Red Pill Example[x-post] After husband has cancer and a life threatening accident, gold digging wife moves out and then tells husband's attorney she's "waiting for him to die" so she can collect his benefits. She's destroyed in court by female judge (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by captainmaged

Comment by /u/myzyri on a post in AdviceAnimals:
I work with a divorce lawyer who also handles real estate transactions. I'm selling a house for a couple getting a divorce and the lawyer laid a few stories on me. This one seems to fit here nicely...
Guy gets married. Rough times since she's in college and he can't find decent work without ever having graduated high school. He joins the army just to have steady income and pay for her schooling. He gets out a couple years later and becomes a fireman. Then becomes a building and fire inspector for the city. Makes good money. Pays off all their debt over the next several years. Wife tries to start a few businesses (none of which relate to her degree) and fails. Hubby supports her and pays for all her screw ups. He gets cancer but still goes to work. He ends up having an accident and he's bedridden. Wife moves out after a couple months saying she can't care for him and contacts this lawyer. She doesn't call the lawyer to get a divorce, she calls the lawyer to find out what to do in order to keep his benefits when he dies.
Doctors are saying he's got less than a few months. Lawyer thinks she's a scumbag but advises her. A few months later, she claims she moved back into the house. It's a mess, the husband has gotten all gross from guild buildup from medications and he stinks. Doctors say he's still in bad shape, but give him maybe a year. She wants someone to support her. Calls the lawyer and asks if she can take all his benefits if she divorced him. Lawyer says she'll get a portion. She moves out. She gets a boyfriend to support her and decides to wait till hubby does off. Totally ignores him. A year later, she calls the lawyer saying the cancer is gone and the husband is back to work, but now she wants a divorce because he's fat and lost his hair and he's just a disgusting slob. Lawyer says they can move forward, but she's not going to be able to just have his paycheck deposited in her account.
She seems to think she can take everything from him because he got sick and couldn't support her for a few years. The guy has another accident at work (fell off a roof on a 3 story building) and he may not survive. The same day of the accident, she calls the lawyer to excitedly request a hold on the divorce because "he might just die and save us all the trouble." That's the last call the lawyer gets, sends a bill, gets paid, she figures the husband died.
Fast forward SEVEN YEARS. Lawyer gets a call from the wife wanting a divorce. The fireman lived!! Not only did he live, he got back into shape, became the county inspector, wrote a book about surviving his fall (and many other stories about the bravery and risks firemen take), went in some talk shows to promote the book, and he's basically looking like a stud and making tons and tons of money.
She's freaking out saying she's going to take him for everything he's worth because he's got a woman living in their marital home and he's a cheating bastard. (Remember, she's had a boyfriend since his accident.) Lawyer starts working on it and the wife is excited to finally get paid and "move on with her life."
They try mediation and she's pushing for EVERYTHING. So, they try some kind of arbitration with only the husband, wife, attorneys, and a judge. Wife refuses to accept anything the judge suggests. Later tells the lawyer she declined even the most reasonable requests because the judge was a male and she was convinced he was siding with the husband because "good old boys club." (WTF?). Apparently, the husband wants to get married again and was being extremely generous just to make it all come to an end so he could get married and get on with his new life. They schedule to go to court. She's excited because there's a female judge. Husband's lawyer pulls out documents from 7-8-9 years ago. In addition to her own attorney, she was talking to the husband's attorney about getting his benefits and "waiting for him to die" and having this boyfriend.
Judge just rips this woman a new one. Wife was asking for maintenance/alimony. Wife was asking for profits from the book and benefits from his job. Judge looked over how much she'd sucked from him in college costs, failed business ventures, and other things he'd paid for while she ignored him for seven years.
Judge grants her $30,000 per year in maintenance for ten years! Judge then grants him $36,000 per year for ten years to help him recuperate his expenses since she was OBVIOUSLY only with him for money and support. Judge WISELY whittles it down so that he never has to pay her anything but she has to pay him $500 per month for the next ten years which I guess negated his obligation in case he paid and she didn't.
In the end, she wound up paying him and from what the lawyer said, the judge verbally destroyed her in court for being a complete piece of garbage. She said the judge told her that she'd be spending time in jail if she missed payments or did anything to hurt his standing in the community. Lawyer said she is currently suing the wife because she never paid the $12,000 legal bill either. HOWEVER, she routinely sees the husbands lawyer and apparently the wife is paying the ex husband every month; however she's filed multiple suits to get the payments reduced and lost every time.
TL;DR After husband has cancer and a life threatening accident, gold digging wife moves out and then tells husband's attorney she's "waiting for him to die" so she can collect his benefits. She's destroyed in court.
Edit: added paragraph breaks, apologies in advance for wall of text, posting from mobile

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 149 points150 points  (11 children)

Nice! Wish I knew who the guy was that wrote the book. Love to read it. Guy is a damned warrior.

