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Red Pill TheoryAction Always Beats Intention - a cheat sheet on game / approaching (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]voomer53 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Your McDonald's or mine? ...works great for dinner dates.

[–]sj2k 58 points59 points  (0 children)

These are great examples of openers, well done

I actually use the "looking for a rich girl" line but end it with wanting to be a latin cabana/pool boy (I am very white) or a stay-at-home dad with no kids

[–]trp_ocd 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reposting, and reminding us you're still around. Gotta keep this team together, it's all we got as we improve ourselves.

[–]no_face 55 points56 points  (50 children)

Lots of good stuff here. I'm going to suggest a few changes based on my experience:

"Where would you take someone on a blind date?"

Canned Mystery Method openers were effective in 2004 but are now well known. My suggestion is to come up with your own, that reflect your unique style and personality.

"Where would you take someone on a blind date?"

I'm asking because my friend over there just moved to Los Angeles

My suggestion is to not open with a lie. Most people are uncomfortable lying and this will cause anxiety, adding to the anxiety of approach.

Oh no, a [location] girl? You guys are trouble.

Canned replies actually will be effective here. However, you will always feel more natural when you develop your own style of banter. Remember, you will always be a poor copy of Mystery or RSD but you will be a stellar original of yourself.

Final Note: Being attractive and high value will make all of this easy. Being unattractive and low value will ensure that none of these work. So work on improving yourself first!

[–]RPSigmaStigma 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Personally I think The Game was the worst thing to happen to pickup. The problem is, people read it as an instruction manual, but it isn't. People read that book and think that magic tricks are a great way to impress girls. Mystery didn't learn magic tricks to pick up chicks, he learned them because he was interested in magic and was already working as a stage magician. His use of magic in pickup was just his way of incorporating his own personality and interests in to his pickup style.

The lesson should have been to find something you enjoy and are good at and incorporate that in to your pickup style. The problem with The Game is that Strauss is a simple-minded aspie who took Mystery's personal style as a cookie-cutter guide instead of learning the underlying principles. So people read The Game and get a simple-minded introduction to Mystery's pickup style instead of his general theories of pickup.

[–]1rife_omeqa 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Underrated post of this thread right here.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Man, I could write an essay on these kind of problems and misconceptions. I've thought about writing an OP for this sub about it, but it would just get buried among all the other random bullshit "bro, just LIFT, bro, just LIFT! Seriously, bro, LIFT and fuck dem bitches, bro." posts... That shit gets upvoted like gold, like /u/GayLubeOil and his trite /r /GetMotivatedAndBuyMyTshirts shit.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I never reply to anything but this comment hits home. I dream of a red pill sub where we can discuss real intergender dinamics without everyone parroting "LIFT FUCK 10 GIRLS LIFT". Then they complain about MGTOW being an echo chamber, lol. Game is something you develop by falling flat on your face hundreds of times trying to pick up girls, not something you internalize by about it. That said, canned openners can help if you don't posses good social skills.

[–]AttackOnKvothe 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Final Note: Being attractive and high value will make all of this easy.

Always spot on. Have the best preparation possible.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Somehow at first I misread that as "have the best penetration possible", which would also be good advice. :P

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        [–]nuferasgurd 10 points11 points  (8 children)

        You got dealt the hand you have. Just keep improving even if it's an uphill battle.

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          [–]nuferasgurd 5 points6 points  (3 children)

          The thing is, there is no top. There is no finish line that says "You made it!" The only end is death. You have to learn to take each day as it comes and live in the present. If you can't enjoy the now you will never find peace. If you don't already you should start meditation.

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            [–]nuferasgurd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Set aside some time to figure out what you want from life. Set concrete goals then break those goals into short term goals. After you have those goals set stop worrying. Nothing comes from worrying. Action keeps us grounded in the present, so get busy working towards what you want.

            [–]chaseemall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            My mindfulness comes from lifting. It comes from feeling every muscle I'm trying to move and where I'm balancing.

            I'm then doing the same thing while walking, feeling my body and how it moves.

            I like to categorize things I'm anxious about into threat levels. 10 is "I'm literally about to die," 5 is I'm at some risk of injury here, physical or otherwise. My life will be affected significantly. 0 is no threat. If it's below a 7 it's not worth worrying about.

