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Red Pill TheoryPanties are off, now what? 13 ways to have better sex (self.TheRedPill)

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“Anciently… the androgynous sex existed… coupled back to back… till jealous Jupiter divided them vertically… after then, these divided and imperfect folk ran about over the earth ever seeking their lost halves to be joined to them again… and the reason being that human nature was originally one, and the desire and pursuit of the whole is called love…” -Plato

 

SUMMARY:

You got her panties off! Now what? It’s the moment of truth. The next hour basically determines whether you’ll get laid again. If you do not perform she will not fuck you again. And what's the point of ALL THAT FRAME YOU HELD if you only get laid once? That's inefficient as fuck.

 

Here's some tips you can employ tonight, split into three sections: Your Mind-frame, Preparation, and Sex.

 

BODY:

This guide is for men who want to fuck women well. In other words, you have to think women are worth pleasuring to get anything out of this. If you get no pleasure from giving pleasure, you’ll likely not get anything from this post, so leave now. Further, if you’re a selfish lover and you’re fine with that, I appreciate you— because if you’re lazy and immature and can’t properly lay a woman you’re the male equivalent of a starfish and you make men like me rockstars.

TRP is a phenomenal resource that has a lot of theory and practical ideas on how to fuck a woman, but not so many guides on, well, how to fuck a woman.

Like many of us here, I spent many years a little BP faggot. As horribly deluded as I was, my genetics did allow for a small amount of success with womynz despite being BETA AS FUCK.

Here's some of the things I've found successful. Every woman likes different things. Whatever. Here's some stuff you can do and have control over.

 

ACTIONABLE TIPS: THE MIND-FRAME

 

1. A lot of sex trumps a lot of partners

Would you rather have a lot of partners or a lot of sex? I’d rather have a lot of sex. Having a lot of sex with a few women, or just one at a time, means that you need to be fucking them well. Her taking off of her panties must always be worth it for her. Hint: if she’s not coming it’s not worth it. And YOU have to make it worthwhile. Yes we work to take her panties off. And once the panties are off we have to work again. And then after we fuck we have to hold frame. And we have to do it all tomorrow night. We work. We’re men. Get over it.

2. Sex is something you give, not something you get

Sex is not something you get from a woman. If you’re “taking” sex that mindset impacts the whole interaction. Afterwards, the woman will feel degraded and empty, and probably guilty because she will FEEL that something was taken from her. If you flip that, and go into the interaction “giving” sex to her, trying to pleasure her and making effort, she’ll come out on the other side feeling pleasured, fulfilled, and (oh my god) wholesome. Fuck me right? Who knew sex could be wholesome. We can put this another way: No matter what, you’ll probably get your nut. With a bit of effort you can make sure she gets hers also, thus making her more likely to fuck you again.

3. Dick is free, but good dick is rare

A lot of men are lazy. You know it. I know it. They do not have the discipline to hit the gym, and they certainly do not have the discipline to hold back a nut so they can fuck their woman for an extra 20 minutes. At the first sign of orgasm they let go, come, and collapse, leaving their woman wanting more and ultimately unsatisfied. This is where you come in. If you can pleasure her properly, you can be one or two in a VERY LONG LINE of shitty lovers.

 

ACTIONABLE TIPS: PREPARATION

 

1. Keep your fingernails clipped

You’re going to finger her and you don’t want to tear her insides with gnarly nails. Keep ‘em smooth, gentlemen. (Side note: TELL HER you clipped your nails while flirting. She’ll get it, and she’ll smile).

2. Always be carrying condoms.

Glove box. Back pack. Pocket. No excuses. Knowing you’re always prepared to fuck some broad is valuable. Plus, sometimes you surprise yourself and she’s pulling your dick out and BAM you don’t have a condom. I let this happen one time. #strugglebus

3. Master masturbation

Masturbation is shit on around here. I get why.

HOWEVER—

Masturbation is a form of self-cultivation. Obviously, if your goal is just to bust a nut you're abusing your god given ability to FAP. Properly used, masturbation will make you a better lover.

When you masturbate approach it like meditation. The goal isn’t to nut, the goal is to get familiar with your own stages of arousal. What does it feel like when you’re about to come? How long does it take to get to that point. If you stop, and start up again, do you have more control over your orgasm or less? KNOW YOURSELF. Learn about your own dick! For bonus points, when you’re about to come, flex the muscle you use to stop pissing— if you have a strong enough muscle, you’ll experience the muscle spasms of an orgasm but you won’t ejaculate. And you’ll stay hard. Pull this off during sex and look at that! You’re now multi-orgasmic! Also use oil, not tissue.

 

ACTIONABLE TIPS: HAVING SEX

 

1. Keep your hands moving

Remember, women have thinner skin than we do, and are extremely sensitive to touch. If at any point while fucking a woman you’re hands are not moving you’re being a lazy fuck. The goal is to overwhelm her. Slap, pinch, grip, pull hair, grab tit, hold her down. BE DOING SOMETHING. Plus you’re pumping her, plus you’re doing something with your lips. Be multitastic.

2. Rhythm, not speed

Women come from sustained rhythms. Pumping? Pump her rhythmically. Flicking the bean? You need rhythm. Eating pussy? Your tongue needs a rhythm. Sex? Rhythm.

But how?

