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Red Pill TheoryRed Pill Toolbox: Appearance, Action, and Persuasion (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by ∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt

Listen up chucklefucks, it's time we start taking the lessons we've learned here from others and put them into practice in our daily lives. The red pill is a bitter mutherfucker to swallow, but if you are here then you're used to not having things sugarcoated:

Appearance

You need to get your appearance in order. If you've got a beer belly, lose that mofo. If you're a scrawny beanpole, pick up a weight now and then and eat a steak. If you've got a fucked up grill, get braces. Do what you need to do to get this shit sorted as everything we do in life that has a social element to it relies on that mug of yours and informs people's option of you.

The last thing you want is to be constantly be digging yourself out of the hole a sub-par appearance puts you in. Change doesn't happen overnight, so the sooner you begin the process the sooner changes will be realized. Life isn't fair and not everyone gets to be a model. Tough shit. Do what you need to do and fix what you can when you can. Stop putting it off. That leads me to my next point...

Action

Too many of you fuckers don't walk the god damn walk. You come here, read some theory, nod in agreement, maybe type up a response or thread of your owns, then don't do shit in real life to put those lessons into practice! The meat of this thread is getting you all into action. And by action I don't mean jerking off morning, noon, and night like some of you are doing. It means approaching the hot chick on the street (not the mediocre chicks because your ego is afraid the hot ones will turn you down), asking for the raise you want, waddling your tubby ass into a gym, and so on. GET YOUR ASS INTO ACTION!

For those who are looking for a community of like-minded individuals, head on over to The Fraternity and apply now! New members are being accepted, but that window closes soon!

Persuasion

Have I got your attention? Have I put up a mirror in front of you and you don't like what you see looking back? Good! While you're doing the above I want you to go start reading the works of Robert Cialdini. Persuasion is what allows us to punch above our weight with women, get special discounts not otherwise offered, to nail that job interview, or get that raise. Persuasion is the very heart of pickup and is something we can all use in our daily lives if we cultivate that skill.

It's my belief that we need to start putting more focus on how the words we use can make or break our sexual strategy. I was going to write up why this is relevant, but why reinvent the wheel? Give this NSFW link a read and formulate your own opinions and strategies on how to put persuasion into practice, but you've first got to do your damn homework and read the books, watch the videos, and learn the basic theory behind it all. I'm going through this process myself and it's a bitch, but audio books help a ton:

https://whetyourwoman.com/2013/08/19/six-awesome-tips-from-influence-by-robert-cialdini/

More:

http://www.nicknotas.com/blog/how-to-use-persuasion-to-attract-women/

http://www.tsbmag.com/2008/11/24/the-psychology-of-seduction/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFdCzN7RYbw


[–]Snufek 139 points140 points  (58 children)

Appearance:

reddit: malefashionadvice, fitness

youtube: alpham, Real Men Real Style, teachingmensfashion

Action:

30 days of discipline by Victor Pride

The 50th Law by Robert Greene

Behavioral Activation Therapy - google how it works and apply

Persuasion

youtube: Charisma on Command, Barron Cruz,

The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene

[–]nu121x 39 points40 points  (37 children)

Could someone confirm that the malefashionadvice subreddit is indeed a good place to get fashion advice? The average redditor is a middle class white male who is more likely beta/nu-male than not and probably dress/style themselves accordingly.

It seems like I am better off just doing what I do -- making friends with my gay barber and asking him for advice. Gay guys are notoriously good at style.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[–]whuttupfoo 44 points45 points  (0 children)

malefashionadvice is basically the how to dress like a k-mart ad community. don't do it.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Could someone confirm that the malefashionadvice subreddit is indeed a good place to get fashion advice?

It's complete shit. Look at the upvoted posts. Half of it is ridiculously skinny guys wearing all black and trench coats they paid way too much for. Really just horrible advice overall.

