Video explains why marriage is good for men, i.e., it forces them to work more hours and earn more money. (self.TheRedPill)

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The thesis of this video is that marriage is good for men. The speaker, a professor of sociology, lists a number of facts in support of his argument:

  1. men who are married tend to earn more money than men who aren't married.

  2. married men tend to work more hours than unmarried men; and

  3. Married men are more likely than unmarried men to wait until getting a new job before quitting a current job .

  4. Interestingly, he also notes that men who are married tend to work more hours than men who are divorced.

His conclusion is that marriage is good for men, with the unstated assumption being that the purpose of manhood is to maximize one's earning capacity by working more hours.

He never asks why married men work more hours than unmarried men, or whether married men are happy working more hours than their unmarried peers.

Interestingly, he doesn't explicitly state the common sense conclusion that working more hours = more money. This is a very dangerous conclusion for leftist-progressives because it largely explains the mythical and fantastical "gender wage gap."

Basically, this video is arguing that your purpose as a man is to earn as much money as you can for your family. Thus, your value to your wife and children is purely financial. Your happiness, your time, your presence in the household don't really matter, so long as you are maximizing your earning capacity. To the extent that married men need more money to support a family than unmarried men, working more hours is good for you. He never considers the counter argument that unless you have a job that you really like, your time is more valuable than your money; spending time doing your hobbies, or spending time with your family and friends might be more valuable to you than earning a fatter paycheck.

The difference between unmarried men, which includes divorced men, and married men is that the former have the choice of where to spend their time, whereas the latter do not.

So, gentlemen, make sure you get married so you can lose your last vestiges of free-will and slave your life away in the capitalist maw.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 440 points441 points  (26 children)

If I had a wife to avoid, I'd work more hours too

[–]jiveraffe 84 points84 points [recovered]

It's said a scientist should have a wife and a mistress. That way both think he is with the other and he can go to the lab and actually get some work done.

[–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (10 children)

That's why single men don't do hobbies out in their shed.

[–]real-boethius 84 points85 points  (6 children)

When my father died, he owned 49 power drills. And almost a ton of nails. Etc.

Why? Every time he wanted to get out of the house and away from his wife he said 'I have to go to the hardware store to buy something".

[–]night-addict 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Jesus... sounds like the premise for an artwork. Tragedy of the Married Man.

[–]razormachine 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I saw an article of this french feminist woman. Her "art" is dropping eggs filled with paint on the canvas, being naked in public, and letting strangers touch her genitals.

In a lot of ways her art does show a modern woman lifestyle. Getting attention and money by using her body.

At the same time this man's collection of power-drills and nails would be a fucking Mona Lisa compared to her art.

[–]Reddened 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That is hilarious and saddening at the same time.

[–]omnicidial 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"had to go to the store to get toilet paper, because I threw it all in the trash" Louis ck

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He might have left you a house in his will. Some assembly required.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

"I'm going to the fuckin' shed"

[–]fromdario 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Dude I literally laughed out loud at this one.

[–]debashis22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We're all out of Collins mix

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 39 points40 points  (5 children)

Reminds me of a great quote from Marc Rudov during a debate with Tracy Byrnes: "When men are married to people who scream like you they just want to die sooner."

[–]jiveraffe 42 points42 points [recovered]

There are (supposed) two stories of Winston Churchill in that once a woman said to him: "Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your tea." To which he replied, "Ma'am, if I were your husband I would drink it."

Another time, another woman allegedly called him "disgustingly drunk". To which he replied 'I may be drunk, and you may be ugly, but in the morning I'll be sober.'

[–]GermanScrewdriver 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I think the woman in question was Lady de Winter, they shared a long lasting animosity.

[–]stfudonny 10 points11 points  (1 child)

What animosity? This sort of banter seems like they're hitting on each other

[–]weird_shithrow_away 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Women used to be clever. Used to be.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Could you imagine if a male guest and male anchor ganged up on a female guest?

That video was some fucking RP gold. The burn at the end was absolutely fantastic.

[–]notmyusualreddit 30 points31 points  (1 child)

At 30 yrs old, I promised my mother Id detail her entire car exterior for her birthday. I spent HOURS doing it at her house before my father came home for the day from work.

I went inside the house when I was done.. after 'talking' to her less than an hour I was so annoyed and beaten, I pretended I had more to do and went back out to the garage.

Applying another coat of wax/sealer was more enjoyable that talking to my own mother as an adult.

[–]GC0W30 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Sounds like the first 3 years of my marriage. I was salaried, putting in extra hours every night after my shift ended.

I made a game of driving home as slowly as possible to watch the AVG MPG scanner on my car go as high as possible.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Haha fuck, spat my drink on my work

[–]Eyeswears 105 points106 points  (3 children)

Funny how it wasn't mentioned how much of that money is available for him to spend towards productive ends.

[–]wrong_assumption 70 points71 points  (2 children)

That video is a clusterfuck that can only be taken seriously by someone that doesn't ask the most basic questions.

  • "Married people work more hours." Why is this even a pro? Why would I want to work more hours even in my cushy, fun, white-collar job?

  • "Married people earn more." They earn more, but they inevitably spend more. If there are benefits to marriage, they aren't financial unless you marry a rich person. If you earn 20% more but spend 20% more (and you'll spend much more than that), are you better off?. You do get a better tax rate, but so what. It barely offsets the extra spending.

