Red Pill Theory"Grow up" : Guys (even on here) who judge and attack guys their age trying to live the partying/hedonistic lifestyle are not that different than post wall women who want men in their prime to settle down. (self.TheRedPill)

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I posted a thread in the past about how if you were not able to get the partying, drinking, and debauchery out of your system in college; then it might just be the time to spend a certain portion of your life getting it out of the way after it. At one point, I even said you don't have to do it forever, but maybe a year or so to just get it out of your system.

Little did I know, these kinds of comments poured in:

Bleh partying is so lame, grow up already, bleh!

Not everyone is low IQ and wants to get wasted!

You should party in your 30s! What kind of a moron does that? What is wrong with you? See a therapist!

Oh my god, do something more interesting with your worthless life than partying, drinking, fucking sluts, and getting wasted. Read Plato and do art like the rest of us you fucking white male!

So I get it, partying and drinking is not for everyone. Some of you want the quiet life of staying in all day and looking at deer outside your house or painting on a quiet morning. The issue is, not all of us (even in our 30s) want that kind of life. Just like how some men want to get into LTRs instead of spinning plates, some men want to party and live it up rather than reading Plato on a Friday night.

The issue here is, we have a lot of scholarly guys on TRP who look down on the Hugh Hefners, Dan Bilzerians, and Leonardo DiCaprios of the world or those that aspire to be like them. Last I checked, reading complex books and writing research paper caliber essays on the dating market should not be required for all guys taking part in this sub.

Maybe it's because of a disconnect between the younger guys on here versus the older guys who think that everyone should "grow up". Maybe it's because younger guys on here who experienced that lifestyle forgot the fun parts of it despite the consequences and now want everyone to avoid that lifestyle, even its fun parts. Maybe it's because younger guys who are social outcasts think they are being edgy or above the Chad or HB9 by not partying. Who knows?

But lets talk about this "grow up" card, sound familiar?

Older woman who is 35 sees a guy her age get with a hot 25 year old, what does she say? Grow up! Stop valuing a woman for her looks! Appreciate a woman for "something more than just her looks" (translation: Forgive me for being a post wall slut you fucking male!). Be a "real man" who takes care of kids she might have had from her first marriage and stop pursuing what you want in life. It's time to be a dad you fucking male! It's time to "settle down" because "all grown ups" do that.

We can apply this exact same logic to guys who hate other guys for wanting to party and live it up in life.

You still down shots and go to clubs in your 30s? Grow up!

You might as well say, you still sleep around with women in your 30s? Grow up!

You still get wasted in your 30s? Grow up!

You're still not married in your 30s? Grow up!

Grow up! Grow up! Grow up! Grow up you fucking male!

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 107 points107 points [recovered]

The way I see it, the middle road is best.

On one hand, you have partying/socialising/getting laid. On the other, you have intellectual pursuits/career/business/success. They generally require different modes of thinking and are completely different skillsets.

At times in my life, I have done both. And at times, it really pays to focus one one or the other in order to get something handled in an area of life.

The happiest i've ever been is now, where I balance both, but it took a lot of hard work to get there.

The guy who parties and is hedonistic constantly, generally, cannot be that successful in life. The guy who is constantly business/intellectual/career etc, will be stifled and in his head without counter balance. Because different skillsets are needed for both.

Learn both and lead a life along the middle road. It's the most satisfying.

[–]BassNet 26 points27 points  (15 children)

I agree, I recently moved into a fraternity house and the party scene here is nuts. The balance is really hard and my grades are suffering as a result. I can really see firsthand why partying too much stifles your ability to be successful.

[–]reckful994 25 points26 points  (11 children)

If you are majoring in something difficult like math, electrical engineering, physics, chemistry, computer science... I don't know how one can frequently party and complete some of these courses. The material is very difficult and requires intense focus and concentration.

Try doing Laplace transformations while nursing a hangover.

[–]Celdron 14 points15 points  (7 children)

This is incredibly true. I just lost a LTR because (I'm assuming, with what I know) I just wasn't fun enough. I'm majoring in Computer Engineering, I'm sorry I don't want to go to parties every weekend or get high. I'm focused on my future. It's been hard, but as long as I stay focused everything will come.

It partly sucks because I'm not top-market right now, at 19. But when I'm making 60k+ at 23 and have the free time to go out, focus on hobbies and have fun without worrying about money, I will be. I can wait for a red-pilled woman who values that.

[–]reckful994 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Keep any discussion about your studies away from social situations and women. Once you pass even a first semester calculus course, your abilities in math are beyond 85% of the population. Once you complete 4-5 semesters of math, physics, and computer science, the fact is that a significant amount of what you think about is far beyond most people.

If you want to maintain a life while pursuing a major like this, you have to intentionally create strict boundaries between your studies and your social life.

[–]Celdron 7 points8 points  (3 children)

It's not that I try to integrate my work into my social life, it's just that I have better ways to spend my limited free time than going to parties, etc. I'd rather just spend time casually with close friends.

She wants her college life to be an adventure full of crazy memories. I just want to get through it and go do fun things once I'm financially stable. So our priorities didn't line up, and she didn't want to wait.

[–]askmrcia 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Almost every girl is like that. And I'm going to tell you something, I became that way too in college. I was a computer science major for two years. I've spent sooooo much time studying and doing lab works I had almost no time to party. Not to mention I was playing football for the school.

I eventually dropped it because everyone around me was having a great college life. Only the nerdy Asian kids were computer science guys and they weren't much social.

So I became a business major and let me tell you, I had fun in college but I'm not in the best position now.

It's one of my biggest regret and I'm sure thousands of kids make that mistake.

Keep with your studies because no one gives a fuck about your cool college experiences once you graduate

[–]reckful994 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I major in CS, work full time, and still manage to get out once in a while (2-3 times a month). You can balance it, but the split will be 80/20 between work and a social life. (I'm only taking 12 units though)

If you got far enough in it, you may be able to go back and finish a few more classes and get your CS degree, but I don't know the specifics.

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just went back to get my MBA focused in it. You can definitely balance it. But I was a dumbass. As in I'm not the typical computer science nerd, so I had to study way harder than the other guys to understand it. But yea stay with it man.

[–]rp_newdawn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Great mindset. Stay focused brotha

[–]Gardrothard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No party can replace that feeling of "getting it". You know, you don't understand it and then something clicks in your brain, or you figure out what was the bug after hours of checking it out, or finding some hack that reduces solution to almost a trivial one.

That feeling is better than anything else. For me at least.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try doing Laplace transformations while nursing a hangover.

Sounds like my Sophomore year

[–]BassNet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm actually studying electrical/computer engineering haha. I intend to see it through though and so far I'm passing all my classes.

