MetaWelcome to the Desert of The Real (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil

A lot of different groups lay claim to the Red Pill metaphor. For us in the TRP subreddit, the Red Pill is the belief that we live in a gynocetric society. For the Alternative Right, the Red Pill is the belief that race is a major factor in individual and group behavior. For MGTOW the Red Pill is the belief that women aren't a good investment of time and resources unlike videogames, Mountain Dew, Fedoras and Cheetos.

None of these concepts are the real Red Pill. The real Red Pill is far bigger than those things. The Red Pill is an all encompassing truth that affects everything you see think feel and hear. The real Red Pill is the fact that you and everyone else are trapped living fake lives in an artificial existence.

Six years ago my first girlfriend told me, "We Need To Talk." The phrase was delivered in a way that let me know there was going to be at least a second girlfriend in my life. What followed, was a barrage of trite statements: It's not working out, We aren't compatible, My emotional needs aren't being met, Let's Just Be Friends.

She was right. We weren't compatible. I knew her for six weeks and kissing someone who smoked Camel Reds still felt fucking weird. But that wasn't the point. That's not what bothered me. The breakup was not what bothered me.

What did was the feeling that I had experienced the breakup before, that I had heard the same phrases and seen the same tears and dramatic gesticulations before. The breakup somehow didn't feel genuine. This was my first breakup but at the same time it wasn't.

I had indeed experienced this breakup before and so had my girlfriend. We had seen this breakup in movies and television many times. The only difference was that she was performing the Rom Com breakups she grew up watching in real life on me. Unconsciously she had transformed fantasy into reality. She made my real life follow a script that was probably written by a fat balding Jew somewhere in Hollywood.

People are social creatures. They do what they see. And the vast majority see thousands of hours of fictional television movies and internet. Which means that people live years of fictional lives. The problem is that even if you cut yourself off from the consumption of fiction, people will still force their fiction unto you.

In fact, we are in a time when fiction governs our reality. What does a normal relationship look like? What is a normal dinner? Is homosexuality normal? It wasn't in the sixties when the television played ominous music while two men kissed. But homosexuality is normal now because now the television plays the Aww sound and jubilant music when two Men kiss.

You eat what you see in commercials. You fuck how they fuck in porn or at least try to. You dance how they dance in music videos. You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

You are living a life completely absent of reality. Welcome to the Desert of the Real.

That is the real Red Pill.

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[–]rayyaal 79 points80 points  (62 children)

Imitation isn't the problem though. Imitation is natural and necessary for the progression of any and all forms of understanding. When you're born you imitate your parents, you imitate your siblings, you imitate your friends. Hell even everyone on here is trying to imitate someone who embodies the image they see themselves attaining.

There's this book called Mastery by Robert Greene (TRP suggests a lot of his books). A big part of mastery is the Apprenticeship Phase, which is described as a phase in which you try to forget your ego and embrace a mentor to guide you in his way in order to better understand your chosen field. Part of that phase is doing literally everything your mentor asks, copy everything, watch everything, and remember that you don't have the expertise to yet decide how to creatively diverge.

When you have gained a healthy amount of knowledge and perspective, you can move forward in your distinct way. Then you can incorporate your creative drive to understand and mold your chosen field in the direction you please.

You can't start with creative, you have to start with imitation. TRP started with PUA. When emulated, it created something deeper in its proponents because it drove certain individuals to find an over-arching behavioral approach to analyze the sexual marketplace (eg. Tomassi) and help newbies imitate and focus their thirst for knowledge (and pussy) in the right direction.

That being said, fuck commercials.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 64 points65 points  (59 children)

Imitation of fiction is the problem. What compounds it is the fact that if you are following a mentor that mentor could be imitating a fiction. Therefore by transitive property you would be imitating a fiction. You cant gain knowledge or perspective by imitating fiction.

How many men try to imitate James Bond at hotel bars? How many Girls imitate the manic behavior of the Disney Chanel? How many grandparents mindlessly repeat what they hear from CNN or Fox News? This is a problem with no solution and no end.

When you speak to a person how do you know if they are responding via conscious thought or via subconscious imitation?

Speaking to another point. PUA and to a lesser degree the derivative TRP, are deeply flawed in that they are an imitation of fiction. Women expect to be approached teased and asked for their number. Every part of that interaction is prescripted right down to the phrase I don't usually give my number out to guys

You will be much more successful with women if your behavior is self generated, organic and spontaneous. Women will fuck men for a taste of The Real.

[–]Rufferto_n_Groo 45 points46 points  (0 children)


It's a terrifying thing to be a leader, be real, make decisions with limited input. I found a quote long ago from a fav author of mine in this regard:

“What are the facts? Again and again and again – what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what “the stars foretell,” avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable “verdict of history” – what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your single clue. Get the facts!” -Robert Heinlein

I get scared when I have to make major decisions, and it's usually from lack of facts. So I have to research, use my own judgment, weigh risks, and make a decision. Then I make the fucking decision and take the consequences.

Following a herd, whatever kind of herd, and trying to blend in is bluepill, and it's a reaction to fear, the inability to create your own thing.

For myself, redpill is creation.

Creation involves making mistakes, fixing them next time, and making sure that there's a next time.

[–]CQC3 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Fuck yes. I had slowly begun to realize this both consciously and unconsciously since my early teens and it's not a glamorous understanding in the least. Quite frankly, I can honestly say it was a great gift and an immense curse. Realizing that most things are scripted and fake, and that most people are so blissfully unaware of what they think they know is merely the aura of what they saw on television or in other collective media. This forms a bank of largely false information.

When people think of the wild west do they think of the real wild west or do they think of Sergio Leone's interpretation of the wild west? Or some bullshit they've seen on TV many times over?

This is essentially what a postmodern life is, drowning in information, the real and the fake become indistinguishable. Paradigms open up and truth becomes a matter of context, and nothing can be confirmed. Pretty soon, we are having secondary or tertiary experiences instead of primary ones. The imitation becomes the real thing. The genre becomes more important than that which spawned it. Aesthetics become more important than reality. Persona over personality. There's the time period that the wild west genre is based off of, then there's the wild west genre, then there's the 2016 version of the wild west genre in which we just borrow certain aesthetics to denote to the audience that this is the time period we are setting the plot in. What if those aesthetics are historically inaccurate and then come to falsely represent the wild west aesthetic? Imitations upon imitations, fictions stacking on one another.

Understanding the severity of this will destroy you in some sense, and you must build a stronger man out of that. One who embraces his truly solitary nature. Because for you to behave genuine and true, it is something only you will know. Everyone else will just wonder what character you're playing or what shows you watch.

As usual, the internet and tech just exacerbated an existing problem, nothing more.

[–]Mithra9009 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sounds like some "Society of the Spectacle" type stuff.

[–]redknightcrusader 5 points6 points  (1 child)

"You cant gain knowledge or perspective by imitating fiction."

