Donald Trump's statement is really more about women being whores than him being a sexual predator (self.TheRedPill)

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"grab her pussy"

Even in the conversation, he himself expressed disbelief at the fact that women would let him do that to them. It's not like he's doing that and they try to push him away or get mad. He's shocked himself that they let him do it because he's a star. I'm sure a lot of famous guys/powerful guys have experienced that themselves. Women around them become extremely sexually submissive and would let them go way out of social boundaries with them even within the first few minutes of meeting. As a man, I have personally experienced it myself and it's a huge turn on to know that a girl would submit to me like that.

So to me, Trump's statement is really more about the fact that women are whores and would sexually submit to alpha men easily than it is a statement about how he's a creep.

[–]bigcitytruth 70 points71 points  (16 children)

Tip: don't talk about the Trump hot mic scandal with others. Remember the 48 Laws of Power, "Think what you wish, act like others."

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[–]Truthordare2016 46 points47 points  (5 children)

He was having a private conversation. What the media did to him is no different than if reddit released the personal info and account info of everyone here. Saying Trump fucked up is the same thing as saying we all fucked up with every private talk or anonymous thought posted.

it was a pathetically desperate attempt to derail his campaign. Why? Because they are scared of him because he doesnt follow the narritive and wont be controlled by them. In other words..... Because he is an alpha male.

I dont know about you guys but I dont want to be in a world where I have to "Think what you wish, act like others." all the damn time. This is literally the bullshit Orwelle and others warned us about before. The era of the thought police is here.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

EXACTLY. Also, the email scandal proves that the government is knee deep in corruption and Trump would expose that. Wikileaks exposes emails showing that Hillary Clinton has accepted money from Saudi Arabia through her Clinton Foundation and KNEW, that they are funding ISIS.

[–]Truthordare2016 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To be fair that was old news. The media buried it really deep and its great that the leaks helped bring it to the publics attention, but those dots had been connected before. All that email does, if anything, is to help establish a more concrete timeframe.

[–]ChrisBenRoy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Isn't that in a loose way similar to how Hulk Hogan got over on Gawker? They were recording him without his permission?

[–]jcrpta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's an untold story there. Gawker did something to piss off a lawyer (google for Charles Harder), who has since made it his life's work to destroy them.

Which meant Hogan got quality legal representation at a knock-down price.

[–]omega_dawg93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so, you agree with the hot mic that caught mitt romney... or not?

[–]allnamesfckintaken 5 points6 points  (0 children)

the funniest part is how billy bush acted after they got off the bus. trump didnt even want to hug her and bush told him to do it. then later on as they walk, bush stayed behind them. i'm not quite sure what his motive was but he was definitely reacting to that fact.

[–]Idfsupporter 102 points103 points  (28 children)

It was proven right after by Dan Blizerian. He posted a picture to Instagram grabbing some models pussy

[–]FredWeedMax 58 points59 points  (10 children)

I mean he proved it just with his blog posts, this was just him showing that trump isn't bullshitting when he said that, but if you follow bilzerian just a little bit you know the truth, it's not even "they let you do it" it's "they encourage you to do it" because they want to be your preferred fuck doll or w/e for dem $$$

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Dan Bilzerian's instagram that if you have enough money, status, fame, good looks, and all that, women will literally do almost anything for you sexually.

Slight nsfw pic of Dan getting haircut: http://i.imgur.com/aFQz2uA.jpg

[–]the_calibre_cat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yeah, but to just lay it all out there, for, for the public to just... to just... hear like that, man, I dunno.

[–]Idfsupporter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess we shouldn't tell the public where babies come from because it might be too much

[–]allnamesfckintaken 24 points25 points  (3 children)

it's not just money. women feel compelled to sexually submit to men with power. it's deep in their genetics. i was in a similar situation and i couldnt even believe it. at first i just laid my hands on her innocently but she didn't react badly to it and i kept pushing it and she just let me. this is literally a girl i just met in a group and i honestly did not even know her name yet. she just knew me as someone of very high value. it was surreal for me. the entire time before that i had only dated girls on my level and i always felt restricted by social conventions and if i fell out of it, there would be consequences. with that girl, it was like none of it existed.