[–]rp_newdawn 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I lived in a fraternity house for 4 years while premed. Currently a resident. Listen man, here is one small tip. When you go to campus for your first class, just stay on campus. Whenever you have an hour or two or three between lectures, go to the library and get your work done. If you use that time instead of going back to the house and watching TV, you will be in a better place. Also, when everyone wants to start drinking after dinner you can partake because your work for the day is already done.
Work hard, play hard brotha

[–]fakenate1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I picture people on the Internet to be generally like me, mid-30's in career mode, etc.

When you said "I recently moved into a fraternity house" (when I was in college I would have said "I moved into my fraternity house) I pictured a 30 something year old renting a room at a random fraternity house.

[–]darkwolfx24678 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Work hard, play hard. There's a time and place for everything. Personally, I spend more of my time on goals and pursuits than partying but I always set aside time, generally on the weekends, to get away from all of that and let loose. Even then I don't like to feel like I'm wasting time so I'll give myself a loose, no commitment goal while I'm partying such as working on my social skills, presence, etc... The balance is crucial for me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That being said, I'd prefer to be the second option. Anyone can go out partying whenever they want. It doesn't take any skill, commitment or talent.

It's a lot easier for a super successful guy to let his foot off the pedal a little and start partying, compared to a guy who spent his whole life partying and now wants to make something of himself.

Definitely better to go for the second option, if you have to choose that is.

[–]Project_Thor 192 points193 points  (17 children)

You can be a man and do whatever the fuck you please. Nothing here is related

[–]vagbutters 29 points30 points  (16 children)

The beta bitch is a slave to the system, the alpha does what he pleases and capitalizes on the betas' complacency. The best thing about feminism is that there's lots of poon in store for the top 20% guys because of the lack of competition.

[–]Vajesticles 7 points8 points  (12 children)

If everyone is Alpha then no one is Alpha.

[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Correction: if everyone is alpha then the top 20% of alphas are alpha.

[–]drallcom3 10 points10 points [recovered]

Exactly. It's a very important thing that TRP rarely seems to realize. There's actual research that the 80/20 divide hold true even in a pool of only alphas.

Meaning, there will always be 80% betas. It's simply in our nature, both genders.

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[–]Battle-Scars 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's called the Pareto principal and has been around for over 100 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

[–]noaydi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

aha 80/20 apply everywhere then. It almost say no need to become alpha, there is always the same barrer.

It's almost like at the end we will find that women in a relationship like 20% of your personnality and hate 80% of the rest lol

we discovered 20% of univers, 80% remain undiscovered.

I tested 20% drugs existing on earth, 80% left.

I'm friend with 20% of hummanity, don't know 80% other.

20% ppl should grow up, while 80% are already grown.

1+1 = 2 in 20% of time, 80% it's another result.

20% chance humanity will survive feminism, 80% not

fuck all this shit

[–]iopq 4 points5 points  (6 children)

That's not true, if every man had his shit together, a lot more people would be having sex.

[–]ven5 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Women would still flock to the top 10% of those men too, creating a newer definition of "alpha."

[–]iopq 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The same way that if all women were in shape, there would just be more hot women. Maybe the definition of "hot woman" would be narrower, but the total number of women that are "dateable" would still increase.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go to Eastern Europe where there are very few fat chicks. The pool is larger, which is great for men. But men aren't hypergamous like women, so we don't put as much emphasis on relative ranking. Women want the top 20 percent even if they are all high value, like wanting an A list celebrity rather than a B list.

[–]vagbutters 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not necessarily. Red Pill cultures are stable cultures because even the most beta of betas can get regular sex from a woman who is loyal to him. This is because societal norms enforce fidelity. That is not to say that promiscuity or cheating are absent in such cultures, but they generally follow this mold.

[–]ven5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know what? You're right. I wasn't thinking of the proof given by traditional cultures, which is stupid considering I grew up in one.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The best thing about feminism is that there's lots of poon in store for the top 20% guys because of the lack of competition.

I've always loved feminism for this very reason

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wouldn't go that far. Unless you're a sociopathic nihilist, it is just the silver lining of a very dark cloud.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My sarcasm didn't translate very well. I enjoy the part of feminism that gives women the "empowerment" to take control of sex lives and do as they please AKA ride every cock that they want do.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 53 points54 points  (8 children)

I think its important to find a balance between hedonism and achieving your life goals. Its good to go on vacation, chill, bang some quality ass and experience some of the beauty this planet has to offer. On the other side its important to put in the hard work required to build yourself and achieve your goals.

[–]Temperfuelmma 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Why do we work hard and build ourselves to achieve our goals?

To be happy.

But if you look around you'll see countless number of people sacrificing their happiness to work hard and build themselves to achieve their goals. They are in effect slaves to the society. Don't be like those sheeple, don't be slaves.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah, it's the old protestant work ethic that has been ingrained in our culture for centuries, much to the benefit of the capitalist elites. It's stupid and a lot of developed nations have figured out a better quality of life. Americans are just fucking brainwashed about working hard, long hours whilst bragging about not taking vacation/sick days. Assuming you even have that many to begin with

[–]monkey_typist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agree, and achieving your goals and working hard can be stressful. Everyone have their ways of dealing with stress. If partying scratches that itch, then go for it. I'm with the OP, I don't see anything wrong with it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hard work in things you enjoy is one thing, but for most, hard work at the office or the factory is just a means to an end. The calvinist, protestant work ethic ingrained in our society is really overrated, and the tireless proponents of it are misguided. Some nations in Europe have allowed for 32 hour work weeks with a minimal pay decrease, with government mandated vacation time of 3 or more weeks, usually with businesses offering more. Basically what i'm saying is the US work ethic is unnecessary and ultimately pointless. We grind 40-80 hour weeks depending on the vocation, often sitting idly due to downtime. I dunno, the hard work it takes on the job is hardly something I consider valuable. It's a means to an end that's it. Now if you have an occupation you love that's great, but the vast majority of people find work to be more routine than anything

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I finally found this type of balance. I focus mostly on work/family/school during the week, and perform live music a couple nights a week/weekend as my socializing. The pressure of performing removes the pressure to drink, since I'm focused on my set, and it's incredibly fun and fulfilling, and nets tons of social validation. Basically my hobby is creative, social, fun, and also gets me paid! (Sometimes just drinks/food, sometimes tips, sometimes venue pays).

I'd say there is a lot of value in a social hobby like this. The only thing I can think of being even better would be fitness, then become a trainer. Get health, fun, fulfillment, money, and attractiveness. I think I found a good spot for a guy like me that isn't naturally inclined toward athleticism. I may not be the most in-shape guy in the place, but having all eyes on you, tons of public compliments, and venue owners publicly schmoozing you brings your SMV way up in most settings. Being 6'5 and taller than most guys in the place, height being accentuated by being on a stage helps too...

