The Red Pill was once called Common Sense (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]Zchavago 172 points173 points  (31 children)

TRP wouldn't exist if it weren't for the whole "sensitive guy" bullshit that happened in the late 80's and 90's.

[–]yomo86 72 points73 points  (0 children)

To be honest this was wishful thinking back then -- and who could blame them? A battle-worn man (ie. clocked 10h at the office or the shop) comes home to an ever loving wife to share his feelings or at least be comfortable. Instead of saying if you want to cry see a shrink or talk to your best friend they told you to "share" with your wife.

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[–]joeyjojosharknado 5 points6 points  (1 child)

As I've said in another post, I don't blame women for this. They're trying to maximise societal benefits for themselves, which is expected. However, what annoys me is how many men ("men") are supporting the marginalisation of their own gender. They blindly buy into and assist the female-centric narrative, then complain about their lack of voice and visibility in society, when they were actively complicit in creating this situation. It's spectacularly obtuse.

[–]JKossuth 13 points14 points  (25 children)

No shit... and women need to hear that yes, if you are allowed to sleep with them on a first date; chances are you won't be calling them back for another serious date!

[–]aanarchist 28 points29 points  (20 children)

chances are if you slept with someone on the first date, the next guy will not ltr you if you made him wait.

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[–]Starfleet_Medical 6 points7 points  (13 children)

If she didn't sleep with you on the first date, maybe the problem is with you, not her.

[–]BrowsesATon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Or then again the problem could be literally anything. You dont yield the same results with everyone. Even if you could execute your TRP game flawlessly, if you're not her type or if she has a subconscious firewall, then it wont work. The problem isnt always you.

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[–]BluestBlackBalls 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Elucidate point number two.

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[–]BluestBlackBalls 0 points1 point  (8 children)

When last did you refresh your memory on chick game?

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[–]aanarchist -1 points0 points  (3 children)

exactly. it's retarded how they literally have it reversed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

In some cases, it just comes down to whether or not she cares what you think of her. If she cares about what you think, then she won't act like a slut for you upon first meeting.

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What is this?

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's equally as retarded. maybe if she was a virgin then alright fine, but if she's been someone elses whore then there's no reason to respect her.

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[–]thisishowiwrite 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, not at all. This made no fucking sense whatsoever.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 58 points59 points  (3 children)

I've been watching lot of older classic movies around the world lately and it's striking how much of TRP those movies contain.

Feminism has been instrumental in demanding equality (ie special treatment) for women, making all female examples positive, and destroying the narrative on the true nature of women ("men and women are the same, except women are better! so stop oppressing their feelz!")

[–]xx69bootyhunter69xx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'd wager it's more of a combined result of the diminishing of manual labor's value, consequent to which men started to become weaker (research found out recently that college males have lost a significant fraction of their gripping strength; the gripping strength of millennial college males, at 98 pounds is almost equal to that of millennial college females; a few decades ago it was 122 pounds for college males), as well as our good ol' friend feminism, which demonized masculinity and bashed boys to make them as effeminate as possible.

Our grandfathers and fathers are much MUCH stronger than us, mark my words.

Thus while females' standards have grown higher and higher-wanting a muscular 8 packs brute who earns in six figures and has the preselection of having already fucked the hottest supermodels on the planet, males have overall gone down-we've grown weak, effeminate, and poorer. I'm not even surprised the shit we see everyday of the average beta male getting torn apart to shreds by women, by family, by society, by employers, and by the law.

Honestly I believe that enforcing veganism on kids by parents, acts of teachers that feminize boys (such as expelling them from school for nibbling a pop tart into the shape of a gun) etc should be made a felony of a very high degree. Until we do this, and until manual labor is returned the value it previously had, we've lost all hope. Also, for the latter to happen we would need the State to lose as much of its national debt as possible. I'm not American, nor do I know much about economics but I don't think I'm mistaken to believe America, just like almost every nation in the world, has grown a very high national debt.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generally agree.

and until manual labor is returned the value it previously had

Except this...

Technological progress has reduced the need for physical strength in most areas of life. If this is reversed, quality of life will take a nosedive. It will be like living 100 years ago. Men don't develop iPods or design tractors, they work in the field. Which means no cheap food, no computers, etc. etc.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 111 points112 points  (13 children)

Some time around 1980-85, society made this shift.

The "man of the house" used to be Gregory Peck, with a perpetual scowl on his face, marked by the slightest of smirks, sitting in the hospital waiting room smoking cigars and drinking brandy with his business associates while his wife and the nurses took care of delivering his baby. After a few hours, the nurse would come out, hand the baby to daddy, he would hold it for 3 seconds, it would start to cry, he would hand it back to the nurse, then head back to work.

Then, the nu-male movement began to emerge. Suddenly, the "man of the house" was Rick Moranis, kneeling by his wife's bedside as she was in labor, speaking in a whiny voice, "Now honey, remember to breathe like we practiced in class" as he began to imitate lemaze breathing techniques until his wife suddenly bellows, "SHUT UP! DON'T TOUCH ME! WE ARE NEVER HAVING SEX AGAIN!", responsive to which he shrinks away, remarking, "Yes dear. Sorry dear."

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (5 children)

You can pinpoint it sometime around the release of Kramer vs. Kramer in 1979.

The film was about a NYC advertising executive (Dustin Hoffman) whose unhappy depressed wife (a very young Meryl Streep) leaves him with their son who's about 6 years old. The rest of the film is about Hoffman's difficulties in being a single dad, his developing relationship with the boy, and his efforts to keep custody of the boy in the divorce.