[–]plein_old 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if i fell out of it, there would be consequences. with that girl, it was like none of it existed.

Yeah, just see the recent discussion about BPD. Sometimes there are consequences, just different ones than you expect.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. All about power looks and money

[–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I agree with OP and am on Trump's side, but I don't think that model on his Instagram is some random woman. They know each other and where playing around. She's also seen on other pictures with him.

[–]Idfsupporter 5 points6 points  (3 children)

But how many girls can you call up and say hey lets take a picture of me grabbing your pussy and post it to Instagram? And how many girls can Dan call

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If I had his money (or more correctly, his dad's money), I could call up a lot of girls, too! You have to be stupid to believe that a dozen girls just show up to his house because he's so "alpha". They are either looking for (a) a network effect for being featured on his Instragram; or (b) being strait up paid by him to be featured in his photos.

[–]Idfsupporter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some may be paid while many others will be clawing at the opportunity to party with him be it for whatever reason they have.

[–][deleted] 77 points78 points  (12 children)

All Trump said was ..." women allow me to do nasty things to them cause I'm rich. "

Says more about them than him.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Exactly, Trump never said that he does these things. He literally said that when your famous, they LET you do anything.

[–]Spoopsnloops 6 points7 points  (4 children)

How do you explain the part where he said "I don't even wait"? To me, as much as I've tried to defend what Trump said, that part basically makes him look bad, imo.

Like, what isn't he waiting for? Consent? He just goes for it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I explain it by saying context is important. You assume he doesn't wait for consent like anything done without a woman's verbal okay is rape.

Or it could be that he doesn't wait to get to know her, or go on a date like some other beta chump.

Who knows who is right. The point is that every situation is different and all the man did was say words. He could have said that he raped Hillary in the asshole and unless he actually did it then it's just words.

Acting like his words are the same as sexual assault ( especially when you don't even know the context of the situations he speaks of) when not a single person even complained about this shit until recently is stupid.

If the man was really going around grabbing bitches by the pussy left and right do you really think this would be the first we are hearing about it?

Wake the fuck up man and stop being a beta faggot.

[–]Spoopsnloops 3 points4 points  (1 child)

While context is important, there is also a lot that you're inferring based on things he didn't actually say.

Similarly, words aren't always just words. Words can also be tantamount to a confession.

Besides, the context is more visibly fitting for confessing to something like sexual assault than not, tbh. And the fact that women came forward at all (and there have been instances in the past as well) lends credence to the notion that what he did was basically make a "confession."

So what you're doing is basically assuming things same as others.

Imo, you might need to wake the fuck up. All I did was ask a simple question on how to sidle past a technicality when arguing this particular issue. But clearly you can't supply a reasonable response other than just saying "infer what you want."

Well, yeah, no shit I can infer what I want, dumb ass. So can others. Doesn't necessarily mean that I'm right or they're right.

[–]accounted_for 277 points277 points [recovered]

What's happening now is women are coming forward as "victims".

When they hear that trump has some sort of sexual scandal surrounding him, their ears perk up like a dog's. They can't fucking wait to be a part of this nonsense.


I'd bet my left nut that these kind of stories played out very differently at the time. I'd also bet that none of these bitches felt like a victim when the famous billionaire was paying attention to them back in the 80s.

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[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Thats a troll account, for anyone that doesnt know.

[–]TheBlessedFaggot -1 points0 points  (6 children)

This actually came out or you're guessing they'll say that?

EDIT: It's just a question, you downvoting phaggots.

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[–]recon_johnny 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Says the actual faggot worried about downvotes.

[–]TheBlessedFaggot 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Did you just call me a faggot?