I recently separated from my wife for a sixth month period, and taking my music seriously helped me swallow the red pill big time. The experience is constantly reinforcing red pill values in me. For me, being an honorable husband, it's not a tool to get laid, but to constantly remind me there are many more women out there (abundance), and that I'm still valuable. Helps you maintain perspective in a marriage! And the wife, despite verbal protests, is always very happy to see me when I return home (and anxious to please), and finds me super attractive because of it (she's not socially outgoing and doesn't quite understand it.) also, it's makes dread game incredibly easy when they're seeing pics of you rocking shows with crowds of young people. I've learned to deflect all of those questions and just let the hamster spin. Never admit or deny anything.

This sub has changed my life. I have A LONG way to go, but it's just help me put so much of my day-to-day into perspective. Sorry I'm done ranting now.

[–]MyLittlePonyofDoom 33 points33 points [recovered]

I see a lot of this here, dudes claiming that alcohol = low value. Well guess what, in places where alcohol is imbibed there are women who are inclined to talk to you and maybe have sex. Whoever thought!!!

There are probably sociable guys right now who don't lift drinking and talking to chicks who will get laid because they are fun dudes to be around with.

[–]AutisticusMaximus 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I remember your last post man.

Funny related story, I had facebook for years, for staying in touch with people, but never posted anything really.

I got out of an LTR with a 30 year old (I'm 31), she told me: "I can't wait for you to marry me, if you don't grow up, go find some 20 year old and date her"

She meant this as some sort of ultimatum, I said "ok" and fucked off.

Got obsessed with fitness, read up on TRP among other things, did exactly what she told me, and started posting on facebook.

The very day I posted a picture of me and my 21 year old friend, ex blocked me on facebook, and it escalated from there from my male "friends" too, guys who didn't post much up until now.

I post a picture of me and two of my girlfriends born in '95 in a tent at a festival, they post a shitload of photos of them playing with their kids.

I post a candid shot of me doing some writing while my girlfriend tries out outfits in the backround, her flat belly visible, they post themselves with their chubby wifes and lines "The IMPORTANT things in life!!!"

It's like a pissing contest, only I'm not competing with anyone, just standing at the urinal doing my thing, while they stand next to me, shitting their pants instead of pissing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I assume you're just living off your revenge fantasy. If you truly DGAF, you've hard nexted her, but you're still seeing her posts, that means you care about what she thinks, even if you want her to envy you or whatever. I would find a way to get over her while fucking these 20 something chicks, because maybe someday you will ran out of plates for a while (happens to the best of us) and your brain will try to drive you back to her. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it, anyway that's my 2 cents, good luck amigo.

[–]AutisticusMaximus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply, she went no contact and I didn't care, these posts are from my guy friends, unrelated to her. But I understand where you are coming from, there's a bit of revenge porn in my actions.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Interesting perspective.

Taking offense to some of us saying we have better things to do than getting drunk. Ultimately, if you want to, go ahead. You'll learn eventually.

In 1989 I was 19. Got stationed in Frankfurt Germany. The beer is very good in that area, not like the pisswasser we have in the states. You live mostly by the laws of the host country, so 17 is legal on base. I was going through two cases of beer a week for a while. Doesn't sound like much in Bud Light, but in 1L bottles with triple the alcohol content of us crap, I was drunk almost every night after work. I was spending a lot of money on beer, money that could've gone into something far more tangible. I figured that out in the first 9 months.

Later I had friends who had been in the Navy. They had nothing to show for their time in. I had two paid for cars, a house full of furniture, a kick ass stereo, some guns, and a big box of tools. The Navy guys would spend every cent in port on alcohol, and lived on the ship so they had no place to store anything. They started from zero when they got out, I had already built some of my life that I still have today.

Sure you can still be partying at 50, you can get drunk all weekend, you can chase tail like you did in college. Unless you're some kind of high function alcoholic investment banker, you will have pissed away a fortune in taxes on alcohol.

You can start building your life now, or you can blow through everything you earn at the moment and give it to the government in taxes, only to start later. The cost to make ethanol is very low, but the price of whiskey is very high, that's because the government taxes the hell out of it. Simple economics man.

Was I all work and no play? Let's see, instead of drinking I got in a car or on a train and traveled Europe. Then I got on a plane and saw more of the world. I even jumped out of planes for fun, since my military job didn't include it on a normal basis. I've built 700hp street cars, I own a bunch of things to have fun, like 4x4 trucks, drag cars and street machines, rifles, computers, cameras, and I fuck hot girls half my age. I've been fucking 20 somethings since I was 17.

My whole life has been about having fun, financing what I want to do with my jobs. The difference between me and the party/bar crowd is that I wanted something tangible left over from the fun along with great memories from all over the planet. I'm 47 and have yet to grow up. I spend my life doing the things I wanted to do ever since I was 12 or 13. Build fast cars, fuck cute girls, fly rc aircraft, shoot big guns, travel the world, lift heavy shit, not lose fights if someone fucks with me, and yeah I game online in the evenings to relax. Games have become amazing compared to 1981.

I'm the biggest kid you will ever meet, but I don't waste my life. I'm always doing what I want our working towards that goal. If you want to party your life away, go for it. It's what you want. I'm not judging you for not wanting to build anything lasting. It's your life, I'm busy with mine.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I mean this with zero snark: if you are living this life, why are you even posting on / interested in TRP?

Let's be honest, this place is for people trying to climb out of hell for the most part. If you are traveling the world and fucking young sluts, it sounds like you don't really need TRP anymore, if you ever did.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Notice the black banner? I'm here to help you guys, so maybe the next generation week not fuck up as badly as X had. My fucking peers suck, and they were shitty parents to your generation.

I know how it works, and I have time to read and post. Occasionally I'll read something that reminds me that I need to address a certain aspect of my life. Otherwise I'm here to provide guidance. It's the same thing I tried to do for my kids, and what I did for my subordinates when I was an NCO. The time I spend taking a shit every day is the time I spend on trp. I'm crapping in a 5 gallon bucket in the woods right now, writing to you on my tablet with my cell service connection. Yeah, really. This is a rather wonderful life, high tech and low tech resulting in a low stress very fulfilling life.

[–]king_of_red_alphas 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Good for you man. Giving back to the world is in short supply these days in any form.