This sums it up perfectly. Our socio-cultural environment is a facade created by people too scared to face reality, and perpetuated in an attempt to protect them from the natural law.

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just worse now because everyone is connected via social media and things like TV have progressed to the point where there's virtually no reason you can't always have something to distract you. Before when people didn't have access to things like TV you had to make your own fun. There may have been a society of followers but there was still reality because fun necessitated doing more than sitting on your ass.

[–]jackandjill22 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Do you think independent thoughts becoming a lost art in our society?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

What percentage of the posts on TRP are the result of independent thought and what percentage are rehashing of articles events and cultural memes?

[–]jackandjill22 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Socratic method at work. Good point.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Depends if you want to buy a t-shirt or not.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do not lament the loss of something that never was. Society has never been driven by 'free-thinkers'.

[–]jackandjill22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Society lives off of the sweat of the backs of the most intelligent."

- Ayn Rand

[–]rayyaal 2 points3 points  (22 children)

Imitation of fiction is an exercise in futility because fiction is inherently scripted. You won't get any argument from me there.

I would say that media and entertainment have skewed the global perspective and truth has become harder to grasp through that medium, while at the same time the proliferation of information has made truth easier to find (though possibly harder to grasp given the saturation of information available to us). It's up to the individual whether they choose to mirror the truth or the fiction.

Can I summarize your post to: don't believe everything you see on TV/the Internet? Or is there more to this that I'm missing?

[–]1StoicCrane 32 points33 points  (6 children)

Commercial influence extends beyond the internet and television screen. Even if one manges to unplug they still have to navigate a reality where billions of others are still deeply enthrenched in this all encompassing system. This matrix. It's much more than just unplugging. It's about learning to be and remain genuine in a world of artifice.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Exactly this. I hope people understand how serious this is.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a profound lonliness that came over me the more I experienced the widespread inability human beings have for authentic thought and communication. At a certain I felt like reality was like a computer game with thousands of charachters all saying the same dozen pre recorded lines over and over again. The thirst for the real is part of what draws me to radical ideologies easier to find authentic communication there.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Perception: Exit the matrix and enter the game.

Reality: You were always in the game, you just didn't know you were playing it and losing.

TRP: "Even if one manges to unplug they still have to navigate a reality where billions of others are still deeply enthrenched in this all encompassing system. This matrix. It's much more than just unplugging. It's about learning to be and remain genuine in a world of artifice."

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This should be memorized.

Think as you like but behave like others. Law 38.

[–]rayyaal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So it's less a question on the efficacy of imitation and more about awareness, mindfulness, and the pursuit of true authenticity despite the overwhelming influence that society will project onto individuals.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 33 points34 points  (13 children)

No you cant summarize my post as: Don't believe everything you see on TV/the Internet?

In fact the only reason why you are making this false equivalency is because you heard the statement: don't believe everything you see on TV/the Internet, many many times.

You feel comfortable with that statement because of its repeated use. Therefore when you see novel content you replace it with the mantra so you do not have to go through the work of understanding it.

Your whole existence and every thought has been dictated to you by other people. You are a Golem, an Automation and so is everyone you know.

Even though I am making you conscious of this it will soon slip into your unconscious and you will resume executing your programing.

[–]rayyaal 7 points8 points  (9 children)

Actually my intention was to have you clarify the part of your post that differs from that platitude, not to offend your writing capabilities.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 14 points15 points  (8 children)

I'm not offended. The frustration is trying to expose people to a novel and relevant concept and having the message lost in a sea of confusion and simplification.

[–]rayyaal 4 points5 points  (5 children)

And I can appreciate your efforts to do that, but changing your posture to "attack" from "educate" is highly ineffective, especially when one of the people you are trying to expose to this novel and relevant concept is trying to understand it through discourse.

Copying everything you see is bad, my argument is: imitating some things is good; I would even go so far as to say necessary. Whether you follow things that speak to truth (non-fiction, researched and sourced material, some of the advice on TRP, etc...), or 'fiction' (commercials, tv shows, established paradigms, some of the other advice on TRP) is up to you as an individual. Evaluating the efficacy of something when you encounter it is a healthy way to decide whether or not imitation will help or hurt.

[–]1StoicCrane 16 points17 points  (2 children)

The message is more important than the delivery. If someone said 2+2=5 in a nice, calm, relaxing, appealing voice does that make the statement anymore true? If someone said 2+2=4 in a harsh, aggressive tone does that make the comment any less true? The delivery is irrelevant. The underlying message is infinitely more important. Use your rational thought to bypass your emotional weaknessess and discern truth to resist being controlled.

[–]rayyaal 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's a good point, thanks.

[–]TRP_DarkTriad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But the real world buys this shit very much. If a crooked, malicious or <insert bad term here> car sales guy blabbers shit about a BMW and how it would save him a lot of dollars in the long run, people believe them even if there are a lot of articles on the Internet and old users agree that driving a BMW for longer periods of time will cost you dearly. We should remove our perception on delivery and get into the "real desert" of the "message" as you stated. Great point!

[–]And_n 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Imitation is natural.

The problem is that so much of what we imitate is false. Mass media is a deliberately distorted version of reality. Someone who imitates what they see on television, which everyone does, is following a manufactured script. At best, the script is written by wishful thinking of the way the author wishes the world was. At worst, it's propaganda, a deliberate deception with an agenda.

Our actions should be guided by real-world experience, to produce real-world results. Imitation is one of the ways we achieve this. By imitating pretend-world reality, we inhibit our ability to learn what works best in the real world.

This ties in to another facet of TRP philosophy, that un-learning falsehoods is just as important as learning what is true.

[–]Stythe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the key. To learn and grow we need to imitate to a degree. We're all human and we learn through that imitation. The problem is as tou said. During our need to mass produce note and more ways to entertain the markets we repeat the same message and water it down again and again until the message is drivel. It was novel the first time someone threw out logic to sell something with a silky emotional message that lacked information, but it's so mainstream now that people think mocking and getting people riled up emotionally are how things shoukd be done. Weve lost quality for quantity. And the longer it goes on the worse it gets. Seems to me like that's about the biggest reason we are where we are. Attention via shallow entertainment is our drug and most don't even know they use it, let alone want to quit.

[–]Unholy_VI 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What he's really trying to say here is this:

"BWAARRR lift heavy shit, game bitches and take your dorritos and porn to the MGTOW forum you fedora-wearing neckbeard pussies!"

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The frustration is trying to expose people to a novel and relevant concept and having the message lost in a sea of confusion and simplification.

"you can lead a horse to water But you can't make it drink" ...

btw ... who are you to decide for others, what constitutes a "novel concept?

What 'novel concept' are you referring to?

The only thing 'different' about TRP is it's terminology, Ideas like "AWALT and AMALT have been around " for a lot longer than TRP existed

[–]Bamarific 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GLO, you have absolutely nailed it with this one! After reading this, I made a few experiments in posts and discussions. No matter how off-the-track I start a conversation, the canned ideas rush in to jerk it back into the boring track.