  • "Married men will wait to have a job lined up before quitting their current one." No shit, Sherlock. If you live paycheck to paycheck you can't afford to spend a couple of months looking for a new job. When I worked part-time I had cash to spare: to travel, to save, and buy cool toys. And time to spare, too. But then I got a serious girlfriend, and thought that I was going to need more cash so I went for that full time job. Guess what. I have less time and about the same amount of money (I got a mortgage). I guess a house is better than an apartment, but I had to work twice as much to get the same disposable income.

  • "Married people spend less times with friends at bars and more time with family at church." Do I even have to comment on this one?

If these are the only benefits to marriage, it sure is a shitty deal. It would be better to sell it with points like "how awful is to die alone," "married people are happier," or "marriage gives one personal satisfaction." Not this bullshit.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 14 points15 points  (0 children)

One might say that the video is full of wrong assumptions.

[–]harsha_hs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

no need to rationalise bullshit bruh! let's give 0 fucks to this video

[–]CUNTRY 74 points75 points  (11 children)

I understand where this guy is coming from when it comes to working hard because others are depending on you... I believe that but... why in the FUCK would I go and get a wife/family to work harder?

Why not just work harder? This seems like quite a roundabout way of upping your motivation LOL.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (2 children)

or why even work harder at all? Why is working your ass off for a job you hate a worthwhile goal? What's wrong with working a moderate amount while saving wisely? If i'm single, 60 k is fine for my lifestyle. I'd rather make less and have a life than make 6 figures plus and live at work. Fucking shit is a sham, and only an indoctrinated idiot would fall for it

[–]body_massage_ 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I work literally half the year. Could I make more? Oh hell yeah. Do I want to? Hell no.

Time is more valuable than anything you can buy.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, especially once you are content with being frugal in certain aspects of your life, or most of them, you are gonna be more content, than that guy who might be making more than you, but always spends money on crap they never use. I don't even need a huge house, if I'm not having kids, which I don't want. Just a nice one bedroom apartment for myself and a dog, if I get one.

I just don't see any value to getting married. I've never had a girlfriend and even that sometimes seems like something I'm not exactly itching to get. Just having a friend with benefits would be nice.

[–]jpowell180 57 points58 points  (6 children)

The difference is that, in marriage, one is forced out of necessity to do whatever it takes to earn more in order to make ends meet - the ends being things such as a heavy mortgage (gotta have that McMansion for her and the kiddies), increased insurance for the whole family, extra vehicles, summer camp, college funds, jewelry, etc.

Not only is the man left with virtually no free time for himself (better take care of the screaming toddler's every need while Mommy, who has no job, can have some "Me Time" locked in her room, stuffing her face with cookie dough ice cream while playing games on Facebook), but also often sleep deprivation!

It can be 2am, and the man finally collapses on the couch out of utter exhaustion and hopes of not wrapping his vehicle around a tree during his morning commute a few hours later, but Mommy is upset because Junior got up and is demanding she fix him a snack; Mommy tries to wake Daddy so she can go back to bed, but he is (in her mind) so devoid of character that he considers getting a few hours of sleep before leaving for work more important that his own son (ie his son's demand for a "snack" at 2am).

Mommy chastises Daddy, whispering in his ear that he is "less than a man" because he won't get up and make that snack, but Daddy is too far out to make out what she is saying.

Next thing you know it's Thanksgiving, and relatives have all brought over their dishes to Mommy and Daddy's house; stuffed, Daddy tries to relax with a football game while watching the baby, but nope, he's not doing enough to satisfy Mommy, who wants him to get up off his lazy ass and put up all the Christmas lights right now!!!!

Back in the 50s, housewives would not have acted like this..

[–]askmrcia 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This has got to be one of the greatest comments I've ever seen on here and that's saying alot. It's hilarious and yet so true at the same time. You'd make a great stand up comedian. I'm screenshotting this comment because it's gold.

In all seriousness what you described is true. And it's funny because my close cousin is in this exact situation as you described. He's a good guy and loves going to church. He preached to me for over a decade on how I should get married and how great his marriage is. Everytime I go over his house be is miserable. The wife don't work and he works alot. They have this expensive house for no reason. They moved only because wify wanted too. He virtually has no friends except those be goes to church with and sometimes he'll stop by my house just to "see me" but the real reason is because he don't want to go home to his wife and three daughters.

He got old fast. Stopped working out, Grey hair everywhere, ect... You look at his Facebook you'd think he was happily married. But if you really know him and been to his house, you can tell he's miserable. Now his wife isn't cheating on him but I can tell she was a huge party girl in her early years and got with my beta cousin because of his cash. But yea he's the exact reason I see no reason to get married. He doesn't seem happy at all and he barely has any money to do things he wants to do. But boy oh boy does he and his wife give me shit about being single.

Also speaking of his wife. This is the best thing. She's actually a pretty good woman. I could never see her cheating and she does housework and she does cook and she's good looking. She's the typical wife that most guys would want. However, she can be very bossy and loves to spend. Despite all her good RARE qualities, my cousin still looks twice this age. He's 41 and looks 60 because he does so much for her. So all you red pill guys who think you found a good girl that don't cheat, don't act like she won't have other issues. Anyways enough yapping. Love your comment man.