Something as simple as: 5 shallow strokes, 1 deep stroke. 2 clock wise circles, 1 counter clock wise circle. Stuff like that. You can also fuck to music, and go deep once per measure, or change rhythm at the chorus. Speed it up if you want, but maintain the rhythm.

3. Shift the point of friction onto her

When you thrust in and out, the point of friction is on the head of the penis— so you come quickly. If you, for example, thrusted deeply, and moved up and down instead of in and out, you put the point of friction on her clit/your pelvic bone— so she comes quickly instead.

4. Don’t ask her to switch positions, move her

Stop being a pussy and move her. Be forceful. Remember, the point is to overwhelm her. If she’s sweaty underneath you, and all of a sudden the covers are up and she’s being moved, she’s being overwhelmed. She wants different feelz. Give her different feelz.

5. When she comes leave the clit alone for a few minutes

If you keep attacking the clit and she’s too sensitive she’ll push you away. if you leave it alone yourself and play with other parts of her, you can let her recharge and then go right back to it. Remember she doesn’t want to be leading the interaction. Don’t force her to lead because you can’t tell when you’re hurting her.

6. For heat and sweat, fuck under covers

Pretty self explanatory.

EDIT:7.Learn how to eat pussyPUSSY EATING IS BP AND CAUSES THE THROAT CANCER

This is one point of contention I have with The Sex God Method. He seems to look down on eating pussy. I get why— dicking a woman down is much more dominate. Still, learn this. It’s invaluable.

You are what you eat.

EDIT 2: Om nom nom

 

RESOURCES (nsfw, duh):

How to Eat Pussy

Erotic Breast Massage

Multi Orgasmic Man

She Comes First

Married Sex Life Primer

Sex God Method

 

TL;DR:

Mind-Frame:
1. Lots of sex > Lots of partners
2. Giving sex > Taking sex
3. Dick is free, good dick is rare

Preparation:
1. Clip your nails
2. Carry condoms
3. Mindful masturbation

Sex:
1. Move your hands
2. Rhythm before speed
3. Shift the point of friction
4. Move her
5. Know when she's too sensitive
6. Get sweaty
EDIT:7.Eat pussyPUSSY EATING IS BP AND CAUSES THE THROAT CANCER
EDIT 2: 7. Eat pussy (IF YOU WANT)

 

p.s. the point of the Plato quote is to emphasize that IF you want to access spirituality during sex you can access spirituality during sex. It's the only time, as humans, we're physically whole. That's part of why we seek it.


[–]steelerfaninperu 89 points90 points  (12 children)

Gonna take a side on the pussy eating debate.

Do it, and do it fucking well. It's another tool in your arsenal. Why wouldn't you go equipped to war with every weapon at your disposal?

Someone here mentioned that it's sometimes cultural and not everybody is down with it. That actually works to your advantage. In Peru where pussy is eaten much less frequently I have girls who live for my head giving. It's a rare treat.

IMO the best way to go about it is to get her as close to orgasm as possible and then immediately bringing the D.

If eating pussy is BP then I'm Billy Beta and the Omega Band.

[–]Hang10Dude 19 points20 points  (0 children)

"Don't eat pussy" is literally the worst advise on sex I've ever heard.

To the young guys: everything else in this post is great. Learn it well. But learning to go down on a woman is one of the most powerful tools you can have.

[–]i_forget_my_userids 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I don't eat random pussy. Only if it's a regular and I don't think she's fucked someone else lately.

[–]u-r-silly 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's something you bring much later for a woman you think deserve that surprise

[–]Theophagist 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If eating pussy is BP then I'm Billy Beta and the Omega Band.

It's mindset to me. It's not "I want to service you." It's "Your pussy, my mouth. Now." If the "go down" command comes she gets a cock in the mouth. In general it's just far too submissive a sex act for a self-respecting man to do.

[–]Harry_Fraud 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You're so right. I eat pussy cuz shit's nutritious, All-natural and promotes mental stability and well-being. If it smell nice bet that's where I'mma be

My paternal uncle already fought and beat throat cancer. Tall Houston-er, Total G and a straight champ. He's got a Son and a daughter, but He never smoked, didn't drink and married my aunt, a fob Scottish-Dominican.

Safe to say eating pussy part of the family tradition, lol.

The evidence only points one way. Got immunised with Gardasil bout a year before I hit the yard. Mom knew what's up long before I did, and I love her for it. She was very adamant in her belief that no pussy worth dieing for. I believed her-- she used to work labor & delivery before her switch to cardiac nursing

Nevertheless, death by eating too much Pussy is totally right by me. A damn solid way to die. We all gotta go somehow, why not choose by consumption? 😂

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

Be advised: pussy eating will turn you gay

[–]DoNotEatTheTail 10 points11 points  (1 child)

You sound really confused about how homosexuality works.

[–]flat6turbo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

yeah having a girlfriend is totally gay

[–]larrythetomato 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not if you say no homo first.

[–]Klokinator 1 points1 points [recovered]

To be clear, are you referring to eating a man alive who acts like a pussy, or are you talking about a woman's vagina? Because the former is a prison-time crime.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Killing and eating sentient beings is a moral wrong

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 172 points173 points  (6 children)

The post is fine, but in the future, refrain from gossip-like clickbait titles such as this.

i.e "Top 10 ways to [blah blah blah]"

Newbies will then follow suit and spread like the plague.

edit: This is the mainstream way of dumbing down a subject for the lowest common denominator. It's for competing in the attention whore olympics where the masses have low attention spans. We at TRP do not pander to those people. No kind self-improvement can be easily digestable in a simple list (which is why you linked to several articles, which is good).