It's like the original subject doesn't even matter. People are just looking for an opportunity to unload the programming.

[–]hjgo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a great piece of information.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You butchered his good piece. Don't simplify shit for the sake of it. You only condense something only as far as message remains clear. GLO already did that, you just didn't see the compression process in his head.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 1 point2 points  (7 children)

PUA and to a lesser degree the derivative TRP, are deeply flawed in that they are an imitation of fiction.

If it's stupid but works, it's not stupid.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 17 points18 points  (6 children)

Digging a canal with shovels works but it is incredibly stupid when you can use machinery to do the job cheaper and faster. The question isn't could it work it's how well does it work and is there a superior method.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 5 points6 points  (4 children)

RSD + TRP gives results.

Do you have anything other in mind (the "better technology")?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll a write a post on it soon.

[–]antariusz 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm getting laid often, maybe it makes me lazy. I'm not driven to innovate because what I'm doing is working. When it stops working. That's when I am driven to something else.

The problem is, it's hard to imagine a scenario where "hey" on an app like tinder stops working. To 18 year old girls, it's natural alpha condensed into raw textual form. When I think back to 10 years ago, and I read about mystery opening up a set with a magic trick. Yea, you know what, maybe that might actually start to work again, because probably the latest round of club sluts haven't been exposed to it. And things go around in circles.

But for now, "hey" and trying to be all pure, raw, masculine, stoic machine... Works. And it worked 10 years ago, when guys wrote the first "going caveman" PUA field report on a girl, I don't think "going caveman" will ever go out of style.

[–]Rathadin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RSD, is that Tyler's company you mean? Real Social Dynamics? What's he up to these days?

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking more like Vinkatesh Rao, when he writes on mental models, or economic theory

Most models aren't correct, many are useful. Theres most likely a lot TRP gets wrong, the insights may be flawed, the reasoning is bad. But at the end of the day, the goal isn't to fully understand the world, but to navitage it successfully. So what if hypergamy isn't the actual way AF/BB works. If it gets you to a point where you aren't the whipping boy for a fat ass princess, then it's correct enough

[–]asianlover111222 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Hey im new here.... Just wondering.... Why is ur name, "Gaylubeoil?"

[–]Proto_Sigma 7 points8 points  (4 children)

/u/GayLubeOil is an avatar of Brodin famous amongst TRP for his crass and unapologetic delivery of Red Pill ideas. His username reflects both his tendency and desire to make his readers uncomfortable, (which I presume was a motivator for your question). It's also a reference to his role in making sure the you take the Red Pill in as deeply as possible (insert homoerotic joke here.)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Thats not why his name is GLO...

[–]Proto_Sigma 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Then please enlighten me, why is he called GayLubeOil?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

long story short there was a guy who used steroids, when they caught him, the steroids said gay lube oil.

[–]Algernoq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"GLO" is an inside joke about steroid smuggling. The legend online is that steroid vials imported into Australia were labeled as "Gay Lube Oil" so customs inspectors wouldn't inspect them too closely. GLO took this as his username for the reasons you mentioned, but also as a reminder that "Tingles Uber Alles"

[–]1falling_tiger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–]atomsk413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "The Strange"

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[–]alexander_23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Joe_Mac from my pov it starts with awareness.

Knowing that a pure natural reaction is possible, knowing that you have an essence in you is the first step. When you were born, you existed, pure and just yourself. Then you learn from parents, other people and such the "rules" of life.

TRP and other paths (such as Zen and more esoteric schools of thought) all allow you to start hammering away, removing societal crap, to once again get to your core essence.

It takes work to get back to what you really are.

Ironically, you will imitate steps from other masters to find your own routine.

You will have to learn from other how to move out of your comfort zone to shock yourself into your real self (be it doing martial arts and getting knocked out, or traveling on your own in countries you don't speak the language, or in the case of the late great Patrice O'neal, get on a plane-fly to Rio- experience local hookers- come back with a focused articulation of random feelings that culminated in his great work as Black Phillip).

In the end, it starts with knowing that you are not you, but the sum of other people's (real and fake) ideas that are presented as "rules".

Internalizing that, will help you start to move towards getting back to the essence of you.

As the famed mystic Gurdjieff liked to say: I ASK YOU TO BELIEVE NOTHING that you cannot verify for yourself.

[–]Tipsy_Gnostalgic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by imitating a fiction? As in someone behaving similar to a character that they saw in a certain medium? Or as in believing that which is false to be true?

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. On a side note, it becomes very noticeable if you stop keeping up with general distractions. TV, movies, games, the news. Drop these things and focus on yourself. It becomes insanely hard to have a natural flowing conversation with a majority of people. They just don't seem to be able to talk about much of anything else.

[–]evilpuke 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Think it was Phil Anselmo of Pantera that was asked any advice for new guys getting into bands. He said copy steal borrow music from other bands. Eventually you will grow into your own.

[–]nuferasgurd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The entirety of the Suzuki method (famous for violin/string pedagogy which has been applied to other instruments) is founded on the principle of imitation. Beg, borrow, steal is an oft repeated phrase in music, and education on a grander level.

[–]OSaraiva 124 points125 points  (20 children)

You eat what you see in commercials. You fuck how they fuck in porn or at least try to. You dance how they dance in music videos. You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

That's how it has ever been. Great kings ruled, their minions obeyed. Whenever empires grew weak, other men with stronger will and greater power who'd inspire their followers would come and take their land and their women. The religious leader says you cannot fuck? Who would dare disobey, other than sex starved, victorious invading armies eager to bang your wife and daughters.

So we are living in times with a different packaging but the same basic idea. The stronger define rules and take whatever they want. The meek obey and get whatever is left.

That said, my Red Pill is collecting the greatest moments i can. That's what makes me feel alive, regardless of society, unwritten rules or whatever. Just do it.

Nice post.

[–]Menhad 26 points26 points [recovered]

"while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" -Thucydides

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[–]dart200 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol. it take a lot of strength to just sit down and just suffer suicidal ideation. i've found saying no to all the bullshit people tell me repeatedly try is a lot harder than trying to do something.

[–]psycrabbit 12 points13 points  (3 children)

If I had gold I'd give it! So many times I try to say this in other terms to co-workers and friends and they look at me like dull-eyed cattle. This time in history and the age of interplanetary trade/commerce will be fascinating to see in terms of human relations.

[–]The_DogeWhisperer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Adding to the discussion is infinitely better than giving gold.

[–]OSaraiva 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It should be fascinating indeed, for better or worse.

[–]beautifuldayoutside 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is an enjoyable post, but, agreed. We've always used 'fiction' as a substitute for reality since we could communicate to each other.

[–]1WeedDaddy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That said, my Red Pill is collecting the greatest moments i can

Such moments and pieces become less and smaller, as the dominant interest groups tighten their hold.

