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"We think it's fair to say that every married gal gets a little antsy on occasion". So begins this Yahoo News article that is chock-full of redpill truths. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by needsomehelp3211

Summary: Branch swinging is embedded in the female DNA. There's no getting rid of it. Even if she marries you, the hypergamy reins supreme and she will always, ALWAYS be looking for a better man.

Full article here.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry after reading this article, which first caught my eye on Yahoo News' frontpage. Laugh because it proves every damn thing we say on TRP, or cry because society has devolved to the point where female hypergamy is just seen as a cutsey little thing that men have to shrug, accept and live with. An article celebrating cheating and hypergamy on the front page, for Christ's sake. Anyway, I digress. Let's dissect it...

We think it's fair to say that every married gal gets a little antsy on occasion and Robin Rinaldi, author The Wild Oats Project, is no exception. But unlike those of us who simply wonder what it would be like to take a break from our husbands — Rachel and Ross style — Rinaldi actually acted on it.

After being hitched to her spouse, Scott Mansfield, for 18 years, she made the critical decision to enter into a year-long open marriage so that she could experience life (and by life we mean sex) with other people.

And by open marriage, I assume you mean banging Chads around the world while hubby gets to stay home and water the lawn and cook dinner. Is my assumption correct? Let's read on.

Rinaldi, 51, who lives in San Francisco, says that she and Mansfield, a brewer and wine-maker, were "stuck in a rut." She told the New York Post, "Our once-a-week sex life was loving, but lacked spontaneity and passion."

I.e. life with a beta. The woman will sigh and spread her legs out for him once a week or so just because its her wifely duty, but beta males don't arouse any passion or excitement. Women love uncertainty. They love danger. A doting husband is the opposite of that.

But, unimaginative sex isn't what convinced Rinaldi to try her experiment, and ultimately write a book about it. She says that she finally reached a breaking point in her early thirties when she realized that despite years of pleading, Mansfield would never be willing to have a child with her.

She wrote in The Wild Oats Project, "I refuse to go to my grave with no children and only four lovers ... If I can't have one, I must have the other."

She had her beta husband but couldn't put the ultimate lockdown on him - kids. Growing frustrated, she realized that she had made a huge mistake settling for this subpar male while her body was going baby-crazy and needed an alpha to impregnate her.

"I reached a point that a lot of us face in midlife where I was about to have an affair. I knew I was going to cheat, or we were going to get a divorce and something had to change. And I figured if I was going to do it, I was going to be fair and give him the freedom. I knew it was a long shot," she explains.

Bolded emphasis mine. Observe the brutally honest female, admitting that all of her girlfriends have thought the same thing. It's almost refreshing that this woman is so open about the fact that women cheat and lie. Usually the feminist-types try to hide this fact.

And now for the terms: Rinaldi rented an apartment where she lived from Monday through Friday. There she was allowed to court as many suitors as she liked. On the weekends, she returned to her husband and they lived like a happily married couple without asking each other what or who they did during the week.

"It wasn't as strange as you might imagine. I liked it. It was the perfect balance, living on my own during the week and then returning home," she writes. "We had sex as always and the open marriage spiced things up — at least at first."

The few conditions were that they had to practice safe sex, could't sleep with mutual friends, and had to avoid "serious" relationships. Perfectly reasonable clauses, though they were all violated.

Rinaldi, who had been off the market for awhile, began her exploits by posting an ad on nerve.com. Within one day, she had 23 offers.

Her first paramour was a 40-year-old lawyer but she quickly moved on to younger men. She recalls texting her hubby goodnight from a Las Vegas hotel room immediately after a 23-year-old guy left her bed.

Over all, she had 12 encounters. Two were with women, one of them was a threesome.

After her trial year of condoned dalliances was up, however, Rinaldi and her husband struggled to make their marriage work. "Moving back home full time proved more difficult than I had thought. After you open up a marriage and experience a whole range of sexual variety and aspects of yourself you've never had before, it's hard to put everything back in the box. You're changed."

"Suddenly I found an updated version of myself. The person I was at 44 was so much different than the woman I'd been when I was last single at 26. She was less shy, more confident, wilder."

Mansfield, had changed too. For nearly six months he had been exclusively seeing one woman, who happened to be younger than Rinaldi but she says that didn't bother her.

Okay, let's take a breather and compare the two. The woman slept with 12 other people. The husband slept with 1. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT REDPILL LESSON ON THIS THREAD. Women always have more options than men in the dating world, so an open marriage is inherently skewed. By agreeing to one, you're agreeing to a built-in handicap.

She wrote: 'The turning point was hearing from Alden [one of the men she had slept with]. He sent me an e-mail, out of the blue, several months after the project had come to an end. Before long, we were having sex again. Being with him was exquisite. After reconnecting with Alden and falling deeply in love with him, there was no going back."

Robin says she's grateful for the experience of being married to Mansfield. "But for now," she continues, "For for this part of my life, I believe being with someone who is the most temperamentally like me is where I can learn more."

I'm just gonna let this article sink in without any more analysis. Put simply, if you read this article and haven't decided to reject the concept of marriage, you are stupid. There is no benefit - none - for men that outweighs the risks. If your wife of 20 years one day decides she needs fresh cock, she can coerce you into an open marriage, sleep with 12 guys in Vegas, and then divorce your ass while leaving you with nothing but empty memories and half your wealth. How can you look in the mirror and call yourself a man after that?

You get only one life. Do not waste it legally shackled to a female. Hypergamy and branch swinging is too powerful for men to control.

TL:DR Don't get married, thanks.


[–]needsomehelp3211[S] 254 points255 points  (20 children)

Another RedPill truth I forgot to include in the OP: the way that society and media is biased against men.

Imagine an article that started with "We think it's fair to say that every married man gets a little antsy on occasion". And then approvingly detailed the exploits of a guy who left his dumpy 40-year-old wife to party and bang college coeds in Tijuana.