[–]TheRealMewt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes you were called a faggot. Stop acting like a faggot, faggot.

[–][deleted] 169 points170 points  (26 children)

That's why I don't buy it when a half dozen women show up 20 years later to say they were assaulted.

Bitch no you wasn't. What happened is you were a whore and fucked someone famous at the time. And now that you are over the hill you want the attention you used to get when you were younger.

The first question anyone should ask any of these types is , "Did you report it to police? No? Ok you can be ignored now".

[–]PinkySlayer 70 points71 points  (2 children)

Another example of common fucking sense being decried as victim blaming. Surely she felt unable to report her voluntary orgy with the billionaire because of rape culture, duh!

[–]ramaga 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The first question anyone should ask any of these types is , "Did you report it to police? No? Ok you can be ignored now".

You're 100 percent right. I thought this just this morning as I read a New York Times article about the women who have come out of the woodwork alleging Trump sexually assaulted them. If you did not report the alleged assault to the police at the time it occurred, then why in the world should anyone believe you now? Maybe these women were assaulted, but the fact they did not report it at the time makes it far more likely they are lying and are coming forward now simply to seek the spotlight. The fact the Times and other newspapers are reporting these women's allegations as if they are established facts is disgusting, and I say that as someone who is not a huge fan of Trump's. I used to work as a newspaper reporter, and the lack of journalistic ethics being displayed by the Times and others is shocking to me. I guess the Times is so concerned Trump might win that it will stop at nothing to discredit him.

[–]omega_dawg93 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I bet you believed 100℅ of the women who accused bill cosby... right?

[–]stawek 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Any woman who ever met him can now stand up and say "he was hitting on me in a rude way, but I turned him down cause I could do better than him".

This is what they are all doing: bragging that they are better than a billionaire presidential candidate, very likely the next president.

If any man ever said "oh, Scarlett Johanssen was hitting on me back 10 years ago, but I refused cause I could do better" we would all instantly recognize it as bullshit.

Edit: they are purely virtue signalling "I am such a good and virtuous woman, that I wouldn't let even a famous billionaire touch me without at least 3 dinner dates"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some women abhor Donald Trump on principle.

[–]Havikz 26 points27 points  (1 child)

People will say that Trump supporters are hypocritical for pushing Bill's victims so hard, but they fail to realize that Bill's victims have been loud for two decades. I'm insanely skeptical of any claim of sexual or physical assault whenever there is a heavy political onus, or when there's a sudden surge of several people "coming out" at the same time.

[–]goldnhorde 13 points14 points  (0 children)

well, when one woman comes out against a famous or rich man .... then you get more.

And I hate to say it because we all know there are real victims, but when it comes like this , it is just plain suspect and suspicious behavior. even when they tell their stories, it becomes a huge vagueness.

but the "seal the deal" line is always "It is because of her bravery in coming forward that I was able to face my past and accept that I must also come forward today."

it is as predictable as someone dying and some jackass saying "our hopes and prayers are with them today."

and the worst part is that people WANT it to be true. I will point to the Duke Lacrosse incident. People WANT IT to be true to the point of ignoring any type of logic.

[–]Magnum256[🍰] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

They probably only feel like victims now because they realize they traded their bodies for a tiny bit of access to fame and status. At the time they were probably happy to do it and live in the moment, but years later they likely ended up living regular boring lives and in hindsight realize that their youthful promiscuity didn't earn them anything in the long run and now they're bitter.

[–]landon042 32 points33 points  (5 children)

THIS hahaha i lold when that old bitch said that on CNN earlier

years and years ago she knows she was lucky as fuck to be in a billionaires presence, that's all I could think about while laughing at these false statements. CNN is comedy channel for me.

also it's funny as shit to watch that old grandma hamster hard

[–]Twist3dNippl3s 13 points14 points  (1 child)

CNN will soon replace Cartoon Network

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yep. Cartoon Network News. CNN.