Ultimately, focusing on yourself is a losing strategy.

[–]OSaraiva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's no losing or wining, just life, a limited amount of time on this planet. Do whatever you enjoy.

[–]sx_appeal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the naked truth. Plain, simple and haunting. Regardless of all the philosophical ideas and thoughts (what I like to call mental masturbation), and the plague of over thought, in the end it's about being truthful to oneself and doing what needs to be done to get what one wants.

My problem with the visual is that it enforces us to live inwardly (in our minds) where we stop feeling the need to act to change our futures. We start thinking about changing the future but without action. Thinking becomes enough.

The strong and the weak. All of us go between those two states where we are strong with respect to one but weak with respect to the other. The hardest thing is to confront one self that he is weak and needs to change something.

Thanks for the post!

[–]dart200 0 points1 point  (4 children)

gold because i dunno i do that.

That's how it has ever been. Great kings ruled, their minions obeyed.

yeah well, that's actually another thinking box. :) only after the rise of civilization. there was much more time before there were there were no kingdoms to rule. as such, there were no great kings and barely power struggles. doesn't actually need to, or should, be like this.

and the reason is an egalitarian society always makes everyone happiest. the reason the rich always was more is the cravings they feel comes from the dirth in power from which they extracted. you can't escape karma, Man. lol. i know you're going to claim you can, but you can't. causing suffering with your action always comes back around.

other men with stronger will and greater power

or more luck. wills haven't been getting stronger over time, it's just chaos and time whittle down all who try to stay ahead, leaving a vacuum for those who they caused cravings in to come and take over.

The stronger define rules and take whatever they want. The meek obey and get whatever is left.

well i'm planning to be the strongest and establish universal consensus. no strong and no weak, because that is the society propels us into the future, instead of petty squabbling over scraps compared to what humanity could be doing.

That's what makes me feel alive, regardless of society, unwritten rules or whatever. Just do it.

true story though. fuck the rules. live with integrity.

~ god

[–]OSaraiva 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Even the little animals struggle for power and sex (or the right to pass their genes for another generation) in their own circles. Kings and kingdoms didn't came to be out of thin air.

Even peace and/or egalitarian movements have leaders who take their herd into a direction.

[–]dart200 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Even the little animals struggle for power and sex (or the right to pass their genes for another generation) in their own circles.

kind of? humans have explained it that way because of projection. no animal 'cares' about 'rights' ... they're just following sensory experiance without overreaching awareness. we're humans, self-aware, conscious beings, in ways we currently can't quantitatively measure. but with such awareness, we can establish systems where everyone's needs get met, and no one is competing because of scarcity. they can compete because of games, not survival. it can be done.

Even peace and/or egalitarian movements have leaders who take their herd into a direction.

kind of. but someone like Gandhi or MLK wouldn't say he 'ruled'. it's not about just taking power. they don't consider it rule vs followers. they are manifestations of the will of the masses. they simply organize the masses, it's not about 'lead'.

egalitarian movements have leaders

this is somewhat a contradiction too, given the standard definitions. if there is a leader vs follower hierarchy, then it's not catagorical egalitarianism. that's why you need universal consensus to supply the 'leader's will', who then directs the masses. that cycle is the only way to truly have mass organized egalitarian movement.

and i'm pretty reality is going to filter us out if we don't so do. this idea that nature is about solely competition is dead wrong. and it's ultimately about cooperation, because only with cooperation can something better than the sum of it's parts, actually emerge.

right now, we've made every individual's life about personal survival, such that no one is thinking about societal survival and sustainability.

[–]OSaraiva 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I think you are hoping for some unachievable utopia. We are pretty much animals with a thin veil of morals as a disguise.

Btw, rights are not given. They are achieved through power. Power is legitimacy. When you approach a girl and you are nervous and weak she'll notice. She'll scorn you as you have no power, which means no legitimacy or right to approach her. If you come from a position of strength (be it physical fitness, noticeable respect from others, confidence and good game, something else i cannot remember now or generally a mix of some of the above) she'll welcome you. You earned the right to approach her.

[–]_TheUglyDuckling_ 20 points21 points  (9 children)

You eat what you see in commercials. You fuck how they fuck in porn or at least try to. You dance how they dance in music videos. You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

This is what I was thinking about for years. Monkey see, monkey do. Amazing post.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

At the advent of television, art imitated life.

10 years later, life imitated art.

People want what TV tells them to want. They want a Brad Pitt or a Mila Kunis.

You can make it work for you though.

Pick a celeb that you somewhat resemble, hit Google images for pics of them out in town, and select your wardrobe accordingly.

You will receive better treatment from strangers without any added effort on your part.

Remember that classic elegance always trumps faddish frippery.

[–]_TheUglyDuckling_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Our ideas on how life should be came from what we saw on TV.

If you think about it, we have no clue how it all used to be one century ago. Even if we had exact depiction today, we're still moulded by what was implanted in our minds by mass media during our formative years.

[–]StoicThePariah 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Tyler Durden tried to warn us.

[–]IWishIWasARealBoy 8 points8 points [recovered]

You mean the fictional character that also was not real in the world that he existed in?

[–]StoicThePariah 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I mean, he was real. He was very real to everyone but the protagonist. The only fake part was his appearance.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tyler Durden was the protagonist. The guy we thought was the protagonist was fake, and didn't exist until the very end when he shot himself in the cheek.

[–]latin_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But we can't really fight with this.. can we?... even the words in our mind came from someone teaching us a language

[–]Black-Pill 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Can I be the Neo to your Morpheus ?

No Homo

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 24 points25 points  (4 children)

You wanna swallow my pill? No homo...

[–]Black-Pill 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Sure, as long as you promise to take me to the Oracle's place for cookies right after ...

Still No Homo

[–]dingman58 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Total homo here, what you gonna do about it

[–]2virusofthemind 17 points18 points  (3 children)

In the persuasion community this is known as "social script theory".

Back in the ancestral environment people learned how to behave given different social circumstances by watching how others reacted and internalising the methodologies observed into a default heuristic for themselves.

Nature decided to give a trapdoor straight to the belief/limbic system when those behaviours involved the triggering of an emotion in ourselves or seeing it expressed in others.

Emotions are an even older behaviour adjustment dynamic to save our ass in various different situations but the move into a tribal existence meant that expressing them at the wrong moment or inappropriately could bring an abrupt end to your gene line.

So...watching and copying how others reacted in emotional situations was an astute way not to rock the boat and be seen as a loose cannon on board (which could jeopordise the tribe) and be seen by your fellow tribesmen as being a normal guy who posed no threat and could be relied on if needed.

Nowadays the majority of people get their social script from movies and soap operas and internalise what they see as being the norm and copying it. Unscrupulous agents of persuasion use these vectors and the limbic trapdoor to piggyback new "norms and behaviours" into the general population for their own agendas (feminism, race, gay rights etc).