It's a tour de force of liberal nu-age maleness. Hoffman learns about hands on child care. He learns about scheduling. He has to choose between the boy and his job. He loses his job when he either misses important meetings or fucks up important client business. He is under the gun when he has to get a job, any job, so he can show the family court he can support his son. He takes a shitty entry level ad job for shitty pay to show there are no indignities he's unwilling to suffer for his boy. Hoffman weeps with his estranged wife and begs her to let him keep custody of the boy. Hoffman comes to the brink of tears in court in his last ditch efforts to get custody.

In the end, the court awards her custody; but in a magnanimous gesture, she agrees to let Hoffman keep their son because she can see how great Hoffman is with their boy.

It's all there -- Hoffman as a Mr. Mom. Sensitive new age male, doing it all. So good, kind, nice, soft, sensitive, caring, and unassuming. He doesn't fight or stand up for himself except where the boy is concerned. That's what a Real Man does.

[–]surfjihad 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That movie is nauseating in its accurate depiction of how tough fathers have it family Court

[–]fuckeh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The first time I saw that movie I was a teenager and my parents just divorced. My mom basically had a midlife crisis and selfishly destroyed our family. That movie really hit me at the time.

Hoffmans character is a real fucking man. His wife ditched their family and he did what he had to do for his boy.

I don't really take much else from that movie. The mom was unstable and ruined a perfectly good family situation, the dad kept it together for his son. It's a good example on how to be a man/father. Do what you must do for your flesh and blood.

[–]aged_monkey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can simply point to women entering the workplace. At every stage and every step, every nation noticed a dramatic change in male personality types around the period advanced countries started putting their women into the workplace. The male dominant personality type was a product of economic dominance. Naturally, when women have financial independence, they will use this against the tougher alpha males who are in attempts to maximize their hold over decision making and command of action. With more money, the ease with which to corner women into submission grew more difficult, as they would simply leave the marriage and go find ... a softer type. And as such, the sensitive guy was born.

[–]arul20 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree with your first two sentences, but everything else is over simplification, and worse pitting it as a battle of men vs women in which the only solution for men to be dominant is for women to, "get back in the kitchen". That's not the case - the solution is for men to acknowledge that while women do have status and power in society (good for them), but that does not lessen our worth, strength and power. We just have to step up our game to adapt. That's one.

Secondly, we also need understand that there is an anti-male propaganda war (by feminists and gays) going on and many of our brothers and even women are brain-washed by it. These are two separate issues, but we need to know them both. If we use The Matrix analogy, many people are plugged in - both men and women, and they don't realize that they are being used as tools in the war. Until they are unplugged we have to be careful of them (maintain frame), but they are not our enemy. The enemy are those who are actively and consciously creating and propagating anti-male culture in order to destroy men.

[–]AboutNinthAccount 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I saw that movie in the theater.

[–]NiceKicksGabe 5 points6 points  (3 children)

😬 didn't Rick Moranis' wife die though?

[–]ScarletNumbers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, in real life, but I think he was referring to one of his movie roles.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a scene from Honey I shrunk the kids, I think.

[–]vagbutters 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's the most accurate description of the modern beta bitch I've seen in a while. Don't even get me started on the level of cuckoldry with the "stay at home dad" types

[–]ransay3277 26 points27 points  (38 children)

I would have to agree. I'm a little older than most guys here and I have had the privilege and opportunity to know a number of WWII vets when I was younger. In many ways they were better men than we will ever be. Just look at pajama boy for proof.

[–]maxbrooksmacbook 43 points44 points  (13 children)

They won World War II and then produced the obnoxious, entitled shit storm that is the baby boomer generation. So I dunno. Seems like a wash

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 34 points35 points  (11 children)

The boomers rebelled against everything, went off the rails in defiance of my grandfather's generation, because they thought they could do everything for free... And they could until dad stopped paying their way. While it wasn't all of them, it was a significant number and they were highly visible and this admired by those who couldn't take off and drop acid while daddy paid their bills. There were too many boomers for the WWII generation to control them. They're still fucking things up.

The boomers raised my generation based on many flawed assumptions from the hippies. A few feminist types went after the idea of encouragement for everyone, empty platitudes as motivation, amd the school system followed that bullshit.

My generation took the wheel and pushed even deeper into that myth because they wrongly assumed it would work... Same with abstinence only sex ex. Doesn't work. Far too many of us X'ers bubble wrapped or kids, trying to shield them from reality, keeping them safe because they're so precious and helpless, thinking kids are fragile or something.

My generation fucked up Iraq twice, the first time in 100 hours. So there are a few of us who can still kick ass, but many are mangina losers who have wives that control their lives. We produced you guys, and the school system and fucked up parenting advice we got made your peers weak, entitled, unable to cope with reality, and thinking they deserve greatness simply because they exist.

When reality shows up, your generation is at a loss for what the fuck to do. My peers gave you everything, protected you from anything happening, amd in doing so did you a great disservice. The boomers and x run the school system, and they've turned it into a feminine favoring pile of shit. We need another war to set things right, but it had to be right here at home for it to be effective.

Hard to blame the WWII people for this mess, they wanted a better life for all of us, and the boomers fucked all of us in the ass. There is a very good reason why boomers are called the me generation, because that is all they care about.

[–]sh0ckley 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Our Great War is a Spiritual War. Our Great Depression is our lives.