Most people stop with "I got mine" and the are content to sit back and talk about how great they are and spout platitudes to others who are struggling.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll never be rich nor famous, infamous perhaps, but I realized a few years ago that my life is an example. It's both inspirational and a warning, don't make my mistakes, but continue to get back up and fight against anything holding you back. I've achieved more than most, but have little to show for it. I'd rather others avoid the losses and have more to show for achievement.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Three years ago I needed this place. Not to learn how, but to discover that I wasn't wrong being who I am. Society has tried to make us believe that being like me is a very bad thing. So I was trying to be someone else, it doesn't work, and coming here let me know that I was doing it right by being the real me.

That's also why I support it. So others like me can see that they're not wrong, not a horrible man, and that life isn't about them, its about us.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 11 points12 points  (16 children)


I'm 55 years and if my body holds up I'm looking for a Trifecta weekend with Two Liters of German Beer (or more) per day Friday, Saturday and Sunday with it ending with Polka dancing for a few hours.

That's if my body holds up...

I've tried this before and made it one day and had to call it quits. (three liters or more and I'm done)

A man gets old and his body can't do what it once could do but the mind still wants to party.

Wish the weather was going to be better... cloudy forecast.


[–]Polishrifle 2 points3 points  (10 children)

This is the worst part of getting old. The mind is willing, but the body is becoming spongey and bruised.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (9 children)

I ride my bike every day and that keeps me in pretty good shape because I'm not ripping my muscles too much so I recover well.

The biggest problem with aging is recovery time.

For a young guy you can lift heavy weights and make those microscopic rips in your muscles and they repair almost instantly and your muscle grows.

As you age if you make those micro rips they just create fatigue and if you push further you just make it worse.

Cycling is aerobic, so you work your oxygen, but don't build muscle.

Unfortunately cyclists don't bulk up... so visually it's not the best move, but at 55 years old I don't need to look boyishly muscular.

No woman looks at me and thinks:

"Wow, he's a hot young stud."

...but with all the girls with "Daddy Issues" these days if you play the role of the James Bond older guy they dig that. (single mothers seem the most attracted to the daddy image... "please save me from all my past bad decisions"... they think)


[–]Polishrifle 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Definitely agree with you. I'm only 30, but I noticed my recovery time taking a lot longer than when I was in my 20's.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Chuckle... wait until 40.

Up to 40 things aren't so bad, but then from 40 and beyond your whole thinking revolves around recovery time.

This is why athletes tend to retire around this time.


[–]IDefyAxioms 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This shit is fucking depressing.

I'm killing myself at 40. If your body is this bad, what's even the point of living?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are given one body which you should preserve in health as best you can as long as you can.

Eternity is the larger consciousness... in death you get an infinite amount of eternity.

Time is a measure of the change in physical position of things in the material dimension. (things like earth rotation)

There is no time in death.

To live is to know time... aging gives a measuring stick of our time.

I'm pretty accepting of it by now. (wasn't at all when I was 35)


[–]Polishrifle 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah man I'd imagine it's only going to get worse from here, which sucks. I'm pretty happy with my gains now though. 450lbs 1RM squat and 500lbs 1RM deadlift. I'd like to get them higher, but I'd be happy with doing reps of 315 when I'm in my 40's to keep things moving.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sounds really impressive.

I wish I had my youth again but wouldn't want my youthful stupidity back.

"Youth is wasted on the young."


[–]Polishrifle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like it, but I'm 6'3 and I weight 275lbs. I'm probably 25% body fat too. I'm big, but that only attracts a certain niche of women: Mostly really big fat women, but often times I will get a little petite thing that THINKS she's fat and I get to rail that. Those don't come around too often.

[–]UsedToEatSardines 1 points1 points [recovered]

So in your 50's when looks fade you are only game-dependent?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's mostly mental past a certain age.

What is weird is when you are out in public and the usual "has been" women are orbiting you and then one who is waaaaaaay too young and cute strikes up an interest.

How does one respond?

She's used to every guy falling for her, so if I make any move she "scores" the validation and moves on.

Huge age differences are tricky and something I haven't mastered yet.


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[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's roughly a six pack.

My maximum for two days recently was 8 liters (4 six packs) and it took me a few days to recover from that.

I'm 55 years old... I can't absorb the punishment that I could as a kid.


[–]MyLittlePonyofDoom 0 points0 points [recovered]

What's the alcohol content of the beer? Can you switch to lower content to keep the party going?

This post is a salutory lesson that if you'll never party as hard as in your 20s but you can still have fun even if it does require leather leederhosen.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got mine for $50 (lederhosen) by buying online in winter. The item normally runs $150 online and more like $200 retail.

Yeah... age slows you down... it gets harder to party more than 5 hours, but on a good day I can go non-stop for 10 hours.

Avoid the "Double Bock" beers because they have double the alcohol.

Standard is about 4%-5%.

Double is about 7%-9%... but I've had beer at 25%.


[–]Sonos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

fucking white male

Anyone who says this, this isnt the sub for them.

[–]razormachine 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Dude you should party as long as you feel like partying.

I'm in my 30's, I don't feel like partying every week, however when I do feel like it I fucking party!

[–]Battle-Scars 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Don't be to concerned with the moralizing comments, half of it is jealousy/fear and the other half is well, reddit. If you want to drink whiskey, play video games, shoot heroin, fuck donkeys, or whatever, for a year or a decade, do it. You are responsible for your decisions good and bad.

[–]greatslyfer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes but I think the important thing to take away here that should be thought about when partying or doing 'x' action is being honest with yourself on whether this action is truly good for you.

Yes, playing video games and partying is fun, but deep down is it really affecting you in other areas of your life such as your career?
If no, have fun.
If yes, stop living in denial/rationalizing your lack of action in areas that need action right now such as work.

[–]1DRMMR76 8 points9 points  (6 children)

The hilarious thing about this thread is the fact that OP was himself saying that people who don't want to party and get wasted all the time were sexless losers and betas. OP was doing the exact same fucking thing as he's now decrying. This entire thread is just his attempt to get a few pats on the back because he got butthurt for being called out.

[–]ATrashMan 0 points1 point  (3 children)

i think you are reading way too far into it. i think the point of this thread is "do what YOU want to do, fuck the haters."

[–]1DRMMR76 2 points3 points  (2 children)

And I'm pointing out that the OP of this very thread, posted another one like a week ago where the premise was "If you don't spend some time being a party animal, getting high and drunk, you're a sexless loser".

[–]ATrashMan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

ahhh yeah that is pretty weak

[–]StumpinToVictory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is lying, that is not what happened at all, he was spreading his neckbeard nonsense and provoked others into attacking him. Just look at how far he has gone to trash the OP and spam this thread with his horrible posts, the guy is full of shit.

[–]StumpinToVictory -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Everyone, this man is telling a lie, go back and read the thread, he specifically said he doesn't look down on those who decide not to chase the lifestyle in the OP.