[–]1james-watson 45 points46 points  (4 children)

Because in the 50s, men were allowed to be men, men were raised by men and men refused to allow women to vote or do any sort of nonsensical shit they do today.

Men of old knew the price of handing over a fragile civilization to the childish whims of women. Such madness would be inconceivable by men who fought and saw their brothers die for the sake of their beloved freedom.

The scheming globalists unleashed the woman, the ultimate useful idiot, to do their bidding. And she did it wonderfully. We are now more enslaved by globalist tyranny than ever before in history, and it is all thanks to our dear, childish women and our inability to say no to them.

[–]CUNTRY 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Women began voting in the US in 1920.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

My Grandpa left my mom penniless, with my dad. Now I'm going to school full-time, not working and pay child support to a woman that works full time. We share 50-50

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's appealing to the BluePill mentality of men being valued by how useful they are to others. Study hard and get a good job, sweetie, and some girl out there will want to raise a family with you!

Wasn't a bad deal back in the day when one-sided divorce-rape wasn't a thing (cheating women got thrown out of the house instead of the cucked husband like today). Nowadays, marriage seems to be double the work to pay double the bills (plus princess needs a new expensive pair of shoes for every day of the month).

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 53 points54 points  (33 children)

My wife wanted to quit her job, with the reasoning that if she took care of more shit around the house and spent more time with our daughter, I'd be able to work more.

She said this like it was well understood that it was a huge benefit for me.

Wow. Less time with the family and more time at my desk. Where do I sign up?

[–]ThrowyMcGruder 46 points47 points  (18 children)

Don't worry.

About fifteen years down the line she'll decide that you stole the best years of her life and demand that you fund her moronic business idea that's almost certainly going to be something to do with flowers, cakes, or a random art mediocrity.


[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Oh, come on. My wife's way better than that. She's going to become a realtor! And sell make-up and nutritional supplements on the side!

[–]skeletonized 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Oh my god your wife is Scottsdale, AZ

[–]forcevacum 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Realtor = first class ticket on the CC.

[–]Seducibledotcom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dammit I'm a realtor. I can't compete with these hoes. You just described every skank in Vegas. Oh and girls that lift hell yaaaaaaaaasssssssss!

[–]destraht 11 points12 points  (7 children)

In Ukraine there are a lot of small cafes that don't seem to get any business at all. I was under the impression that they were all laundering operations but then a long term expat filled me in that some of them are the status symbol of a criminally rich guy's wife who wants to eat a slice of cake with her friends in her very own cafe once a week.

[–]douglas_p 9 points10 points  (6 children)

There are tons of small shops like that in America. You can find them in pretty much any wealthy neighborhood. Rich women open cutesy, female-centric shops or art galleries that don't need to make any money because their husbands are bankrolling the whole thing. The whole business is just a hobby to keep them busy.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 5 points6 points  (1 child)

We had a woman in our neighborhood who owned some kind of fru-fru baby clothing store with extremely overpriced, specialty, niche baby outfits that were ugly as hell. Nobody ever shopped there except her friends, mostly to buy a token thing to support her endeavor. Her husband made bank, obviously.

They had to move because her husband got an even higher-paying job out of state. She tried to sell her non-profitable store, but couldn't. Ended up eating a huge loss, but didn't care since her husband makes bank.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This should be a post. I would do it, but don't have any experience in this matter.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You should visit Tribeca (downtown Manhattan, just above Wall Street / Financial District) sometime. Filled with shops exactly like this. I always wondered how they managed to stay afloat, considering the rent must have been low to mid 5-digits per month at least, and yet, I never saw a single customer in any one of these cutely named stores (toy stores, children's clothing stores, artisanal bakeries etc).

Finally dawned on me: oh, hedge fund managers gotta give the wives something to do all day, lest they get into trouble otherwise...

[–]douglas_p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There has to be a ton of businesses in NYC that are entirely funded by someone else's money and would not be sustainable without it. I know two sisters that own a boutique in Manhattan, and apparently their banker dad pays for all of their expenses. I don't know anything about women's fashion, but I've been told that the stuff in their store is nothing special at all. These two girls are super ditzy and I could never imagine them being able to run a business on their own.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Holy shit my mom did this to my dad, lost us his first house. She started a scrapbooking venture and unbeknownst to any of us kids drove us up 49k in debt with products to sell, some of which we still have.

[–]douglas_p 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Holy shit, I had no idea what a scrapbooking company is so I looked it up. That is so fucking stupid. It looks like they're basically pyramid schemes to sell shit you could buy at any art supply or stationary store. I could totally see how naive middle-aged women would fall for it. Women fall for targeted marketing so easily.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. The worst part is there is a huge number of little independent companies and they all buy from one another to make each other feel better.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

About fifteen years down the line she'll decide that you stole the best years of her life and demand that you fund her moronic business idea that's almost certainly going to be something to do with flowers, cakes, or a random art mediocrity.

She won't have to demand shit. She can simply divorce-rape and have big daddy government demand it for her.

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[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Wait. Doing more for a woman doesn't make her grateful and eager to fuck you and stay with you forever?

Women don't respect the men they us...I mean collaborate with to run a household?