[–]MiniChipper 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Another X'er here too. Your points really struck a cord with me. Fortunately I got redpilled at an early age in college and married a gal who actually wants a "Gregory Peck type man of the house". Unfortunately though we don't have many couples friends because the wives of the other husbands are always harping on my wife about being married to a "male chauvinist".

My wife is no pushover she's a self employed small business owner and she's the one who has no time for these feminazis, the fact that she's a self made woman who wants a man that she can't push around blows their minds. But the point is these feminists will do anything to make people conform to their PC bs, so when their whining to my wife about me doesn't work they ban their husbands from have drinks with me after work.

I can't imagine what my grandpa would say about men having to sneak out for drinks with the boys after work.

[–]killking72 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's call them cockless faggots most likely.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My grandpa would laugh at them like my dad and I do. He always looked down on guys like my uncle (moms sister's husband) who bowed to their wives. My dad can't imagine living that way. She won't let my uncle drive on the interstate because she thinks it's too dangerous. Henpecked doesn't even begin to describe that excuse of a man.

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[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking right. The 80s beyond sucked. I couldn't wait until that bullshit was over. The boomers are doing their best to fuck us in X, they only care about themselves. Especially in politics and the bullshit laws. They're all about more profit, fuck everything else, or they're begging for a nanny state that will give them everything they didn't want to work for. Massive entitlement.

I listened to the music that tipper gore and the religious cunts tried to have banned. My taste has only gotten harder, more violent, and forceful over the years. I still like Sabbath, Zeppelin, Maiden, etc, but now I'm into industrial and things like slipknot and Rammstein. I have no angst, I'm not mad at my dad, I like the brutality of that genre. I'm not much of a fan of soft things, only girls should be soft. Girls like soft things, not me. I like violence, brutal, visceral, and untamed in my cars and music. Most people are too soft for me, or appear to be playing like they're hard, so i live alone and avoid people.

[–]Tono3210 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Oh cry me a river, what the fuck are you talking about?! Most Millenials are fucking intelligent, try to actually meet some of them not just hear rumors and shit. You're just whining about "shitty decades" come on, everybody have different opinions.

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[–]timdo190 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Odd, I took the smart millennials are here and they know it in a really good way. And yeah man, we really did get all the good toys...

All credit to my mom and dad

[–]vagbutters 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is my thinking exactly-- they were good people themselves but really shitty parents who raised weak children.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 10 points11 points  (10 children)

I literally swapped war stories (on remembrance day) with a very seasoned Canadian WWII vet (Hitler Jutland foes). I brought him to tears when I asked if he'd fight for this country again. Never fight for any country.

We got played like the biggest beta cucks on earth. Him maybe not, their country was pretty strong back then.

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War is a globalist ploy. All people on earth are just common folk who really do not have quarrels with each other, if anything camaraderie between good folk. It is the wealthy and powerful who create bullshit conflicts so they can profit and gain more power. Alas, I also believe it to just be human nature. Nuking the 1%ers off of the face of the Earth wouldn't solve anything I don't think. Knowing the nature of people, I don't even believe that some socialist utopia where every person is equal can exist. It's simply not in us. We are creatures who live in a hierarchy of dominance and submission. Humanity is a vicious cycle of sorts. Enjoy the decline.

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I see. What political system do you think would be better to suit natural human interaction?

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[–]dogextraordinaire 6 points7 points  (2 children)

War isn't a globalist 'ploy'. War is nationalism. Tribe versus tribe for resources- plain and simple.

The decline is the result of globalism and the woman vote.

[–]erowidtrance 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most wars aren't about nationalism these days. It's an industry. Most of the public don't want to be involved in other countries. Their leaders, who operate on behalf of lobbyists, push for war.

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Somewhat agree. But, I think its the heads of the tribes/nations that are the globalists, and they are competing for resources. The commoner gets meager spoils. Nationalism is stoked by these leaders to convince the young men to die for a cause.

[–]PythonScript 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I call bullshit. Mostly all vets from that time believe they fought for a cause greater than themselves. Unlike the later days of Vietnam, where people knew the war was horseshit. Hell, some people from WWII even told their sons not to go in the beginning because of this. This whole greatest generation kind of thinking is a myth. They did what they had to do, which any generation would have done... Fight.

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Women don't want to sleep with there children. Beta males are a less successful but still successful in the sexual market place. If your not getting laid at all your not even a Beta.

Women in general follow the 20/80 rule. Some of that 20 are Beta males. Most of that 80 are Omegas which no woman wants to sleep with.

I wouldn't suggest I can truly understand or articulate why a woman loves their son anymore then I can understand their decision process.

However, I find it highly unlikely that they seek out "cutey" which they sleep with as surrogates for their unborn children.

The BP exists for women as well. For every romantic comedy where a woman tames some alpha provider, there are 10 in which she suddenly has a change of heart and goes after a sappy but lovable sensitive guy.

While men are being deprogrammed to be saps and women are being programmed to be sexual pariah, there are other messages at play. Such as the enforcement of beta male mate selection. In the long run however the fantasy doesn't live up to the reality for most women and these relationships end in divorce or cuckholding because they are in conflict with their biological drives to seek out alpha breeding stock.

[–]PythonScript 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Using trivial example to demonize a generation. Sure, there were great men in that time, but there were also horrible people like Hilter and Stalin. All generations has flaws, it's how the generation reacts that makes them great or not.

