (5 children)

Men only do this if they are able to have a family and a wife that wont snap divorce rape them.

With nothing to lose and an ever lower stake in society less and less men give a shit about anything. The overlords inviting in a million muslim invaders? Who cares, I don't own shit, women only give chad their time of the day and all I do is work some shit job, play video games and jerk off to porn. - Thats the thinking of men nowadays and rightfully so.

Same thing in Japan - a country where men sacrificied themselves in droves for their corporate overlords to benefit the country and their family just a generation ago. Take an investment in both away and you got exactly zero motivation beyond basic self preservation.

[–]yomo86 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It was always a shitty deal for men. But this deal had some nice benefits; good wife, job security etc. But now who cares if the world starts burning I can provide for myself.

[–]swede1989 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I feel exactly like this. Why work hard and be something as a single man, to fuck some bitches once in a while, or alternativly marry a shitty feminist women(All swedish women are like this even if they say they aren't. After 1 or 2 kids the woman wants a a divorce and a new man). And the Swedes have themselves replaced swedish culture and pride with marxist "anti-racism", women go to Auchwitz once a year to cry almost like a religion.

The fight for status and women are not worth it anymore. Money is fun but I do not see the point of owning a bunch of stuff I barely use, and status symbols are getting old.

Many men like me I know are just trolling IRL, fkn with leftist/average swedes and "refugees welcome" people and sometimes red pilling them. The "mind blown" look truly exist.

My drive is to spread a masculine valuues culture. Self-improvement that you yourself want, not want the society or women want. Look at the "Golden one" on youtube he is a great example. We are not living in the greatest of times, but there is a lot of knowledge and people can enlighten themselves.

We need to think differently compared to previous generations. We need to spread masculine values, we need to exploit the system and declare war on feminists and sjw. The system hates white men.

That is way I love Trump, he is thorn in the global elite and sjw sides. We need refuse to go to meaningless wars created by the global elite. We need to refuse to split the bill. We will not die for women who jus to whatever the fuck they want.

Women are destroying civilization because they are to easily controlled and do not see the consequences of their actions.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you can handle 3rd world countries I would advise you to travel to China though. You'll have instant status due to being white and from a civilized country (as long as you don't dress like shit) and you can make good money as well or at least learn how to get around paying almost any taxes when you run a business. Local women have cash registers for souls though and only get wet for guys they perceive as unattainable for relationships or as a way to lock a guy down (AWALT). Quality of living is quite a lot lower than in Sweden though environment and food safety wise.

Any man who feels like giving up these days should remember that this situation won't last forever and when things come crashing down you better be abroad or have the money to escape indefinitely when shit hits the fan and a civil war breaks out. Don't buy overpriced property in a western country, have liquid assets and you'll do fine in that case. The USD is probably the most likely to keep its value as things aren't exactly rosy there either but not Europe level bad thanks to saner laws and taxations.

I see it on the horizon within 10 years and I have never been much of a doomsdayer before.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Men only do this if they are able to have a family and a wife that wont snap divorce rape them. With nothing to lose and an ever lower stake in society less and less men give a shit about anything.

The point of the story wasn't to do anything for anyone but to set a goal for what you want in life and tenaciously achieve it.

[–]Silvestroyer 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The day my grandfather collapsed and was hospitalized he was up at 4am getting dressed for work like he did every day before, at the age of 82.

I'm sorry but I have a different idea of what success in life is. At least in today's era. Working your ass off until you render dead might have been a good* idea in the past, when your family could heir the fruits of your labour. Success for me nowadays is not to wake up too early, have time to ride my bike, fuck whores, relax, meditate and fart in my sofa. Don't try to replicate the success of your elders in this era

[–]therhymerr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bingo. Fuck a life where I work my hands to the bone just to scrape by

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are definitely right for today's culture but the story wasn't about working yourself to death. To my grandfather it became anything but work to him. When you pour that much time and energy into something it becomes a lot more than work. You end up getting a great deal of pride from it. He loved what he did and if he retired to just go fuck off he'd probably be dead within 5 years. I actually work with a lot of 60+ guys and every single one of them end up dead within 5 years of retirement.