The guy never said that, I read the thread. The guy said that if some guys may need to party for a bit to get it out of their systems and the few (including you by the way) who spammed the thread about working on motorcycles, reading books, and lifting instead of partying were mocked for being sexless losers.

Thread never said anything was wrong with that, it just talked about why some people might need to party a bit before moving on. The problem was other users like this annoying liar who went around mocking people who want to party by saying that their goals are worthless to their life.

Do not let this liar come off as the voice of reason here.

[–]1DRMMR76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, he did say those things.

[–]angryuser_trp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dude, your party lifestyle ain't interesting. I wouldn't find it interesting back when I was 20, let alone at 30+. What was the goal of your post? You start off in defensive position and say nothing of interest that your lifestyle is giving you. And instead of an unraveling ending, you finish the post in a defensive hyperbole, and not a particularly good one either.

None of it is telling me much about you, except that you seem to not have much going in life apart from the drinking, living it up and fucking the occasional basic bitch.

I see alpha traits in your successes. Yet you speak of none.

[–]Boss_Monkey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Is OP looking for a safe space?

[–]rubrikTaco 13 points14 points  (1 child)

There's a flipside: telling anyone that doesn't want to get wasted with you every weekend to "live a little" or "enjoy life." Bitch, I enjoy life the way I want to enjoy life. If you want to spend your weekends hungover, worrying about what your stupid, drunk ass did the night before, be my guest, but don't try to guilt trip me into joining your stupidity. I'll party when I want to party, where I want to, and exactly as much or as little as I want. My schedule is the only one I give a shit about.

Way too many guys try to live the "alpha lifestyle" by imitating the Jersey Shore. Fuck off, kids.

[–]1DRMMR76 7 points8 points  (0 children)

try to guilt trip me into joining your stupidity

OPs other thread was exactly that. Guilt tripping others into doing what he enjoys and calling them sexless losers if they don't.

[–]wadebarlow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I like how Joe Rogan puts it, "everything in moderation, including moderation. "

[–]DontBeFredo 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Maybe I'm an anomaly, but I'm 27, work at a nice consulting firm, make 200k+, work 13 hours a day, and still party a fuck ton in my free time - spending $$$, getting wasted, waking up hungover, the whole 9 yards.

My point being that anyone who falls on either side of the spectrum's extremes - partying all the time versus no partying and gaining a "marketable" skill - AND believes their ideology is "right", is simply misguided.

I really do believe that most people don't understand how much time 24 hours is - if you want to party and lead a successful career, unless you are absolutely awful at time management, it is 100% possible.

If you have friends or women that tell you you need to settle down, and you're genuinely happy with looking at yourself in the mirror every day, you need to get a new social circle.

Regarding the detriment to your health, I mean yeah...boozing and partying while operating on minimal sleep isn't the optimal way to live until your 95. If you have an addictive personality, or are horrible at disciplining yourself while you're out (drinking 15 drinks, then shoveling pizza in your mouth because you're drunk and hungry), it's probably for the best to take it easy.

I guess my ultimate point is that this topic is an extremely case by case scenario. If you accept the premise that in life we need to find some way to maximize fulfillment or happiness, and partying helps you achieve that without providing insufferable consequences, you should go on your jolly old way. On the flip side, if you are against partying because you don't enjoy it or have some physical reason that makes it a stupid decision, don't do it.

[–]MyLittlePonyofDoom 8 points8 points [recovered]

You should write a post on this lifestyle.

[–]rubrikTaco 8 points9 points  (2 children)

No, he shouldn't. Working 13 hours per day is not a lifestyle - that's called slavery. I happen to be the same age, making the same (or slightly higher) hourly wage, with the opportunity to work as much or as little hours as I want. I'll take my 9-5 and four-eight weeks off per year, thank you very much.

[–]DontBeFredo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a salary; I don't work on wage. Many people who make much more than me in the same firm work much shorter days. It's a lifestyle I am perfectly fine with - have fun with your life, however.

[–]Magnum256[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the most important thing in life is balance. Having a good balance of interests and not letting one thing consume your existence is generally a good way to live, regardless of what your assorted interests actually are.

You can be a video gamer, but it doesn't mean you have to let yourself become a fat, pale, virgin in the process. You can be a bodybuilder/powerlifter without fitting the "meathead" stereotype, you can go out and meet women and have sex without being a manwhore or "player", and you can go out and drink or use drugs on occasion without being an alcoholic or a junkie. It's all about balance.

I couldn't care less if someone in his 40s likes to go out on Friday or Saturday night and get drunk, if he's functional for the rest of the week and his outlet is to go get shitfaced once in awhile then so be it, all the power to him.

Unfortunately I don't think this is a popular opinion - people like to be judgmental and feel like they're superior to others, it validates their choices and position in life to be able to say "You shouldn't be doing that because that's not what I would do" and it makes people feel extremely good to believe they're in a position to judge in that manner.

I don't care what you do, get drunk, get some stupid tattoos, learn to ride a motorcycle, go have meaningless sex, its your life, just try not to hurt yourself or anyone else along the way, and try to balance the good with the bad, the destructive with the beneficial.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just do whatever the hell you want, I've partied like hell in my teens and nowadays I honestly can't stand it. I refuse to attend raves and festivals. It's just dumb rehashed shit for me. But that's me.

Personally I missed out on having the money to wear cool clothes and ride a bike. So that's what I'm doing right now. I know guys who got their motorcycle at the age of 18 and I'm doing it now at the age of 24. Big deal.

You simply can't do everything in your teens. Whatever order you picked, just do whatever you want. I know guys who used to be your dumb jock type and are now dabbling in intellectual stuff because they feel they are smarter for it.

Don't let other people define you and your life.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really think the quality of posts from guys trying to drop RP bombs has went way down. 90% of those that make new posts should just be reading and asking questions.

The understanding of what RP is and means was far higher two years ago IMO

A few people have tried to shame me but most were shut down by others. Not that I care much.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do what you want, I sincerely believe that we as men are meant to have a wide variety of experiences-- party up, make mistakes, fuck up, to learn and grow.

This subreddit is full of angry sheep that think they're lions, so you would be wise to be skeptical.

Having said that, the real OG... the oldtimers that are 30-50+, they have some solid advice. They've been there done that, and partied harder than you most likely, and their wisdom is what fills the sidebar of TRP.

You as a man have only so much time on this earth, whether you're spending time participating in hedonism or self improvement there is an opportunity cost involved. I have found self-improvement, meditation and introspection much more fulfilling and everlasting than indulging in mindless hedonism. for the sake of it. My little nugget of experience for day, do with it what you will.