[–]grumpieroldman 5 points6 points  (7 children)

I think you prove their point.
There's no way this generation could ever produce someone like Hitler or Stalin. The missing history lesson is that the Nazi's did not hate the Jews. They just wanted them gone.
They were occupying a great many land, homes, and business and Aryans, the presumptive controlling natives of the land, were starting to lose their society to them.
The mass killing of the Jews was called "The Final Solution" not because because it was "final" for the Jews but because the Nazi's tried everything else to get them to leave. For a while they were paying other countries to take the Jews they were exporting and the other countries kept jacking up the price they had to pay to export them until they couldn't afford to use that as a solution. Eventually Hitler ordered Heim to take care of it so he did ...
It's still very easy to condemn the Nazi for what they did.

Let's consider Europe today and fast-forward 40 years.
Those cucks allowed the Muslims to legally invaded their lands. They will breed like rabbits and violently maintain their cultural identity. All of those people are Jihadist. They are spreading Islam to Europe. Eventually they will out number the locals and they will start to control the government and will keep pushing it to be more and more Islam dominated.

With this understanding I support all the political action in France. You must assimilate or you go to jail or get deported. If a country doesn't do this now then in forty years they are going to have a serious problem on their hands and if they let it go that long then only solution then will be another Final Solution.
The Muslims have been doing this for 800 years. If we want it to stop we have to succeed in doing to them what they have failed to do to us.
People always talk about why democracy can't/won't work in the Middle East but none of them want to say it's because it will work it will just produce an even more strict Islamic state because that's what most of those people want.
Whatever "normal" people there either aren't large enough in numbers or are too liberal and cowardly to do what needs to be done.

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I read that part of the mission in Afghanistan was to teach women about feminism. Once the women get the right to vote and they get free speech/press, how hard is it to get the women to vote for women's rights politicians? Next thing you know you'll have no fault, child support, and the rest. This playbook is going to work on the Muslims the same way it did in the west. At least that is one theory I have.

[–]2comment 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Islam hasn't advanced much in over a thousand years. They had a minor age of science but that was it and quickly extinguished by the religious authorities.

It may work that way (towards liberalization), but it's just a gamble and going to have a lot more pushback than in the west.

[–]wanderer779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is a dynamic situation, who knows where we'll end up? Maybe we'll indoctrinate them, or vice versa, or maybe none of it happens.

[–]grumpieroldman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it won't. The only reason this worked in America is because it got dropped a very large liberal population who wouldn't take the heat and stand-up and shutdown the non-sense - hell men were lining up to champion the cause and ruin their and their son's futures.

I doubt many women today know that feminism only helped the top 15% never mind predict that when the movement was underway.

[–]PythonScript -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I think your point makes my point, what your basically saying is, if a group to doesn't adhere to what you believe, you basically do a Kristalnacht and if that doesn't work a country is headed towards a final solution? You are exactly opposite of what a great generation is and what they fought against. I tell you what you what we should do. 1. Stop letting them in! 2. Have a real discussion about Islamic doctrine without this, 'ohh your bigoted!' 3. Realize that the a lot of Islamic people and their values don't adhere to western values and the people who are here already, are going to have to learn to be more tolerant of others opinions/views/ideas like we have been to theirs.

The belief of free speech is a important tool and should not be suppressed by others.

[–]grumpieroldman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's too late. They already let them in.

are going to have to learn to be more tolerant of others opinions/views/ideas like we have been to theirs.

No. We don't.

What's the point of the sacrifices made if two generations later they just give away what blood for split to keep.
Your espoused ideas are toxic and will destroy our people because there's a whole lot of other people willing to kill and displace us to take our land and resources. And they have the long view. They are willing to work step by step over hundreds of years to make it happen.

[–]PythonScript 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said 'they' are going to have to deal with our views wether they like it or not. The thing about freedom is that others have the freedom to disagree with you. If they don't like it, then so what! Fuck them! They have the freedom to practice any religion they want as long as it doesn't infringe on others rights. Ironically, what your talking about is the same as them, which is basically "I don't like it so they can't do it." I'm not the "toxic" one with my crazy idea of freedom for all, you are.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I doubt that our forefathers had to contend with a horde of Tinder Drug Addicted Whores. Buying designer clothes and leaching from good daddy govt whilst subscribing to the feminist cause.

They had manageable women, all we get (if lucky) is a hot peace of fake ass with allot of STD's.

[–]Synzael 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Idk bro fuck better bitches? Lol

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (3 children)

If you find them, would you share them with us? We could form a TRP gangbang.

[–]Synzael 1 points1 points [recovered]

Lol only if you bring your own hot bitches so it's a foursome. Not my job to pimp out my hoes for free

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Of course, we can even trade plates either of us got tired off

[–]ipretendiamacat 11 points12 points  (7 children)

If my history memory serves, there was still a fairly large contingent of Americans who did not believe that we should go to war with the Nazis on moral grounds, since Hitler made it apparent that his goal was the conquest of Europe (even though FDR foresaw the larger global implications). That's why American support of the Allies was fairly muted before the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Turns out war is just not very popular.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not popular when the average person is the one doing the dying. Especially in foreign lands with zero effect on them.

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While as a whole the nation praised Joseph Stalin, especially among intellectual circles. It was so bad that for years they made it impossible to post any criticism or publish a book of him, as if some kind of saint.

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[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

This man has been reading LIBERAL HISTORY, with all it's facts and things! The truth is, my grandfather's testicles hung 38% lower than an average man's today (RP SCIENCE!), and it is this testicle differential that propelled our moral courage across the Atlantic to defeat tyranny!

Hang /u/ipretendiamacat! He's a liberal mouthpiece!