Here in the UK you can't watch a soap opera without coming across gays having relationships (see it's normal) or Westernised Muslim characters (see they're just like us) and even total super cucked betas acting out an onscreen character that makes you want to tazer their scrotum (all though to be fair you do see the odd Chad Thundercock for the ladies - get's the viewers coming back for more hypergamous titillation).

Some of these scripts have become so systemic into society that they're accepted as an absolute and even control how people react in deadly situations, like falling to ground if you're shot even if you're just winged for the simple reason that: That's what happens in the movies.

[–]Titan_Coeus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Valid point - however let's not forget the parents involved in this shamble.

Whilst learning "scripts" comes from life experiences. Media consumption is seen as a secondary enforcer, with parental guidance/friendships viewed as the strongest enforcer.

We've also lost key areas of development that force boys to mature into men. There's literally no antagonists in society that pre select strongly for boys to become men.

E.g. War, work from a young age, forced conflict sports.

[–]redestofthereds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What persuasion community do you hang out in? Do you know of any reading material that relates to NLP?

[–]DetachedLad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beautiful. This gives an evolutionary perspective on the motives behind our predilection to employ imitation -- "not to rock the boat". Good complementary part to GLO's overall point.

What's weird is that these "unscrupulous agents" are typically unaware of their own machinations. So in fact, calling them "unscrupulous" might be an undeserving merit. They are just golems and puppets themselves. But then -- who is the puppet master? Where do the strings lead to?

For a long time, I had a hard time understanding what CH meant when he used the phrase hive mind. This is what he meant: these unscrupulous agents, acting in concert to propel the imitation of a dream, a fake ideology of brotherhood and equality that erodes our society. Sickens me.

[–]1ToSeeAndToHear 27 points28 points  (8 children)

GLO I love you bro but this is just the art vs life debate. Art imitates life, life imitates art. Kids in the fucking Iron Age probably imitated their parents and tore at their clothes and hair when grieving.

Everyone copies, no one is 100% original and authentic. Except for humans raised with no culture, who are barely recognizable as human.

Copy, steal, act like others. Put your own spin on it. Make your story have a different twist, take it interesting places no human has before.

[–]Gardrothard 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Realizing that almost all emotions are just learned reactions really changed my life. Copying is fine, as long as you are aware of what you're doing and why.

[–]asotranq 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I don't know if this is true honestly, blind people smile, so it's a natural reaction to joy, and how would they know how joy manifests itself within themselves. Also, when children watch cartoons with their parents and something sad happens, they're likely the only one in the room crying, they aren't mimicking others, it's how humans naturally express this emotion.

[–]Gardrothard 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree that smile is natural reaction to joy, but I don't think joy is something that is very objective (except in few cases where dopamine is produced due to biological reasons). Well, the example you've given is hard to isolate. It could be the music in the cartoon or other things indicating that something sad has happened. It could be empathy too. I guess you are right that is something intrinsic.

But I still think most of them are learned behaviors. For example, some of my friends grew up watching Sex and the city, some grew up watching romantic movies. For the first, the brake up (no matter who initiated it) was a happy thing - more CC riding. The other kind would just dwell in sorrow for months. In some cultures funerals are parties, in others there are just bunch of people crying.

I think that there are very few things that are just good or just bad, but because of culture influence people focus on different parts and end up having different emotions.

[–]asotranq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For your funeral example, people feel mixed emotions about these types of things, sometimes people will be grieving the loss of someone, but also may be happy that they're no longer suffering, the former will be the emotion shared with people at the funeral, and for cultures where a funeral is a big party, the latter. Just because an emotion isn't shared with an entire group isn't it say that the individuals will not feel it at another time.

[–]blackedoutfast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, no, smiling isn't a reaction to feeling joy. It's the other way around. When your brain receives the stimulus that tells it "something good is happening" it sends the signals to your facial muscles that make you smile. THEN your brain receives stimulus "I am smiling" and you start to feel happy.

[–]The_DogeWhisperer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Culture is vastly different today than it was in the Iron Age. Most people spend their whole days constantly absorbing information on their phones/computers. Authenticity is much harder to find in people.

[–]EdmondDaunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree and I'll go one further. This pattern is a consequence of the Least Energy Principle. So it is universal in all complex systems.

We have this in ourselves. The conscious and unconscious mind. The conscious mind is a construct (or so it is believed) that is an easier way to just get on with things rather than having to deal with making all those decisions. It wastes too much energy doing that. Much better to create a self perpetuating illusion until that breaks and a new level is formed.

[–]1jb_trp 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The problem is that everyone is "flying the plane under construction." Everybody is learning life while life happens to them, and figuring out how to act and respond to things ,usually on very limited knowledge or understanding. Your ex-gf used those lines (most of which were total bullshit), because she probably didn't have the awareness or understanding herself of the truth. It's not like she's going to say, "I'm not attracted to you anymore. You showed a lack of masculinity that I'm repulsed by, and there are other, more masculine men I'd rather sleep with and date." So everyone is living in the lie whether they acknowledge it or not.

TRP is great because it finally gives men answer and framework for understanding the world around them, so they can make informed decisions about life and sex, rather than the gynocentric lies that have been shoved down their throats for decades.

[–]Literallyoprah 20 points21 points  (12 children)

Normal doesn't exist and anyone who tries to sell you on the idea of normalcy being either desirable or achievable is a con-artist or actively trying to impede you in some way.

Don't be normal, be authentic.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 22 points23 points  (10 children)

According to magazines the Surgically created Dick Woman known as Bruce Jenner is Normal and you are a bigot if you say that she/he isn't.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 17 points18 points  (7 children)

They've disavowed him/her now. He/she came out as a conservative.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One will forgive just about anything a person does... Except being a part of the 'other'

[–]sigma272 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to secretly pay that hijab-wearing muslim Olympian to say she's a Trump supporter. Then very quickly start a business selling extra large coffins to the families of tumblrinas.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you need a holiday in Australia GLO

that Jenner shit/celebrity worship shit doesn't fly too well down here ... more 'slash and burn'

we call it "the tall poppy syndrome" ... coz it's the Tall Poppy that's the first to get it's it's head/pod cut.

[–]erthian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Normal is the statically most common attributes. It's lack of awareness of, or refusal to believe in, what's normal that creates a self fulfilling prophecy of normalcy.

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[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Meh, calling them abusers is a form of ego. The world is out to get you? No, the world is indifferent to you.

No one is taking advantage of you, that would require you to be something on someones mind. Like the gym, people too afraid to go because everyone will look at their man boobs and laugh.

No little boy, everyone is too busy staring at their own guns in the mirror to notice you

[–]hores 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should've made this it's own thread. True to reality and much more actionable.

[–]octoberguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks bud. very very good post.

[–]bowie747 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I've always known it on some level, but since unplugging it's becoming clearer by the day that everything you see and hear has been planted there in order to maintain control.