Any resource worth looking at will tell you (or at least imply) that the #1 rule of male fashion (or any fashion) is that everything looks better when you're fit. That means plenty of muscle, low body fat %, and an outfit that fits well enough to show it off without being showy. Provided the fit is right, a fit guy looks better dressed in jeans and a t-shirt than a fat or skinny fat guy wearing a professionally picked outfit.

A good starting point is actually this site. Basically just wardrobe ideas. If I'm lost on how to dress for an occasion, I'll sometimes peruse those outfits until I find something that I can emulate using my own wardrobe and adding my own stylistic choices. Obviously buying those exact outfits is fucking stupid and a massive waste of money, but it'll help you get out of the standard white guy outfit of jeans and a button down every day.

[–]bornredd 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Any resource worth looking at will tell you (or at least imply) that the #1 rule of male fashion (or any fashion) is that everything looks better when you're fit.

This is 100% correct, and the reason is that good looking clothing reveals positive body traits. Without positive body traits, humans look like crap, regardless of what fabric you are wearing. The only exception to this is clothes that mimic positive traits, such as suit coats, which can square out (broaden) your shoulders, and the like. Even then, losing fat and building muscle will always be a superior investment.

[–]indichut 41 points42 points  (2 children)

MFA will give you some good basic structure and rules of men's fashion (e.g. Color matching, how to know something fits, etc). However, don't listen to any of there suggestions about what to buy or outfits, pure trash fire.

Honestly, find a guy that dresses well and can help you, or pick up a GQ. It sounds cliche, but way better than reddit.

[–]maxbrooksmacbook 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The spring/summer/fall/winter ideaboards and picture albums are great places to look for the look you want

[–]Senior Contributorveggie_girl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And don't buy anything from Express or any other shitty Chinese clothing importer that has a 4000% markup on their trash clothes. Stuff will wear out after 4 washes.

[–]MCommandant 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I read a comment once that said malefashionadvice people have a tendency to look like college kids wearing the clothes more appropriate for middle-aged men going golfing, on a cruise, etc. Pretty accurate.

My advice, for what it's worth, would be to find some styles you like and emulate them. Talking to your gay barber is also good. And above all, make sure your attire is appropriate for you and your situation.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's not. They are fad filled fuccboi wannabes. You'll look like nerd ninja street wear wannabe, or somehow fuck up clarks with a peacoat and chinos.

Very few in there worth emulating

Gay dudes are helpful. Easiest way? Find a style you like, replicate it, expand on it. The more of your items that can work with all your other items, the more you can work with

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you have a reasonable budget to spend on clothes a stylist/ fashion consultant can be a worthwhile investment. Say you have a budget to spend of say $1,200 on a new wardrobe. Pay $200 of that to get a stylist help you shop. I did this once and the time and money I saved was worth every cent. She knew all the best shops, best bargains, the staff; she argued them down on price, she taught me loads of basic style tips. She also grabbed loads of clothes and I just basically tried stuff on while she adjusted and grabbed more stuff which suited my taste. It taught me a lot about style and shopping and saved me a lot of money. No doubt a gay guy would do just as well

[–]homelessWOOKIE9 11 points12 points  (0 children)

it's not. go out a lot. you can tell the guys who are well dressed and learn from them. Buy what matches your style/body type

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Could someone confirm that the malefashionadvice subreddit is indeed a good place to get fashion advice?

It's good if you're going cruising.

Jokes aside, it's ok-ish if you literally don't know how to dress and need to go from sweatpants to proper clothing. But they obsess over a specific style (boots, skinny jeans, brogue shoes) that's tailored to skinny nu-male types and gay men, who make up the vast majority of the contributors.

[–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Take fashion advice from your local area. What people wear to death in NY is not the same shit in Atlanta or any other state, there can be similarities but fashion is trendy and it always helps to dress as if you are aware of trends.

[–]spartan_317 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you have a Pintrest, they have many male fashion boards with outfit sets that are fairly decent.