But everybody says that you're supposed to do nice shit for women because once you win over their heart and they feel emotionally close to you, that's what turns them on and makes them want to have sex with you!

I'll bet the guy your wife cheated with just did more nice things for her than you did and spent more money. That's probably it.

[–]harsha_hs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So many people took redpill nowadays is it? you want to shoo away some people back into the matrix world;)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

i've read your stuff before, i did not expect this from you.

EDIT: i actually remember you saying you had a happy marriage.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 18 points19 points  (1 child)

She genuinely thought I wanted to work more and that she would be helping out. Women suck at empathy.

[–]MKG24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not OP, but that's just it. Things can be going great and they flip a switch like no other.

[–]Newdist2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This would make sense if you had six kids, like my SAHM sister and her husband do.

For just one kid... fuck you bitch, get back to work.

[–]scamper_22 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Some women really do think this. Its fckin mind blowing.

I think it has to do with men appearing to do what the hell we want. If we do something we must like it in the end. We get money and power and pride from work.

Maybe some percentage of men but most men have silent sacrificial tendencies. They work silently knowing they must provide.

You cant put the duty back in women. What you can do is simply liberate yourself. No sacrifice. No silence. No duty.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's half mercenary. Women know, "I make XX$ an hour, and my husband makes XXX$ an hour, so if I quit my job and my husband works more hours, I get...uh...I mean the family gets more money!"

The workhorse husband spending time with the family is absolutely worthless to women, yet when she divorces him (reducing him from a presence to just a check every month), her chief complaint is that he's never present to spend time with the family and just works.

[–]ScarletNumbers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes because she knows the white knight judge will buy it.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the amount of ego behind that statement lol.

[–]casemodsalt 153 points154 points  (12 children)

Basically men have to work more when married cause the woman doesn't make shit for cash, which is why she got married in the first place.

[–]NeonTranceBadger 123 points124 points  (8 children)

And then because you work to much, she will find another man who is there for her more often.

[–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (3 children)

It's really the perfect Beta cycle. The betas settle down and fund the hamster's lifestyle while she finds the Chad, who of course has all the time in the world because he's single.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Chad, who of course has all the time in the world because he's single.

400 more hours per year to be exact. I think I'll stay single

[–]harsha_hs 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Beta CycleTM already! It's well settled and documented condition described as follows : "A man marries a lady to provide for her lifestyle by putting more time on his work, making himself boring and unattractive in the process, which leads lady to find a man who has all time in the world to give her tingles and fuck her"

[–]GC0W30 9 points10 points  (0 children)


I know one Chad who has had half a dozen women pay for a night out and a hotel to fuck him in with their husband's money.

If you don't slack on your pimping, bitches pay you.

[–]casemodsalt 47 points48 points  (1 child)

This is exactly how they do it.

Settle down with the money, and still bang the degenerate on the side.

That's why marriage doesn't work.

[–]2Overkillengine 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And the only way it could ever work is when there was a hefty penalty for both the adulterer and the enabler. When at minimum two out of three involved parties are behaving irresponsibly, modern society starts to collapse as it is dependent on having enough stable family units producing excess wealth.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The list of reasons she marries you is the same as the list of reasons she leaves you, inverted.

In the beginning she's attracted to the experience you can $afford$ her when you carve time out for her.

In the end when you live together the time you spend on earning the money, continuing education, getting to the level at work isn't offest by the precious time you create because there it's overweighted by all the worthless time you've spent together

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (2 children)

And then work even more after the divorce to pay alimony and child support.. We have guys at work that work way more overtime then me, yet are broke

[–]RedPillFreedom 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely brilliant.

The guy who came up with this plan probably got a promotion and then his wife divorced him lol. Repeat cycle.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Hey, the Matrix needs more stable Betas to run the machines!

Srsly...we're supposed to Work Harder, so we can Make More Money, for Someone Else to Spend, while We Die Sooner?

[Hat Tip: Dr. Warren Farrell]

[–]harsha_hs 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ignorance is bliss. Don't bother with your wife fucking other guys, work harder and earn more moneyz

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back in the day, betas were at least protected from women's feral instincts by social restraint and relatively fairer divorce laws. Society deemed it more important for betas to be content working more than they want for the good of us all (e.g. getting a man on the moon first, etc). Society needs a beta class happy, quiet, and productive. Alphas need a disciplined, non-distracted, and functional army to be powerful, be it war or business. The promise of a loving wife and kids in the house iwth the white picket fence was what kept betas studying hard in school. Maintaining what of that promise they got is what keeps them quiet at work.

Now, marriage is just a scheme to extract work and resources from betas and transfer them to the government and women. Feminists demanded divorce-rape to be legalized, so it was done. As a result, the beta promises are still there, but they quickly fade away as soon as cupcake becomes too unhaaappy. The government knows it will have to foot the bill for these feral women who can't keep their legs closed so they dump the burden on the ex-husband.

Society is okay with divorce-rape because, guess what, betas have to pay that alimony and child support or face jailtime. So they show up to the job they hate and clock in those hours (just to watch most of their paycheck disappear). Basically, the powers that be would rather threaten beta men with jailtime to keep society afloat than keep them happy at the risk of compromising cupcake's happiness.