Governments and global elites have implemented systems en masse to keep their people distracted. A distracted people are a complacent people. And a complacent people don't overthrow corrupt governments.

They inflate and deflate social issues (BLM, sexism, immigration) systematically to keep us focussed inwardly on each other. If we're too busy calling each other racists, we'll be blinded to the true nature of our captors.

This is not the natural order. These pieces did not fall this way organically. They have been planted to keep you blissfully placated.

I can taste it in my food. It's disgusting.

We have a choice though. To be aware is to have the power, and to have power is to take it from them. Soon there will come a time when we either plunge head-first into a dystopian wasteland, or transcend our current environment and beat the system. Basically we have to be Neo.

[–]RedPillFreedom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like to think of Red Pill as a combination of becoming neo and embodying fight club.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Society has always been driven by something. During the Middle Ages in Europe it used to be by the Catholic Church, where people were openly told what they were allowed to do.

The difference between the present and the past is that there is no longer an institution explicitly telling us how we should live and how we should act. In the present we live under the illusion that we are "free", that our actions have not been influenced. Nowadays, we are fed information (through news, TV...) and we behave based on what we perceive.

Society does not realise that we are just as constrained as our ancestors were 500 years ago and that the only difference is that today we are told what to do in a covert fashion.

[–]zintarweb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"None of these concepts are the real Red Pill. The real Red Pill is far bigger than those things. The Red Pill is an all encompassing truth that affects everything you see think feel and hear. The real Red Pill is the fact that you and everyone else are trapped living fake lives in an artificial existence."

Yes. As defined in The Matrix, the red pill was escaping the illusion of artificial existence. And before that, the special sunglasses from They Live.

There's a purpose to this artifice, just as there was in the movies. Power and control. Even concepts of TRP can be manipulated and twisted to further their agenda; shunning family and children, indulging purely in alpha conquest to the detriment of an otherwise potentially powerful new family that may rise and threaten the old established families.

Eastern philosophy and New Testament Christianity plays into their hands by promoting the spiritual, the after-life, shunning the here and now for "a better place".

TRP is one facet of the real Big Red Pill, one which may lead people on to unveil the truths in other facets of life. The lies are deep and abundant, everywhere and anywhere. Hyper-skepticism is the only answer, to which, you appear to be paranoid and delusional to everyone else. For which, your best option is to obey the rules; do not talk about Red Pill...

The saying "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" may thus be better written as "better to keep your mouth shut and let the fools expose themselves than to open it and expose yourself to fools".

[–]Docbear64 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is so solid, I found myself wondering the other day why everything felt soooo ...forced. I watch T.V. and see this band of rappers who are nothing more than caricatures of rappers of the past. I see Trump and hilary on-screen who are both clowns trying to wear presidential makeup . No matter where I go or who I meet their is just a lack of authenticity and sometimes I would say even awareness . This has finally allowed me to see why though . Why everything feels so fabricated . I thought the redpill was about sex and relationships but this "sight" this understanding / embrace of the world and most people around me being actors in a stage play is fascinating .

Not sure where to go with this but I am happy to finally understand this most recent splinter in my mind.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think what you're getting at, that a lot of people seem to be missing, is that TRP is about holding reality above all else. We live in a world that is so saturated with fiction that our expectations of each other and our lives are unrealistic.

All ideas are subject to reality. Reality is non-partisan and does not care how people feel about it. People on all sides of the spectrum have a tendency to deny reality if it serves their interests or narrative. Now that people no longer have to fight for the bare necessities, now that they can spend most of their time living in fantasy worlds, they don't have to face the hard facts of our world. Until, of course, the world changes as a result of negligence.

[–]PragmaticRedTruth 4 points4 points [recovered]

The Red Pill is living in society in a dualistic nature.

You're the all knowing, all seeing, and you're stuck here, mouth sown shut, the only exit is death. But, you know what you're living isn't real, it's a fabricated social experiment that you unknowingly went on the ride for. Ego, money, status, it's all a mask... and a funny one too.

The only way to live, is to play the game.

[–]TRP_DarkTriad 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Having realized this hard truth after TRP was the most life-altering event after TRP. Playing this game after knowing the caveats and hidden truths is hard but rewarding.

[–]aanarchist 2 points3 points  (2 children)

very good observation, i've noticed similar. it's impossible to be authentic with people whose lives are imitations. i remember this one girl i used to date who had crippling social anxiety like she would constantly try to filter herself and say things that made everyone like her, constantly trying to manipulate people. i was like babe just be yourself it's fine to say dumb shit that comes to your mind. she didn't have the self esteem to be her authentic self, and eventually started trying to get me to follow her prewritten script that wasn't even written by her in the first place. it was just sad as fuck.

[–]Docbear64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know so many women like this that it's unfortunate . They are anxious because they believe their is a being they should be , they know they are not it and they feebly try to be her so they live in this state of self-loathing .

It makes me want to feel sorry for them except when I have had these women as plates and they have shown me just how much they disdain blue pill men it creates this weird place. They don't know how to exist or measure up as a woman to a higher value man (perhaps that's where the attraction stems from ) but they almost turn into cats toying with mice when it comes to men they perceive as low value .

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lived with an LTR like that. She'd binge watch TV shows and get sick/whiny/needy on the weekend when it was time to go out, and I'm a social guy who likes to boogie, but have an even bigger heart so I'd stay with her. I've found isolation is a powerful tool, perhaps the ultimate tool. She then convinced my estranged friends that I was an asshole and they are her friends now. I'd still do the same for a girl who wasn't playing me, I'm working on not being an easy target.

Edit / addendum: Actually I don't know if she was playing me then, or really just hitting me progressively harder as she found I wouldn't hit back / notice she was hitting me. I found TRP not long after her, as I was going for an older oneitis. In any case, our relationship would have ended almost right away if I'd had any self respect as I'm gaining now.

[–]red_question 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The most sobering thing to realize is that the most convincing fictions are the ones woven to disguise the paths that lead inexorably to reality.

I don't think most people who are taught to hate this subreddit understand what it's about. Not even close. A large percentage of people who think they understand TRP have never visited. Another large percentage has visited, found an excerpt to satisfy an immediate confirmation bias, and then proceeded to leave forever. A smaller percentage, I suspect, is comprised of the lurkers, the concern trolls and the autistic. But even those folks know they're here because there's some gravitas to TRP that compels their presence. Most average people at the top of the bell curve, the casual redditors, the run-of-the-mill Progressive college kids, the demographics that seem to care the most -- they're the ones who know the least about what we are.

TRP and the collective manosphere has become revolutionary. We talk about revolutionary things here, and that is the point - we are not culture or what it accepts. We are counterculture, and it is sensed. For many, that same gravitas that attracts the flies is easier understood from a distance, and a sad percentage of actual smart people are happy to let the feminists and the career Progressives educate them about the shadowy outskirts of town. There's too much risk in discovering for oneself what lies outside the egalitarian utopia of Pleasantville, after all. Gravitas changes people when they get too close, and people know it. Feminists do too. I suspect this explains a little of why they're so shrill and insistent that we are evil.