[–]topapito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back then, men weren't five minutes from spending a night in jail for raising our voice at our wife. Today, women know they can claim any idiocy and put you behind bars or even ruin your life.

So it is understandable that men today have a fear of women. I know I do. It takes a lot, and I mean a lot to get me to allow a woman to spend the night. They just have too many weapons aimes at our testicles.

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[–]SummertimeMelancholy 27 points28 points  (13 children)

Humphrey Bogart's two most famous films have him portrayed as the Nice Guy who gets nothing but heartbreak in the end. Not a good example. In real life too, he got played by Ingrid Bergman.

A good example would be Gone with the Wind and Rhett Butler-Clark Gable- with its well-known "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" line.

Also this generation would have lost WW2. By the way socialists, communists, liberals, pacifists, and isolationalists in USA did that back in WW2. The only reason they failed to stop US entry to war was due to Pearl Harbor although communists and socialists had stopped being anti-war after Operation Barbarossa.

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[–]NeoreactionSafe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My favorite:

To Have and Have Not (1944)



[–]SummertimeMelancholy 6 points7 points  (8 children)

In Casablanca Rick loses frame more than once, has an oneitis, states he doesn't give a fuck but gives a fuck on more than one occasion and in the end he risks everything he had built for the woman he still loves and in the end he lets her go but it's not abundance mentality it's "I want my beloved to be happy".

In Maltese Falcon Sam Spade gets played all along and loses his frame-gets angry and hysterical- but does the right thing and turns the women in. Still he's smitten with her despite her actions; not alpha.

The key point however is that he gets his heart broken in BOTH of these films. He's quite the badass in both of these films but I wouldn't say he's "alpha".

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[–]SummertimeMelancholy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Qualification of alpha could include a character that has both of those characters' traits plus something. Granted both Rick and Sam is far better than what Hollywood serves today but if we're going for classics I would take Rhett Butler over both of them because of his character development in which he shows how a true alpha should act in the end scene of the film.

So I'm not saying those are bad examples but they're not good ones either.

[–]topapito 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sure, let's all judge the man by roles he got paid to act in...

[–]SummertimeMelancholy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We were talking about cinema, so "context". Besides his real life is Blue Pill to the core. Including but not limited to:

  • Getting stabbed by his third wife, Getting almost shot in the head by that third wife. STILL losing his main residence to said 3rd wife.

  • Beating his first wife in public and in private. Getting ridiculed by her while she was on stage and he was on the front row. Later it would be revealed that his first wife was cheating on him with males and females.

  • Having an oneitis for his second wife, who did not follow him to California and divorced him since she was going to stay in NY for her career. (She later went to California with her second husband)

  • Ingrid Bergman playing him like a fiddle during their time together

  • Avoiding Bergman on Casablanca's set after his third wife threatened him.

  • Being a repressed homosexual. He thought he was gay and had a bout with depression due to that. We never know if he had acted on it or not.

  • Dodging the draft

[–]topapito 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You mean he acts like a human being? Wow! Go figure! We should have him banned from the red pill archives fotever.

Winning at life is not a perfect red pill alpha. It's all about making the mistakes and then... what you learn and eventually add to your life that matters. Who gives a fuck if you thought you once thought you found a unicorn?

Don't treat red pill with religious fervor. There are better choices for religious fanatisism. Red pill is all about learning from mistakes and not keeping score. Like I need another fucking score card in my life.

Show me a 100% red pill man and I'll show you a fucking liar. We're all students of life.

[–]SummertimeMelancholy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They are not "great examples". That's it.

It's all about making the mistakes and then... what you learn and eventually add to your life that matters. Who gives a fuck if you thought you once thought you found a unicorn?

I don't think you've watched those two movies but both Rick and Sam end up getting heartbroken. In case of Rick he doesn't "think he once found a unicorn" he "knows he had found a unicorn and lost it". So they don't learn from their mistakes. Add this to the fact that both these characters were quite bluepill compared to their era.

Your post reeks projection I'm afraid. If you need an example of 100% redpill from fiction-as both these characters were- try Sean Connery's Bond, maybe? And Sean Connery himself?

[–]topapito -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Uhm, I had to re-read my post cause I have no idea where you got that I was even talking about needing an example from the movies. Projecting what, that I don't agree with red pill turning into a religion? Wind yourself up all you want, but making mistakes is part of life. You set yourself up for total failure if you don't allow for mistakes.

Being red pill does not a superhero make. It is a way of thinking, that you can learn if someone takes the time to teach you. Nobody can live up to the standards I've seen some guys here demand. Oh! you took her out to dinner? Bluepill, bluepill, like kids in a school yard. This is not what red pill is about.

After school banter and dick measuring is not helpful to anyone.

[–]SummertimeMelancholy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Show me a 100% red pill man and I'll show you a fucking liar.

Get's shown a red pill man from fiction and real life. Here have another: Hemingway.

Uhm, I had to re-read my post cause I have no idea where you got that I was even talking about needing an example from the movies.

You set yourself up for total failure if you don't allow for mistakes

Both of these characters do not learn from their mistakes.

Projecting what, that I don't agree with red pill turning into a religion?

You are feeling oppressed by demands the sidebar make and now lashing out in desperation. Was Bogart and his characters your totem? Sorry about that if that was the case.

[–]JKossuth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

lol, awesomeness... Rhett Butler rocks.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yea... women like Confident, hawt men...duh.