First of all, no respected news outlet would write such an article because while women cheating is celebrated, men cheating is condemned as the most evil thing ever. And secondly, if someone did publish such an article, there would be a shitstorm so fierce that it would make Sodom and Gomorrah look like a picnic. Anti-misogyny hashtags would fill up on Twitter. The Daily Show would be railing against patriarchy and sexism. Women would be hissing "ugh, men are such pigs". Hillary Clinton would release a statement condemning the article.

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[–]Countpudyoola 55 points56 points  (3 children)

18 is a magical number in some states that guarantees alimony for life. Gee, I wonder why she picked 18 years.

[–]GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Wow, good observation. That makes the story that much more sinister.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm telling you guys. Women are way smarter and cunning than men think they are. They just know how to hide it.

[–]Ray_817 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They are the masters at all forms of deception, physically, emotionally, and now economically.

Physically-

There are multiple billion dollar industries that are targeted at falsely improving their self image, for god sakes women won't leave the house with putting on a mask(make up). You may be thinking well they are just trying to look their best, may be true, but still it is a form of deception/false advertising.

Emotionally -

They have been honing this skill since they were young, they are masters of emotional manipulation. They say one thing do another, classic.

Economically -

Laws are now skewed to support the first two deceptions they implement, basically solidifying their leg up on the opposite sex.

Basically women hold all the cards, have all the tools, and an unbridled desire to get what they want when they want it. Honestly they have slowly beaten the majority of men at the game of life and now have laws to back them up at any change of their desire. It's a woman's world, you can't hate them for taking advantage of all the tools they can implement, you just need to understand all that they are able to get away with and be wary, because we all know they hold the upper hand, to them morality is subjective.

[–]vagbutters 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You guys need to realize that all this crap is produced for a female audience because they're the ones who eat this crap up. Women control the consumer dollars in the USA which means they're mostly marketed to.

Bingo. Most of the media we consume on these matters is catered towards women. Cut the bullshit and focus your mind on shit that matters.

[–]obama_loves_nsa 26 points27 points  (5 children)

At least the guy is free now. Holy fuck what a fucked up story.

If I had to lose half my money though for this whore I'd move to another country. The USA isn't that important. No way I could give half my money to such a fucking whore. I'd rather slit her throat or mine.

[–]jcadsexfree 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think the final joke is on her. The guy refused to give her a child, perhaps because he saw her as an inadequate mother. Lack of children impacts on her emotional being and also the social status of middle aged childless women does not compare to that of middle aged mothers. Plus, he never will have the responsibility of child support, leaving him free to do whatever hobbies he likes.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And further, as a business owner he is, he probably cares more for his hobbies anyways. I think he probably won in the end simply due to the implication that he was able to pin down a marriage material woman for that long without committing to children. In the end he traded her in for a newer model and kept his shit and lifestyle. We should all aspire to such mad scientist status.

[–]knightSwolaire 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Always wondered if that was an option instead of showing up to the divorce rape proceedings

[–]marplaneit 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yes, it is an option. You gotta be kick though.

Sell everything you have at your name. Move that shit to a swiss bank, start your new life whenever you want.

You won't be able to go back to USA though.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or you can take the money out, loose track of them somehow, then divorce. Loosing track is tricky, but not impossible. Buy bitcoin, buy gold and bury it, make untraceble aquisitions etc. If you run you're own company, make your salary 1$, transfer your assets to it (car, house etc.), and give away shares to people you trust (brother/sister/mom/dad/buddy) etc. If you're smart and start all this gradually a few years before the divorce she'll end up with shit.

[–]askmrcia 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right. I remember in high school (2008) when I occasionally watch the news during dinner, the news was always showing stories on trendy teen things. Like why are all teens wearing such and such, what does it mean when your teen text this, is your teen sexting, New drugs for teens, ect..

For the longest I always wondered why the hell do they report on that shit. Most teens don't even watch the news so who cares? As I got older I realized they were marketing towards women. Women from their early tweens to their 40s (maybe even older) are still stuck in teenage years. It's the same with social media and why on yahoo I always see some article on the front page talking about how Twitter users react to something.

In fact 90% of yahoo news is geared towards women with celebrity gossip, social media users, and fashion. The other 10% is sports with an occasional business story here and there.

[–]1RXRob 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I'm tempted to write such an article, based on the experiences of some married friends.

[–]stoicismexpress 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Please do, the shit storm will be entertaining

[–]madethewrongmistake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a pretty good collection of them on deadbedrooms, guys that finally GTFO.

[–]Mike377774774 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Men can be so much more than women. How the fuck did it end up like this? Jesus christ. They only have all this power because some of us gave them.

[–]etherael 17 points18 points  (0 children)

And then approvingly detailed the exploits of a guy who left his dumpy 40-year-old wife to party and bang college coeds in Tijuana.

I live in Thailand, I see men like this all the time. They are rarely spoken of at all in the west, but when they are it is with the most bitter and venomous spite you can possibly imagine. And you're dead right, what this woman did is exactly what these guys did.

The difference is precisely that in one case the action is broadcast from the rooftops as empowering and beautiful, and in the other case it is swept hastily under the rug, and any whispers regarding it are vehemently shouted down and made a target of a customary fifteen minutes of hate.

Disclaimer; I don't give a fuck one way or another, people will do what they do, men or women, celebrating or castigating them will in the end make no difference at all, the double standard is just amusing.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho 202 points203 points  (23 children)

I saw this coming within my first year of marriage. Suddenly the bedroom was dead, spontaneity was dead and I had to do through a complete voodoo ritual to even try to get her in the mood. At some point she dropped the "let's open the relationship" bomb. I get it, she was stunning and I wasn't, but I was a good provider. She was getting a lot of male attention and opening the relationship would mean she would bang 10 guys for every girl I could bang.