[–]jamesso33 3 points4 points  (0 children)

“The girl is infectious human waste, and she's confused and afraid to commit to the wrong thing and so she won't commit to anything.” Fight Club

[–]beginner_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's ironic but I can't shake a feeling that "Just be yourself" actually is true but on a completely different level than what it currently means.

It doesn't mean stay fat and complacent. It's doesn't mean you can just go on as you have been for the last decade.

If you interpret it in having your own thoughts and ideas and live by them instead of going after the script (work, get GF, marry, kids, die fat and unhappy), it actually becomes a very good idea.

[–]Docbear64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the issue then comes from understanding the origin of your thoughts . when I was plugged in I THOUGHT I wanted to take care of a wife and family even if it meant i had to sacrifice my life. I thought this because I was told that being in that position would make me a being capable of deserving love.

In that situation being myself was seeking approval my perspective now of being myself is being someone I love and admire regardless of those around me .

All of that is to ask of course what was being myself ? Was i being myself when i was looking for the validation of others? Am I myself now that I have embraced a more selfish perspective? what is my true self and who can evaluate that , and wouldn't that imply being ones self changes as your mind and therefore your " self" does ?

Not disagreeing just exploring the context of what a universal " be yourself" truth would be that would be comprised of both the plugged and unplugged mindsets.

I suppose it's a rabbit hole though.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Game is such a deep concept.

I agree 100% with the thought process at play here. Our reality is entirely manipulated and the frustration I feel is that once you start speaking in ways that are outside the "Official Narrative" (David Icke term) you are an easy target for ridicule.

You essentially have a choice:

You can experience the pain associated with having a reality that deviates from the "Official Narrative", react defensively, shrink up into your shell in fear, then simply give into the powers that be.

Or you take the Red Pill and in effect make yourself an eternal target.


My aging mother (84) is a point of contention for me these days.

She is so crafty at "pretending" to be enlightened while actually doubling down on the Blue Pill illusions and it really pisses me off at times.


Anyone ever seen Brideshead Revisited?





It's the story where the "Mother" of the family, Lady Marchmain, is very crafty in completely distorting the Catholic teachings to serve her self absorbed female needs.

She manipulates the whole family so that the family basically falls apart.

But she thinks she is holy... while everyone is driven into distraction because of it.

This is how reality gets distorted on the personal level.

When you get to the level of seeing Game in everything you see how certain people can twist reality for their own purposes and this can destroy a family or destroy an entire civilization.

Control of Game has been lost in the West.

Globalists now control everything... to those within the Blue Pill you make such an observation and they say:


"No, that's just a conspiracy theory you silly boy. Everything is fine."


You know the truth... but you pay the price in speaking it.


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough they bring the same mentality of "social imitation" into here, by trying to strap down "red pill" as some kind of thing or philosophy they can use. Everyone is scared of chaos!

[–]bornredd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You just need to be yourself and gather followers for your behavior to become the norm:


The bit about the dancing idiot is grand, but very poignant.

[–]RedPillFreedom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck, man.

I wasn't expecting two solid posts back to back.

Hitting home runs with these "True" RP posts.

I try to limit consumption heavily like you said. Other people project their fiction on to you. Best strategy I've developed is use my fiction to overpower theirs. If I read books about warriors then I embody their characteristics.

Besides Yellow Pill, what reading could you provide on better being prepared for the bullshit that is known as the modern world.

How can i turn this Sahara into Shangri-la.

[–]dingman58 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Good post but that's a shit t-shirt

[–]TRP_DarkTriad 0 points1 point  (1 child)

At least, he runs his own company and I give him my 2 cents for that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basically fight club. I watch that movie at least 3 times a year to keep myself in check.

[–]1StoicCrane 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's about time TRP was redefined. Many newcomers perceive it as a place where they can feign personal progress for the sake of validating their feeble egos. Being dependant on synthetic, fleeting externals without ever feeling satisfied.

They allow themselves to become mindslaves of their object of pursuit, women.These are the type who lift for women, get rich for women, dress well for women who fail to take an introspective step back and place their life's aims into perspective. The type the resigned self-flaggelating MGTOW community love to condemn and mark as the standard for all TRPers.

By sifting through the conditioning, the fantasies, and indoctrinations to haplessly comply & confom to intangible "social authorities" we empower ourselves to become our own guiding principle in reality.

Whatever this new found sense of clarity is directed to whether it be laying scores of women, becoming financially/mentally independent of the mass consumption mindset, or live a completely fulfilling life is up to the individual to choose. So long as the intent is genuine and devoid of imposed commercial/mainstream influence who's to judge? Everyone's sense of actualization manifests differently.

[–]The_Meissner_Effect 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you haven't seen Terry Gilliam's fantasy-thriller Brazil, go and watch it. The protagonist creates fantasies to escape from his dull reality.

[–]Docbear64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love that beautifully bonkers - insane satirical movie .

[–]marduk_nibiru 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles. Everything that was directly lived has moved away into a representation."

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

Until you can spend a week alone in the deep woods, desert or on an island listening to the wind tell you want to do, you are not a man. At some point in your life, you must do this.

But homosexuality is normal now because now the television plays the Aww sound and jubilant music when two Men kiss.

Interestingly enough though, male Spartan citizens made shoving their dicks in each other's asses look masculine. They just did it in between killing lots of people and taking their women. There wasn't a Spartan female that would dare do call them on their behavior. These days? Yeah, you get a long stream of hipsters talking about how the are bisexual, and then wonder why their unicorn girlfriends wants to open up their relationships. Women detest these boys. Women did not detest Spartan citizens.

So what is the difference? A real man doesn't experiment with his feelings, feminine side or sexuality. He just fucking does whatever he wants to do. He makes a world that bends a knee to him doing whatever he wants to do. Sure, it might include buggery, but who am I to tell them where their will takes them?

Disclaimer: no homo.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

great post man keep up the good work, also your shirt is pretty cool.

[–]CRAIBaby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great post. I feel too many people on this sub see TRP as the truth, neglecting the fact that

  • it essentially focuses on a part of the truth (specifically sexual strategy)

  • even though there is a lot of quality information out here, a fair bit of it is distorted

I am glad you see it this way.

The true Red Pill is seeing the Real. The Whole.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why did you remove the post?

[–]LuvBeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"...a script that was probably written by a fat balding Jew somewhere in Hollywood" LOL. This is why I hate it when people reference some series as some sort of authoritative source on anything.

[–]zolzks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people have avoided life for so long that they have no idea what it is. Most people would rather collect the artifacts to display to the friends and family than actually do anything for purely their own motivations and desires.

You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't teach it how to float on its back. Worse, the horse is just itching to go back to the stables to brag on horse Facebook about how it was taken out to the water, completely missing the point of the excursion.