            [–]RPSigmaStigma 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Have you considered therapy? A good therapist experienced with adult ADHD can do wonders.

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              [–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Maybe find a different therapist. There's nothing wrong with shopping around for a therapist. Good therapists can be hard to find.

              [–]newgrounds 0 points1 point  (4 children)

              Battles were made to be fought

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                [–]newgrounds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If you aren't aware, you can't lose.

                [–]no_face 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Lose your concern for the judgement of others. This is called many things by the wise: Stoicness, (mental) yoga, IDGAF, etc.

                Know what you can and cannot accomplish.

                Go ahead, attempt what you must and do not care about success or failure.

                Live your life this way for about a year and you will be confident

                [–]madethewrongmistake -1 points0 points  (11 children)

                Put on your female thinking cap (fickle, narcissistic, petulant) and come up with a reason for them to approach you. You have something they want and think they can get by flirting. Now don't give it to them. Done deal.

                [–]jzekyllandhyde 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                You could use this to never approach women ever. Elaborate

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                  [–]madethewrongmistake 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                  They want junk food. Be a waiter. They want a quick buzz. Serve coffee or bartend. They want to get into the cool clubs. Be a bouncer. They want homework answers. Do it early. They want a discount. Be a salesman. They are afraid of being fat. Be a personal trainer.

                  Fickle. Narcissistic. Petulant.

                  I'm sure you're all kinds of awesome. Great; they don't don't give a fuck about that right now.

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                    [–]madethewrongmistake -1 points0 points  (3 children)

                    Because they want shit. This is not an elaborate theory; stop overthinking.

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                      [–]madethewrongmistake 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      Well, another option is to be a research scientist in a 99% male field, and pretty much never see women. That's what I chose, but not until after a few years in the night club industry where I slayed quiff mercilessly to the epiphany of how pathetic most of them truly are.

                      There are many more practical ways to have something that women want that don't require sidelining career goals. They want to be invited to things. Organize a cool event. A lot of them work as recruiters. Be a top achiever in your field.

                      I really don't know why you are fighting this. It is the most logical and simplest concept out there. Come back to it after you've spent a year trying to master 'game'.

                      [–]nuferasgurd -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                      Then you either have nothing to offer or don't know what women want.

                      [–]antariusz 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                      Surprised you didn't comment on "hands off the merchandise"

                      In my experience, if a woman begins touching you, unsolicited, it's game on, she's looking for you to escalate and isolate. She feels comfortable with you. It's not a shit test. (At least it hasn't been with me).

                      Touch her back, put your arm around her, act like you've known her for weeks and treat her like she's your girlfriend.

                      [–]RPSigmaStigma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Well, my theory is that anything can be a retroactive shit test. If a girl starts touching you, and you suddenly start to get over-eager and act like her touching you is something you aren't used to, it'll register as an automatic DLV. Playing a little push/pull game in these situations is a great way to sub-communicate that women initiate touching with you all the time and you're used to it.

                      Edit: to be clear, the "hands off the merchandise" line is intended to be delivered with a wry grin and a playful attitude.

                      [–]no_face 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      This is correct. For beginners, I would simply start with holding her hand. If she recoils, pretend like it never happened and continue conversation. If her hand relaxes in yours, escalate further at a comfortable pace (don't be too fast)

                      [–]marplaneit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      Some of these openers are so fucking cringy. The funny joke is the way to open.

                      [–]youcantdenythat 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                      If you're attractive, it doesn't matter what you say. You guys need to bang this line into your head with the biggest fucking sledgehammer you can find:

                      She WANTS you to come talk to her

                      She wants you to break the ice. It doesn't matter if you come over and ask her "What's your sign?".. ok maybe that one is too lame, but even canned pickup lines are fine if its not corny and you use it to break the ice because SHE WANTS YOU TO COME TALK TO HER!