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why aren't mods enforcing this?

[–]darkrood 15 points16 points  (0 children)

on AskTRP

"I use the Top 10 Way to eat pussy, Why my LTR still hold off sex when I cohabitate with her and do beyond half of the house work? Please Help"

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 40 points41 points  (1 child)

The more low reading comp retards we bring in here the lower quality writing they will attract. Satire and humor arnt understood by at least a third of our population.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Never consider them in your thought process while writing here. They're losers not worth your time or effort. Leave them behind.

[–]SmokeyMcBlunt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed. For a moment there I tought I was on dailymail.co.uk

[–][deleted] 46 points46 points

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[–]el_superbeastooo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seriously solid post here. Spanking is really underrated. Thanks for the technique progression breakdown, your fuck style is top notch.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Besides the title this is an amazing post.

Guys something you need to realize is that this generation is hedonistic. Make a girl addicted to your dick and you will have her forever.

[–]50pluspiller 31 points32 points  (24 children)

50+ and these have been the techniques I have used since my 20s. I have been called a conscientious, and considerate lover. I am not selfish when it comes to sex, I get off on driving her to the heights of extacy. I have been called a tender lover, as well as an intense lover, but a very thorough one.

I have a 3 to 1 rule, I want her to climax 3 times to my 1. I am very attentive, and watch, feel and listen to everything that she does, and how she moves. This tells me what I should, and should not be doing to her to bring her to climax, whether it's with my hand, my mouth, or my cock.

There is no need to just do a wham, bam, thank you ma'am, most of the times. By leaving her totally satisfied, and feeling like a completed woman, you come out as the total Alpha King! And I have never been falsely accused of anything in my 40 years of being with women.

[–]Fly_Swim -2 points-1 points  (22 children)

Regarding using your cock only... how exactly do you make a girl cum during sex? the only time i ever have was her on top nearly breaking my dick off

dick size matters for this so im pretty sure a 5x5 dick is too small for satisfying PIV sex for man AND woman? im 5x5 or 6.25 x 5.25 at my best and standing and rotating pelvis n squeezing max boner seconds before cuming only AND every woman evers said im small of course

please advise

[–]50pluspiller 26 points27 points  (3 children)

You grind pelvic bones as you are in her, you move so you are stimulating the clit. Stroking in and out makes you cum, not her. Get in deep, and apply pressure with pelvis, staying as deep in, grinding, she will get it and when she moves, she actually is getting herself off, and you're not working as hard.

And no size doesn't matter. You are about my size.

[–]TheReformist94 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That means you aren't making her orgasm with piv.you are getting her off by wanking her clit with your body. I see what you're saying but how does one get a woman off with piv alone.is there a reason why women find it difficult to cum from piv

[–]EsWaffle 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think coming from piv is most in the woman, my 50 year old aunt told me she cant come from just piv she needs to rub her clit, and she has been with a lot of man, like a lot (and I believe it she was fucking hot in her youth).

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Dick size matters far more to you than to her. Learn to finger and tongue her to orgasm, she won't care about your average size dick. Eventually neither will you.

[–]thisishowiwrite 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Size is irrelevant as long as you're within one or two SDs of the mean, which you are. How many women have failed to cum due to PIV? Every woman is different - I had a gf in high school that had it stuck in her head that she could only cum once per day. Took a while to break down that mental hurdle.

[–]metalhead4 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I've made every girl I've ever been with cum and I'm just average. I've never been told I'm small, most girls have said im wide though so girth is a factor here. Every girl is different. Ask what gets them off the best and go from there. I've been with chicks that get off best from doggy, others by being on top, others missionary, some just from fingering and tongue action. There's no one size fits all, it's about learning what each individual likes.

Just start by making out and rubbing her, then put a finger or two in. She'll let you know.

[–]Diarrhea_Van_Frank 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Ask what gets them off the best

This advice is the best advice in the world for guys who like dry pussy.

[–]metalhead4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't start with it and sometimes you just know what works, but with LTRs communication goes a long way.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Lesbos scissor to grind those clits against the pelvic bone. Just 5 inches of penetration and a little thing to squeeze has to be better than that.

[–]Fly_Swim 2 points3 points  (11 children)

little thing

Please tell me what sizes are large medium and "little"

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It's finally happened, we have listicles. "10 ways to be RP, number 8 with SHOCK you"

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Something I'd add to this is to watch/listen/sense from her, what she likes. Movements, vocalizations, breathing cues - these are all important clues to what she likes.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. You want her to eventually ask "How do you know what drives me wild?"

[–]2kez88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is probably the most important aspect. You should be paying close attention to her and how shes reacting to everything you do

[–]cazzah123 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Dick in dick out is about 10% of sex.

Sex for a woman is like a good meal. Anyone can cook a good steak. Its not that hard. But making the meal amazing takes more. You need a good wine, atmosphere, a great waiter, nice cutlery, the whole thing.

Believe me here. You dont make her cum with your dick. You excite her mind and body and your dick kinda just finishes it off.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (5 children)

sex is something you give.

This cannot be emphasized enough. If she's not saying "thank you" afterwards, you're doing it wrong. There are so many thirsty betas out there begging for anything they can get that the narrative is sex is something she gives to you. This is true iff you are seen as a beta provider and she wants to give you just enough to keep you providing.