There is a minority that is feeling, thinking about, and discussing anything real. The rest rather buy the t-shirt, wear the funny hat, spout the lingo and learn the secret handshake.

The reddest of red pills is that this describes TRP perfectly. And the PUA web forums of the 2000s. And the Usenet seduction forums in the 90s. Heck we could get serious about this and go back to Christianity and Buddhism etc and it is the same old story. "His name was Robert Paulson !!!".

[–]RudeJude92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once again, GLO, you've said some words and those words have blown my mind all over the wall behind me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this post man. It has been 28 days since it was posted. That's pretty much how much it took me to reassess a lot of shit in my life. I feel like this helped me grow as a man and get a new perspective on some things. I don't know if you come up with this stuff yourself but keep writing it.

[–]makeitproductive 5 points6 points  (10 children)

What's the point of this post? It sounds like the epiphany of a 15 year old. Yes, our society influences our behaviour, but this in itself has nothing to do with the red pill.

TRP is about clearing the field of all the bullshit (Society' bs, women bs), understanding what you want and how to fucking get it. It gives lost men who come here a kick in the teeth and the tools to deal with todays world, much like a good father would.

The desert of the real... Fuck me, thats cringy.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well fuck me, I only recently discovered I was pooping the wrong way. You actually have to turn around so you have a neat little table for your drawings and such. Smh, no one told me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I stopped reading at "video games"

[–]redestofthereds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This makes me wonder if it was Mexican soap operas that destroyed marriage in Hispanic families.

[–]aherne18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most men and nearly all women are herd animals. They do whatever authority tells them and shun anyone not being part of the herd. This could be easily exploited by inserting a corrosive propaganda into "what everyone does" then let the disease spread itself.

[–]erthian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real red pill is knowing that everything is a farce, but not caring.

[–]SafeWordIsCommitment 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Think you are meeting the girl you met online? Nope.

That's a photoshopped picture of a woman under heavy makeup using very specific camera angles from 8 years ago. 5 fucking degrees removed from the real person.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Think you are talking to the hot spontaneous guy you met off Tinder? Nope his behavior waa taught to him by a bunch of jerkoff relationship gurus on the internet.

[–]Goldfulgore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now that you are post redpill, did you figure out why they broke up with you?

[–]nillotampoco 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh. My. God. There has to be more content online discussing this "reality reflecting media" I NEED to read more about this.

How would you search for this online, does this concept have a name?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[–]-LiterallyHitler 0 points1 point  (1 child)

For the Alternative Right, the Red Pill is the belief that race is a major factor in individual and group behavior.

Just because something is the most controversial doesn't mean it's the core foundation. Also, "alt-right" can't really be pinned to any single group so we can't really speak for it.

[–]ELLEN_POO 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Boys, i don't know why this was removed but it's archived on archive.is. Use the browser plugin to go to the archive.

[–]Benny757 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that same movie was the blue pill lense. Fast forward modern times and the movie ends quite reddly.. In this new release its her screaming "What? What??!!! You are dumping me??? After all we had??!!! FUCK YOU, Benny!!!!" Too which I reply by hitting the end call button, smile, turn off the phone after blocking said number, after which my screen with her in it fades to black, me continuing to smile as I lean back and doze off in peaceful sleep....

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real Red Pill is the fact that you and everyone else are trapped living fake lives in an artificial existence.

Bingo! The Red Pill metaphor acknowledges the pain of realizing that EVERYTHING and I really mean EVERYTHING women EVER told you about love and relationships and marriage and sex WAS A LIE. ?EVERYTHING. All the assumptions you based on what your sister told you were a lie. And so was what your mother, aunts, cousins, friends, girlfriends, lovers, wives, ALL of what they said to you about sex and relationship and attraction was a lie. A look in your face and passionately argue type of lie, but it was a lie.

When you realize that it really is like waking up from the Matrix. The Red Pill is a perfect metaphor. Homosexuality is "normal" now because every single TV show has the "cool gay guy" who is wise, smart, funny, and deliriously happy. Soon every show will have a tranny and chicks with dicks peeing in the girls bathroom and showering with 14 year olds. You will be kicked out of school and labeled "transphobic" if you grimace or shame she/he/it in any way just as today you are labeled "homophobic" if you dare grimace when 2 men are kissing on screen.

thousands of hours of fictional television movies and internet.

Not to mention tens of thousands of hours of vampire rape porn ala 50 shades. Reality is a social construct.

It wasn't in the sixties when the television played ominous music while two men kissed.

Yah, that shit was not even considered until movies like Brokeback Mountain in 2000's. Men kissing? Not even in the playbook.

I don't think of GLO as a Morpheus- more like Tyler Durden:

Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all who claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think everything you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told you should want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive.

[–]sx_appeal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Network 1976 - We are in a lot of trouble

You might like this movie OP!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The comparison of the gays limps, there were gay people long before the invention of the tv.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Hey where'd you find the designs for the t-shirts GLO?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I hired a professional artist out of london

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (2 children)

good thinking bro, but you NEED a LOT more variations with both prints and the 'cut' of the clothing if you want to cash in on this market ... plus the jpgs that show the designs of your t-shirts NEED to be 10x larger for browsers to be able to even see them on a ph, I cant see tham on my computa, they come up as thumbnails which don't enlarge well

I'd tell you what I thought about them if I could actually see them!

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks bro all feedback is appreciated. This really helps me in a big way.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mate, if you really mean that I'd be happy to share a few more ideas that might help ... but first, having a photo I can see would be a good start! lol

and hey, if it goes global I'll be your SE Asian sales manger! ; D

[–]lIlIIIlll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If someone ever wrote a matrix/fightclub fanfic, you guys would probably rip your own dicks off from masterbating too hard.

[–]whatireally 0 points1 point  (5 children)

But homosexuality is normal now because now the television plays the Aww sound and jubilant music when two Men kiss.

For years I bought into the gay rights thing. What woke me up to what you wrote was how quickly the whole world suddenly became transvestite lovers and the next thing you know the world is full of 13 year old transvestites.

[–]2Archterus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post GLO. The forces at work are both ubiquitous, powerful and to some extent synergistic with human nature. The French philosopher Rene Girard wrote of mimetic desire. This being the unconsciously driven desire to have/attain what one sees others having/doing. One can easily see how this can and is being exploited.

[–]runswiththelions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly. Solid post, you raised a critical theory notion that should be addressed.


Secondly. There is no escaping the system. Humans were created to be servants. For instance, looking back at the First Civilization, God created man and woman with "free will" but told them not to eat of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evii. How can it be "free will" if you are instructed not to do something? (The same can be seen in Greek Mythology, when Prometheus brought fire to humans.)


A system will always be in place. A system needs to be in place. Remember what the architect said in the Matrix? The first Matrix was destroyed because humans would not accept a perfect world" (or something of the sort).


You will always be in the system, for when you exit the Matrix, you are only entering another version.

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