                      [–]rayboomboom 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                      Straight up honey really I'm askin Most of these niggaz think they be mackin but they be actin Who they attractin with that line, "What's your name, what's your sign"? Soon as he buy that wine I just creep up from behind And ask what your interests are, "who you be with"? Things to make you smile, what numbers to dial You gon' be here for a while, I'm gon' go call my crew You go call your crew We can rendezvou at the bar around two

                      BIGGIE SMALLS THE RED PILL PLAYA

                      [–]RPSigmaStigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      I think canned lines are great if delivered in a strictly ironic way. You know, in that winkwinknudgenudge "it's funny because it's cheesy" kind of way.

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      This is perhaps the most motivating realization. If you're decently good looking and lift, basically the majority of women want to fuck you. All you have to do present yourself in a confident way. You just need to satisfy a small part of their social/evolutionary conditioning which seeks to weed out the total losers. Every man out there just needs to chill the fuck out, have fun and let it flow.

                      [–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 45 points46 points  (0 children)

                      that banter section was cringeworthy as fuck. i really hope you don't say any of that shit in real life.

                      [–]writemeoffgiveuponme 11 points12 points  (21 children)

                      These are great. Post more if you have more! Do you have a good reply to "I have a boyfriend" when you know they're shit testing you?

                      [–]trp_ocd 32 points33 points  (2 children)

                      So do I. It will be our little secret. Shh

                      [–]BrosacTheRed 29 points30 points  (1 child)

                      "Don't worry, I'm not gonna steal him away"

                      [–]2virusofthemind 19 points20 points  (4 children)

                      If you've approached from behind or out of her peripheral vision then it's most likely an autopilot response as you startled her and her unconscious mind comes out with the response she knows is the most effective in getting guys to leave.

                      If the approach is correct and you do engage her and the subject of her having a boyfriend does get mentioned the best reply is simply to nod and carry on exactly as you were ;Tyler Durden of RSD calls this "barreling through" and it's very effective.

                      By not reacting at all you're not only showing alpha credentials you're creating confusion in her mind as to if she has misread the approach and you may not be actually hitting on her at all.

                      For the next 3-4 seconds she has to run a frame re-evaluation program in her mind and for those few seconds she undergoes what's known as a "Transderivational search" where her limbic brain increases its percentage of information processing to assist the pre-frontal cortex.

                      When the limbic system is accessing the "real world" without attenuation from her PFC (the critical factor) then whatever you're saying or doing gets unimpeded access to her attraction and sexual trigger centres. If you're familiar with embedded suggestions then this is the best time to use them.

                      Indicators of a transderivational search are: Softening of muscle tone in the face, pupil dilation and slowing of speech cadence.

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                        [–]RichKingOfBangmar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Another speed seducer. Greetings from Boston, brother.

                        [–]Peter_B_Long 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        "Don't worry, we'll try not to make you feel like a third wheel"

                        [–]JeeBs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        My favorite reply when they say they have a boyfriend is:

                        "Whoa, we just met, and you're already telling me your problems?!"

                        [–]dhump 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        When inviting a girl out, my response to the boyfriend excuse has usually been "that's fine, he isn't invited anyways".

                        [–]TheRedWay 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        No one is perfect.

                        Oh really? I have one too! But if I wasn't gay, you would be mine

                        I'm not really into three ways, so he will have to watch

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                        [–]McCoop_ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                        "Let me know when you want a man friend."

                        Not mine and never tested, but I chuckled when I first heard it.

                        [–]getwoke 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I think it's funny too -- needs solid delivery and shouldn't be wasted on girls who give the rapid-fire "Ihaveaboyfriend!" rejection during daygame ( probably false half the time, just due to their discomfort with the entire interaction. )

                        [–]RichKingOfBangmar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        They're called boyfriend destroyers. I haven't a clue why the scene seems to have forgotten about them. I know some excellent ones that I will not share with you ;)

                        [–]our_guile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        "I have a boyfriend"

                        I don't care.

                        [–]slay_it_forward 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                        This is all Mystery Method

                        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                        Yea very PUA-ey. The attitude bullets were good though.

                        [–]All_Beans_August 3 points4 points  (2 children)

                        No, like, This is copy pasted from Mystery Method/Tyler Durden

                        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                        lol, yea I recognized it from The Game

                        [–]RobertCarraway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Lot of David D in there too.