To the men of that era, work wasn't work. It was their life and purpose for getting up every morning. The story is about finding a purpose and following it. For my grandfather it was his family but his reasoning is exactly that, his reasons. Everyone on this planet will have a different desire or goal. The moral of the story is find yours and follow it.

[–]Jakei34 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Your Grandfather is an inspiring man.

I say that and I never met him.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you taking the time to post this. The world needs less complaining and more sleeve-rolling.

[–]jiveraffe 17 points17 points [recovered]

This was an inspiring read and many from that generation (my grandfather included) came from nothing and found a great drive from that beginning. In much the same way outsourcing is decimating a lot of fields because that Indian dude replacing you has a lot more drive and ambition because he came a dog-eat-dog nothing.

I admire your grandfather's tenacity and dedication but at the same time I have to ask: what kind of life is it working 5am-10pm, cradle to grave? Even working for yourself.

Of course, his was a different circumstance. A family to provide for, a loving wife, a past to overcome. But isn't it just equally as wasteful to spend your life in the office?

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood[S] 17 points18 points  (7 children)

what kind of life is it working 5am-10pm, cradle to grave? Even working for yourself.

That's a question I am asking myself a lot lately. I've been doing what i do for 11 years now, since i was 15. I've seen a lot and learned a lot. I've seen the road it takes you and i see where my father is at now. I'd be lying to you if i didn't question if it's the right path for me or for anyone really. Until you run a business you have no idea the sacrifice it takes. I tell friends, family and girls i date that i never want kids or marriage. Rarely do i tell them it's because they have no idea what it's like to grow up with a father than can provide everything to you, but you'll rarely see because he's working 8-12 hours a day. And when he does get home, he's probably to exhausted to do anything anyways. They'd never understand, they can't understand unless they've lived it.

Everything comes at a cost. People see the nice cars, the nice house, the success and the think it just materializes out of thin air. They don't see the sacrifice, the difficulty you go through, how taxing it is on all those closest to you, which are the ones you do it for in the first place. Growing up as a kid i'd constantly get comments like, "Clint your life's already made, you get a business as soon as you graduate". I wanted to strangle them. Only my closest friends knew the truth. They saw the toll it took on my family, how my fathers absence allowed my mother to bring out her worst traits. I never entered the anger phase, my mother taught me all about the darker side of womens nature long ago.

My grandfather and father did the best they could with what they had. But to be honest, in my opinion, working till your 50 is a fucking wasn't of your life. Through TRP and the lessons my family has taught me I've learned that it's a noble and respectable path, but it isn't the best path.

My father and grandfather are great businessmen, but they fail horrible when it comes to building their business so that they can detach themselves from it once it grows to fruition. My father is currently stuck micromanaging shit he shouldn't have to micro manage because one, he's a control freak which he knows he is and two, i think he's mostly tired of it. By the time you are 60 you aren't looking to reinvent your life's work. And if i suggest anything contrary to our current business model he'll take it as a young know-it-all, trying to tell him what he's been doing successfully for over 40 years. And he'd be right, i have a tendency to be overconfident but he also has the tendency to treat me like a kid instead of a co-worker that's also sacrificed 10 years of my life for the company. Working with family isn't easy, there are a lot of time you have to just bit your tongue and let it slide.

Freedom is the answer to life. Being able to do what you want, when you want. That is the essence of being human. The more shackled you are the more miserable you will be. Passive income is the answer to freedom so here is my advice on how to find freedom:

  • Don't shackle yourself. Stay as debt free as possible. There are lots of ways to make good money without spending 40k on a college degree. Good employers will hire you on your drive and enthusiasm. If you show them you want more, they will give you more. Bad employers will just be looking for more manpower to throw at a meat grinder, pick your field well and damn well pick a good employer.

  • Don't get married, don't have kids till your 30+. If you even find a girl worthy of it. Doubtful in today's age.