[–]Godtiermasturbator 91 points92 points  (8 children)

Glutton for punishment though. Wanted to get married again.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (1 child)

He learnt his lesson the first time! This one's different!

[–]d1560 24 points25 points  (0 children)

No this one is a Special Snowflake guys. I know it in my heart /s

[–]oliver_tate 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Couldn't be worse than the first though.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That's how the story always goes - "he wanted to get married again and move on with his life".

Bullshit. It's the new girlfriend who wanted it and was pushing him for it, that's what they're not saying out of the delicacy of their heart.

Because she's exactly the same as the first bitch, and now wants her out of the picture ASAP so she can be the legal benefactor supreme, herself. Can't say I fault her for it either, that's how this rigged game works.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, in his defense, she was probably young and hot. Hopefully...

[–]Garconanokin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully he writes part 2 now and makes even more

[–]VincentKenway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gladiator would be the appropriate word

[–][deleted] 76 points77 points  (3 children)

Like Mulder, I want to believe. Feeling a little Scully about this story, though.

[–]slay_it_forward 15 points16 points  (1 child)

No doubt. Guy comes back from the dead not once but twice. Modern day Jesus. I wonder if there was an attempted divorce rape on Jesus when he came back too.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His alleged wife was a whore anyway; Mary Magdalene wouldn't get much sympathy in court if divorce existed in his region

[–]Rainlead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The part about dropping out of highschool and joining the army for a couple years is a major sticking point. The military doesn't take highschool dropouts anymore, maybe like 40 years ago. Enlistments are also for 4 years, minimum. Getting out in a couple years means injury or other-than-honorable discharge (which would make it hard to be a fireman).

But, it could have just been a while back, and the story just glossed over it. So I might just be nitpicking.

[–]solidsnork 27 points28 points  (0 children)

This story is better than porn.

[–]Gawernator 18 points19 points  (9 children)

Wish I could find a news story or something supporting this. Almost sounds like a fairytale of the good guy winning in the end.

[–]ColdIceZero 44 points44 points [recovered]

Lawyer here. Fake story is fake. Husband's lawyer literally could not have had a previous conversation with the wife about leaving the husband, then subsequently get hired to represent the husband, then use information in fucking court which came from the previous conversation that the lawyer had with the wife.

[–]captainmaged[S] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

The way I read it, the ex wife tried contacting his lawyer directly after she had her own representation

[–]ColdIceZero 11 points11 points [recovered]

Which would also be an ethical violation. A lawyer is prohibited from speaking directly to opposing parties when the lawyer knows that the opposing party is represented by counsel.

So while there are a lot of dumb lawyers out there, only some lawyers would be so dumb as to pick up the phone and chat with the wife directly if she were to call, especially in a goddamn family law matter.

[–]captainmaged[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Point taken. Follow up question. If wife emails lawyer, i.e he did not initiate the contact or respond to the email, would the contents of that email be admissible if it is pertaining to the case if it goes to demonstrate the opposing party's motive or intent, or would that also be an ethical violation?

[–]ColdIceZero 9 points9 points [recovered]

So, just to paint a bigger picture, there are a lot of different types of rules that lawyers have to follow. Some rules only apply specifically to lawyers (e.g., don't fuck your clients, don't steal from your clients, keep clients' secrets confidential, etc.). These rules are professional ethics, and fucking with these rules can get a lawyer sanctioned (pay a fine), suspend their license to practice law, or permanently revoke their license.

Literally none of these rules apply to nonlawyers. So if you decide to sue someone and you just represent yourself, then you're allowed to do all kinds of stuff that I can't (e.g., pick up the phone and directly call the other side, even though the other side is represented by a lawyer).

Then, there are rules that govern court rules and procedures. Everyone involved in court must follow these rules. One set of these rules is the Rules of Evidence, which governs what facts (evidence) are able to be submitted to the court.

In your hypothetical, where the wife emails the lawyer, can the lawyer use the contents of the email against the wife, or would this be an ethical violation? Yes, the lawyer can use the email. It wouldn't be an ethical violation because the lawyer didn't communicate with her, she communicated to the lawyer. There's a difference.

Also, the Rules of Evidence would control when the lawyer submitted the email to the court. There's a specific rule that allows for submitting the email in this case.

[–]captainmaged[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Not disputing that the story may be far fetched, but it seems from the narration in the original comment, that the husband's lawyer produced "documents" showing that the wife was waiting for him to die to get his benefits, which hypothetically could have been an email printout or a letter from the wife. Per your explanation, if the Rules of Evidence were followed, such documents would have been admissible and could have influenced the judge's decision. To your earlier point, it isn't really clear what the nature of the communication was the way the story was told

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought it sounded suspicious.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was already husband's lawyer when she decided to tell him that shit. Wasn't in confidence or anything, she was fishing for answers.