[–]stay_anon_stay_safe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the fitness subreddit sucks too, even the 4c board does a better job at it

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

'fashion' rofl. why you need other people to tell you what looks good

[–]jay1451 5 points5 points [recovered]

I got deleted cuz I threw out a shoutout to streetwear subreddit. But the gist is I agree with you that subreddit is lame and if you're in an urban area check out streetwear. Just like TRP take what you like and disregard the rest

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Lol

Don't ever go into this place. These are the generic guys who aren't getting any.

This isn't a style, it's a way to jerk your bullshit clothes into thinking you have one

[–]maxbrooksmacbook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They all downvoted me to hell for saying it was smart to stand in line early in the morning to cop like 5 pairs of highly demanded shoes to sell them for profit.

Bunch of retards in there

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Gay barber is great. Hair tips and wardrobe tips

[–]bornredd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hot woman barber also works if you make it clear you're there for honesty and not flirting.

[–]shit_pro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah MFA may be stylish, but what is popular on there and considered "stylish" does not apply to real life as well as it does on the subreddit. I don't go on reddit as much as everyone else here which may help with my perspective, but the style that is popular on MFA is slightly more abstract and hipsterish than the kind of fashion that pulls (hot) pussy and looks good in really life. You could find more practical fashion just going to the basics like complimenting jeans, nice flannels and shirts that compliment your build, and regular stylish shoes like low top converse, adidas superstars, etc. however this is coming from the perspective of someone around the undergrad age group.

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah you've got to be right. You can't spent years in the closet and not know a thing or two about fashion.

[–]smartengineer93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use Trunk Club. It expensive and only use it to buy things I can't nail down in stores. They offer style options and I take what they recommend, find the cheaper options at H&M or Old Navy and buy those. I make good money but I'll be damned if I pay 100 dollars for a casual shirt.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks at what actors and public personalities like Nick Wooster wear. The best thing a guy can do for himself style-wise is take care of his skin, hair & grooming - followed by getting a decent Brioni, Kiton or Isaia if you're on a budget, suit.

It it doesn't have a collar, it's for being worn at home or in the gym. Grocery shopping? Great, put on a henley. This is your most casual "shirt". Get a few casual dress shirts for daily wear & going out and about. All your clothing should be adjusted by a tailor, unless you have a "stock" body type - in which case you don't even lift, so go lift, fucking tadpole.

For your legs, same deal - if they're sweats or jeans, they're for being worn for rugged activities or inside your house.

The only exception should be a nice pair of jeans to wear with a proper shirt and sports coat or maybe a henley or v-neck for super casual stuff (none of that "cut so deep people can see your belly button" shit) if you're in great shape.

[–]satanicpriest13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dark jeans, black t shirts. Desert boots. Can't go wrong with this look. Mfa is an overkill sub where they discuss trivial things and look for validation (guys can I wear a sleeveless t shirt today?)

Or yeah go either your gay barber. If you want some inspiration from manly celebs, bamfstyle.com is a great blog analysing famous on screen outfits.

[–]snorted_the_red_pill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally, I am a big fan of the "Masculine Style" website. He talks about different 'archetypes' that men can dress as - Rugged (real manly man, which is what most of TRP goes for), Refined (think James Bond in a tuxedo, or someone sophisticated), and Rakish (which is what MFA tends to go for).

Quite interesting, actually.

[–]darknes66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're on Pinterest, follow things like men's fashion, men's grooming, boots, men's shoes, denim... You get the point. I've gotten tons of great style ideas from there

[–]guifawkes -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Yeah they are way over priced. Just go to TJ Maxx or Ross and you can get designer clothing for cheap. I was raised with five sisters who taught me how to dress and I have them as a resource still when I'm shopping.

I usually buy button up, collared shirts (max $20 for me) and then take them to a tailor ($10 per shirt) and end up with a perfectly fitted shirt for less than $30. Tailored shirts make you look like you make at least $25k more than the untailored shirts. Lol

For shoes, I say go to Aldo and ask for help. Or Call It Spring which Aldo owns.

Pants, you can go with khaki, black, greenish khaki, and grey. (Just paid $17 a piece for all these pants at tj maxx).