My answer at that very moment: "let's call a lawyer and sign the divorce papers next week". She pulled back. I didn't. Still went ahead and divorced her some months after.

Marriage. Not even once.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 23 points24 points  (4 children)

My answer at that very moment: "let's call a lawyer and sign the divorce papers next week". She pulled back. I didn't. Still went ahead and divorced her some months after.

Hope every noob on here sees this and takes it serious. So many men in LTR's and marriages see the writing on the wall and just wait for the inevitable. Why the fuck would you do that?

Once you see the writing on the wall, save your dignity and YOU end that shit. You walk away. You leave on your terms. You crush her ego. You leave the permanent mark. You are the man, act like it. Why would you wait around to be cucked, dumped, and heartbroken, AND give her the satisfaction that she dumped you, so she can tell all of your mutual friends and every woman in earshot.

This was probably the hardest thing /u/Pastelitomaracucho did, but it was also one of the most justified. His wife obviously did not care for him, only herself. She was shocked by his response. Why? Attractive western females do not know what being dumped is like. It probably shocked her. It probably turned her head upside down. It probably made her second guess everything in her life. But too late. Pandora's box was open and it was time to GTFO, save your dignity, and see the world for all that it is.

You're allowed to break things off with a girl, fellas. You don't have to wait for things to go to absolute shit and then post on ask trp what you can do to fix it after you find out she's cheating.

There are billions of women in the world, and there are - contrary to popular belief - lots of them who are worth your time. Why waste yours on someone who isn't?

[–]Sdom1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It probably shocked her. It probably turned her head upside down.

It made her wet. What she didn't understand was there's no takebacks with something like that.

[–]SephRP 1 points1 points [recovered]

I just broke up with 5 year LTR (I ended it) after she was acting "sketchy" and I am so glad I came across this. Whilst I don't think she actually cheated, I know she was at least looking to. We are meeting up tomorrow (I didn't want to but she still has some of my shit that I would like back so I agreed to it) and I am 99% sure she is going to try to "fix" things. (Get her Beta Bux back).

I am glad I read this before I see her again, had I not been on TRP the last year or so, I absolutely would have gotten back with her against my better judgement. (Although I probably would have ended up cucked and never knowing in the first place.)

Thank you.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hold strong tomorrow. If it truly can be fixed, huge her time to think about it and evaluate her actions, don't cave Tomo.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 55 points56 points  (5 children)

Within your first year. God fucking damn it. She must have known before the wedding that she was going to try that. Well done for actually ending it as many try holding on and fixing things when its unsalvageable.

[–]grimreaperx2 32 points32 points [recovered]

Take a pause there shit lord, the guy here is at fault. She gave him a way to save the relationship by opening it up for more possibilities and he just shut her down. He wasn't man enough to handle her. Check your privlage.

Edit: /s (In case it wasn't apparent.)

[–]dropabitch 8 points9 points  (0 children)

actually can't believe ppl talk like that irl

[–]EGOtyst 2 points2 points [recovered]

Woah, wait, what? You are joking, right?

[–]graffix13 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, pretty sure he's being sarcastic.

[–]1EarthExile 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Strong response. Good for you. I hope you didn't get wallet raped too badly

[–]Battle-Scars 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably not since they were only married a year.

[–]BusterVadge 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Congrats on having the balls to go through with it. 90% of men don't!

[–]Polishrifle 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Damn dude. I've been on the fence for awhile about marriage, but seeing shit like this really pushes me in the 'No' camp.

[–]kagetsuki23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how long have you dated her before marrying her?

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

did you end up having to give her money or did you avoid that cuz it was just one year?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She was getting a lot of male attention and opening the relationship would mean she would bang 10 guys for every girl I could bang.

I see dudes doing this a lot. They pay no mind to the social circle that she is getting all of this attention from or the social circle they found her in. The quality and quantity of people you hang out with will provide plenty of red flags for this shit pre-marriage. It's like some dudes just marry any sexually healthy/available chick that wants to "live it up" and "be amazing" all over town and wonder why she fucks away the relationship. It was doomed from the start. Her habits will indicate if she craves attention and validation to an unhealthy degree. You just have to look for it. Hard to do when young I know.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guy that followed me in a former job position was a former prison guard. Married a prisoner, a hottie. Same thing happened to him.

[–]HAMMURABl 153 points154 points  (20 children)

If you are in a relationship and your partner unironically suggests an open relationship - dump her immediately without asking further questions.

The relationship is effectively already over at that point.

[–]GrowlingBears 74 points75 points  (10 children)

Or if she suggests a break, it's the same thing. The only thing you'll get out of it is warts or herpes.

[–]maddox45 47 points48 points  (6 children)

"We need a break" translates to = "I have a chad on the side I want to fuck".

[–]GrowlingBears 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Yep, every time. You're just leasing the pussy and the term is up.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 15 points16 points  (4 children)

When my girlfriend asked for a break, I agreed. A week or so later when she called me, I actually thought she was going to apologize and tell me she wanted to get back together. Yeah right.

Usually I find my naivety hilarious in hindsight, but this one still stings looking back.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Give it another five to ten years and/or as many girls then it will be amusing. No more sting after enough pussy juice from multiple sluts washes your ballsack.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 5 points6 points  (1 child)

For the most part you're right. Years of self-improvement will teach you to laugh at your mistakes, but it's tough for me not to have the occasional sad moment of reflection when there's literally decades of source material.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have decades of shit to regret too. Lots to be pissed about as well. What's the point of getting pissed or regretful? Can't change it, learn and laugh.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's ok. We still think it's funny.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

My ex's crazy bff would cause a fight and temporarily break up with her SO every time a new guy came along she wanted to fuck. Happened every few months like clockwork.

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Such women become conditioned to employ the dual mating strategy. At first glance, most women will believe that it is possible to find the guy who is a unicorn, but overtime, they begin to realize that guys that make good boyfriends are often not very attractive, and guys that make good lovers are not likely to commit.