                        [–]blackfin 15 points16 points  (12 children)

                        The boob touch is pretty subtle, never tried that. I usually ask for a high-five and then hold their hand a little longer than normal and see how they respond.

                        [–]trpthroway123 34 points35 points  (4 children)

                        I'm sure I'm not your target, but holding someone's hand after a hi-5 to judge how receptive they are to physical contact seems incredibly awkward.

                        Have you tried "sharing a secret"? Say "I want to tell you something". Lean in, hand on hip, pull them close, and whisper something random in their ear.

                        "My beer is empty" or "does your friend always laugh that loud?"

                        Doesn't matter what you say, what matters is how they react to you requesting their attention, touching them, getting close.

                        If she steps into you, proceed. If she leans in, proceed with caution. If she does neither, probably creeped out.

                        If she kisses you, call an uber and take her home.

                        [–]blackfin 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                        I typically use high fives in general, a lot. I don't hold their hand in mid air, I hold on as we're bringing our hands down and seeing if they pull away. I learned that through some PUA video (Mystery?) years ago and it's usually a good indicator for me. If they pull away quickly, they aren't that interested yet and I wait and push in other directions, such as when you're standing beside them bump them with the side of your hip with a grin and see if they bump back.

                        [–]trpthroway123 11 points12 points  (2 children)

                        I was picturing you giving an over the head hi-5 and then just holding their hand instead of slapping it, awkwardly standing there with your hands in the air and seeing what happens.

                        What you describe doesn't sound a whole lot less awkward. "This isn't what I signed up for" must be running through her head when a simple hi-5 turned into some eye gazing hand holding test.

                        I might just be getting old, but those "excuses" to touch, the "games" of bumping people, just aren't in my bag of tricks. I just do it, and do it in a way that can't be misconstrued as friendly. A hi-5 can be mistaken, a hand on the hip and a whisper in the ear can't.

                        [–]youcantdenythat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Awkward can be funny if you do it right. Embrace the awkward, laugh at it, it can be an endearing moment.

                        [–]blackfin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        You've made some really good points, I suppose some things in my approach aren't as overt as they should be leaving too much room for misinterpretation.

                        [–]KumonRoguing 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                        Boob touch is gold. This is a secret that even trp should have kept hidden away.

                        [–]Recon_by_Fire 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                        Then follow with a skill like a magic trick or analyze her handwriting.

                        [–]blackfin 11 points12 points  (3 children)

                        God no, the PUA material had some useful stuff in there... and some shit that bordered on gay.

                        [–]microwave44 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        remember the "chick crack" post? women don't care about what seems gay or not to dudes

                        [–]blackfin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                        Chicks might not care but I do. I'd rather not cave in on my frame to impress some girls using parlor tricks.

                        [–]microwave44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Indeed it's bad to use stuff that seem out of your style, but don't disregard or hamsterize these completely. Putting your ego above results never works well in my experience.

                        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        Been here a year and I had never seen this post. Very good field reference material for gaming babes. Thanks

                        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        Damn.... No more sending dick pics through Snapchat

                        [–]jzekyllandhyde 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                        There's something going around Facebook about approaching women on headphones and feminists are exploding

                        [–]microwave44 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        talking about this?

                        also get ready to be flamed for using fembook

                        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                        Is there a typo here? What is it supposed to say?

                        Don't wait to approach her until she's alone. Even if she likes you, her friends will soon drag her away.

                        Very good post, will keep some of this in mind going out at the end of the week.

                        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                        Don't wait until she's alone to approach her.

                        [–]Life_Disciple 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        I think he meant that if you wait until the girl is alone to talk to her, even if she likes you her friend group will come back for her soon. And like this post describes I'd much rather introduce myself to a group rather than tag along behind a girl into her group.

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                          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                          please explain mr music critic, and then post your passions and explain how they are objectively better

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                            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                            mate you legit suggested to grope and sexually assault a woman as a way of hitting on them youre fucking cringe and this subreddit is a meme

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                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              using a forum website to talk about techniques to do with my hobby and to discuss a popular tv show with a large following? i need rape tips?

                              [–]ShagrathBG 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                              Touching a boob is sexual assault now? Holy shit, where is this world going...