[–]hypnotica420x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jeez op, did ur man period show up today? Go get some self esteem and quit bitching

[–]aherne18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is feminism on reverse. Try this version: "Men who judge and attack women their age trying to live a partying/hedonistic lifestyle are just omega rejects". Sounds familiar?

Men are not all the same. Women are not all the same either. We have very different genetic-driven destinies and some freedom to play around with our genes for better or worse. Women are sluts today because it's fashionable and very easy to be a slut. Men, on the other hand, especially those on the "bad" side of logarithmic attraction curve WISH they would be drowning in pussy (because pussy is for them something hard to achieve). Alpha males, guess what, don't even understand your problems because for them women are like disposable items in the supermarket.

Moral degeneracy is a disease that affects both men and women today and terribly downgrades the quality of relationships (incl. sexual ones). Your purpose as a man isn't to fuck as many women, but to have one that had zero N count, adores you and brings you a good number of healthy children. We are animals, and that's what animals do: spread their genes and don't act like disgusting degenerates...

[–]diego4848 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Amen to that! I think a lot of what I have learned here is about being real with myself. If I feel like banging sluts and getting wasted until I'm 65 years old, then so be it. It is important not to succumb to social conditioning and actually thinking that after some age you are supposed to act in a certain way is nothing but that.

In fact I'm 27 and have been BP my whole life so of course I will be doing what I never did before for some years. First putting into practice what I'm learning here, then getting good at it and then enjoying life.

If other people think I will be an asshole for being more than 30 and doing that, well I just say that IDGAF. As long as I am happy and I'm not hurting others, it's all good. We have to learn to accept that in the end we are all just trying to be happy and live our lives the best we can, therefore we are no one to judge others.

[–]blackedoutfast 4 points5 points  (0 children)

for 99% of these guys, it's all about the feels and male hamstering. they're all just rationalizing their own approach avoidance. if you go out and start interacting with other people and approaching girls, there's a chance you'll get blown the fuck out by some chick. it's much safer to just sit at home alone because you'll never get rejected by a philosophy book.

a guy who sits at home playing video games and smoking weed is clearly a beta loser who is afraid of women. but a guy who sits at home reading books about the civil war and drinking fine scotch is clearly the epitome of the red pill

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So no criticism allowed no matter what you do? OK then, welcome to Zootopia where every fat virgin beta cuck has the right to feel like a true alpha.

[–]powerwinch 10 points11 points  (30 children)

Eh I view the party lifestyle as degenerate and unfulfilling, some men think otherwise, I simply don't care what those guys have to say. I think they do indeed live degenerate lives but that's where it ends, I don't give a single extra thought to them beyond that, I don't care what they do, I don't care if they're offended by me, and frankly they shouldn't care either about how I feel.

[–]sicknick -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Nah, you simply dismiss the party lifestyle because its the one thing you can't do. Nobody who parties all the time is offended by your opinion but I'll call you out. You are probably super intelligent but you lack social skills and people don't like you instantly, work on that.

[–]Yourstruly777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im in my 40s and partying does get old. Shrug, even getting drunk gets old.

If I get smashed now all I think about is the wasted sun/mon/tue for six hours of sat fun. Plus it destroys the mind, body and the gains.

I had that insatiable urge to get smashed and chase tail. Once a week. Had it for like 20 years. Now that I don't, I feel genuine life relief.

[–]powerwinch 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I can do it, I choose not to, for both religious and secular reasons.

I'll pay you 20 rupees to teach me social skills.

[–]1nonthaki 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Many guys who say "Grow up and marry someone" are already married and want us to suffer just like them so that we know what they go through . I say , fuck them .

[–]thelaptopliquidator 5 points6 points  (5 children)

There are legitimate reasons to advise against (over) partying.

Alcohol is a health concern (and a gains concern). Time spent partying could be spent doing work or lifting, etc. Going to clubs/bars often tends to get expensive.

It's not the same for every person. If you're 30 (or 90) and otherwise live frugally and spend your money wisely and are on track with a good career, then I'm drawing blanks as to why you shouldn't party every now and then, if you like to party.

Of course, time spent working is better than time spent partying, but people aren't machines, and wasting time is acceptable, as long as you moderate that.

If you're 30 and working at stop and shop all your free time should be spent on learning a marketable and employable skill, and I'll sort of sneer at you for having such shitty priorities and time management skills.

I've never been much for parties. Part of is it is that I'm a salesman, so I'm forced to spend a lot of time interacting with people, being charming, making friends, networking.

You should see me when I'm not working. Charisma of a rattlesnake. A lot of salespeople are like this. The life of the party at the conference/convention is just so tired of people that any attempt to talk to us outside of work will be met with grunts and dirty looks. (Unless you're a cute girl, little switch goes on, time to stop grunting and use words again).

Also, keep in mind, parties are not the only ways to get women. Yes it may be the easiest, but some guys really, really, don't like them and are totally fine to just do cold approach instead, and are in good enough shape and have good enough game that we don't have to party to do well.

To summarize: Going to parties just to get women is stupid, because you can women while doing stuff you want to do, so only go if you enjoying parties.

Overall, let people do what they want. If a guy likes to party and you don't, coming down on him without knowing his circumstances? Why? And vice versa*

[–]Bred_Alpha 3 points3 points [recovered]

it is about enjoying that adrenaline fueled good time with other people, not getting laid

[–]thelaptopliquidator 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Just because you have a good time at parties does not mean everyone else does.

I personally don't like most people. I tend to be one of those guys that is either best buds with people, or simply has no interest in them. And I don't get an adrenaline rush from them.

So I don't have a good time with other people. So the only draw is the quick and easy lays- which was my point 'If you don't like to party, there are other ways to get laid, so don't bother going'

I get an adrenaline rush from closing sales, so I'll stick to what I like to do, and you're free to do what you like to do

"The issue here is, we have a lot of scholarly guys on TRP who look down on the Hugh Hefners, Dan Bilzerians, and Leonardo DiCaprios of the world or those that aspire to be like them."

Meh, if someone looks down on others because they do/do not like to party, they're a fucking loser and you should just disregard their opinions.

[–]Bred_Alpha 3 points3 points [recovered]

True, but it is when those opinions of "wtf you still party!?" flood up the threads that it gets annoying.

[–]thelaptopliquidator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Focus on the good shit, the useful posts, the smart users.

Apply this to your life as well.

Trash is beneath you and not worth your time, or worth worrying about

[–]nemaxofredpillreveng 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Bros....if there is anything I can recommend it would be: "Party On, Dude".

Trust me...when you get into your 30s....partying until 3-4am is way harder than it was when I was 21.