Where the RP was valuable to me, was learning more women do not carry the Currency of Honour. They have no historical sense, they are completely aberrant outside their feelings. Some men are like that but AWALT.

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 12 points12 points [recovered]

TLDR: Nothing has really changed, we are still the same people from the Athenian Acropolis.

Well, its not as black and white as you take it. Its just that at the current juncture in the Western world, post-modern neo-marxism is the dominating ideology. Really nothing Liberal about it, its pushing coercion through a message of "Yes We Can". Liberal changed meaning after the New Deal by Roosevelt, it marked the first time in the modern era of democracy when statism was pushed in the name of liberalism. I consider myself liberal, that makes me a conservative in modern speech, which is trully fucked up and overdue for a rebalance.

Back in the interwar period, what you accuse the modern generation of was allready a thing in France and the USA. It took Roosevelt all his political capital to drag the USA into WW2, France had much better army than Germany in 1939, but slogans like "Why die for Danzig" and a strong communist movement made the French weak and ready for collapse. In WW1, France arguably fought the hardest of all the Entente forces.

There is this ancient roman or greek saying "Cry Havok, and let slip the dogs of war!" which stems from this inert, slumbering, primal force within free men that is hidden beneath a thin veneer of civilization but can be unleashed at any time. Think of 9/11. I´m not american, i´m European, but I can remember the rage and hate I felt when I saw that. Same feeling last time around in Paris and Nice, had there been a button to nuke the entire ME I would pull it without regret in those moments. I can´t imagine what it must have been like for an American. Lo and behold, You guys went into the desert and within 3 weeks Iraq was completely destroyed. Afghanistan the same. Catharsis. I remember seeing on CNN the guys and gals who volunteered explaining why they risked their lifes, it was for revenge and love of country. Fuckin ayyy, thats the spirit. It´s akin to Churchills "Fight on the beaches". But just like Churchill was kicked out immediately after winning WW2, so too have the Americans who defended their country been ousted. Petraeus career and the entire anti-war propaganda thats still a big talking point in Trump vs Clinton are proof of that.

We bring out the grunts and the commanders when we need them, but feel ashamed of needing them because they disprove all these left-wing "touchy feely" B.S stories of "turn the other cheek" etc.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It is not. Whats fucked up is play charade and put a censoring filter on ourselves because we want to promote a false sense of equality. That region of the world is disproportionally represented for all the worst qualities man can have. I know that on this sub a lot of people express sympathy for Sharia because it relegates women to the status of cattle, never mind it also relegates non-muslims to serfs and endorses pedophilia. To play PC and say its ah-okay, thats whats fucked up.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Your reading and comprehension skills are obviously not as a high as your desire to fuck kids then, because what I wrote alluded to the inert instinct we have towards revenge and violence, but we subdue under the auspices of civilization. I nowhere advocated the mass murder of anybody. Unlike you, who just put pedophilia, slavery and coercion on a lower priority than 1.5 bn, not millions, people´s rights to worship some goat-loving sky-daddy. Closeted homsexuality much?

[–]stawek 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Consider that good 30% muslims approve of ISIS. Not when a heathen asks, of course, but polls show this numbers.

The very core of islam is hatred towards infidels. A billion of people have been raised and brainwashed into this religion.

What is really, really bad though, is that there are hardly any Muslims calling for reformation. Sure, some are horrified by terrorist attacks, but their line of thinking is "isis are not the real muslims". What no Muslim ever says is "Jihad is bad", "apostasy should not be punished", "gay people should be left alone", "insulting prophet should not be punished", "women are not property".

They are wrong.
ISIS is the embodiment of Islam. They do exactly what their books tell them to do and follow exactly the path shown by the Prophet.

We should quarantine the entire middle east until they solve their own problems and come up with reformation. Remove all illegals from Europe. Ban mosques for hate speech (not ban religion as such, only the places of worship). Incessantly ridicule and demean their dumb religious doctrines, in tv, press and internet, just like we do in Europe with Christianity.

A statement "I am a muslim" should become equal with "I am a nazi" or "I am a member of KKK" and be followed by swift and merciless social ostracism.

What happens when somebody calls a black man "nigger"? His own friends will tell him to stfu, his family will have a word with him, boss will sack him immediately. There is no law forbidding that expllicitly, but societal norms are firm. This is the approach we should have towards Islam.

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[–]stawek 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What media propaganda?
The media that incessantly claims Islam as "religion of peace"? They show us what peace looks like in Middle East, inded.
The media that forgets to mention rapes by muslim immigrants?
The media that ascribes every act of terrorism to tribalism, when the perpetrators expllicitly claim religious motives?
The media that claim the Americans deserve what they get for their expansionism?

What anti-muslim propaganda in the media do you mean, cause the only propaganda I ever see is pro-muslim.

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[–]stawek 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am not writing about the wars. Sure, Bush and Co. used the extremists as an excuse to invade Middle East. Just because some smart people are profiting from the war does not make the Islam a religion of peace.

Sure, politics are bad and corrupted. So what? How is the fact of Bush attacking Afghanistan 20 years ago making the Paris or Nice attacks less horrific?

There are some specific doctrines in the religion of Islam that are simply evil. We can't fight the cultural war unless we recognize this simple fact. Old Testament is even worse than Quran (if maybe less militant), but the Christians have learned to pretty much ignore all the barbarism contained therein. Judaism isn't even much of a religion these days, it is approaching a philosophical school of thought. You can find rabbis who publicly state they do not believe in personal God and still be respected as Jews. Again: after thousands years the religion evolved to be benign.