Other than that, always wear a watch and I think you're good. I wore a $4 amazon watch for a year and got compliments on that watch way more than my $200 watch.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

For shoes, I say go to Aldo and ask for help.

I hope no one follows that advice.

[–]guifawkes 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lol What's wrong with Aldo? They're a nice designer shoe.

[–]nothere_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They aren't designer and the general pick isn't nice.Aldo is mainly fast fashion trash

[–]refusewool 13 points14 points  (0 children)

also reddit: thexeffect for Action,

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Appearance:

GO buy clothes Find a tailor, learn to measurement

Action

Game every weekend for 3 months Lift 3x week

Persuasion

Talk to hundreds of people Test how influencial you can get

You're offering more reading, more research. One of these chodes failing IRL will offer more than hundreds of hours of video

[–]thebigswole 5 points6 points  (1 child)

alpha m, real men real style, and teaching mens fashions are literally the worst channels ever

[–]ChinmayT2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alpha m is bad? I thought he was awesome

[–]LockedOnTheRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, another one for persuasion is "The Charisma Myth." Charm and Charisma is paramount in getting ahead in life.

[–]JLCitadel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Charisma on Command, the man who makes the presentation, sets off tons of alarm bells in my mind for sociopath / psychopath. However, there is nothing I inherently disagree with from what I've seen of his content. Does anyone else get this impression?

[–]GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've watched him a lot and never gotten that impression, but I guess I could see what your saying

[–]a_chill_bro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For "action" I highly recommend the book "Getting Things Done" by David Allen.

It will help you get your shit organized in order to take the right kind of action at the right time.

[–]Robotnos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of you guys are way overrating appearance and fashion. Most women don't want a GQ model, they want a dude that could fuck up all the other dudes if a fight breaks out. Dress the part and meet the social standards but posture and attitude trump fashion. I've been far into the male fashion thing and big into fighting and martial arts. As the best looking guy around it bought me an extra 3 or 4 seconds of positive reaction but that's it, as a fighter women were lining up to get a peek and I could smell their pussies they would get wet all at once, lol. They didn't even know I was a fighter but the demeanour and not giving a fuck swagger is like lady Viagra. If you scare other men you get the pussies dripping.

Don't just become attractive flip the tables on these bitches and get them chasing you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]CypherWolf21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can confirm that alpham and realmenrealstyle are great for fashion. MFAs generally been pretty good as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also try the malefashion, streetwear, weightroom and bodybuilding subreddits.

[–]Marino4K 0 points1 point  (0 children)

reddit: check out bodyweightfitness, good alternative to simply just lifting weights, it's working out but for more techniques and strength

[–]TwoSpoonsJohnson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/r/bodybuilding > /r/fitness. More in depth talks on what makes a physique aesthetic, and the diet tips are A1

[–]ArthurBingKing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, do people actually watch alpham?! Youtube trash! Please do not support his brand of walmart fashion men.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (33 children)

Also, getting haircut is literally the easiest and cheapest way to go from looking like a slob to looking good.

[–]DrunkenOni 10 points10 points [recovered]

Don't go to Supercuts or Greatclips either. They work on speed, not quality. Doesn't mean you have to pay out the ass, but it helps. Find someone who actually gives a shit about doing a good job. Yelp around for barbers and salons, they're everywhere.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's what I do. I don't go to those type of places. I go to an actual local barbershop. They know what they are doing and know how to use a straight edge razor to line up your hair on your head and beard.

Also, besides the fact the barbershops that aren't Supercuts know what they are doing, they also tend to be cheaper.

[–]Boovs4life 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What do you think of Sport Clips?

[–]DrunkenOni 2 points2 points [recovered]

Same shit. All those chain places base their business model on quantity of customers, not quality of the cuts. My ex was a cosmetologist and lots of her friends went to work for places like those. Basically the ones who ended up at chain places like that were the bottom of the barrel. An occasional good one for some other circumstance, but mostly the "not good enough to cut it elsewhere" group. The hiring requirements are have your license, be fast and just good enough that people (mostly oblivious men) don't complain. The good ones are able to get jobs at much better places with better pay so it's rare to find an actual good one at a chain like that. Even if you get a good one at a chain place she'll be under too much time pressure to pay attention to detail or consult you in what would look good on you.