                              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                              groping a chick without consent is sexual assault, and its serious and shouldnt be experienced by anyone. this thread is actively advising people to use it as a means of flirting, this shit only works in the fucking mind of you people which think life is like a music video, if you grope a girls boob while whispering some corny phrase in her ear it will not make her want to sleep with you. you will be publicly embarrassed, called out, and possibly face charges. if you have the common sense to flirt with a girl without sexually assaulting her, youre definitely not taking advice from this thread. from what ive been reading, if some random gay dude came up and whispered shit in your ear while grabbing your dick, you guys would fuck the guy up. if you felt wronged and assaulted so would a girl.

                              [–]ShagrathBG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              This went really off topic. OP is talking about "unintentionally" brushing a boob, not raping left and right. Maybe it's because i'm not in the USA, but the worst i've gotten for intentionally grabbing a boob is a slap and people thinking it's funny. It makes the girl slightly uncomfortable at most. Being "publically embarrassed, called out and posibly facing charges" is ridiculous and i'm really sorry if it's the state of affairs at your place, that's not normal. About a gay dude grabbing my dick, it's happened and i was mad for about half a second, then laughed with my friends. 2/7, would not recommend, but i'm certainly not fucking a dude up for that, even though i'm rather homophobic.

                              [–]SudoAptGetMeASammich 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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                              What is this?

                              [–]PlantNutrient 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              I love it when RP veterans post specific examples of their teachings. It really helps create a mental image of the intentions of your posts. These are some good ideas, especially the aspect about approaching Groups

                              [–]fuckedupintentions 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              I know that this is a different situation than it is with a stranger but I used like three or four of the approaching advices on my ex immediately after I read this article and it worked so smoothly that I wondered if I turned on some cheat mode somehow.

                              [–]Redwolf915 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              tl;dr: Chicks dig confidence. :)

                              [–]Fly_Swim 5 points6 points  (15 children)

                              Center yourself around your crotch

                              Life is so hard w a smaller than average ding dong, please help me

                              [–]youcantdenythat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Not your shlong, your balls

                              [–]TheDialecticParadox 0 points1 point  (12 children)

                              Don't let your insecurities define you. Having a small dick isn't going to affect any aspect of your life except for sex and relationships.

                              [–]Fly_Swim 0 points1 point  (11 children)

                              thats a pretty large part of life? Isolation is the worst torture, and sex is 1/3 of life

                              [–]jzekyllandhyde 1 point2 points  (10 children)

                              Don't put sex on a pedestal and do penis enlargement exercises

                              [–]Fly_Swim 1 point2 points  (9 children)

                              probably the best advice I could possibly hear in this stage of my life, thank you, i knew to not put women on the pedestal, and after 30 years of sacrifice and smv building, i can have any broad, but still pedestalize sex

                              [–]jzekyllandhyde 0 points1 point  (8 children)

                              But honestly how small we talking

                              [–]Fly_Swim 0 points1 point  (7 children)

                              its all about the degree of affliction

                              i ask many women who i vet/soul read for honesty, they say 6 to 9 is good

                              mines closer to 5, 5 girth as well, not the 6plus they all prefer

                              so i just dont see how a guy could ever be 100% alpha if SMV is a factor bc the main red pill awakening for me was learning about the NEAR UNIVERSAL DISTASTE OF SMALLER THAN AVERAGE PENIS BY WOMEN

                              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Bro youre perfectly average not small. Get a grip.

                              [–]jzekyllandhyde 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                              Because It's synonymous with a lack of Masculinity. Own your micro and don't rely on it for her orgasm. Do BDSM and get her off in the other ways. Stop discussing it you know damn well women don't know what they want. There's a study that says having a big dick makes women more likely to cheat, with a smaller dick.

                              Which means, it doesn't matter.

                              [–]Fly_Swim 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                              synonymous with a lack of Masculinity. Own your micro

                              u think 5 is micro? u sure ur not trolling me? Will you please tell me your size? since there is only 1 unknowable fact for a heterosexual man, other mens erect penis size, i do want to know how i compare to my peers, please give me 1 sample size

                              [–]jzekyllandhyde 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                              If women see it as micro there's no minimum length. You could have a nine inch and women would complain it isn't thick enough. You could have a five inch long but a six inch girth would make it big. You can't have sex for the woman's pleasure you'll never succeed regardless of dick size. And mine is 2.5 inches longer but same girth. I use a ring to make it fatter.