[–]sozzZ 54 points55 points  (8 children)

Companies definitely like married men more, especially if they have kids. Cuz then you are much more loyal and as a result docile. Since you rely on your paycheck so much and probably have a mortgage. So they will promote you with the understanding that you are more than willing to eat dirt than the single alpha guy who can just find a better job and move away when he feels like it....

At least this is what I've seen in the white collar world a few years out of school.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (2 children)

It depends on the work environment. In high tech where I work, single guys are the prime choice. Single men can work 80 hour weeks for possibly making it big, whereas a married man still needs to take care of the family.

[–]killking72 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's married women who are all about taking care of the family. That's why they get paid "less"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because, clearly, if you're a man, you have no plans to see your wife and kids.

Believe it or not, a lot of people want to go home to see their families and not be at work all day.

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[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They'll see your tax paperwork and know you were lying.

[–]sozzZ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know I've had that question pop into my head a few times. I'm honestly not sure, maybe someone a little older can address it.

[–]nerdlift 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You've just explained how civilization is possible. Men have sacrificed their time, bodies, minds to create the sort of stability upon which other men in the future will build. What you're seeing now is what happens when societies shit on men, the family collapses, and progress slows, halts or even worse, reverses.

[–]bokehnikon 28 points29 points  (0 children)

The title of the video: "Be a Man. Get married." Sorry, that tells me enough what's going to follow.

[–]Colonel_Falhma 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The comment section from this video gives me hope. Long may we reign!

[–]assured_destruction 41 points42 points  (14 children)

Not all marriages are like this, I buy what I want when I want it. She parks outside while my two hot rods are in the garage. I may discuss things with her, but she never 'allows' me to to a damn thing. The only thing I don't do that I want is fuck that 22yo from the tango class.

Because TRP didn't fucking exist in the 1980s, dammit, and I went and got married.

[–]BNKGood 8 points9 points  (4 children)

When you say she never allows you to do a damn thing, do you mean she won't let you do what you want, or that you don't give her the option to disallow what you want by just going and doing it?

[–]nezamestnany 10 points11 points  (2 children)

The only thing I don't do that I want is fuck that 22yo from the tango class

Implies that he does everything else he wants without needing her permission

[–]assured_destruction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah yes I should have quoted allows, sorry. Right I don't ask dont tell.. well sometimes I tell :)

[–]enfier 3 points3 points [recovered]

Jesus, you sound just like me. Still not sure if it's worth it.

[–]assured_destruction 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't recommend getting married. Yo have to understand she was born in the 50's for christ sake. That was a very different time! hell even the mid 80s, when we got married, was way different. And on top of that this girl is not typical of girls her age, I got pretty lucky.

She does have issues, thats for sure, but I can deal with them, esp with TRP.

Party line phones

TV went off the air at midnight

no internet

[–]enfier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I already got married before TRP was even on my radar. Sure I can do whatever within reason, but without the baggage of family I could really push the envelope a lot harder in terms of my goals.

[–]yaysmr 33 points34 points  (16 children)

They need to do a follow-up video that examines the characteristics that one should look for in a woman to be worthy of marriage.

And then examine how many women in the U.S. actually display said characteristics.

Should be... ENLIGHTENING.

But seriously, it is DANGEROUS to tell men to go out and get married without giving them any tools for picking a decent wife. That is just damn irresponsible.

[–]1WeedDaddy 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Every woman is worthy of marriage. If you ask most sociologists, a good woman has explored her sexuality, deserves to spend on herself, should be allowed equal say in household decisions, should have her own life outside of the marriage and is healthy at every size.

[–]TightMouthLarry 25 points26 points  (14 children)

There are no women "worthy of marriage".

There are no "decent wives".

Marriage is a blue pill trap.

Marriage is a bad deal.

Do not get married, not to a woman from the U.S., not to anyone.

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[–]VTMSCHVSVCTRY 7 points7 points [recovered]

I recently told a friend of mine that if you want a relationship, you have to have a high tolerance for pain. Very high. I'm sorry to hear about your story man, but the last part is fucking depressing. TRP isn't a substitute for professional help. You need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

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[–]paydenbts 26 points27 points  (2 children)

make more money so women can piss it away?

yeah, get fucked

[–]FinallyRed 8 points9 points  (1 child)

For real how about make a shit ton of money so you can invest in what you see fit, enrich your mind, become financially independent, and fuck bitches along the way? That's sounds frightfully like a free man.

[–]Menstrual-Cyclist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At one time an unmarried man would be considered a dangerous man. However, that was also in a different time when women acted differently. Funny how that changed, innit?

[–]TheBloodEagleX 11 points11 points [recovered]

This is exactly what Elites want you to think like, same way they love the Protestant work ethic.

[–]ransay3277 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I know a few guys who work like dogs so they won't have to go home.

[–]krauser76 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So I end up working more hours, my risk taking ability is finished and whatever time I have left has to be spent on family rather than on a serious hobby or a side business.

Good to see the comments seeing through the BS.

[–]White_Phillip 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I remember when I was in an LTR as a beta with a sex-hating, lazy, boring, nagging shrew. Whenever I was offered overtime I took it. I said it was because I needed money, but in reality it was because it gave me an excuse to not be home. Nowadays, I work overtime when I like but I value my time much more.

How many of these men working overtime are doing so as escapism rather than for income? For a single man time away from work is the vacation, for a married man time away from the family is.