[–]Boovs4life 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So would you suggest the "indie" less known barbershops?

[–]rocacu 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Dude You can go from 0 to 100 real quick with a fresh haircut.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yup. It's amazing. I was looking alright in the morning, but my hair was a little messy, not too bad. Got a haircut and I look so much better and I looks much neater.

Next time you go to a barber or salon waiting for a haircut, take a look at someone else getting a haircut from start to finish. It really is such a difference in how they look before and after.

I get my haircuts for like $20, which includes tip. I get haircuts every 2-3 weeks, when it's starting to look a little messy.

[–]RobertCarraway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Also, FIND A MALE BARBER. I can't tell you how much better my haircuts have been since i started going to this guy. I hardly even had to tell him what I wanted.. he just.. figured it out and then improved it. These cost cutter females would listen to me explain EXACTLY what I wanted and then do something totally different.

You're self esteem is worth way more than the extra $20.00 a month you'll spend on a solid male barber.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never in my life gotten a haircut from a female barber and never will. I always get a male barber and my haircuts, including tip are $15-20 and they do a good job. Just found a new one after moving and he made my hair and trimmed beard look neat.

[–]Jkrew 5 points5 points [recovered]

I love getting a haircut near the end of the week. Makes me feel so fresh and confident for the weekend. I get a cut every 3 or 4 weeks.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. People rag on the jersey shore show, but there were some lessons that you could learn from that show. Given the whole staying in shape, making sure your haircut looks good and dressing to look good.

[–]Braaaaaapp 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Another point on this, is if you have a receding hairline, like I do, just keep it short, don't try growing it out and styling it, and definitely don't try hiding it, it's a huge turn off for everyone and it makes you look like you're in denial. Just keep it short

[–]glawkneintehn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How short and any examples

[–]Braaaaaapp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just get a pair of clippers and buzz it all around with a 3 or 2 or 1 whatever you think looks the best, I prefer a 3

[–]glawkneintehn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How short and any examples

[–]iamthetable 0 points1 point  (7 children)

But I love my hippie long hair :(

[–]trippinallday 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Haha, I know the feel man. I used to love my hair too, but once I cut it after years of everyone telling me to, I realized how much of a creep I looked like. I get way more IOIs and way better treatment now that it's short.

It's been over a year now and sometimes it still makes me go "Wtf?" when I reach up and don't feel all that hair. But it's for the better.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I prefer to keep my hair short as well. The nice thing is you don't feel as hot during the summer when your hair is short.

[–]glawkneintehn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Male pattern baldness started hardcore as soon as I cut my long hair. Either coincide or somethin else man....

[–]bornredd 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Long hair can look amazing too, but it also needs styling and cutting to keep it up. Hair like this doesn't just happen.

Source: Had more than 24" of hair for a long time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

protip: high end stylists can be comparably priced to a mid-level shop, ask about neck trims. They'll often offer 1-3 FREE trims that can stretch a cut 6-8+ weeks (longer hair, less maintenance). It makes a $65 cut turn into two $32.50 cuts or better, tip well of course (I usually do $10, esp. for the free one). My stylist cleans me up awesome in 5 minutes and it's night and day when I walk out.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I can't really advocate for this approach. $65 for a male haircut is too much. You're probably paying for ambiance and customer service at that point. Even if your cut lasts longer and they offer free trims (I've found it's rarely the case, usually they'll give you a cleanup on the neck and beard, but that's all, and you can often find the same service in $30 shops), you're still very much reaching the point of diminishing returns.

Maybe you've found a great place that makes it worth it for you. That's great. However, my advice for the masses is to aim to spend $25-30 plus tip. The world of hairdressing is not a perfect meritocracy. You won't always find the best stylists at the most expensive places. Once you reach the $25-30 level, pretty much everyone has experience and can cut hair. You just need to find the right person to cut yours.