[–]Spidertech500 24 points24 points [recovered]

It's comedy until looking at a woman is rape

[–]goldnhorde 3 points4 points  (0 children)


First, I would like to say that two women have slapped me in my lifetime, and I would like it put on their record now as assault. obviously the timeframe is horrible, but it happened, there were witnesses, I can still name the witnesses, those witnesses still remember the incident, and while they may spend no time, I want it on their record to show their activities, form their reputation today, and in case they assault someone else in the future, we all know it was not a one time, spur of the moment thing, and that they in fact have a history of violence.

But this comment above made me think to myself .... hey .... this is the way to back alley get some burkas on some ladies. You keep pressing this whole issue until "looking at a woman is rape", then one guy logically stands up and says, "then the only solution is for you all to wear things that guarantee that WHEN we look at you ... there is no sexual element that can possibly be derived" .....

.... get ready to wear a lot of sheets, ladies. you are going to love Sharia Law.

[–]allnamesfckintaken 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i think every guy that's powerful/famous is shaking their heads right now because they know trump is 100% correct. they experience it every day of their lives.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I bet Donald will offer them "double what the clintons paid" and these women might take his offer.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Those stories are obviously fake.

[–]rossiFan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd also bet that none of these bitches felt like a victim when the famous billionaire was paying attention to them back in the 80s.

Definitely not. Quite the contrary - they bragged about it and were revered by their "peers" (fellow gold-diggers).

[–]Dravous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd also bet that none of these bitches felt like a victim when the famous billionaire was paying attention to them back in the 80s.

they don't feel like it now either, they just want to feel relevant again.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same thing with Cosby. All those women willingly came to meet him and hang out with him, do drugs, and have sex. Once they felt like a gigantic whore for the fact, they played the victim card and many would sue knowing there was a payday at the end of it. Cosby settled because it's cheaper to settle than to fight it. No a shit ton of years later all the other whores come out of the woodwork to claim victimhood and sue for money as well knowing he just might settle with them as well. This is why he admitted to giving them drugs, because they wanted the drugs and he supplied it, however they gloss past the fact that all those women willingingly did the drugs, he didn't spike anyone's drinks, why should he? He's a fucking star and can get pussy whenever he likes.

Just watch, it's only a matter of time before one of Trumps whores files a lawsuit instead of filing criminal charges, the testament to a money grab.

[–]useyourmouth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They may be victims...but victims of Hillary Clinton blackmailing them into coming forward and making these allegations now.

[–]voomer53 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's happening now is women are coming forward as "victims".

When they hear that trump has some sort of sexual scandal surrounding him, their ears perk up like a dog's. They can't fucking wait to be a part of this nonsense.

It's the female herd mentality..safety in numbers. Like when they all go to the bathroom together.

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure Bill Burr covered this topic exactly when discussing Arnold Schwaz hooking up with his housekeeper. video Women want you to make the first move. Rich and good looking? Yes, they will let you make the first move, or in more crude terms "grab them by the pussy."

[–]JackGetsIt 130 points131 points  (35 children)

This nuance is completely lost on basically everyone covering the story.

Many years ago I had a best friend that groped a girlfriend of mine in the car on a road trip without my knowledge; I was in the car as well. She told me two days later. My immediate reaction was, "why the hell didn't you make a scene?" Her response to that was basically blaming me for the whole incident. Which was really a mind fuck for me at the time. How is it MY fault that my friend groped you? And how am I suppose to do anything if you don't confront him at the time of the incident or at the very least inform someone at the time of the incident?? (I would later learn that everything bad is basically my fault)

The bottom line is it's never a women's fault. Period. That's the narrative. The media would never cross this narrative except in blatant examples of women raping and murdering and even those cases are often disputed.

So in the trump case it's assumed the advance was un-provoked. Women that openly submit their genitals to powerful men is too raw and incomprehensible to the general populace. Even if there was a video of the girl lifting her skirt and saying 'touch my pussy you powerful man' the media would spin it as, 'she was coerced' into the act.