[–]p00pey 93 points94 points  (18 children)

sounds like standard RP porn...same story, over and over again. What exactly is to be learned from this, even if it was true?!?

[–]aanarchist 39 points40 points  (9 children)

become an alpha and female judge will say fuck society and give you alimony from your wife.

[–]LazyMagus 26 points27 points  (7 children)

Your comment made this all the more interesting to me. My view was that the female judge was just being a good human.

[–]KrssTRP 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Any divorce lawyer worth his/her salt will tell you having a female judge in a divorce is a is preferable for the man, she wont try be a beta who tries to whiteknight in hopes of pleasing a female and she'll see straight through any bullshit the wife does.

[–]melb22 12 points13 points  (4 children)

It was true in my divorce. My ex-wife chose a professional mediator to sort out child care arrangements, she was a middle-aged female, to my complete surprise she was strongly supportive of me getting a fair share of custody, my ex-wife ended up lodging a complaint against her. One thing I noted was when my ex-wife did the whole crying thing, the mediator wasn't taken in at all, just said something along the lines of "that's part of the tragedy of divorce". So my personal experience does back up the idea that older women lawyers are less taken in by attempts at emotional manipulation.

[–]rockymountainoysters 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Even the most RP or most MGTOW man cannot possibly have equal scorn toward women as what women have for each other.

Women are anti-woman.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women are anti-woman.

Someone make a tshirt.

GLO should be taking note of my suggestions, here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Better watch out asking for a female judge, mediator or arbitrator. If she has a father, son, brother that's been been made to crawl across glass for by some low women she will get vicarious revenge.

Women go gull Cersei Lannister for their sons and will fuck a woman up for just reminding them of a woman that slighted their son.

[–]aanarchist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That would be awesome if it was the case, I hope you're right :)

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Unplugging means that you are never again allowed to get a good chuckle of the payback some stupid bitch got.

Get that stick out of your ass or just move on to the next post. Press the downvote button before, if it makes you feel better.

Also if you want other content, where exactly is that which you provide?

[–]LiverCity 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Now, this is just me as I haven't read many of these stories, but I feel it's good as a testament to how low someone's life can get and still recover and succeed.

I've seen people give up for what amounts to stubbing your toe compared to what this man went through.

Obviously there's parts of it he inflicted on himself through getting married, but I have seen a few stories where married men have successful marriages by applying RP concepts.

I can imagine the whole 'woman loses in her attempt to screw over a man' scenario being a popular source of entertainment like revenge stories and whatnot. At the same time, I feel this one had more to it than that if you looked at it from the right angle.

[–]captainmaged[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agree. The wife seems to be just one element of this man's story. He came back from cancer, and two life threatening accidents, and went from high school dropout to successful author and county inspector. Where there's a will, there's a way

[–]spelczech 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The lesson is: Don't get married.

[–]pcadrian 5 points5 points [recovered]

The disloyalty of women. When things get tough, women disappear with everything they can.

[–]p00pey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you haven't figured out that ALL women are capable of something like this, I guess keep enjoying this porn. AWALT, we get it. Once you accept this and internalize it, it's a waste of time reading this same shit over and over again. It's also not healthy from a mental perspective, but I won't go preaching all that. Whatever floats boats...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are only around for the good times but good lucking finding one during the bad times. The "fair weather friends" comment applies to women ALWAYS. (Fair weather - when weather is good they are there like a shadow but when its bad they are nowhere to be found)

[–]LordThunderbolt 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Chad Fireschlong strikes life back with fury.

[–]razormachine 13 points14 points  (2 children)

So nice to hear that for once divorce courts do the right thing.

[–]MarbusBrick 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Well, I don't happy. If it takes this extreme case to give punishment to women, it's still a sad story. Like sentencing a murderer only after his 100th kill.

[–]Citadel_CRA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was it a 'play by his own rules' young detective with dreamy blue eyes and the grizzled old timer partner who's 'by the book, two weeks from retirement' that brought the killer to justice?

[–]RedEyesBlueShades 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Some are suggesting hubby is Chad and the female judge punished the wife because tinglez. I don't think that's accurate.

If you think that the strongest proponents and supporters of the Patriarchy are men, you should think again.

Men, nowadays mostly as TRP, are only (re-)discovering the actual nature of women and dream of the lost Patriarchy. Women, on the other hand, know the enemy all too well - Other women! And the Patriarchy does a great job to keep the "other women" in check, which, ultimately, benefits women.

How is that related? I suspect the female judge was an elderly lady, think Judge Judy, who grew up with the Patriarchy and understands that women can be despicable gold diggers. And with morals from an era bygone, she thought to punish this behaviour.

Women, not men, are women's natural enemy. Remember this.

[–]Eze-Wong 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I remember reading another court story with the same result coming from a female judge.