The only winners in this are the non-committal guys and to a lesser extent the women. Any guy caught in a relationship is doomed like the one in OP's post.

[–]rp-one 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I love how these chicks try to hamster and trickle truth their way out of marriage.

When a girl hints at wanting to be with other guys, be a gentleman and oblige her with a hard next.

[–]bornredd 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I had an open relationship in my youth and it was a grand time. She helped me meet other women and we'd fuck around a few times a week.

Granted, there was no pretension of long term commitment or marriage involved, just FWBs that were into multiple partners.

[–]stoicismexpress 5 points6 points  (3 children)

FWBs at a young age are the shit, I'm guessing it sucks more as you get older

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Depends. I can pull got young ass easily, they like the gray hair I think. The voice and muscle helps I'm sure. I'd rather live alone and have a few girls that come by and fuck me, or I spend a weekend with them like I did this last one. They know I live alone by choice, and attempts to move in are met with amusement. I get interest from teens to 60s, I'm 47 and for me life is good.

If you're a fat slob, or a desperate old bald fuck clinging to his ring of hair with comb overs, and trying to act like a kid, buy a harley or vette in an attempt to get laid, life will suck ass.

[–]electricqueer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do you mean trying to act like a kid? Like pretending they are younger?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dressing like a teenager, or trying to act the way teens do. Nothing more pathetic than an old guy trying to act like he is 19. Fucking own it, when you're my age you should have done shit that a kid never could, seen things most never do, been places kids can't go. At experienced and confident. Trying to act young is the epitome of desperately trying to get people to like you. They have to earn my friendship, not the other way around.

[–]legendran 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. There is no point on trying to resurrect it. The moment she says it, it's game over. It will not leave her head.

[–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Woman's value is her pussy, man's value is his commitment. When she asks for open relationship she effectively asks to give out her pussy to other man while at the same time keeping all of your commitment.

If I was at the position of this man I would say "sure why not". The first weekend when she returns home she would find another woman in "her" bed and I would ask for a divorce because "I had found the woman that makes me happy".

Forget all that Hollywood movies had taught you about futility of revenge. Revenge is a sweet sweet satisfying thing that simply catapults you over the anger phase.

[–]hahayeahthatscool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why does everyone on trp cuff? Bitches are going to do what bitches want to do, just like any adult.

[–][deleted] 95 points96 points  (24 children)

I like how they imply that the decision afterwards to end the marriage was mutual or maybe even her decision, it wasn't he left her.

I also like the part where she admits that after fully indulging in the CC she couldn't just come back and be a housewife. It changed her, just as it indelibly changes all women.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (4 children)

And only 12 sexual partners for the whole year? She could have actually gone through many more but chose a more normal number so as to not offend her husband and come accross as a raging slut to the article readers.

[–]Moerty 58 points59 points  (3 children)

she's admitting to 12, rule of 3 says it's closer to 40.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I'd say thats a low-ball figure for someone who has recently left a marriage to fuck people and is also about to hit the wall

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd say thats a low-ball figure for someone who has recently left a marriage to fuck people and is also about to hit the wall

The wall would have been hit head first by 44 bro. That's 10 years post wall.

[–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She was mid 40's. She probably expected the quality of options she had at 26, then got hit in the head with reality. Her standards were probably much higher than her SMV.

But yeah, she probably lied.

[–]melb22 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, she explains this pretty well. Maybe that's why women used to be sorted into the marrying kind or else the promiscuous kind. I note too that she became jaded with the "sex for adventures" lifestyle, and is now looking for fulfillment via creativity. Like too many women, she seems to have expected too much from marriage, as if it could, by itself, fulfill her in every way.

[–]TheReformist94 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women need sexual variety like men,are just as polygamous,however in a hypergamic manner.they get fed up of the same cock,whether the guy is alpha or beta. There is enough evidence on this sub that women struggle more with monogamy than men. There are many men with options that choose to stay monogamous.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho 6 points7 points  (16 children)

Honestly I don't blame her. I know what it is to indulge in the pleasures of life. It's amazing.

The problem is not hypergamy, female sexuality, cheating, etc. The problem is the horrible double standards...

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 54 points55 points  (15 children)

The problem is the horrible double standards...

Not quite.

There is no way to fix these double standards socially. Double standards exist because men and women are different. They are a social consequence of our physical biology.

The answer is not to cry foul when women capitalize on their power. The answer is to learn how to capitalize on your own.

Remember: you don't need women, but women need you. That is why your time, effort, and give-a-fucks are so valuable.

[–]Pastelitomaracucho 12 points13 points  (6 children)

This is something we need to explain over and over to the drove of angry and frustrated men in this sub.

[–]TheReformist94 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Women need variety as much as men.they only need resource commimtnet,not actual emotional/mental commitment.if they have a job monogamy is just a burden. Monogamy is more of a burden to women than men.they don't have paternity uncertainty,so why wouldn't she want to keep her marriage? One thing trp gets incredibly wrong is that men are the gateholders of commitment. Its FINANCIAL commitment.this is fungible,and can be extracted from many men,not just one.which is why women accept drinks on nights out and have resource harems.

Men ON AGGREGATE are the gatekeepers of commitment.not on an individual level. Women own the deck.its stacked against men.good luck walking away.she'll get 20cocks in a day and get cuck some betas

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think I agree about commitment. After all, it's the man who puts a ring on a woman to signify that she's taken. He has to ask her for her commitment and she wears a ring to signify she's taken. The woman doesn't traditionally ask for marriage and she doesn't give a ring to the man to signify he's taken.

With parental uncertainty female commitment is more valuable than male commitment. Women can always use there pussy to obtain resources from another man or get what she needs from friends and family, and now the state. Their has always been a social safety net for women. She doesn't really need your commitment as much as you need hers. What she wants the most is social status and good quality sperm.