This is what we need to demand from Muslims themselves: get your shit together, fight your extremists, change your religion to be truly peaceful.

[–]Battle-Scars 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. Neville Chamberlain was the most beta PM of Britain when he tried to kiss Hitlers ass by signing the 1938 Munich agreement.
  2. Watch any film noir movie with Robert Mitchum in it if you want to see redpill in action.

[–]alkyjason 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have traditional views and values that most people today consider to be "outdated" and I'm not going to change them for anybody. I agree that males today have become effeminate, pussified and emasculated.

[–]aanarchist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

sluts were once shamed and crazy women were once put in asylums. times have changed indeed.

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Another possible origin of the term is in the West Virginia miners strikes of the 1920s. Facing a mercenary militia hired by millionaire coal barons, the miners took pains to become organized, adopting a uniform that featured a red bandanna worn around the neck. The miners nicknamed themselves “rednecks” as a point of solidarity.

[–]oloug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Rodgers and Hammerstein musical Oklahoma! has many classic Red Pill elements and characters.

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[–]in_me_bum_mum 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This subreddit reminds me of a cult

[–]defajn96 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree. Some things are nice to read on here but the more you read the more it feels like a cult.

[–]in_me_bum_mum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its kind of scary to know some of my friends follow this stuff

[–]OneLastSpartan 8 points9 points  (15 children)

There was a time where woman were subjugated against, this is fact. There is nothing wrong with them becoming equals because in my mind they are human and they are equals. The problem falls in the inherent power women have over weak naive men. They can spin a guy using there looks. This is still clearly shown in modern media. What has been taken out is the sexual harassment and other things from those movies(think James bond slapping a girls ass and telling her to leave). Old movies are old, they tell of a different time. We live in the now and there is no going back, you just need to be smart and not follow your dick.

Tl;Dr just be a man.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I slap my girl on the ass and tell her to leave. she loves it.

[–]anglertaio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This has 7 upvotes? What sub am I on?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Masculine polarity implies different roles... inequality.

So you contradict yourself.


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Dude sounds iffy as fuck. He's too neutral... must be SJW.

[–]OneLastSpartan 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Being a man is equal to being a women. There is no polarity I did not contradict myself. If you have white bread and rye bread both are breads both are equal but both are different. Equality doesn't mean equal in the way we act and our roles, it is equal in the law and opportunity available. The two are the same but different by existence.

[–]topapito 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Where do women not have equal rights today? And if they are so fucking equal, why have women olympics? Celebrate equality and let them compete equally. Die equally at war.

The fact is that women have always enjoyed their submissive role. Buy a girl some flowers, open doors for her, wipe her tears. You are good nice and sweet, but they're gonna go and fuck chad thank you very much.

I gotta check to make sure I'm in the right sub. This is the red pill no?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So an Elephant and a Giraffe are equal because they are both animals?

Actually Animal Farm did a good job describing such thinking...


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would argue that a positive and a negative electrical charge are equal in strength, say one proton and one electron. The strength of their electromagnetic force are equal, yet they are polar opposites. Any physicists etc please correct me if i'm wrong. I studied biology and chemistry.

[–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Polarity in that men and women are supposedly opposites. Two different things are likely not equal, but I don't see why that even matters. It's true that superiority was used in the past as an excuse to abuse less developed groups, but I don't agree with that logic. Even if you are legit better (whatever that means) then someone doesn't mean you get to make all their decisions and that they don't count. My point is you don't need equality to treat everyone with respect and decency.

[–]OneLastSpartan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure the "better" can treat them with respect but they will harbor contempt and hatered and it will one day boil over. At that point you have modern society.

Where all the red pill reality come into play.

[–]grumpieroldman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are equivocating on the meaning of "equal".

A lack of equality is some stature does not mean there is a lack of respect.

[–]topapito 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What are you doing in red pill? Just be a man? Wtf is that? You mean be a pussy whipped provider and supporter of women's rights (agendas)?

GTFO of here

[–]xinihil 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good lord you are drunk on edge. He means be a man, literally. Don't be a beta orbiter who lets a woman gaslight and use physical violence on him, and don't get thrown in jail for sexual harassment.

[–]OneLastSpartan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when has being a man meant being a whipped bitch? Get real.

[–]BigMan1844 5 points6 points  (1 child)

In all fairness Europe would be better off under the Nazis than the clown show they have on their hands now.

[–]grumpieroldman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We are making excuses about how Muslims aren't all that bad right now.
Hypocrisy is part of their culture and part of their jihad. They will say one thing publicly then go do another.

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Yeah, watching old movies makes you realize how thick the modern conditioning is.

Comparing leading men in the 1950s to now is a night-and-day difference.

What it means to be a man has fundamentally shifted in the last 50 years. Absolutely massive change, with no explanation for the younger generations except: "Old white men were racist authoritarians. Fuck them."

We live in fucking weird times, man.

[–]throwawayyourliberty 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If the Third Reich would have won, we would have no liberal women by now. Instead Europe lost 10 million male soldiers in World War 1 and 20 million in World War 2 for nothing and nationalism or tribalism became a mortal sin for half of our population.

Your conclusion: Liberal women would have been embracing Nationalists?

Would be the first time they are doing the right thing.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 1 point2 points  (0 children)


THE BLUE ANGEL, make sure you get the original, directed by Josef von Sternberg and starring Marlene Dietrich.