                              [–]mehdreamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Average size. I am 15 cm(barely 6 inch)...never heard a girl complain about it...I guess a 7 would be perfect...but guess what..We can't have it all.

                              Same as for height. I am 5'11". Wish I was 6'+ but gotta work with what you have.

                              There are very few lucky bastard who got the full package in everything...life is unfair, we all know that..but not sure these perfect guys are fulfilled and happy in their life.

                              [–]NietzscheExplosion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Oh My God!

                              Do you just pick up women in a church?

                              [–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              i like to have a good laugh when i'm in the club so my openers are the most cringy, unfunny openers because it makes me and my friends laugh.

                              we thought of one where we would go up to the girl and yell GAMBOL ( in some accent) and move our hands like we are shoving all our chips in the middle of the table.

                              that one made us laugh for awhile.

                              i feel like things get stale if use.

                              " hey whats up" ( though i do like 75% of the time) or something to this effect.

                              [–]king_of_red_alphas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Above all, make sure you are in nimbus stage and approach from a 32 degree angle.

                              [–]HS-Thompson 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                              This isn't bad, but the PUA world is no longer a secret, some of this feels pretty dated, and people have heard this stuff before. Really obvious negs and really canned openers are probably not going to work except on the lowest value women, it's worth spending a little mental effort to come up with some new stuff.

                              With that said it's pretty much invariably better to do any of this stuff than to do nothing.

                              [–]SudoAptGetMeASammich 3 points4 points  (1 child)

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                              What is this?

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Great handle. So, you're into Red Pill and Red Hat?

                              <ducks>

                              j/k

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                              [–]thelaptopliquidator 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                              Slow movements Minimal smiling Hold your drink low

                              Any reasoning behind this?

                              What's wrong with smiling? Women like happy men. They're fun to be around.

                              Slow movements? You're not being pulled over by a cop.

                              Hold my drink low? I don't mind fights, but I sure don't pick them, and you're asking for it, after some dude inevitably bumps into you and spills your drink.

                              Also those lines are terrible.

                              "> “You’re not trying to cut in front of me are you? Because I’m pretty tough”

                              Best case scenario? She thinks you're an idiot with 0 sense of humor, because that's not even a little funny.

                              Worst case? She thinks you're an edgelord

                              "Oh my god, you’re the fourth [her name] I’ve met today!”"

                              Really bad. Just like how stupid guys love to brag about how smart they are, and guys with tiny dicks love to talk about how hung they are, she's going to assume you don't know any women.

                              Like dude, trying, way, way, too hard. Have you bothered to use any of these? Because I feel like the natural response is 'Cool, go talk to the other 3 [Insert names] then!'- it's just too easy and it pops right in your head, she'll spit it out before she even thinks.

                              Even "Sup baby" is gonna work better than these...

                              [–]youcantdenythat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Yeah, you have to be a little attractive before these will work.

                              [–]Yankee_Fever 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              It's not what you say, it's how you say it

                              [–]Answers_with_lead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              The body attitude can not be stated enough. Especially the not fidgeting part.

                              [–]billsmashole 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                              I like this but what is contraposto and how do I center myself around my crotch?

                              [–]marianasentmenudes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              You center yourself around your crotch by your hand movements and body language. If your language and hands are mostly in your chest-area and head, she will seldomly think of your dick.

                              On the other hand if your hands enjoyed movement in the crotch-area, as well as obvious body language that makes it move, the chick will get more sexual ideas about you

                              [–]youcantdenythat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                              Imagine your groin is the center of the universe

                              [–]billsmashole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              That should be easy, thanks

                              [–]enkae7317 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                              Here's a good one I used before if they're a student.

                              "Isn't tonight a school night?"

                              And go off from there. I usually add "you guys are bad girls for staying up so late"

                              or "i'm telling your parents"

                              Be imaginative.

                              [–]enkae7317 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              If you run into her again "wow, are you stalking me?"

                              If she has a nice purse, "hey nice bag, do you have a gun in there or something?"