[–]OneInAZillion 8 points9 points  (5 children)


My monthly overhead:

Rent - $800

Food - $200

Car + Gas - $400

That's $1400/mo or $16,800/year. Everything cent after that is mine to do what I please.

The trade off this idiot mentions about employers being more likely to promote married men because they seem more stable is nullified by the fact that a married man's overhead is so unbelievably higher than a non-married man that he needs that promotion just to have the same amount of disposable income that I do.

Married men work 400 hours more per year.

Another reason to stay unmarried.

Married men are less likely to quit their job before finding a new one

Yeah, because once again, he is obligated pay for his vastly increased overhead.

You know what I did in June of this year? I took a month off of life. I made sure I had my overhead covered and just said "fuck it" for a month. Devoted myself to working out, eating better and reading more, and it's one of the smartest things I've ever done. Married man can't do this.

Married men make 20% more than their single peers

Once again, the increased overhead means that single guys still have way more disposable income.

I could go on with every point in this video but fuck it. I think it's safe to say that any guy sitting in his comp chair watching that video, nodding in agreement with that moron is completely hopeless. Betas gonna Beta.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (3 children)

This is the type of shit MGTOW needs to discuss. Not bitchin' about women.

Make this MGTOW/field report. It will start a chain reaction and other people in a similar situation will come from the woodwork and post too.

[–]OneInAZillion 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Just to be clear, you mean a FR about my month of self improvement?

[–]LLL3peat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More or less about how you have freedom by being able to do what you want when you want and how you want.

I work in an office which is 80‰ women. They all ask where is my gf and I always tell them I'm not ready for a family. Can't afford to feed two people. So I'm saving to be able to provide for the future of it happening. They eat it up minus one person who has figured out I just like having freedom

[–]mustaine42 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah there ya go. Work more hours at an unfulfilling job you hate. Help your CEO buy his fifth vacation home. Thats why you shpuld get married. Great fucking advice.

[–]YoungRedOne 9 points10 points  (0 children)

SMFH saw this awhile back didn't even bother...I think its the ONLY video I've dislike since being on youtube.

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is why men are choosing to abstain from marriage in larger numbers as the years roll onwards. Now what are the real benefits? Seeing the same vag for 40 years straight? Have no sex. Being a slave. Nah thanks.

[–]Mechanik_J 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What the fuck did I just watch. It sounds like propaganda for a hive mind society. All I could imagine is some totalitarian figure saying, "You are a worker bee, you must provide for the colony! It is your duty. Let the scientist bees, media bees, and entrepreneur bees create innovations, art, and jobs. You have it easy. All you have to do is work hard to become successful." And it's quite disheartening. It sounds like its aimed at "blue collar" workers that have to grind everyday for measly penny's to live a measly life.

[–]1DRMMR76 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Personally I like being able to browse a gun shop and just say "That's a nice $1,800 rifle, I'll take it" and not have to worry about asking permission or not having enough money to pay for someone else's bullshit.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I do the same thing with cars. I like not having to ask anybody for permission to buy a new car. I can't wait until the Civic Type R gets released.

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[–]LLL3peat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Still not going to spend 40k on a focus rs. That's used z06 or gtr prices...

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[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a relationship, any ceded power is voluntary.

A masculine man who owns his shit is able to already know where he can spend his cash.

[–]Magnum256[🍰] 14 points15 points  (3 children)


I'd rather have the option to choose how much or how little I work, and not work in excess if it's not required. Right now I work about 35 hours a week which earns me an income well above what I actually need to survive (only spend about 50% of my earnings on required expenses) leaving the rest for savings, investments, or optional purchases/vacations.

If I got married and my wife didn't earn an equal amount and so depended on a portion of my income to maintain our joint lifestyle, it would mean that instead of saving 50% of my monthly earnings, I'd be saving some lesser amount to subsidize my would-be wife. I'd either have less financial freedom for optional purchases, less vacations/travel, less investments/savings, or alternatively I'd be forced to work more hours to compensate and maintain my accustomed lifestyle, leaving less free time for hobbies and doing other things I enjoy.

Basically it sounds like shit. Sure, I guess if the wife earns a comparable amount of money and pays equally for everything then it would maintain parity and things would be fine from a financial perspective, but from everything I've seen and heard, that's the exception and not the rule.

edit: another thing that sucks is that in marriage the man often loses the freedom to spend the money he earns without getting approval from the wife. It turns my stomach when some of my married friends have to phone their wives and ask if they can buy tickets to a sports game or a concert or whatever else. It's like, did you earn that money yourself? Yes. Did she contribute any of the money in that bank account? No. Does she frivolously spend on herself all the fucking time? Yes. Yet you still have to ask if you can spend $50 out of the account?

[–]LabRat314 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah. That last paragraph. I see so much of that where I work. It's fucked. Makes me never want to get married.

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It turns my stomach when some of my married friends have to phone their wives and ask if they can buy tickets to a sports game or a concert or whatever else.

Holy shit. As much as I want to think this isn't true, I have heard of things like this.

[–]JohnnySkidmarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A separate savings account solves that problem. Take a few hundred out of your account each month and put it into your new savings account (at a totally different bank). If you get any bonus or commission, have it direct deposited into the new account. I have a shitload of side money my wife doesn't know about. But she is down to earth and doesn't care if I buy something I want, like tickets to the Lakers.