Live it up but remember to be about business when not on "play time".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Late 20s here and a Saturday till sunrise fucks me up until Wednesday.

[–]nemaxofredpillreveng 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. Now, if I just go out and have like 3 beers...I gotta pump full of advil the next day and chuck a bunch of water. Nice to be a cheaper date but damn I can't hang anymore.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I party until 11pm!! The parties may be different, but fun is still there to be had

[–]Bred_Alpha -1 points-1 points [recovered]

Fuck that, I am gonna part it up in my 30s.

[–]1DRMMR76 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I'm sure you'll be in prison long before that.

[–]StumpinToVictory -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Rooting for dude to be in prison? What kind of bitch shit is that.

[–]1DRMMR76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have an odd(read: wrong) definition of "rooting".

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The biggest gift of the RP is the understanding that YOU control YOUR OWN DAMN LIFE. Figure this shit out for yourself. Bluepill is conforming to societies idea of who you're supposed to be. Be exactly who you want to be. You don't owe anyone anything.

[–]chaseemall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there's one thing I've picked up from The Red Pill, it's that enjoying yourself is not evil.

Enjoying yourself with a woman is a good and right thing to do, because you are a man. This is what you were born to do.

Celebration, sometimes to excess, is also a good thing to do. Man is a joyful being and should celebrate his existence.

Pleasure is good. Don't subscribe to blue pill moralism. It's all malarkey

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where the fuck are these parties that 30-year-olds go to? All the people my age are married and/or boring and would rather play video games... Yes, I work with people like that. They sit at home and play video games every night.

[–]mdcrubengonza 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I've always been hesitant on telling folks to stop doing what they want to do, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Doing lines of coke, fucking whores and smoking weed for the comedown is about the most fun someone can have for under $250.

I live a life of abstinence now. I know full well I can spiral out of control easily.

[–]RedPillWintergreen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dunno, man. My 50-something alcoholic, henpecked neighbor once tried to invite himself to go bar hopping with me. I quickly evaded but my point is that you don't want to be THAT guy.

[–]Data_Mining_Machine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I've been an avid practitioner of the game for about ten years now. Started reading the game at 18, partied throughout college, have had several relationships of varying length. Now I'm 28, got out of a long relationship about a year ago, and I've been partying ever since. A lot of my friends have forced themselves into relationships they clearly don't want to be in so they can say they're not 30 and single. Honestly, I have to say -- I really appreciate this post. Sometimes I worry I'm weird for not wanting to settle down at my age, especially when I hear from all my friends "we're too old for the bar" "you can't party forever" "don't you want to settle down?". I'm not saying I want to throw a kegger and drink until my liver is broken, but no I don't want to settle down. Is it so wrong to want to continue going out, experiencing life, meeting new people? I'm glad to see there are others out there like me. It's honestly a huge relief. I don't know if I'll ever get this out of my system and I think that's okay. Cheers

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing wrong with that. I'm 25 and before TRP, I used to worry about being single when I'm 30, due to pressure from society. I currently live with 3 roommates, 2 have girlfriends and one might commit to some chick soon.

Right now, I'm just focused on doing well at the job I have been at for 6 months. I will approach women I'm interested in, but not going out of my way.

I'm sure at some point, I will hear people asking me why I don't settle down. I will just tell them "I haven't found someone worth committing to."

I would rather experience life than be stuck with kids and a nagging wife. I don't even want kids. Maybe a dog or two.

[–]iopq 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm 30 years old. If I say I want to date someone that's 22 years old then people come out of the woodwork to tell me that I should look for someone that has the same kind of "life experience" I have.

But last girl I met up with was 28 and she didn't have any kind of "life experience" or wisdom or any kind of knowledge. But that's okay, because she's dumb at 28. If she were 22, then it wouldn't be okay, apparently.

[–]ston3cold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any experience measured by time is utter bullshit. You don't gain experience because time goes by. Time goes by anyway. You gain experience by doing shit. But society likes to dish out approval just because of time. That's all some post-wall women can claim as a plus: "I got old."

I try to live without much expectations, but I just can't deal with people who should've gained some insight and experience by their current age but haven't. The way I see it that a 22 yo may have that potential, but at 28+ that potential should have been realized. They may both be equally worthless, but only the older one has proven it. I learned early on that age is a really weak proxy for maturity or wisdom or such.

[–]Areu4realm8 0 points1 point  (1 child)

never tell people your preferences. just tell them you cant control who you fall for and continue fucking only the best

[–]iopq 0 points1 point  (0 children)

kind of hard, since OKCupid literally puts your preferred age range on your profile

[–]DarkOmen597 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I attend a lot of social events for work.

I always attend birthdays.

I go to a bar alone and enjoy a few drinks once a month.

Im also a working professional in his 30s.

Balance is important.

[–]B0KAM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People are always trying to push you into the little box which matches their description of you (so that their bullshit little reality makes sense and they don't have to question their beliefs). You have to constatnly be aware of this, in order to pretty much be constantly pushing against this "perception" pressure, unless of course you surround yourself with highly conscious individuals.

Thanks OP.

[–]grngr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Comply comply comply comply you filthy male.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grow up, man up. Nothing more than shaming from both sides. Fuck that.

[–]bigcitytruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You'll rarely find a successful, high-SMV man partying it up night after night well into middle age. It has nothing to do with attitude. It has to do with hangovers and lack of sleep. The hangovers hit you like a truck after a certain age. Only a few noted exceptions have livers made of iron. The rest of us mere mortals have to refuse that fifth Jager-bomb. The lack of sleep affects performance at work and for other pursuits.

Aside from that, nightclubs and bars have the trampiest, sluttiest women. Quality women are found in other places, earlier in the day.

The occasional night club romp is ok. I found the earlier the better -- less men, nearly all women. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

[–]MyLittleAtomBomb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think this is because two separate "redpill" movements seem to be emerging simultaneously and are seeking control over each other.

Our teachings here are about women and how they work, primarily. How their sexual strategy operates and originates. You can see glimpses into the inner-working of society at whole from this paradigm, but it is largely irrelevant to our purposes.

The other "redpill" movement is dealing with culture and society and race and whatever the fuck else.

The other "redpill" movement would seek to emphasize the importance of the nuclear family and a strong nation. This would necessitate men "stepping up to the plate" so to say. The issue is, as most men here are aware, there are very few women with whom that is at all possible. The problem is getting worse and worse as time goes on. The guys who want to "fix" western civilization must realize that would involve taking one for the team and wifeing these whores up and doing our best to impose positive values and raise good children...after our generation has already taken one for the team by inheriting ostensibly the worst situation possible in terms of gender dynamics ever.

I have no plans to ever "settle down" with a woman. It's a fucking worthless proposition these days.