  • invest 10-20% of all your income from the day you turn 18 into passive income. There are lost of ways to generate passive income so if you don't have a goal yet, just stash the cash in an account that isn't easily accessible. Get a secondary bank if needed and have your paycheck direct deposit X amount every week so you never spend it. The easiest way to quickly generate passive income is to buy a 3-6 bedroom house for 20-60k on the outskirts of a college campus if possible. Pay it off as fast as possible, rent out rooms to friends if needed. Once it's almost payed off or is payed in full, refinance for a new home, contract a rental company that will handle collecting the rent, repairs, etc. they usually take 10-20% and you get a check in the mail for little to no work every month. More rooms, more money. I'm currently working on this and plan to have it payed off in 5 years(31 years old). I hope to be generating $1,000 a month of it and that alone will give me a massive amount of financial freedom to pursue other things. I say campus and outskirts specifically because every renter I've ever talked to tells me parents, kids and families will actually destroy your house way worst than college kids. Ya you'll get the broken door or whole in the wall, but a kid and a shitty parent can get your house condemned. Aim for Junior or Senior college students. They are usually past the house party phase and/or to broke to do much damage. Outskirts because you don't want to be listening to EDM house music every night as your neighbors party.

  • If you want to start a business, designing it to the end from the very beginning. I see tons of people fuck up and not do this. Just like my father, only to find themselves 50 years old and slaves to something that once brought them freedom. Your goal isn't to build a successful company, but to build a company you can become hands off with at some point down the road. Or build a brand and sell the brand, Mr. 150 did this. Brands are by far the most valuable thing you can ever own. Human's love artificial status, brands are exactly that. Bullshit names that everyone knows of and will pay more money for, just because its "X" Brand.

The best thing about passive income and financial freedom is it's compounding. Elon Musk is a fantastic person to stuff for this. Others call it "The Domino Effect". Elon is a master at turning companies highly successful, then switching them to passive income, going hands off and then he pursues his next idea. Each time he is generating more income with less effort.

I'm currently at a crossroads in my life. I have personal interests and things i want to pursue, a lot like my grandfather back when he was 19. There is a great deal of personal value to be had from starting your own thing from scratch. But also a great deal of risk and for me personally, I'd probably be forfeiting the heir to a highly successful business. On one side a have a great deal of freedom i could attain and on the other hand i have a great deal of security and comfort. I could build the current business to become hands off but how long and how much time would be required is an unknown. Right now I'm pursuing my interests as secondary while my career is primary. but if my father decides he's done and wants to retire tomorrow, I've got a big decision to make.

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[–]vox_veritas 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No shit. Maybe he meant 200k to 600k? But that's not realistic either.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Nope, I meant 40-60, where I live that can get anywhere from a 3-6 bedroom. 6 might run you closer too 80-90.

[–]TX_trp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep! Where I went to college you can find deals like this. They are usually older homes though and will require some work but I've seen the way the rental trend has been going up there and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger. I saw a three house deal with a total of 6 bedrooms for 75k. I keep my eye on the market all the time for deals but I can never pick which one I want.

[–]bebestman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to start a business, designing it to the end from the very beginning.

A very interesting saying here is that an entrepreneur is not building this product or that service, but the product they're building is the company itself. This changes the perspective and begs the question: How do I build this that it will keep running without me?

[–]AncientScrolls 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Boy I was needing to hear this story. Sometimes We forget that as men we cant bitch or complain as girls do when things dont go the way they wanted. We just have to suck it up, man up and fight against our problems. Nobody is gonna save us or give us hand. Only you can save yourself!

[–]marinewannabee97 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Your time is the most valuable resource you have."

You said it, that is why I'm so damm determined to succeed in life. My time is not worth minimum wage. To me it is worth far, far more. This is why any day of the damm week, I will prioritise academia over the fucking pitance I make at work.

[–]elevul 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't care if you don't have electricity, have never worn a par of shoes in your life or don't even have running water. If you are reading this right now you have more knowledge at your finger tips than any other man in the history of this planet. My grandfather built more than most of us ever will with a 6th grade education in 1940's America. You can access more knowledge than anyone has ever been able to access which just a few strokes of a keyboard. The only difference between you, my grandfather and anyone else in this world is how efficiently you use your time and what you spend it doing. Just remember the clock is always ticking and you'll never get that second back.