[–]pdpbigbang 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My dad was always absent in my house. He loved working long hours away from home as often as possible. Sometimes I felt like he was neglecting me, my my brother, and my mom. He had very prestigious position in a university as a professor, and worked on a lot of researches. But he was a terrible father figure since he was always absent at home. Later on, I found out it wasn't because he was purposely neglectful. As I came to realize, he and my mom just didn't get along. Yes, he worked more hours. Yes, he made more money. But at the end, all I wanted was a cohesive family, not money for luxury. I pretty much grew up without a strong father figure to look up to. I had to seek father figures from my friends, history, or the internet. In the end, the marriage 'system' was what broke my household. I still very much remember my dad's confession to me: "I regretted marrying your mother"

[–]ErectileReptile6969 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So let me get this straight, instead of having a laid back, easy life, I should get married and have kids so I am forced to work my ass off while having less disposable income at the same time. No thank you.

[–]notmyusualreddit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Telling a guy "Be a man. Get married." sounds about as crazy as telling someone "Be a good black man. Be a slave."

Sure in the past thats how things were and it helped society move forward.. but lets not be insane now.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Marriage takes you from being a man and transform you into a male nest slave. Read the book "Anatomy of Female Power" where this Trad con trap is revealed more.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey, someone has to pay for the mid day wine lunches that women everywhere seem to enjoy on a daily basis.

[–]victor_knight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ah, the promise of regular pussy and home-cooked meals. What a crock!

[–]choomguy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Corollary: married women tend to work less than unmarried women.

[–]drqxx 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I got married once its cost me 80K to get out.

I told my current LTO on our third date that I have a zero marriage policy. We've been together for four year. So far so good. I can't think of a single reason to ever get married.

[–]KartagoPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's like marriage gives them money after divorce.

[–]real-boethius 3 points4 points  (0 children)


Men gain by working longer hours to earn money that their wives then spend.

feminist logic

[–]Barsukas_Tukas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Married men may earn more, but i'm pretty sure that they spend way more as well. Their children need to eat, they need books, and they need all shit imaginable. Their wives also need new pair of shoes, new coat and so on.

I'm pretty sure, that in the end unmarried guys are left with more money in their pockets than married counterparts.

And as you said, on top of having more money, they also have much more time to do what they actually enjoy.

So, thanks TRP, for leading me to decision to never get married. I'm in your debt.

[–]RedPillAnonymous 3 points4 points  (2 children)

This is why I don't take the tradionalist patriarchy enthusiasts that make up most of the red pill seriously. Traditionalism still made a slave out of you.

[–]WAFC 2 points3 points  (1 child)

At least under the old system you had a better than average chance of getting to live with your children until they were grown. It used to be a fairly even trade. Man gets woman's youth, reproduction and loyalty and woman gets man's resources, commitment and loyalty. Now it's like a cell phone contract that the phone company can cancel anytime they want and take half your shit. And your kids. And you don't actually get a cell phone. So fucked.

[–]RedPillAnonymous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a shit system, its just now a shittier system.

[–]MOCKxTHExCROSS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

IMO most married men work longer hours to avoid their wives and kids, not to earn more.

[–]victor_knight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He's a calcified mangina. Plain and simple. Another man could (and should) fuck his wife and he'd probably just sit there and watch, saying she was an empowered woman.

[–]Drenmar 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is PragerU some neocon think-tank?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If I had a wife who could maintain her weight, was good to me and a good mother, and who would be faithful, I would get married and work hard for her and my kids.

Well, if I had a society where she couldn't walk out the door any second and get custody and half my shit easily even though she may deserve nothing from me.

[–]RedPillAnonymous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Notice he doesn't mention divorce at all.

[–]rangerjello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The military uses marriage as a retention tool.

If a young soldier gets married he gets a larger paycheck and gets to move out of the barracks. This encourages lots of young men to get married long before they are ready to people that don't necessarily deserve their affection.

I know of one scenario where a young captain was deploying from DC to Iraq. And was going to take a massive pay cut because the army was changing his duty station from DC to Arifjan Kuwait. He made $46,000 extra in a 15 month deployment by taking a girl to the court house.

[–]NotNormal2 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Ask for the strength to endure a hard life.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, but let's not tie a millstone around our necks.

[–]MedayekMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For clarification, since you mention happiness. Happiness in the Dennis Prager world, of which I agree with in this case, is self generated. You can choose to be happy and you can choose to not be happy. I'm sure that right now you can bitch to me about all that's wrong right now, and at the same time tell me what's awesome in your life right now. After that, the attitude you choose to actualize is what your happiness state is.

So is the married man happy? If he wants to be.

[–]1Claude_Reborn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They earn more but their spending power drops dramatically, as in they give most of their resources to thier wife.


[–]123Jobber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Earn more money which goes towards accumulating liabilities and becoming trapped for decades forced to climb the corporate ladder for "relative" crumbs in order to support a demanding wife and your brat kids.

Im cool on all of that bruh. No reason for that kind of stress when an educated single male can create a personal utopia for themselves in any big city if they put in enough effort.

You can have a car, a gadget to two, apartment, nice clothes, food and enough disposable income to save up capital to risk in starting a business or in the markets, while also having enough for fun experiences if you stay alone.