Marlene Dietrich's hit song from The Blue Angel, English version: https://youtu.be/UnqL_g1xako FALLING IN LOVE AGAIN

[–]pdpbigbang 2 points3 points  (6 children)

ITT 4chan white neckbeards posting 'Hitler did nothing wrong'

[–]grumpieroldman 4 points5 points  (5 children)

What do you think will happen in Europe forty years after the Muslim invasion?

[–]pdpbigbang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They might have to add more Arabic to their public places

[–]Steve_Wiener -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Ancient cultures subjugated women for a reason. They're irresponsible sluts incapable of being objective about anything and they sure as hell should not have ever gotten the vote.

Men gave away their power and there dominance over women and now the western world is going to hell real fast.

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Indeed it was once. Either way what makes it deadly now is that masculinity is being actively hunted down and being killed. Its sad how things have changed BUT thanks to the new age we have stuff like this and certain sects where manhood is valued.

[–]aRedThought 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It still is common sense in certain areas. Come down to the south. You can speak redpill all day and no one would be surprised at anything.

[–]xinihil 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What state? I'm in Georgia, everyone's a pussy.

[–]aRedThought 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AL, can't speak much on Georgia. There are pussies everywhere though.

[–]cashcow1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If this generation would have had to fight WW2 we probably would have been making excuses about how Nazis weren't that bad after all.

If this generation had to fight WWII, it would have created men out of most of the generation, like it did for our great-grandparents.

[–]1dongpal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the men who had balls died and the pussys who stayed back survived

[–]randarrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ebbs and flows dude. Isn't that the point of the Trojan war story, entire fleets of dudes sail off for decades to die because of one hypergamous slut?

[–]anglertaio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let’s not forget John Wayne’s The Quiet Man. That was only 50 years ago.

[–]MrbdS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it very disturbing how this whole board is supposed to dismantle certain illusions, while on the other hand posts like this make claims by comparing imaginary male roles/attitudes from certain time periods... IN FILM. :D

I'm glad you relate to movie stars tho. I'm guessing relating more to 'earlier' movie stars makes you feel more alpha?

If this generation was to fight in a WW I'm sure your beliefs and opinions would come first, right? As much as it might seem honorable and 'manly' to fight in a war pls keep in mind that it is most definitely one of the worst things a man can go trough.

I usually love a sense of brutal, honest reality on boards like this. Oh well....

[–]seius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They were Red Pill because they were fighting in units together, they saw their friends get blown to bits, and when they got leave to go to whatever town was safe, they fucked all the local women and went back to the front laughing about it.

Their society was completely red pill, so of course when they went home and made movies, they used their culture.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -4 points-3 points  (21 children)


Nazi's were Dark Luciferian


In other words they were more similiar to the Globalist Tyranny than not.

The Blue Pill is a mythology... it's just the dumbing down of humanity in order to service the Globalist Tyranny.

So keep all these metaphors straight.

We are dealing with three levels:


  • 555 : Brainwashed, dumbed down, Androgynous beta male slavery.

  • 666 : Nazi's, Globalist Tyranny, Dark Luciferian, Dark Triad, psychopathic egotists with a tendency towards Nihilism.

  • 777 : Fully Red Pill, Amused Mastery, enlightened, awake, conscious, stoic, not a slave to ego or to the Blue Pill.


[–]AlerioX 22 points23 points  (2 children)

You are smoking some weird shit lately.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sorry, no drugs here.

I'll drink alcohol sometimes, but I make sure not to post when I do.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Slave labor is the best labor (blue pills) amirite?

[–]NeoreactionSafe -1 points0 points  (9 children)

Tyranny is designed with a ruling class and a slave class and is 666.

Freedom has a large middle class and is 777.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Can you link more info on this?, I've seen you mention it several times. The 555, 666, 777 stuff.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -1 points0 points  (7 children)

It's essentially an entire way of viewing reality.

This might get you into in a more "user friendly" way:



[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Link title is:

911 An Inside Job & A Dark Occult Human Sacrifice Ritual

100% confirmed truth.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Great video huh?

I watched again last night... Mark Passio did a great job explaining 666, 777 and the whole system of how the numbers are used symbolically.

It's funny how ignorant of the Torah most Christians actually are. The true meaning of 666 is more profound than "scary Satan cartoon" which is the popular view in the Christian imagination.

The biggest problem with Christians is they never bother to understand how a Jew who knew the Torah would actually think.

Imagine a religion that worships a guy and the followers know nothing of the leaders thought processes.

It's tragic and funny at the same time.


[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yea, I watched it 3 times, each time had to adjust the tinfoil hat because Baphomet was channeling his beta energy and it kept falling off.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (2 children)

There are two ways to see reality:


  • Normal vs Crazy

  • Brainwashed vs Awake


...so one asks:


"Which reality are you living in?"


[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Apparently in the one without bullshit esoterics, numerology, demons and universe-level unpredictability.

Run out of Kabbalah secret wisdom to post something that would prove me false?


You're just a TRP version of a SJW.

You use confusing language, you deliberately misuse words, you have ZERO interest in discussion about actual CONFIRMED facts. You just plow onward with your "studies" of mystic-kabalistc "secret" knowledge, that nobody but the "ancient masters" AND you can see and if someone points out the absurdity of your "wisdom", you just dismiss him with "brainwashed" categorizing.

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[–]topapito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a numbers game man, now shut up, take those numbers, and go play the lottery. Your blue pill if you don't win.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let the master teach you:



[–]Tono3210 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha! Okay dude, but why so much hate? Do you hate retards? Instead of complaining about it why don't you help?

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