You know, that's definitely true, but I'm starting to think that with the increase in opportunities the minimum standard required to be successful has skyrocketed as well. Your grandfather (and mine for that matter, and my parents. Hell, even me when I was young, I got my first computer at 12) did have access to many less things, but the expectations on him and the level of challenges he had to face to be successful in his world were lower than what someone in a similar condition would have to face in 2016.

In an increasingly global world, with fast connections, fast travel and free movement of people, information and goods, being successful means not only being better than your peers living in your city, or your region, or your country.

It means being better than an overwhelming majority of 7 billion people.

And that's an awfully tall wall to climb.

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Our great grandfathers would smartly fall down laughing if they saw today's overweight men sharing domestic chores and trying to enable their princesses dreams of "having it all".

Walk around and look into their eyes. These men today have the same look as a plowhorse who is resigned to his fate as an enslaved beast of burden.

I had a talk with a friend who is " ring shopping " at 40 even through he has no plans to have children. I made it clear his girl was terrific and a great candidate for an LTR. I laid out all the benefits that marriage would give her and asked what he got in return. Sex? Fidelity? Loyalty?


The best he could do is talk about the nobility of his actions.

[–]1StoicCrane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your Grandfather was forged by impoverishment itself. On account of his hardship his potential to build character was unprecedented. Millenials now have too much of a cushy lifestyle and it's rotten them/us from within. Struggle builds character.

If you are reading this right now you have more knowledge at your finger tips than any other man in the history of this planet.

It's amazing. Boundless information opens boundless opportunities all while increasing the potential for widespread manipulation. We live in a dangerous time where a man can lose his mind to misinformation and technological subjugation. The simplicity of aged books are the keys to remaining unhooked in this dark era.

[–]taoofmojo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is not that we have a short space of time, but that we waste much of it. Life is long enough, and it has been given in sufficiently generous measure to allow the accomplishment of the very greatest things if the whole of it is well invested. Seneca

[–]Dritane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude this post is so inspirational that I'm literally tearing as I type this. My condolences on your grandfathers passing and I hope many of you that have ingested TRP are learning from this can stem to be come as great and possibly even greater men that his grandfather was. Albeit sounding like an impossible task, with the resources available at our fingertips today I don't see why any of us can't accomplish what his grandfather did since the 60's. We all have the power to make a change, it merely depends on taking the first step. Truly an amazing story brother, I have learned a lot. Thank you for sharing.

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I'm sitting on a train and I'm nearly in tears reading this, what a man and what an inspiration. Good luck to you and your family my friend.

[–]Jaymilineal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recently talked to my own father about his father. He did not remember much as he/my grandfather died when my father was young. What he told me was that he went to work all day, came home tired. I found this unbelievable and found a respect for the man I had never met. Since he provided for his family until he died by working his ass off.

[–]-Lowbrow- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of the best things I've ever read on Reddit. Thanks for posting this.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She is genuinely the best human being I've ever met. If some women have shown me the worst of women's nature, she has shown me the gold standard of what a woman can become

Word. My grandma is probably the only woman I hold in high regard. She's light years ahead of every female in both character, kindness and skills. My grandpa was equally a strong male example full of red pill truths and great traits. My parents have their flaws but their reasonable, at least my dad.

And now when I look around me all I see is weak whiny bitches who cheat and lie allot while getting absolutely nothing done. Everyone wears the same shit, goes to the same parties and has the same one or two hobbies. This is the beta horde. They aren't real people. I can spot these people from a mile and their are insufferable energy leaches.

It's a god damn jungle out there.

[–]Walt- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you a copywriter? You should be.

[–]D3STRUCTI0N 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most inspiring thing I have ever read thank you so very much.

[–]5t3fan0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this story was amazing, and really beautifully written! many thanks for sharing it clint-redwood

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your time is the most valuable currency you'll ever own, don't waste it.