Even if she dresses in the sexiest thing you can think of and gives you a lap dance, when you're done she should be grateful for you, not the other way around.

[–]princepeanutbutter 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I really disagree with this, and therefore the whole post.

Once I got more selfish with sex, I got better at sex. Do what you want and your passion will come through and increase her passion. When I was treating my cock like a dildo and trying to pleasure her first, I was trying too hard.

Treat her like she's the last pussy you're ever going to get, love that shit, and the sex will be good. At least it works for me.

Edit: actually don't disagree with what you said, but a different point was made in OP about 'giving' sex

[–]battmaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yhe sex is something you give thing is so wrong.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I've had booty calls, I've had girls spamming on me, I've had night longs, I've had squirts... never had a thank you.

I've also found that once you are the dick she craves, she gives you sex. She wants to find new ways of pleasuring you. But that's only after you've consistently given her good shit.

[–]THE__USURPER 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. Lots of sex. Lots of praise. Never had an explicit "thank you" lmao

[–]trptwerp 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Speaking of knowing your dick's stages of arousal, circumcised men should be aware that due to their condition, they are lacking many nerves. This results in inefficient communication between you(your brain) and your dick, and soon you might end up with premature ejaculation.

[–]top-notch-alpha 8 points9 points  (2 children)

  1. Pussy eating is bp and gives throat cancer? Wtf my ltr looks like a possesed deamon when im done eating her then i slay her with my cock. Dudes if you want your girl to stick around i recommend you use your tongue. And if you disagree i would like to know why?

[–]SirNemesis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I thought he was being sarcastic.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's fears about HPV. There's a vaccine you can get. Only matters before first exposure.

[–]RedPillForBreakfast 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Being dumb here, not sure I understand the up and down vs in and out...

Could someone explain please?

[–]1naMlliPdeR 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Ever have a chick ride you on the top, but she's not bouncing, instead grinding her clit on your pelvic bone? Try doing the same thing when you're on top, in missionary. Just grind on her clit. It gets them to cum fast.

[–]RedPillForBreakfast 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Yeah I get you! Nice, I understand now.

Cheers mate!

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 3 points4 points  (3 children)

One thing you can do, that Ive never seen written about is: grab the base of your dick with thumb and index finger while rest of dick is inside her. Then shake it up and down, or move round in circles.

A lot of girls who said theyve never came from sex before all will come for the first within about 3 minutes. It basically is like the grinding effect without moving your whole body - just moving your dick so faster.

[–]RedPillForBreakfast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now this I'm trying! Thanks

[–]el_superbeastooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha a solid move. Been doing this one for a while. Pretty sure I picked it up from porn (Rocco maybe?).

[–]RedVladimir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is the same method you use while fingering to stimulate the g spot. That rapid up and down motion is what makes them squirt. Never thought about doing it with my dick. This is interesting, will try it.

[–]Chilezen 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It is mentioned elsewhere in the comments, the idea being, your pelvic bone is rubbing across her pelvic bone, kind of up & down. You aren't necessarily bringing yourself in and out, but rather your body/hips are thrusting across hers. Your shaft is stimulating her clit.

[–]RedPillForBreakfast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheers mate, thanks for explaining!

I was being slow!

[–]greatmikeshark 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Is this the red pill anymore? It sounds like the male version of cosmopolitan

[–]AskYouEverything 49 points50 points  (0 children)

The red pill, apart from being a philosophy, is essentially just man advice, player

[–]hamsterbator 8 points9 points  (2 children)

anything constructive to add?

[–]greatmikeshark -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Yes, post this to r-seduction

[–]jimmyb207 2 points3 points  (3 children)

How times have changed. When I was "growing up", guys that didn't eat pussy were looked upon as squeamish little faggots. They were afraid to get down there and drive their woman nuts.

I do not agree eating pussy is BP. Why would it be? Because your using your mouth and tongue instead of your dick or your fingers? How about pulling off a 69? Is that BP as well? Or is that one OK because she's sucking dick while you're dinning on the poontang? All I know is that the goal for me is to get her to cum hard and pop a nut in her mouth at the same time.

The look on a woman's face when she is getting a good proper licking says it all. It drives them crazy. If they know sex with you is going to include a good tongue lashing, they will back for more on a regular basis.

However, if they don't suck dick, they don't get the lick. Ever.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TRP seems split down the middle on this one. Appreciate the input

[–]graffix13 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree 100%. I used to not eat girls out (bad first experience, she stunk) but I've added it to my repertoire and it has paid off. I mean, you're in total control especially if they are getting off. Why wouldn't you do it?

[–]jimmyb207 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are in control. Women love it and will want more. I love bringing them to the brink of orgasm, right when you know they're going over the edge, move up quick and sink that dick in to the balls and start pumping. Just be prepared for the screaming profanities and OMG's.

[–]Brewjo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If I've put up the frame and game, then had a woman grinding on me for almost 45 minutes, guess how long I'll last...

That's right, not twenty fuckin' minutes or until she's satisfied.

I'm nutting in under 9 minutes, 10 isn't even on the table.

The first time that night.

Then I can take a break, do some oral and hands on work while getting the second wind and probing for kinks and having a laugh.

Then we can talk about this whole 15 minutes plus uber-sexxin' stuff.