This is gynocentrism at its highest form.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 57 points58 points  (16 children)

This nuance is completely lost on basically everyone covering the story.

And to make a larger point more germane to TRP (and Trump is an entertaining ass who can fuck off or not):

The bottom line is it's never a women's fault. Period. That's the narrative.

This is a rock bottom TRP truth that is not in the sidebar as explicitly as it should be. It is perhaps too subtle.

Guys, it is ALWAYS your fault. Don't fight it, make it right. Women are children, they will never take responsibility for their actions.

[–]FredWeedMax 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I mean your last sentence is in the sidebar, woman is the most educated children in the house, and what do children do ? Point fingers at others when they get caught

[–]antariusz 20 points21 points  (1 child)

There are legitimately women that view pornography as rape. Or misogyny, or whatever.

Which is pretty much exactly what you describe, including the bad dialogue and lifting up of the skirt.

[–]Truthordare2016 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Wow, watching porn is rape. Thats a new one even for me.

I could see a really pure, old fashioned, virgin gf/fiance (like those exist anymore lol) consider it cheating.... But even that is pushing it. Rape?

Fucking femmies man.

[–]Breggsit2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It wasn't your fault that your sex-case mate groped someone, but it wasn't the girls fault either. Guess who's to blame? Your pal. Why does he get off scot-free in your story?

[–]JackGetsIt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I didn't mean to imply it was her fault either (although it certainly could have been encouraged by her but I couldn't tell). The short story is I never confronted him because I basically told her I was going to go kick his ass without asking any questions. She immediately begged me not to do that and it was basically dropped from there because she back peddled and said it wasn't a big deal, Which also didn't make sense because she brought it up in the first place. I was too young to understand the situation anyway. No redpill back then and I was a bit oblivious. I think looking back on it they were probably both in on it and she was just trying to test my reaction and see what she could get me to do...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It isn't lost at all, they're just feigning stupidity knowing others will be stupid enough to fall for it.

[–]RichKingOfBangmar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're quite right. The true nature of women was known to the Hebrew people at least as far back as when Genesis was written.

All ancient societies of note has ways of handling women's true nature1. The Hebrews didn't, so they repressed it with force. All parts of the world that were shaped by Abrahamic religion now suffer for it, not only because it stamped out indigenous traditions for handling unruly women (more) effectively, but also because repression forged craftier, more subtle women.

1 Sacred prostitution, regular prostitution, wife selling, ritual combat, polygyny...

[–]playingwithfyre 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Gonna need some stories of this nuclear hamster you were fucking, sounds like there should be plenty.

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She was BPD to the max. I missed all the signs and she had almost all of them (talking about childhood abuse on the first date, too sexual too fast, played the damsel in distress card all the time, constant irrational fear of cheating, etc. etc.). I regret not having someone teach me all the warning signs when I was a young man.

[–]allnamesfckintaken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i mean, try a sexual advance on any woman who doesnt want it. they'll go crazy. when that guy groped your girl, she probably felt it was morally wrong and socially inappropriate but she was probably attracted to him and felt compelled to let him do it.

women gotta choose, either they're fragile petals that need to be protected ie they get to be the victim in every situation or they're strong powerful leaders that deserve to be on leadership positions and high paying jobs in which they, they should take personal responsibility for their actions. they can't have it both ways.

[–]-Bonobo- 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Even if there was a video of the girl lifting her skirt and saying 'touch my pussy you powerful man' the media would spin it as, 'she was coerced' into the act.

This is gynocentrism at its highest form.

No it's called internalized sexism you fucking white male. Women who would do that are mentally damaged children who are incapable of making their own decisions. It's up to feminism to make women's decisions for them. If you disagree then you hate women. /s

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the re-education. Possibly a camp like system can be established for men that don't understand?