I think you're right, women are the gatekeepers of sex AND commitment. The only power men have is the ability to not give a fuck and walk away. Which is easier said than done.

side note: saw a woman hiking alone in the woods today with a baby in a backpack while I was mt biking. I've seen bears on that very trail. Women in our society are oblivious to the realities of danger. Wouldn't surprise me if she was a single mom, strong and independent right up until her child gets eaten by a bear.

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (3 children)

And now for the terms: Rinaldi rented an apartment where she lived from Monday through Friday. There she was allowed to court as many suitors as she liked.

Who paid for the apartment? Everyone here can take a wild guess and find out they are right. Let me try: the provider husband!

[–]midnightrequest 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'm going to be honest, I don't even feel sorry for this guy. It was so obvious that the whole relationship was fucked that he didn't even need TRP or any other outside advice to realize it. Common sense would suffice.

[–]scarletspider3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is why we can't get married. That way if she tried that shit you could just change the locks on her.

[–]mightythickdick 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Judging by the looks of her, there are some terribly desperate men out there.

[–]omar_coming_yo_ 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Second that....

She's fucking beat..

[–]marplaneit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think she is that ugly for a woman of her age.

But c'mon if you are >40 you shouldn't be fucking that.

[–]joeyjojosharknado 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Always have been, but I think it's reached a crescendo lately. Online dating and validation has pushed women's perceived values into the stratosphere. And on top of this the feminisation of society has promoted 'cougars', cuckolding, etc as positive things. Have a look on the main subs of Reddit to see how a) thirsty millennial men are, and b) fashionable it is for them to be attracted to dried out old crones. They don't even realise that they're willingly making themselves obsolete, in a social and evolutionary sense.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She looks better than about 70% of over 40 USA sluts. She only wins vs fat young girls. A warm moist place to jack off doesn't have to be great looking, it only needs to be available.

I wouldn't approach her, mostly I ignore the old ones or just make them think I'm interested as I use them for preselection with the young girls. My main is 44, but she looks good, is kinky as fuck in bed (old chicks love anal and multiple orgasms) has her own money and lives 7 hours away. She makes up for the years by being tons of fun. It's the longest time I've fucked someone close to my age in the last 25 years. She earns it, if she didn't I'd find a replacement.

[–]Battle-Scars 41 points42 points  (4 children)

Saw this article about a year ago, she gets some online site to roll this out when book sales are low. A classic cringe worthy story.

This is my favorite part: The few conditions were that they had to practice safe sex, could't sleep with mutual friends, and had to avoid "serious" relationships. Perfectly reasonable clauses, though they were all violated.

[–]rp_newdawn 46 points47 points  (2 children)

This is even more remarkable when you consider the husband had one partner... Which means guess who violated all the rules?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Well, he violated the avoiding serious relationships. She must've violated the rest.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps his lover was merely a friend with benefits?

I've got one. She just turned 24, we chat regularly,have sex when is convenient to our schedules,but otherwise carry on as friends.

[–]Jani1157 4 points5 points  (0 children)

From my past experience, rules like these are almost certain to be broken by women. That whole talking about it, is just to make the guy feel better

[–]InChargeMan 39 points40 points  (5 children)

EXPERIMENT!!!

ROFL... Imagine if a dude proposed that he bang a bunch of chicks as an experiment.

EDIT: Just realized that she implied if he were to have kids with her she wouldn't have boarded the CC. Is this whole "experiment" article a hidden message of "comply with BP or else"? As if she wouldn't have hit the CC anyway after having kids. Yeah right...

[–]Conceited-Monkey 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I had read he had never wanted kids and had been clear about this from the outset of the relationship. She married him and figured she could change his mind.

[–]inquiringmindswould 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I think the OP made the mistake of being drawn into the author's frame.

He labels the husband like a typical "beta", but he was getting weekly sex 18 years into a relationship. She claims it was "boring" and "uninspiring", but that reads as revisionist to me. That quantity is beyond duty sex of birthday, anniversary, and a tugjob at Christmas. Yes, he was wrong to agree to the opening of the relationship, but she ended up breaking all the rules. She knew she was going to cheat on him. She wanted children with him even though he was clear he didn't want them, eventually getting a vasectomy. When he denied her that permanently, she sought the only revenge she could- cuckolding him.

This is a vengeance tale.

[–]Jani1157 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I caught that kid thing too, dude must have realized (if he wanted kids) that she wasn't a quality woman to have them with.

[–]Scymnus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She's just rationalizing why she needed to go out and fuck someone else. There's no hidden message or female conspiracy, just female biology.

[–]InChargeMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, the entire article was rationalizing. Look into hampstering.

[–]RedSuns_ 31 points31 points [recovered]

I always get this feeling that western civilization is fucked when I read these but something keeps telling me to see it through.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Women try to make being sluts sound technical, cool, and life-exploring. Hell she says it in the beginning. She "wants to have a life".

Having a life for a woman = fucking lots of strange dick

They're pathetic.

Then this slut-festTM is labeled an "experiment". What experiment sweetie? How many cocks can you fit in your ass? What's the biggest dick you can take without crying like a little bitch?

[–]Squeezymypenisy 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Didn't it say the husband was still with the other woman? Who was younger? Sounds like he simply upgraded from an old woman to a new.

[–]archwolfg 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Great point, everyone is focusing on the dude not getting with more women, but he didn't want that.

The dude wanted a committed women, so he left this garbage chick for a younger version that hasn't been "jaded" by "freedom".

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I traded in my ex's for younger girls every time. Better looking and young, it's not hard to do. What do they get? A loser who is desperate to have a post wall tramp, because that is exactly what they are. I had them from 20 to 30, the other guys can have the worn out snatches and saggy tits.

Honestly only one is required for me to be satisfied. I'll fuck others if the opportunity arises, but if I find a decent one who does it for me, I'm good. Always looking even if I'm not doing business. Usually I have three to ten, but one reliable hole that brings no drama will do the job.