We threw away the myths of pulling-out and crossing your fingers with contraceptives. Why would we hold onto dramatized tv/movie sex of simultaneous orgasm being the expression of tru-luv or porn-style hour long slap fests melting a woman's brain out her ear. in place of actually doing what actually feels good and works.

It's sort of the situation where the male sex-drive and stamina/stimulation is frowned upon as lesser than that of a woman's.

[–]Edgarallenbroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't tell her you trimmed you finger nails, it'd be like either one of you saying you trimmed your pubes. It's expected, be a groomed adult.

[–]babybelly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

not to sound rude but your tldr was pretty good you should put it top

[–]EscortSportage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like Glengarry but with a twist!

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B

C

Always bring condoms

[–]NaughtyFred 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I like the taste of pussy but hate the smell, any way around this?

[–]graffix13 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I hear you but not all girls smell. If a girls smells, I aint eating. But no smell? I'm going to town.

[–]NaughtyFred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guess I been sniffing round the wrong ones man!

[–]mintegral 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had multiple LTRs and was not wearing a condom. I need to prepare myself since I am single now.

While having sex with a condom on, how do you get a blowjob during and after sex? Doesn't the girl "complain" about the rubber taste?

Do you put it off and after the BJ on again? Do you wash your dick after putting off the condom?

What is your approach?

[–]mintegral 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does this also apply for an ONS? Do you go full in on an ONS?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (11 children)

This reads like it was written by a chick. Women want savages to who take their bodies, make them submit, and selfishly fuck them. Keep your dick hard, fuck her long, grab her hair, smack her ass, and don't give a fuck what she thinks. This will keep her coming back for more. None of this blue pill make her feel special bullshit.

[–]smfc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

after i read this i thought OP is a chick. glad im not the only one.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

This is true.

But am I alone in thinking the two are not actually mutually exclusive? Giving good dick means having good sex.

[–]battmaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's all about the frame of mind and I think the posts represents a radicallu different one.

[–]Bulk_king11 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Okay this. To an extent. I promise you she will come back to me if I fuck her like a savage but also make sure she is getting off too. Rather than "using her as a flesh light"

Some of these post and comments on here are starting to take the red pill in a whole another direction. TRP isnt about being beta or being a complete fucking woman hating asshole. Start reading more and testing some of the shit out before you post it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Eat her pussy, get her off, have a spiritual bonding experience. IDC. What's important is to do it on YOUR terms. Women do not want a submissive man.

[–]103342 -5 points-4 points  (5 children)

Agree 100%.

By far, for me at least, the best technique in sex is to just use the girl like a human flashlight.

I was called "selfish in bed" by more than one girl. I rarely eat pussy, and just don't really care if the girl has an orgasm.

I get where OP is coming from though.

[–]postreformedpua 11 points12 points  (3 children)

The ultimate question is: does being selfish gets them to come back more than being considerate does.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

use the girl like a human flashlight

Lol. awesome

The idea was: "If I suck at sex, what can I do tonight to be better?"

I've learned a fuckton from these comments, though. And from them I can see the BP tone that's ruffling feathers.

[–]thestruggled 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Wait so don't eat pussy? Other guides often say this is the best way to overwhelm girls, I'm a bit confused here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like everything in life, read critically, read a lot of different sources, and then decide for yourself.

[–]battmaker 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I am going to challenge some of the thinking here:

  1. I don't like the premise that we are trying to create value by being great and giving sex partners. I think it creates an unhealthy dependency on the opinion of women, and despite all your instructions, is not something you can control.

  2. I think the whole give and take you speak of is completely off. I think the most satisfied a woman will be is when she can make you the happiest through sex. This includes the consensual "taking" of her, not you "giving" her orgasms.

  3. Do what feels best for you. The most satisfied sex I have is when I dominantly use my partner, and I contend that is all you need to establish a sexual abundance with one or multiple people. I do not think you need to be chasing the orgasm in the methods you describe. The orgasms will come to you so to speak.

  4. Many women will be happy and satisfied simply from making you orgasm if you are in the right frame.

Tldr- This is some beta ass shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/u/namllipder had a similar critique.

Appreciate the input

[–]Spongejong 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Really? You are just gona cross off 7 because other guys says its BP. That edit is more BP than the edit you made

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lolololo

People can decide for themselves. Still ate pussy last night NAHMSAYIN

[–]1sezamus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

eeee... can't you just climax and after 10 minutes fuck her again? In my case I can come and after 5 minutes if the girl is sexy I can go for another hour.

In my opinion you guys should show the girls that you are allowed to come first. Dude when you don't fuck for a few days than it's hard not to come in a minute.

It is feministic programming that she should come first. Where are my fuckin needs? "I come first, 5 minutes break and then you come as many times as you want" is it so freaking hard to establish?

Ask escorts they know the drill

[–]Theophagist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]XelentGamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is chalked full of info. Personally I have found many of the techniques and tips you put forth to hold during the action. The take away for me was RYTHM ... That's what I've been forgetting. And guys, here on trp masturbation is beta or whatever and gets all kinds of shit. It shouldn't. Use masturbation to your advantage.