                              I got a couple more but yeah, canned material is nice and all but use them sparingly.

                              [–]RedDeadCred 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                              The first section was spot on, but a lot of your advice for openers and not touching is debateable. It's a form of screening for dtf chick's to be sexual open and aggressive.

                              [–]stawek -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                              This is advice for great looking guys.

                              They know there is a girl waiting for their dick, so they can screen chicks to find her out quickly and not worry about scaring away those who just aren't sure yet (or just aren't as slutty).

                              Your average Joe can't do it. Sure, it is great for screening, but without looks he will discard all chicks. There is very little chance a chick is immediately dtf with a plain looking guy.

                              Every advice is only as good as it is applicable. Chad behaviour will not necessarily work for non-Chads.

                              [–]RedDeadCred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              There's no other way that it will be worth it. You are so much better off spending that energy on your appearance than trying to convince a chick that isn't automatically attracted to you to fuck you.

                              Your average Joe will always be without pussy.

                              [–]Nergaal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                              Two quick questions:

                              *what do you recommend to do with your hands if the reflex is to hang them into the pockets?

                              *what is with the holding your drink low? why does it work?

                              [–]HiGuysiamkewl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Impatient outward glances

                              Can someone explain this one to me?

                              [–]SocialJusticeWhiner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              /u/Masteron_The_Don thanks for reposting! Great write up. I have a question though.

                              No hands in pockets

                              I read that putting your thumb in your pocket with your fingers pointing towards your dick is considered confident body language. Always feels weird to me though. Thoughts? What do you do with your hands?

                              [–]Roelor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              ALL I know about picking up girls rely on me being a foreigner. I'm never going back.

                              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              NOT opening a girl means you are a selfish dick who wants to retain all the awesomeness in your life for just yourself.

                              Today in a coffee shop there was a girl who came in and sat across the table from me. I was prepping for a phone call so I ignored her and took the call. After the call I did my own thing for a bit, was too pussy to say hi right away so kept doing my own thing because "too long" had gone by and nothing happened worth talking about. She started covering her face and buried herself in her phone.

                              I remembered this tip as I was packing up my stuff and said hi to her, as she was about to be at a table alone with an empty coffee and a phone. She wasn't immediately receptive and didn't really realize I was talking to her at first (I talk softly, gotta work on that too). Then I said hi again and just asked what she was doing, and we talked for like 20 minutes and I made a plan to hang out and got her number and we walked 1/2 a block together. She'd probably have come to my place with me but I noticed a wedding ring and didn't lead her there, sent her on her way at the corner.

                              "Don't be a selfish dick" and not open her is great advice and I remembered reading it here 2 weeks ago, because in the mindset of "I am the prize" it made total sense. I've tried to remember to do it since but this is the first time I've put it into action. I shared my light with that chick for a minute and she loved it even thought she didn't seem to immediately. Solid eye contact and she offered kino at the end and follow up texted me, ez. Thanks OP, all the stuff was good but this one is gold.

                              [–]ecosci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Hey its not that serious dude all a man needs is options outside of the women in many forms including hobbies, jobs,friends, sports and family dont waste this much energy on females because all situations are different and her emotions change rapidly your list is like telling a boxer to bob and weave up down and jab it works everytime until hes in the ring with a young mike tyson and lights out what just happen to me you need to learn female nature before posting man an true alpha with game will never post this much info.

                              [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Good post. What boys need to do is just get their feet wet and just talk to everyone and be themselves. You don't know what will happen!

                              [–]madethewrongmistake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Guys, seriously, how much time and money do we have to waste in bars before we realize that becoming a PUA is quite possibly the least efficient path to success with women, possibly right after becoming a male feminist (but I'm not sure)?

                              You'd do better in less time with zero game and a part-time job at Starbucks.

                              [–]aherne18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                              Don't touch or grab her right away. If she touches you say, with a smile, "Hey now, hands off the merchandise"

                              Why? Right in my "good days" I simply picked the weakest target that is attractive enough, approached and started dominating right away with sex as sole goal. It worked! Even more so, it awards you chad treatment for the rest of the night.

                              [–]redpillnexus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                              These are the best openers I've ever read. Please post more.