[–]inquiringmindswould 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP assumes that quality < quantity.

Husband didn't want to open it up. He felt it was blackmail. He should have ended it there & then, but indulged her- wrongly, I believe.

[–]Spoopsnloops 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was also smart enough not to have kids with ol gang bang wife.

[–]maxrp 22 points22 points [recovered]

Mansfield, had changed too. For nearly six months he had been exclusively seeing one woman, who happened to be younger than Rinaldi but she says that didn't bother her.

He's an idiot for not divorcing his saggy wife vagina as soon as she slept with the first guy, and said he was shocked she actually went through with it. Then he would be FREEEEEEEE!!

Free to meet a girl with better morals & judgement, and let that cheating sack of shit go fuck toyboys that pump and dump her until she realizes she lost the rarest best thing in the world........A committed loving MAN whos better than all her toyboys combined.

[–]Pragmaticpandas 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Let's not glorify the husband here. He was essentially the definition of a beta cuck.

[–]scarletspider3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is that women feel that they're a hundred other beta's around the corner just waiting to save them. Therefore they don't value them until it's too late. Luckily I'm starting to see a lot of the hoes I grew up with left standing. Hopefully they'll serve as a warning to the next generation.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Depends on the state, as well as the judge. In both states I was divorced in, the cheating did not matter. Anything bad the girls did was irrelevant, anything they accused me of was treated like written in stone and verified by video and the hand of God himself despite evidence to the contrary or none at all.

Doesn't matter in most states, he is always guilty she is always the innocent victim and that's how it is. Accept it and never marry for any reason.

[–]maxrp 1 points1 points [recovered]

or move to a non cuck state.

[–]1jb_trp 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I have a plate who is in an open relationship with her husband. They're both around 35 and decent looking. They have two young kids. Two things about the situation:

  • The open relationship came about because the wife wanted to cheat. She already had a guy in mind.
  • The husband quickly got a 22 year old girlfriend. The wife is seeing a counselor now because of this. Nuclear dread, and I guess she fucks him on the regular.

[–]d0lphinsex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The husband quickly got a 22 year old girlfriend.

My boy!

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Jesus, what a fucking beta for going along with this... If my girl suggested that to me, it would potentially result in a hard next. Trouble is when you're married it gets difficult to get rid of them since your lives are so entertwined. What happened to the good old days eh?

Agreed with the OP, don't get married...

[–]Ray_817 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think he went along with it to build evidence for eventual divorce so that she could not squeeze the life out of him financially. Maybe he is a little smarter then everyone here is giving him credit for. Maybe the marriage was solid for 16 of 18 years, once the slide started happening he played the game until he knew his life's work was secure.

[–]johnny_c_note 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Photo of ex-husband/cuck Scott Mansfield. Just look at the pain in his eyes as he tries to smile with his lips tightly pursed. So sad.

[–]yaardi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think he just have thin lips, dude.

[–]Stron23 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure I must have said 'whore' 10+ times reading this article. The mind boggles..

[–]yaardi 5 points6 points  (2 children)

From Monday to Friday she's out of home, which makes roughly 260 days in that year, and she only fucked 12 people?

[–]imbeciI 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Remember that to some women handjobs, blowjobs and getting her pussy licked don't count as sexual encounters.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

how come under the articles title the tag line is: "The results of the experiment were unexpected to say the least. "

Um not really. She left him which is totally expected. I think it's "fair to say" it was easy to predict.

Thisn isn't yahoo news tho, it's an archive of a redbook article. Did redbook delete it after realizing it made women look bad?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I honestly just read that shit and its what caused me to login here and see if anybody else had seen that fucked up pile of horse shit.

[–]ransay3277 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Two things... First: did anybody else notice that this was on the Good Housekeeping website? Second. I read the original article which this came from, about a year old, and she called it quits after hubby got together with a woman 15 years younger than her. So while she landed more tail, he got better tail and traded up.

[–]Rommel0502 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Two things. First, who the fuck are these guys who allow their women to go out and fuck other guys and stay with them? Even in my bluest younger days, I couldnt imagine tolerating that crap for even a moment.

Second, regarding your last sentence, I think men used to control hypergamy rather well. Its the reason for the consistent phenomenon across cultures to shame a women who've transgressed. Only in the last 30 or 40 years has the liberalization of our culture not only allowed but rewarded such behavior.

[–]boredepression 8 points9 points  (1 child)

If only I had known 17 years ago...

[–]scarletspider3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Warn the younger guys you know.

[–]Red_Pill_Raskol 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Pretending for a minute that there wasn't a divorce rape, sounds like a happy ending to me. The guy traded in for a newer model and unloaded a cock-harpy.

[–]ElKapitan8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cock Carousel™ applies to all sluts, no matter married or not married.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Moving back home full time proved more difficult than I had thought. After you open up a marriage and experience a whole range of sexual variety and aspects of yourself you've never had before, it's hard to put everything back in the box. You're changed."

Without even realizing it she just gave the world a crystal clear justification for locking down women's sexuality until marriage.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Open relationships are for women that want to have the benefit you provide, while testing the waters for something better. The chances are pretty good that of the 12 guys that end up fucking her, she will pick one for further adventure and leave you out in the cold.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The woman slept with 12 other people. The husband slept with 1.

Hence both are losers and probably low value. The woman couldn't get commitment from any of the 12 dudes. And the husband couldn't fuck more than one girl.

After reconnecting with Alden and falling deeply in love with him, there was no going back."

Ah here it is gentlemen, after 12 attempts off giving up her whomb she finally found a man that would stick around. What's the % success rate of 12/1?

She was less shy, more confident, wilder."