I took about 3 months training myself. How to have a hands free orgasm. How to have multiple orgasm. How to basically pump inflate my dick. How to edge like a fucking beast. How to not masturbate, turn the cravings and hornyness on its head and use that to my advantage to increase alpha presence. Everything under the sun. Practice kegels first ... They are the most underrated exercise everyone should do, like planks in the morning. I can tell you I went from not being able to get hard and cumming in two minutes my first time to now, I can cum 5 times, some without the actual cum. I can go for 2 hours hard as a rock the whole time. I can choose exactly when to come. This girl I'm with now wouldn't leave me for anyone because the first time I fucked her she was without for a few months and I made her cum 8-10 times. The next time she discovered she was a squirted. Seriously masturbation used right is your friend. Unless you want to fuck hookers to practice there is no other way to increase skill in bed that much.

One more note. I'm pro eat out. Only with a girl who is serious like fifth fuck min. The best way to get head and enthusiastic head at that is to go down. Works 4/5 times at getting good head. So if you enjoy a good blow them your tongue should be exploring down stairs. Me personally? I love going down there, can't get enough and can't wait till she earns it.

Oh I lied, one more thing. The part about more sex with one person being better than a string of hookups ... My take as a serial mono ... I agree. Sex with feels on both ends, nothing competes. Getting comfortable and having easy access because you played it right from the start is soooo much better than bouncing from one hookup to the next. Not to say anything about that life, it's fun just not for me but if it's for you ... Go for it, just consider the benefits of putting in a little extra work to get regular sex from one girl. Like op said:

"Men work. Get over it"

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (2 children)

ALL THAT FRAME YOU HELD

How is this inefficient if ALL THAT FRAME is supposed to be natural and effortless???

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If frame is a muscle, I'm still building mine. Maybe eventually it will be natural, for now I have to be conscious of it.

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough!

A muscle can do many things and behave in many ways.

Equate "Frame" to "Reflex". an involuntary and nearly instantaneous movement in response to a stimulus

[–]Atuli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Contrary to this post the moment I started having good sex was the moment I stopped worrying about what she wants and started doing what I want.

They'll thank you for it.

This whole post reeks of the wrong frame, trying to please her and worrying she won't be impressed with your efforts.

Remember she's there to impress you just as much.

[–]RedVladimir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post. I will add it is NOT a good idea to keep condoms in your wallet or glove compartment or back pack. Heat damages the latex. Might as well be going a raw at that point, becuase it will break. Always keep them at room temperature, and only put them in your wallet if you expect to fuck that day/night.

[–]gostwiththemost -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Some strong advice in this post. It should be a skill you work on, but be careful about eating pussy. Some girls don't like it because they worry it smells bad, they are self conscious about the appearance of their pussy, or they feel it obligates them to blow you when they don't want to. They are never going to cum if they have stuff like that on their mind while you are chowing down and thinking you are a sex superstar.

Some ethnic groups also look down on pussy eating; they think you are what you eat, paradoxically, guys who do it are seen as weak or gay. Latinas for one can have this attitude, the dudes in their culture stereotypically do not eat pussy.

Best to test the waters first and pay attention to see if she looks uncomfortable when you head that direction.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah, before this post I didn't realize how Eating Pussy was perceived.

Suppose that's what I get growing up with Lil Wayne. Lol

[–]plenty_of_eesh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, Brazil being one of the more "modern" and well-connected Latin-American countries could explain why my experience going down here is basically the antithesis of that.

The native dudes tend to do it less, I guess, but it seems the ladies are eager for it.

[–]circlhat -1 points0 points  (34 children)

Some good stuff the Rhythm is gold,

for 3. I will have to practice it, I'm just afraid I will run out of energy doing it for too long.

This is one point of contention I have with The Sex God Method. He seems to look down on eating pussy. I get why— dicking a woman down is much more dominate. Still, learn this. It’s invaluable.

Its the lazy man's way, no one has ever said why that bad alpha boy really ate my pussy good. I seen women tend to prefer guys who dick them down good than guys who eat pussy, in my experience a lot of the bad boys do not eat pussy.

This is not to say eating pussy should be beneath the red piller just know the orgasm made by giving head or nothing compared to dick

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (28 children)

Most women cant cum from just PIV though. Most women love getting eaten out.

[–]circlhat 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I'm not against eating a girl out, it doesn't make you less of a man just realize its not the same as chad giving her back to back orgasms, in fact after you eat her out you can't touch her clit once she cums, a vaginal orgasm is a mind blowing experience, very few women achieve.

Personally women enjoy alpha cock to beta tongue

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

very few women experience

Yeah, because very few women can even get off that way.

[–]1naMlliPdeR -5 points-4 points  (24 children)

They do love it, they love to cum. But keep in mind, her cumming is not the main goal. If it was, they'd be happy with vibrators and wouldn't want to fuck Alphas. Your main goal is to blow her mind. To do this, she has to feel like she's fucking a silverback alpha gorilla. And they take what they want. Unless you can frame the pussy eating as something that you do for your own pleasure, maybe somethign like whispering "I'm gonna make you cum and there's nothing youc an do about it", I see it as a loss of frame, where you lose your dominant posture, bend down under her and become beta. I mean, it's OK to do sometimes, but when it comes something you do constantly, in her subconcsious, she thinks "why is he always doing me these favors.... is he trying to make up for some deficiency?".

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (22 children)

If you think getting your partner off is beta you're confused. If she thinks less of you because you make her cum with oral, then drop that crazy bitch.

[–]1naMlliPdeR -3 points-2 points  (21 children)

Try and look at this from a different perspective:

We're arguing different things here mate. I don't think getting her off is beta. I think if she comes, it's a positive.