I am still in my 20s but I have a few ideas to contribute, if anyone wished to take Clint's grandfather's road to financial freedom.

  • Fucking random hoes from Tinder or plating them is not a priority. Hire prostitutes. It is time and energy efficient, and gives your more value for your money.

  • If you are a student, go study is Europe. Free education for roughly the same living expenses.

  • Watch where you spend your money. But never compromise on food. NEVER.

  • Instead of buying that 20$ book, look for it on the Internet.

[–]cjsenecal 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is why I often wish I lived in earlier times. Back when you had to work hard just to eat, back when you could go outside and explore the world with your friends. Nowadays it's all about the internet, social media, and your value is weighed by how many likes you get on Instagram. Nobody can just go out and have fun without posting to Snapchat or checking in on Facebook.

Your grandfather is the kind of man that I aspire to be. I need to keep this idea in my mind at all times. Thank you for sharing.

[–]helix6 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Sounds like you need a new circle of friends. I just spent last weekend with four brothers in the middle of nowhere with rifles, pickups, and my dog. The technology was there for ballistic calculations and drone flight recordings. Every day was full of hiking the highest hills, shooting the longest distance, poking fun at each other, talking about the deep things in life, drinking cold IPA, and baking in the sun.

There are still men out there.

[–]cjsenecal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That does sound like a damn good time but I was speaking in general terms. My close friends are fine.

[–]draylath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this story. I consider the boot of our grandfather's generation firmly kicking me up the arse and I think I needed it.

[–]Graizur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When one of these stories start with a coddled middle class autist it will apply to people who, like me, don't stay the course of success as measured by society.

My problem has always been how fine and dandy quitting felt and how it always ejected me into comfort.

I read an article about an oil rich nation where the women were much more motivated to go to college and get a career. The thing was that everyone there got a check from the government for the oil. Every citizen was rich. But it was the women who were motivated to achieve because otherwise they would get married off and become mothers. To avoid someone else controlling their lives they shot for independence.

But as an American male those kinds of carrot/stick scenarios don't apply, do they?

And all these stories of over coming hardship.

It isn't hardship being blamed for my lack of self esteem.

[–]adrian-moisa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this story! I have lost my way in recent months after a failure in attemting to start a business. This story has realigned my compas needle towards my true goals.

[–]NotAnotherSJWAgain -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Great story. However I would suggest you substantially improve your spelling and grammar - your credibility is questionable when you sound uneducated.

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This is a hard reality to imagine for a lot of people. Men of the past encapsulate stoicism that many can't even fathom, yet they got there not through chance but growing up with an absence of comfort. And knowing that the strong take from the weak, so displaying any form of weakness would be detrimental not only to them, but to anyone they cared about. So, when your grandfather's barn burned down, he didn't whine, he didn't complain, he held frame and got back to work. Because he was his own man, and didn't need anything from anyone.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your grandfather was doing whatever it takes to succeed and take care of his family, even if he had to work ridiculous hours. A hustle like that can only be admired.

[–]beware_the_syllogism -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Guess he never had time to lift.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Def sidebar material. Co signed.

SO much good stuff here. We agree on the same shit... the victim mentality the left puts out there is to sift out the weak really and I welcome it because it shows me who NOT to associate with!

This is also why I always loved Brian Tracy, Jim Rohn, to keep it simple, in their self help books. They have the concepts of STFU no excuses or die knowledge at hand and given out there.

I am grateful for technology every day as well because old school hardass knowledge is hard to find unless you align yourself with different societies of success. The hardasses are villified because they are strictly business about improvement and have no time for pussy feelings.

[–]Jeanwulf -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is why all americans should support Bernie Sanders.

Even if he is pretty blue pilled, he knows that with the huge change in economy, the only way to let the poor get on their feet is through money redistributed from the super rich to the lower rungs.

Social programmes generally make sure everyone has an equal go. It's a bit harder for the top, but those people benefit so much anyway that a bit of loss of profits is irrelevant.