It's MOSTLY men who are still BP about female nature. Women don't see other women as Disney princess that need to coddled and protected. Male judges are the ones who are siding with women because they FEAR the feminist backlash.

On the other RP thread they were basically saying that if you ever want a fair chance in court you better try to get a female judge. You drastically increase your chances of not getting butt fucked.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Also, a good cancer story wins in court everytime.

[–]Trigger-Me-Daddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh, just like the X Factor.

[–]victor_knight 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wife moves out after a couple months saying she can't care for him and contacts this lawyer...

But, but, but.. if you don't marry... who will take care of you when you get sick or old? Anyone heard this line before? :)

[–]aanarchist 18 points19 points  (3 children)

the benefits of being an alpha, female judge gives preferential treatment over your bitch wife.

[–]vagbutters 28 points29 points  (2 children)

I have zero personal experience on the matter, but I've heard at least 2-3 people here say that female judges tend to be more reasonable in divorce courts than mangina judges because they know (personally) how women are.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Had female judge. Can confirm.

[–]aanarchist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

can't say i've ever heard of a feminist judge. it's a shame that such a highly respected position has white knights polluting it. it's a very serious job and emotion has little place when it comes to justice.

[–]ReasonFreak 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sometimes the good guys win.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just a word of advice: please format the post. It's a text wall and extremely hard to read. I know the Mods are not fans of textwalls, but the story sounds good.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

No way is this story true. I googled looking for the book, nothing. Supposedly he was successful and the book sold, so where is it? Should be easy to find, except this whole story is made up.

[–]VancouverSucks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably an e-book or some shit. Never marry is the lesson.

[–]twiskirano 7 points8 points  (0 children)

File this one under: Shit That Doesn't Happen.

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

good story nice to see a good outcome

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I need video of this court proceedings

[–]surfjihad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What state was this in? That's quite unusual for a judge to side against the female

[–]mypatchiswhite 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While this is an awesome story where the good guy wins, without some proof I can't see how this post benefits readers of TRP. It's fantasy posted in a place of resource. Just a feel good story giving guys a justice boner.

[–]DoerOfStuffAndThings 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Any proof this is real? Seems like a work of fiction to me.

[–]grewapair 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If every gold digging whore got her ass handed to her in a divorce, the term "divorce rape" would never have been invented.

[–]TopKekSkye 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's his book called? Sounds good

[–]Fnaut3187 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guys, anyone researched about the book he wrote? I'd be thankful if anyone can tell me the name.

[–]hyugafan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This week on "AWALT and Don't Marry The Bitch", more of the same!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't believe this story at all. The lawyer using statements by her 8-9 years ago is a breach of attorney confidentiality agreements with potential clients. Furthermore he would of had to disclose to the wife he was representing the husband in the proceedings. Just off that alone I'm calling shenanigans.

[–]yummyluckycharms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The bigger issue is, assuming that the story is real, one instance of where the court ruling is fair, doesnt negate the other 99% of the time where its not.

[–]Planner_Hammish 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Why would he have to pay so much maintenance to her? If she doesn't pay he's still on the hook for $30k/year. Makes no sense. Just cut the difference and say that she owes him $500/mo in maintenance.

[–]grewapair 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In a lot of cases, the law has a formula and the judge has to follow it.

But the debts cancel each other out. She never has to pay the offsetting amount.

[–]gjs628 3 points4 points  (3 children)

That's exactly what the judge did.

"... Judge WISELY whittles it down so that he never has to pay her anything but she has to pay him $500 per month for the next ten years which I guess negated his obligation in case he paid and she didn't."

[–]Planner_Hammish 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That wasn't how I interpreted the judge; it seemed like "ok, now each side has to pay, and now it works out to her owing him $500/mo, I guess".

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They have to justify the amounts. Plus he judge might have been a real jerk who wanted her to have twenty seconds of thinking she'd won.

[–]ktchong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are there any links or sources to validate the story? Otherwise, it seems fake.

[–]wiseprogressivethink 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If true, she's a monster, and I hope she gets raped to death by a gang of Syrian refugees.

[–]Citadel_CRA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Naw, she might enjoy that. That $500 a month though, I guarantee she hates every check she writes... All 120 of them.

[–]NewZealandSed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is easily the most disgusting filth I've ever read in the past few months. Thank god there was a happy ending.

[–]FRedington 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Names, news accounts, photos, court records, book titles or it didn't happen.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn what a cunt. If this story checks out this woman got a taste of karma.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another few 10's of millions of cases like this and reparations will have been made.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I dont buy it. The "female judge" part was too much for being believable.

[–]zedsdedforever -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As much as I find these stories entertaining whether true or not, this reeks of mgtow. I come here for the advancement of sexual techniques and improvement advice; I don't care about women getting destroyed. That shit happens everyday.