Example. Lets use an extreme example. What if she can only cum by fucking other guys while you watch. In this case, getting her to cum is beta, and you'd have more of her respect even if she never came, than letting other guys fuck her and giving her the orgasm. So, this disproves the simple idea of "getting her off is not beta".

The reason for this extreme example? To point out that it's not beta to get her off. What IS beta, and what CAN BE beta, is HOW YOU GET HER OFF. Being in a submissive position, head between her legs, while she's staring down at you. that's a submissive position. It's a position where you gain nothing, and are being her "pet" for pleasure.

AGAIN, I'll say it AGAIN. With proper frame, this can be done. BUT, if you're constantly doing it, putting yourself in a submissive posture, you're signaling beta signals. You're far better off not doing it, than doing it constantly. The human mind of the girl picks up on these postures and tendencies, even though she loves them in the moment.

Do you understand what I'm saying? Need me to clear it up more?

/u/Ctsunami added more detail for other guy

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (20 children)

A cuck is not an example. You're comparing apples and oranges.

So by your logic, a chick riding you is submissive and beta? She's looking down at you and you're her pet for pleasure. Your point is utter nonsense.

Some guys get off on being submissive. Some girls get off on being dominant. What you do in your sex life doesn't define your relationship dynamics as a whole. If you're happy and the chick is happy, there isn't any issue and preoccupying yourself with thoughts of "what will make me look most ALPHA" will make you less happy than you could be.

[–]1naMlliPdeR 0 points1 point  (15 children)

Look Kyle, I don't know why I have to say it twice. I'm not comparing cucks to oral sex. I showed you an extreme example of a situation where orgasm < alpha. In other words, orgasm isn't always worth the work.

That was just to open your mind to the POSSIBILITY that getting her off is NOT ALWAYS the most important thing.

See, I'm trying to steer you towards an enlightenment. Try and follow my logic. Once you've understood what I just said to be true (and the two above paragraphs are just pure logic, I don't think they can be falsified), continue on to read the next paragraph:

It's true, some guys get off on being passive. Believe it or not, most guys would prefer to be passive and submissive. BUT, passiveness and submissiveness is a direct link to betaness (and most guys are indeed beta). The two are almost the same thing. Yes, if the majority of your sex is her on top, that is you being submissive, and in a sense, beta in the bedroom.

There's a reason most women have a subconscious fantasy of being raped. And rape does not involve her riding a passive rapist. It's about him taking control. About him being dominant. About her being ravished and used as a sex toy. WOMEN WANT TO BE SUBMISSIVE. Sure, some women say they prefer to be dominant, but that's only what they say. Remember the RedPill saying? Don't pay attention to what she says, pay attention to what she does.

AWALT. There are always outliers. But a generalization of "all women prefer to be submissive during sex" is more often true than not. It's in their programming.

From your two replies, I honestly feel that you're trying to hamster away your decisions in the bedroom as being "how I want them to be", and "what I want has to be right on some level". Believe me, it's not. Read this next sentence, because it's vital to understand:

WANTING THE GIRL TO BE IN CONTROL DURING SEX IS A NATURAL IMPULSE DERIVED FROM AN INGRAINED FEAR OF MESSING UP AND UPSETTING HER. Betas fear losing the girl, because it means losing the chance to procreate. Alphas have no fear due to abundance mentality. It's why true natural Alphas are dominant in bed, because they just do what they wish and have ZERO subconscious contraint telling him "be careful, she may not like that". Being submissive is a female characteristic. She wants to please the Alpha, and the best way to please is to be sure you don't do something he dislikes. You're thinking like a woman during sex (thinking in the sense subconsciously, the feelings and fetishes you desire in terms of passiveness and submissiveness are feminine).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (14 children)

I literally agree with most everything you're saying. You're clearly right about most of it, but where we differ is whether or not going down on a girl makes you a submissive beta, which I don't think it does.

Additionally, all I'm saying is that a lot of people have specific fetishes that shouldn't be immediately have them thrown into beta loser territory (I don't have any. At all. I'm just saying). Your assertion that no women out there get off on being dominant in bed is simply wrong. Just like saying all men who get off on being submissive can't please their women at all. Again, I'm not one of those guys, but I'm just pointing out a flaw in your otherwise solid argument. What the majority want is not always representative of the whole. Human sexuality is a very intricate thing. Oversimplification to this degree misses out on some of the finer points of it.

[–]1naMlliPdeR 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Let me quote myself with emphesis:

"AWALT. There are always outliers. But a generalization of "all women prefer to be submissive during sex" is more often true than not."

I never said ALL, I said I'm generalizing.

Now post that, lets analyze how Alphas behave and how Betas behave, because this is essentially what defines something to be Alpha or Beta.

In general terms, Alphas don't care about impressing the opposite sex because essentially, they don't feel like they have to. They naturally feel that just their presence is enough payment for whatever they're receiving, because they're fucking studs. And if it's not enough for her, they don't care, because hey, they have another 50 girls waiting at his house who would love to take her place.

Betas on the other hand need to work hard just to get that one girl who will have his kids. So she means the world to him. From this stems the need to "impress", "satisfy", etc.

Would you agree with the above two. If you do, then continues:

Women are very good at subconsciously picking up on whether someone is alpha or beta, it's a naturally evolved trait, and they're very good at it because it's essential they get alpha sperm with the best possible DNA.

And what most cries "he's alpha" is confidence, frame and how the person acts.