[–]Avskygod0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The secret is, all the redpills are one thing, but divided. People are attacked on all fronts, race included unfortunately

[–]1StuttBuffer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is kind of wierd, now that I think about it, how people notice patterns in how people tend to change as they reach certain ages, and then they turn around and dictate that everyone ought to be adopting certain lifestyles at a certain age. Yeah most 35 year olds don't party all the time, but to rag on somebody for doing it; there must be some underlying insecurity there. There is no roadmap for life.

[–]nrafield 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People just love to find reasons to shit on each other in order to pad their ego. You should not let them get to you

[–]George_Rockwell 1 point2 points  (1 child)


Hedonists like you are destroying society and are the reason why I stopped browsing this subreddit in the first place.

[–]I_do_it4sloots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

go read some philosophy and live your boring life without telling then

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As Steve Hughes puts it: "eat ya shit!"

[–]RedShock1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just social conditioning. Fuck what people think

[–]noaydi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So everyone can follow their proper unconscious/conscious goal. This is a cool thread.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real issue at hand here is self control. I don't believe anyone, myself included, looks down on drinking/partying from time to time. It's fun as hell - especially when you're high value. The real issue is that a shitton of people can't control the balance between doing it sparingly enough to maintain that value and getting caught up in the scene to where it really starts to impact you.

Look I have struggled with it at times in my own past - so I'm no preacher - but I do realize that too much drinking and partying will lead to weight gain, wasting money, missing work (or at least lethargy at work), social faux-pas that lose you respect in the eyes of your peers, etc.

So I say party on, but learn your limits and adhere to them religiously because it's way too easy to fall victim to the scene.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


Some people think this guy needs to "grow up." I say it looks like he's living an awesome life.

[–]goldnhorde 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude ... I don't know who told you to "Grow Up" .... but making your own decisions ... and taking full responsibility for the consequences of those decisions and actions .. that's it. I don't see much more to being grown up. you want to party and can ... party on, Wayne. there is a lot of life advice that is left here at TRP and a good portion of it should stay here and never see the light of reality. it is however, for those reminders of what the real world is that there is a ton of value here.

[–]piquete91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post. This is a place to learn from each other - everyone has a different story that's just as deep, interesting, and beneficial as anyone else here. Sure, advice is good, but when you are telling someone how to live it just screams uncertainty about your own lifestyle.


Why rush it? Everyone grows into something everyday. If you can't find something interesting or something to take away from another's experience, that's on you.

Again, great post. This community should be, and for me mostly is, about helping each other with insights and love, whether it be tough, genuine, frank, whatever. But it comes from a place of caring for others who are trying to accept the real world.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generally, one is always going to have detractors, regardless of their motivations and regardless of one's path in life. One could be a monk living in a monastery and find that they still have enemies somewhere. That the pseudo-aggression should take place online is nothing new under the sun.

With this ilk, their motivations are varied. Maybe they're jealous of this lifestyle they criticize. Maybe they genuinely want to help due to their own personal philosophy of what it is to be redpilled. Maybe they find this lifestyle truly distasteful, and can't help but announce that. Maybe they're here to do the feminists' work and cleanse this place as they so direly want.

Maybe they're just out to AMOG.

Whatever their motivations, no one has the power to stop Dan Bilzerian from being Dan Bilzerian. Even if this power to instantly change one's perspective did exist, it sure as shit isn't going to happen through some pissy comment on Reddit. We are human and our faults are many, but I would hope that in a place of blunt self-improvement, they can get past trying to police others in an empty attempt to score internet cred, and start concentrating on themselves. The rules are clear. TRP is a toolbox. Keep your morality to your goddamn self and stay in your own lane.

[–]Avskygod0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, there are many types of people with many types of personalities

I'm not the partying type of guy, i find most parties to be boring, but i'm not going to talk shit on someone who is the partying type, because i am a real human bean and not a female

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sing me a song, you're a singer Do me a wrong, you're a bringer of evil The devil is never a maker The less that you give, you're a taker So it's on and on and on, it's heaven and hell Oh well The lover of life's not a sinner The ending is just a beginner The closer you get to the meaning The sooner you'll know that you're dreaming So it's on and on and on, oh it's on and on and on It goes on and on and on, Heaven and Hell I can tell Fool, fool

[–]ManOfGrapes 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I mean any way you look at it, the lifestyle is physically detrimental. If you're serious about the gym, you can't expect to party all the time.

Having said that, an excellent compromise: host the damn party. Since you have to take care of logistics like setting up, making sure the booze is flowing and that people don't shit on your rug, there isn't a ton of time to pound shots. It's a great way to socialize and essentially get free pussy without destroying your health.

[–]thelaptopliquidator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seriously terrible advice. You really want a bunch of drunk people in your home breaking and stealing your shit?

I hope you like cleaning.

I hosted poker nights with the guys I do business with maybe 5-10 all male, all 50+ people and STILL ended up cleaning for hours afterwards.

I can only imagine the pain and suffering that is cleaning up after a rager full of drunk 20 somethings.

[–]12_f_taiwan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, yes! Cut your balls off and be hedonistic degenerate, goy. Just remember: don't marry and don't have children. Fuck your legacy. You don't need that responsibility.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maximizing pleasure in your life is strong.

Living intensely, having fun, etc. is good.

You don't win points for refraining from pleasure. Seriously, study the Jewish Kabalah or successful people in general.

No one cares that you were a Good Boy who stayed in on Friday night instead of hitting the bars.

Live life to the fullest in every way. Work hard, play hard.

Young people who hate partying are usually losers. It must be done in balance, but it's not that hard to keep balance.

The Blue Pill is for pussies.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn straight OP. Men should do whatever they like at whatever age they like. It is never too late to have a happy childhood...

[–]PabloEscoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Concern trolls & shamers should be banned from this sub

[–]hamstercide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's just virgins and assburgers writing that kind of stuff. Not everyone on TRP is sexually successful - if they were, they wouldn't be here!

[–]Areu4realm8 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

who gives a shit what bluepillers think on your lifestyle, seriously. just pat those morons in the head, and tell them their advice is the smartest thing ever.

[–]waldo888 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gawd damn I need to grow the fuck up!

[–]Temperfuelmma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For me partying is a release.

It builds up and eventually I explode. Then I get crazy, I go on a rampage. I call up all my buds, I fuck with cops. I break things, I jump from heights. I dance, I burn things, I punch people, I call up my old teachers from high school and go "you're gonna suffer" and hang up. I run for no reason. And after everything is done I stare at myself on a mirror and then fall asleep. It feels good to let your animalistic moronic side out.

It's degenerative, dangerous, stupid and it's better to stay away from that lifestyle.