Less effeminate, more masculine, exactly what men like in women.

she made the critical decision to enter into a year-long open marriage so that she could experience life

This is the problem with modern people. We feel entitled to 'experience' everything. Which results in every experience diluting the next and things fucking up. Back in ancient days you would live fast and simple and die young. That was it. People didn't have to experience everything.

Here's one important take away

I've been around in the dating scene and this led me to some sex/dating sites. Allot of bio's read exactly the same and almost every women will echo this. They claim they are not looking for a relationship, they just want no-strings-attached sex. Sounds like heaven right?

But almost every single time they make a point to exclude otherwise committed men. No married guys, no guys in a relationship. Now I ask you this. If these women only want sex, why would they be so specific about excluding already committed men?

[–]Temperfuelmma 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What. The. Fuck. Is this world going to.

[–]DrMrPepper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck that whole read is depressing.

[–]kagetsuki23 2 points3 points  (2 children)

the best strategy for a man in today time, is to date a woman for 2 years and go for another one after the 2 years.

two years is generally the length where a woman is not bored in the relationship. after this, she start getting bored want novelty and start becoming a pain in the ass.

[–]Ripsaw1990 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is along the same lines as I was thinking but more like 3-6 months and then cut it as soon as sex starts to slow down. You could squeeze it out longer but honestly a new girl thats ready to bang like rabbits is probably worth the extra effort.

[–]newName543456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my experience it's closer to a year. But funnily enough, circumstances of things going sour were at least superficially different each time.

[–]Spoopsnloops 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The woman slept with 12 other people.

Let's not fool ourselves. She wrote an article and probably didn't want to come off as too promiscuous. You know that number was actually in the triple digits.

[–]Mckallidon 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This is why you should never be faithful in LTRs. Eventually she will cheat so you have to cheat back first.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cheating on a girl is also a DHV. One of my go to lines while in the pickup phase with a new girl is telling her, "I'd probably cheat on you". Which they love. Flips the script so they know that they are chasing you

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

HAHAHAHA. This is just crazy. It's like I'm living in bizarro world.

[–]Rougepellet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This reads like the english essays we wrote in highschool. One steaming pile of shit

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Agree entirely that western society has now completely gone to the dogs and this article proves it. To treat this vile woman's abuse of her husband as a fluffy little piece of "news" is one thing, but to think that the cunt is also writing a book about it is the last straw. You are right OP. This proves the redpill is true, but it makes you want to cry. In any civilised society the world has ever had before the last 50 years, this cunt would have been at the very least shamed and ostracised by family, society and friends, and at worst killed. Now it is just something that a bold and independant womyn has done so that it can be consumed by a bunch of entitled hags and post wall dreamers on their way to work. Bring back the stocks so sluts like this can be shackled in the town square while the public throw rotten fruit and faeces at them. Fuck me what have we become? Is any of this real?

[–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How long before she gets bored of the CC too?

Then what will she have?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

There is no benefit - none

I disagree. Children are what marriage is about.

[–]inquiringmindswould 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except, he was adamant before the marriage there would be no children. He eventually got a vasectomy. In this case, there was absolutely NO reason to get married.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wrong. Marriage is about forcing you to support a cunt even when she is no longer fucking you and had done everything she possibly can to fuck things up.

You can have kids without marriage. You can be part of their life, and you will have a less difficult time legally doing it that way. Marriage sure as fuck does not guarantee you will be there for your kids, the cunt can rip them from you and the state will help her keep you out of their lives.

Anything else is fucking fantasy.

[–]SYL3NZR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

how are marriage and children related?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what a fucking cunt. I'd love to hear the husband's honest perspective on all of this. I suppose if he got with that younger chick, it wasn't all for naught.

[–]GC0W30 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I suppose if he got with that younger chick, it wasn't all for naught.

With this horrible bitch for a wife, jacking off would be an upgrade.

Dollars to donuts, though, he was fucking a younger hamplanet with daddy issues.

The guys who can clean up in an open marriage don't get married....

[–]FilthMonger85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Great post mate. Thank you.

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[–]Friendly_B 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I learned not to move in with girlfriends after the first one.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

100% agree and i just got done commenting the same. no man wants to fuck his chubby aged middle aged wife after literally 20 years of ONLY fucking her. the only difference is? men can't get pussy as easily, women get dick on demand. any woman can break up her marriage and start fucking 23 year old men. a man has a MUCH harder time doing that, so while they all want to, they simply don't bother, cause they'll just lose their wife and end up being laughed at by all the young women. fuck marriage and monogamy for everyone, 100% guaranteed the sex gets boring and the passion dies off at some point.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trade in a 45 year old man for a 25 year old man and unless you get a big alimony check, you know what you just did? At 45 you've built your life, at 25 the average guy has built fuck all. The young guy has less experience, knowledge, network, and opportunities. She will be struggling the entire time she is with the young guy. Meanwhile the 45 year old will move on and build more if unencumbered with massive alimony and child support payments. Been there done that when you're old.

Sure the young guy might look hotter, but the old guy is more attractive and has more going for him.

Flip it to girls and the young one holds the cards, the old one holds nothing but saggy tits and baggage from her poor choices.

Do it the way I did, fucking them through their hot 20s and letting them go around 30 means you can do far better than she ever will again.

[–]WolfCore77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know, marriage used to fucking work. It was usually for love and then there was no way out aside from cheating or abuse. Now any woman can go "fuck this, im not interested anymore" and fuck off. Why? What happened? All these women are so entitled these days.

Where the pill at, I need one!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (20 children)

there is alot of shaming women in this post for not wanting married sex with some boring beta male who works a shitty dead end 9-5 to bring home the bacon. but you know what? i dont wanna fuck a chubby middle aged housewife who gave up exercising years ago and looks like one of my mothers middle aged friends when i was growing up. i mean lets get real, marriage and monogamy ruins sex for everybody. lets fucking put it to rest already as a society and move on. its not womens fault, its not men's fault, its societies fault for forcing something unatural upon ourselves.