I got my hair cut by the same guy for 5 years in my last city. The cut cost $25 and I went every 5 weeks. It took me about 4 different stylists to find him, and nearly all cost more and did a worse job.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I get my haircuts for like $20, which includes tip at a barbershop. Although, I'm black so my hair is different from white or Asian people.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would a black guy in hollywood get the same cut? I came up on sub-$20 cuts and they were just fine, but my hair is next level now. I could go on TV, and in fact do public speaking. One thing that may be different is if I have some length to my hair, like <2in even, it grows in various directions... if all your hair grows straight out or is much shorter it would be easier for certain. But fades etc could make a difference.

Edit: concretely, I have about 4 regions of hair that I fold up each morning while I am drying that I watch her cut separately. She's described what my hair does at various times over the years. I've tried other barbers/stylists and nobody else has done it as good, gone back.

[–]CDBaller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

White guy here in the inland PNW and that's what I pay, including tip. But I just get a good fade, nothing fancy.

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 22 points22 points [recovered]

Style is so subjective. What men like is NOT what women like. We see a guy like Justin Bieber and think "cocaine and good genetics" whereas women think "muscly god of sex". All of the world top fotballers like Cristiano Ronaldo are as big as you ever need to get for maximum sex appeal, i.e lean and a bit of muscle. Case in point, Brad Pitt from Fight Club, for some reason every woman has this picture of his fight scene etched into her memories as the template for Chad. When Arnold was asked how to achieve that body, he just replied "Carrots".

For clothes, again Chad doesnt give a fuck, he is wearing a t-shirt his plate just used to wipe the drool she made on his member. He looks great in beaten up clothes like that tshirt and jeans, cause he is built and confident. Again, look at Brad Pitt from Fight Club. He dresses like the total opposite of the sane version of him who is a GREAT REPRESENTATIVE of malefashionadvice . Take that for what its worth.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, when it comes to clothing look at the average style of the guys going to wherever you're at. That's exactly how you should dress to be congruent to the situation.

Now dress 10% better.

That's how you stand out (peacock) in a positive way. You don't need to get silly with black nail polish or a top hat & goggles. Just stand out by dressing 10% sharper than the competition.

edit:
I'll also add that depending on the environment, something flashy may be order of the day. A loud dance club with flashing lights could be a good place for a watch that has LEDs and glints in the light. Another example in that kind of environment is something a friend and I started doing when we were in our early 20s and clubbing every weekend: I'd wear a shirt that had color changing properties depending on the angle you looked at it, and how you touched it. Brush the fabric one way and it was one color, but brush it another way and it changed. One color had metallic sheen to it so it also caught the light pretty spectactularly, more than once people tried to buy it off my back. Last idea is we found those mini glow sticks and we'd put them in our mouth. Girls would invariably want to know what it is and often try to steal it by making out with us. This was the late 90s early 2000s by the way. I haven no idea what would be congruent today, but some of those things would probably go over well with the 18-22 crowd as they've never seen them before. That's about as "clownish" I'd recommend going.

If your'e older, do what /u/RP-Doctor said below about looking for key items to improve upon to just look... better.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

10% is a perfect cue, because it shows how little of a change you need to make, but that 10% makes a massive difference.

It's all about the details. For instance, this average guy looks alright. He's clean, well-groomed, and even has a few things in that outfit that pop. However, this is an example of dressing 10% better. It's still a casual outfit with jeans, but he swapped the sneakers for slightly dressier chukkas, swapped the button down for a layered sweater, and added a leather jacket. Notice he looks just as casual, just better dressed.