All without any of the liabilities a marriage creates.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These studies can't deal with the reverse that women seek out these types as providers.

[–]MyLittleAtomBomb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You will always receive animosity when you refuse to be locked into the tax-farm system that society demands of men at a certain age.

All those single moms on welfare depend on you.

[–]rpogami 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get married and make more money but save less because you need to support your wife and kids.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

man, if they want to spew propaganda like this, they should at least find a better 'man' than the fat and sad sack of shit in the video. I mean look at that fucking idiot, is that the kind of man you want lecturing you? Does that man inspire confidence? Is it someone you'd want to emulate? Lol come on, try harder at least

[–]mykonos_rm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol right... married men earn more because they NEED to earn more. Its nothing more than the law of diminishing returns.

[–]TheStumblingWolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really takes a lot to piss me off, but I was genuinely pissed off when I first saw this video. It's so obvious an attempt to promote the Disney lifestyle, and I mean - the presenter sure looks like his life is full of joy.

All the reasons he mentions for getting married are exactly the reasons why I'm so happy being divorced.

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember a blue pill belief I was raised with which was basically the saying "Behind every great man is a great women." For some reason I'd assumed that meant the wife would push her man to achieve his potential. Maybe this guy still thinks that way?

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So marriage is good for men because it's good for their wives.

Nothing new her, just more feminine primacy.

[–]redditalias7 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I was married a few years. During that time, I didn't work any harder or settle down.

[–]KartagoPill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

then divorce took your half shit

[–]fiat_lux_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PragerU is a tradcon youtube channel.

It even has a video for each of the ten commandments explaining in detail why we should follow them.

[–]Sheh8su 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The difference between unmarried men, which includes divorced men, and married men is that the former have the choice of where to spend their time (AND MONEY), whereas the latter do not."

[–]warm_heart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From a sociology perspective I guess it makes sense.

Our happiness isn't worth anything for anyone other than ourselves, but more economic output is good for our employer, to the country, to city and helps raises the next generation.

[–]razormachine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already watched this video and at first I upvoted it because I thought it was a parody.

As it turns out... the guy was serious.

Get married because by getting married you become better drone. By getting married everybody profits! (except for you).

[–]Tie5o11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dennis Prager- talk show host / commentator that sponsored Prager U and the video- has long been one of my favorite thinkers, and is very Red Pill in a lot of ways. However, he is also is a heavy proponent of traditional morality and marriage. He loses me a bit on some of the marriage and gay stuff, but I would say 90% of what he writes is gold. He is also one of the most thoughtful and interesting commentators out there. On his radio show, he will often go on long winded philosophical tangents, and has a weekly male-female hour- which is Red Pill 101.

I could not recommend Prager U more - follow on Facebook or go to the homepage: https://www.prageru.com/

One of my favorites is Feminism vs Truth, which debunks the wage gap we all know does not exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oqyrflOQFc

[–]RedPillJohnny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To protect and serve their own interests, the wealthy and privileged have used feminists and pacifists to promote a masculinity that has nothing to do with being good at being a man, and everything to do with being what they consider a “good man.” Their version of a good man is isolated from his peers, emotional, effectively impotent, easy to manage, and tactically inept.

A man who is more concerned with being a good man than being good at being a man makes a very well-behaved slave.

There has always been a push and pull between civilized virtues and tactical gang virtues. However, the kind of masculinity acceptable to civilized societies is in many cases related to survival band masculinity. Civilized masculinity requires male gang dramas to become increasingly controlled, vicarious, and metaphorical. Human societies start with the gang, and then grow into nations with sports and a climate of political, artistic, and ideological competition. Eventually—as we see today—average men end up with economic competition and a handful of masturbatory outlets for their caged manhood. When a civilization fails, gangs of young men are there to scavenge its ruins, mark new perimeters, and restart the world.

from the Way of Men by Jack Donovan


[–]writewhereileftoff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marriage makes men into better, more obedient slaves that are more invested in keeping their job. It saddens me that being married opens up job prospects. In future job hunting I'll probably lie I'm married or have a 10year LTR.

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in a sense it's a good thing to have your potential and productivity brought out of you, but not like this.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly why no bitch will ever live with me again. They always manage to set up camp in my wallet, then bitch that I spend too much time and money on myself.

I will not continue to fuck a girl who doesn't have a job that pays her bills and shit. As soon as she starts asking me for things, I develop the exit strategy.

My first wife bitched for three years until I gave her access to my bank account on the premise she would pay the bills for me. The next month, the lights were off, no bills were paid, and I was $400 overdrawn. As long as she had access, I would be overdrawn by Tuesday when I got paid every Friday. Working 60 to 70 hours every week to support the family, and doing side jobs to fund my car hobby. The car money never came from the paycheck, but money earned by extra car work often paid my bills.

I gave her multiple opportunities to get her shit together, then shut her off to where she had to ask me for a nickel. She met this cunt who told her that I was abusive, and yelled at me saying I should hand over all my money to the ex. She actually thought bitches are entitled to all the money we earn, and we should have to ask them for any of it.

I didn't budge, so she moved 1500 miles away and filed for divorce. Good riddance. I paid that cunt off two years ago. Now I live for me. 20 years of indentured servitude to that bitch. Never again.

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