Oral sex screams "I'm doing this to satisfy you". It's a giving act. So by definition, it has beta origins. It's a giving act.

Nobody is saying that you shouldn't do it. What I am saying though is that it WILL signal to her primal brain that you have beta tendencies.

Is it a dealbreaker? Of course not. It's a small detail. If the rest of you is congruent with being a top stud alpha, great. But it is a detail. And if your game is 50/50, it might be what breaks the scale towards her deeming you beta in her brain and ending things.

There's really no benefit to doing oral sex if your dominant sex game is strong. The only times she will ever hold it against you is if she's already thinking of ending things and trying to hamster reasons why to end it. But in the large game of things, where you want her coming back for more and more alpha dick, it's a negative.

REMEMBER: Girls don't fuck Alphas to get orgasms. The REAL REASON they fuck alphas, from an evolutionary point of view is not because they're better in bed, but because their reptilian brains WANTS THEIR SPERM. And this essentially is what brings her back for more and more fucking. Not the orgasms, but the sperm.

And luckily for all of us, when you act alpha in bed, it gets them wet and they cum anyway. Evolution really is great.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

In general terms, Alphas don't care about impressing the opposite sex because essentially, they don't feel like they have to. They naturally feel that just their presence is enough payment for whatever they're receiving, because they're fucking studs. And if it's not enough for her, they don't care, because hey, they have another 50 girls waiting at his house who would love to take her place

Lol fuck me. Always more to learn. This whole shit IS written from a scarcity mentality. Hmm

[–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is a great post.

This (OPs) type of advice I used to read all the time while I was slowly transitioning from a sexless virgin at 25 to a single-mother dating beta provider in my late 20s. It was only later when I cast off the shackles of trying to be a better man for women, instead of being a better man for my own benefit, that I truly started to drown in attention (comparatively) from the opposite sex.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

"I never said all I'm just generalizing" I know you are. That's what my point is.

Oral sex is a giving act. But giving is not a trait only held by the beta. You can be a dominant alpha male pussy pounding extraordinaire in bed and still love eating your girl out and finishing her off. Just like you can be an alpha without being a completely selfish and self centered person. Giving and alpha aren't opposites. It's all about the context. If she's bored as fuck and let's you pound away until you finish and she's totally unfulfilled and you have to eat her out to finish her off, then it's a beta act. If you're warming her up for a good dicking, then it isn't necessarily a submissive thing.

Which seems more likely: a chick dumping you because you eat her out too often or a chick dumping you because she never got off at all?

The bottom line is if you're using oral sex to make up for your ineptitude in bed, you may have an issue. If you're using it as the proverbial icing on the cake, you most likely won't.

[–]circlhat -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Female sexually is different, they are having mini orgasms constantly , this is why time is a important factor and rhythm , their end game is not to cum but to enjoy , cumming does remove sexual tension , but eating her out is the equivalent to her jacking off, it gets the job done.

Since most guys are beta most women don't cum from PIV, your focus should be to get her to cum with just your dick, I had women almost cum from just sucking my dick, believe me women want alpha > head

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I agree about that last part but you're acting like giving a good dicking and giving head are two mutually exclusive things.

Also, almost cumming from giving you head? Jesus dude you rocking a 7+ inch monster dong or something?

[–]circlhat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whether a woman has a vaginal or clitoral orgasm, her body will physically react in the same way

I don't think that article was nearly as persuasive as you think it is. And you seem to have misread my comment which said "mutually exclusive", which means that you can only have one or another. Obviously you can make a woman cum from fucking her and then again with head.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot to think about here appreciate the comment

[–]redhonkey34 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I seen women tend to prefer guys who dick them down good than guys who eat pussy, in my experience a lot of the bad boys do not eat pussy.

You make it seem like giving a good dick down and eating pussy are mutually exclusive. Women like to have sex with men who can make them come and if you can't be that guy somebody else will. Eating pussy makes that much easier.

[–]ecosci -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Look you have to be primal and raw dont ever focus too much on pleasuring a woman during sex because its in here nature to please this is why alot of guys mess up by trying too hard to please her she will sense this as a weakness but she may enjoy it still but women always go after dominance over a considerate lover thats why you cant get logical when dealing with women its natures rules dont ever break them.You cant have a playbook for sex because thier emotions change all the time so keep things simple it will cut down on anxiety and allow you to relax resulting into good sex.

[–]plenty_of_eesh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YOU HAVE TO LEARN PUNCTUATION!

WHY DON'T YOU USE PUNCTUATION?!?!

Sorry for yelling

[–]ErenYeager91 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When you masturbate approach it like meditation. The goal isn’t to nut, the goal is to get familiar with your own stages of arousal. What does it feel like when you’re about to come? How long does it take to get to that point. If you stop, and start up again, do you have more control over your orgasm or less? KNOW YOURSELF. Learn about your own dick! For bonus points, when you’re about to come, flex the muscle you use to stop pissing— if you have a strong enough muscle, you’ll experience the muscle spasms of an orgasm but you won’t ejaculate. And you’ll stay hard. Pull this off during sex and look at that! You’re now multi-orgasmic! Also use oil, not tissue.

A lot of masturbation causes death grip. Holding on your orgasm and delaying it causes prostata problem. Research before you post.

[–]bhaknu -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is so gay. Austin Powers said everything a man needs to know about sex while sitting in the hot tub. "Men come first. Women come second, and sometimes not at all."