In general, that extra 10% doesn't come from dressing "up". This might look good in an ad, but you're going to stick out and come off a bit odd/try hard if you constantly show up looking like that while meeting your friends wearing jeans and a t-shirt. Instead, aim for the extra 10% to come from accessories/modifications that don't dress up and outfit, but just make it look better. Our average guy from above would look a lot better with rolled sleeves, a decent watch, a layered shirt under the first of a different color, and shoes and a belt that didn't blend into the color scheme so well (light brown would work well). He could also stand to swap the "I shop at the gap" plaid for a solid color to make it a bit more sophisticated.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea number one way to improve your style is to improve your physique

[–]josephisabamf 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Also about Persuasion. Scott Adams (Creator of Dilbert) has a persuasion reading list on his blog. It has a lot of books with a lot of useful info. A quick google search for Scott Adams Persuasion reading list should bring it up.

[–]draquish 8 points9 points  (4 children)

For those of you from 3rd world countries:

When you go back to visit family, take the clothes you want tailored with you and do it there. It will more than likely be cheaper than the us, and your family over there probably already knows a good one.

[–]mexicanbeast 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Why would you assume that people reading this are from third world countries but are not living there anymore?

[–]glawkneintehn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me he has a point and I'm totally gonna go do that.

[–]draquish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I didn't.

The preface to the paragraph started with "for those of you." When you use a statement like that, you are precisely being unassuming. It also makes skimming through a comment section more efficient, since, upon reading the preamble and finding it non-applicable to your situation, you can quickly move on to the next comment.

Below I have an example that I assume will not apply to most people's reality on this forum at the moment.

Example: "For those of you nearing retirement..."

If you were trying to quickly get through a comment section, you may choose to skip this comment.

Didn't mean to trigger u bruh

[–]mexicanbeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right bru. My appologies

[–]Stefto 5 points6 points  (2 children)

If you've got a fucked up grill, get braces.

non native english speaker here, what does a grill have to do with your teeth?

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's slang for teeth/smile.

[–]Stefto 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i see, thanks!

[–]therainydayman 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I also recommend reading "Models : Attract women through honesty", by Mark Manson. Started reading it earlier this week, there is something he calls "The three fondamentals" :

  • Creating an attractive lifestyle / Honest Living, which can be linked to Action and Appearance: Do what you must to feel good both in your head and in your body and pursue your goals.

  • Overcoming your fears and anxiety / Honest Action, which can be linked to Action: Stop being dishonest with yourself, be bold and do what you want/have to do, the fear/anxiety will disappear progressively.

  • Mastering the expression of your emotion / Honest Communication, which can be linked to Persuasion and Action: Expressing what you want weither if it's sexual or not, engaging people's attention, having charisma, connecting with people.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read many pua stuff and put it to practice in the field and I can say Mark Manson is probably the most legit guy out there.

[–]J_AsapGem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

kevin hogan has written an outstanding book about persuasion, would definitely recommend this, he speaks about how to get win/win situations and the most powerful thing i earned from feeding this book is OBT [outcome base thinking] which goes basically like this, what does the person you want to persuade wants? what do you want from this person? what are they looking for the situation you are [ fun, someone to talk too, etc]? how can you give them that? it's pretty amazing stuff guys definitely recommend it to everyone.

[–]Hollerich 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You are still living your life based on what women want. I don't give a shit what women want. Now, going to the gym, running, losing weight, eating healthy - that's all great. So is continuous education, reading, etc. But If you are still defining your sense of identity based on what women want and what women find attractive, etc., then what is the point of MGTOW and Red Pill?

[–]RobertCarraway 3 points4 points  (1 child)

what is the point of MGTOW and Red Pill?

Personally, I enjoy the feeling that I get when women want to fuck me and men want to be me (or be friends with me). TRP - induced changes have made it so that I feel like I'm walking through life with the wind at my back instead of the wind at my face.

Are we pandering to women? Very fine line there.

[–]Elesh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

men want to be me (or be friends with me). I've improved my style, and fitness to where I'm visibly in the 90th percentile of men. I don't know how to feel good about it.

I'm struggling with escaping the crab bucket at college. Crabs fucking everywhere I look. I'm asocial so it's not a trap, but a burden. My dysfunctional family haunts me.