[–]t12totalxyzb00 13 points13 points [recovered]

COUGH CHIRLDREN COUGH

Are you this blind?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I disagree with the part of your comment which decries the shaming of the woman. She deserves to be shamed. She is a vile and despicable example of everything we hate about women in here. Let's maintain the rage and blame this cunt, not society

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

shame her for what? being bored with marriage? my longest relationship is 5 years and i was bored with the sex at around 2 years. i can't blame some women for feeling sick of a 20 year fucking marriage. i would be out of there Looooooong before that point. what else does she deserve blame for ? the open relationship shit? well her husband agreed to be cucked, he's a fucking pathetic loser. thats his problem, his wife basically asked "can i cucked you" and he said "yes please". i cant blame her for being married to some beta without a shred of testosterone in his body. what would you say if your wife wanted to cuck you? you'd tell her to fuck off right? so what do i care if her husband is a spineless jelly fish? if she cheated its a different story, but her husband agreed to be cucked, so i fail to see what she did wrong that i need to shame her for it.

Also, the men that marry women are the ones that deserve to be shamed. for fuck sake why do guys still marry women? its 2016 for fuck sake, marriage has been exposed as a sham with no benefits for a long ass time. any man that gets married is a chump that deserves his fate. at this point blaming women for shit like this is like blaming ciggarettes for giving you lung cancer, you chose to smoke them.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well I would never ever get married again as that was the worst experience of my life but if I somehow woke up married and my aging uggo wife wanted an open relationship I'd be so happy. It would mean I could trade her in for a younger girl. Or several younger girls.

[–]inquiringmindswould 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She should be shamed for violating her vows. She ended up cheating on him anyways and leaving him for one of her lovers. Shaming allows for punishment without violence. Shaming/ostracism is the single greatest tool in a civilized society's toolbox.

Setting aside the whole ill-conceived plan, it still had rules and she broke all of them. Do you propose we not hold people accountable because they are bored, lazy, or horny?

[–]420purpleunicorn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes thank you.

Also kids post below - I have multiple partners and a kid. She has many adults in her life more like a village than a normal family. So, kids?

[–]inquiringmindswould 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're reading a lot of "alpha" & "beta" traits where I don't really think it's justified. For example, he was unyielding about no children. He refused outright several times and when he suspected she might have an "accident", he got a vasectomy. Isn't that holding his own?

His one, absolutely "beta" move was agreeing to the 1-year "open" period- he should have ended it there. But, there isn't enough room made in this thread for a woman to be a shitty person and for that to be no reflection on the man.

Setting aside that he should have never allowed it, consider their conditions for the open relationship: (safe sex, no serious encounters, mutually agreeing to end the open period i.e. no cheating) she broke EVERY single one of the rules. That just makes her dishonest. (Note: He was in a relationship with a younger women while the wife was off, so not all was lost).

Her whole account is viewed through a revisionist lens to minimize the outcome- she cheated on him and left him for a new man. Once-a-week sex 18 years into a marriage is definitely above average in America. "Betas" do not get that much duty sex. This all reads as a justification piece. She married thinking she could get the husband to change his mind about children (he was clear before the marriage). She realized she would not and decided that she was going to have her revenge by sleeping with a gaggle of men. This is a vengeance tale.

OP, you shouldn't make the mistake of believing something a women wrote without thinking about how she wants this to be perceived.

[–]zephyrprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did she even marry this guy in the first place if he refused to have kids and she wanted kids? Honestly I don't even see any reason to get married unless you're going to have kids. I feel like this article isn't even a good example of women's hypergamy since she wasn't getting able to have kids like she wanted.

I do agree that the best takeaway from this is the fact that women have it way easier in the dating market. An open marriage is inherently unfair because men have a much harder time hooking up than women. The only way to balance that out for the man is to not even be in a committed relationship. Even then, a lot of men aren't high enough smv to spin plates.

[–]scarletspider3 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I've been planning to settle with my LTR so we can have a kid. I'm just not gonna marry her. I figure that if she never has that complete security knowing that she can't just run off with half my shit she'll be less likely to fuck up.

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[–]scarletspider3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I know I'm running the risk of getting hauled in for child support but I think getting a surrogate is kind've fucked up for the kid. I guess I'm hoping that by not signing on the dotted line I can maintain some frame. Hey the longer I can hold out, the less child support I'll have to pay cause I'm pretty sure I can beat any claim for retroactive child support.

[–]kremer5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and how much of this is the dude's fault?

[–]hahayeahthatscool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow what a waste of time, a couple approaching their end gets a divorce. More news at 11.

[–]Sdom1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, she's a hypocritical moron. Yes, the media treat men unfairly. There are millions of examples of that. But what I found more interesting is that she is in a tailspin because she never reproduced. She dynamited her marriage because her husband wouldn't knock her up. So, she figures, if I can't have children, I'll have fun. What's unspoken is that because she has no children, she feels her life has no purpose, because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't.

Women and men have evolved to reproduce. We have mechanisms in place to ensure this happens. Men have the insane desire to fuck everything that moves. Women get baby rage. At a certain age, if they haven't had a kid they get the insane desire to get pregnant at all costs. Older women will talk freely about it. Some suppress it, but doing so fucks with them on a deep, primal level.

One of my older friends had a theory that any childless woman over 35 was most likely nuts. He is older than me and had observed this phenomenon with many of the professional women he knew from his 20s on who were fine when they were younger, but never had kids and totally cracked up in their 40s. An interesting theory.

[–]highenergysanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being with someone who is the most temperamentally like me is where I can learn more

That is my favorite line. I love when women try to be deep and use nonstatements as a cop out to shitty behavior. "I need to find myself. I need to do some soul searching. I have to learn to love myself first. I'm not the same person anymore. Etc etc."

Translation: I'm about to do something inexcusably selfish and shitty, and I would like to not be held accountable.

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