[–]1mrust 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Cialdini released a new book a few weeks ago called Pre-Suasion.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yup. I bought the audio book yesterday. I'm about to start chapter 3, but here's something that really resonated with me from back in the day:

The factor to most likely determine a person's choice in a situation is often not the one that offers the most accurate or useful counsel, but instead is the one elevated in attention and thereby in privilege at the moment of decision.

Now think about the times in your life where you've been talking to women, things are going well, and some loudmouth douchebag comes along and completely steals the spotlight and she ends up going home with him instead. Does that sound familiar? This is why holding court and being able to get the attention back onto you when other guys come into the picture at a bar, club, party, whatever is an integral skill we need to be proficient in if we want to be successful. The same thing applies to getting a job and is why anchoring and making a great first impression are important.

[–]maxbrooksmacbook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn. I'm usually the loudest douchebag in the bar

[–]DG_E 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lifting and learning to accept yourself are two key things. People typically compare themselves to others all the time, and I did too. It brings you nowhere you will always think you don't look good enough etc...

Since then I have started to look myself in the mirror and actually appreciate what I got, I don't think I'm hot shit. I know im hot shit.

I still have ways to improve but this post was great.

[–]Eyeswears 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, if I could have a place of my own without underachieving roommates who are always taking me out a personal groove because of pettiness, my quality of life would improve tenfold, without a doubt. Unfortunately, I don't have the money to finish off my degree and pay for my own place, of decent quality, close to my university.

I'm still trying to wrestle for control of the natural alpha of the house so I don't have to fantasize about being the king of my home (it sucks not having control of EVERYTHING in the house when you're a batshit crazy ambitious type A personality like me). It'd benefit everyone else in the house, too, because I'm a lot cleaner, orderly, and fair then the current natural alpha of the house.

If you aren't competing with people at the place you come home from work/school every day, it's 10x easier not to get into the habit of comparing yourself to others.

[–]EatmyShorts59 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I have cliff notes on "Influence: Science and Practice by Robert Cialdini"

If anyone is interested.

Too long to post, so I'll have to email them.

give me your email

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Use Dropbox and just post the public link. Your account is still protected.

[–]EatmyShorts59 2 points3 points  (5 children)

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s596/sh/4249f767-f91d-4c9b-a2a9-987b87945d11/8b386f6b82ca28fd05c44d3b24fcf0b1

Should take you directly to the notes.

I would love some feedback.

I plan on making a website devoted to cliff notes and other such endeavors of mine.

[–]RedPillandNoFap 2 points2 points [recovered]

Feedback:

The meat of this thread is getting you all into action.

Thanks for the notes. If you have $100 to spare get a domain name, get a cheap hosting package, and use Divi builder from elegant themes. You can toss up a simple, nice website in a few hours. If you don't have $100 to spare, use a free wordpress blog host and a free wordpress theme from template monster. Then do us a favor and post more of your notes on TRP because we want to read those too. (See what I did there?)

[–]EatmyShorts59 1 point2 points  (3 children)

littleblackboy.com

I NEED honest feedback.

Any and ALL opinions are welcome.

[–]RedPillandNoFap 1 points1 points [recovered]

Off to a great start! Delete your Sample Page, and maybe put fewer navigation links at the top so its not overwhelming. Maybe something like: Cliff Notes, TIL, Musings (blog posts), Dance, Contact Me ?

[–]EatmyShorts59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just found out how to remove the additional navigation links !


I have around ~50 cliff notes for books.

https://www.evernote.com/pub/grierts/bookcliffnotes

Slowly but surely, I will post everything to that site.

[–]OmegaMan2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A very good series of articles.

[–]CreamiestCream 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Too many of you fuckers don't walk the god damn walk

Yeah! You sound learned, masculine, and successful!

Have I got your attention?

Yeah. Aside, what was your gross annual income last year?

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I made $970,000 last year. How much'd you make?

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How though? I've been unemployed for 8 years and want to make lots of money.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've always wanted to be an Alec Baldwin impersonator, maybe I'll finally go though with it.

[–]CraniumKart 0 points1 point  (0 children)