Newspeak is the new official language...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Trump should have released the mounds of evidence he has showing women begging to be objectified by him

[–]Truthordare2016 9 points10 points  (1 child)

But that would be mosogynisticccccc....... All those tit shots and nude selfies are private!

But a man touching a woman without resistance in private..... Or a private man talk between two buddies.... That shit needs to be public knowledge!

[–]the_calibre_cat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Behold, the double standard in play.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (2 children)

There a story I posses that's similar to that personal anecdote. Except it's wasn't me per se. I had just met another university student &; we were hanging out at his off campus dorm. He then proceeded to introduce me to one of his roommates-- a wealthy Philippine girl with a British accent.

Upon meeting her the first thing out of her mouth(lol) was this conversation with her friend: had nothing to do with me whatsoever.

"...Uh hey, the other night..I think one of your friends put his penis in my mouth while I was sleeping." -No explanation-

Him- Uh, yea okay I'll try not to let that happen again.

Me- "....Uh, nice to meet you."


[–]JackGetsIt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

LOL. There was probably some more back story to that situation that you weren't privy too.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was pretty weird. I literally had no words. I poured a glass of orange juice & I completely ignored it.

[–]swagpuffynipz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

blatant examples of women raping and murdering and even those cases are often disputed.

Yep. Then they just say "oh, well she was clinically insane." "she was off her meds" etc. It's amazing that society paints women as godlike figures.

[–]ioncloud9 72 points73 points  (3 children)

The timing of this is too politically convenient. Now for the next few weeks before the election there will be a string of women "coming forward" saying he sexually harassed them decades ago.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

And they will all suddenly fall off the radar after Hillary wins. Mission accomplished

[–]throwaway320_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This story came out hours after new emails were leaked through Wikileaks.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

great investment for Hillary! and she knows it will work especially in this country.

[–]Magnum256[🍰] 32 points33 points  (2 children)

I don't think it has anything to do with men being predators or women being whores, it just is what it is. It has to do with the power dynamic that typically favors men over women (although it can exist with famous women who might seduce regular/average fans or admirers as well.)

Trump said nothing wrong, he was just stating facts. People are attracted to power, wealth, and fame. It doesn't matter if it's a 24 year old star athlete or a 70 year old corporate billionaire, there is going to be a line of hot young women wanting to fuck either one of them for different reasons. No one thinks twice when they hear about drugged out rockstars fucking their groupies, and Trump fucking (or trying to fuck) one of his female admirers isn't any different.

It's shocking to me that the public seemed to react so strongly to this when I thought it was fairly common knowledge that people are attracted to status and would trade sex for access to some small bit of said status.

If I was an old billionaire I'd be grabbing pussies too and any women that didn't want their pussy grabbed would just get replaced by ones that didn't mind. Why would I surround myself with women that didn't want to have sex with me? It would by lunacy.

[–]Theophagist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it just is what it is.

The fact that women are whores certainly is what it is.

[–]BestSC86 73 points74 points  (4 children)

Not important.....what matters is getting the sexual predator President's wife elected to the Presidency.

Does not really matter what Trump did or said.....getting Hillary elected is job #1...you know Hillary, the woman who sat around for years while her husband was sexually harrassing numerous women across Arkansas and DC in every way possible...and then when he would get in trouble for it....she would full jihad against his victims and lead the lynch mob to destroy the women whom outed old Bill.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 16 points17 points  (2 children)

It paid off, she's about to become the president.

[–]harveyspecterrr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In the words of Kevin Spacey "Give and take, welcome to Washington."

[–]kagetsuki23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no she don't! accepting these claims of abuse of trump is accepting the claims of bill as a rapist. and the fact she protected a rapist, and oppressed his victims make her guilty.

[–]phx-au 55 points56 points  (10 children)

I fucking love the selective quoting that is part of every report on this:

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.

And when you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.

That sentence in bold? Not quoted. The word let? Definitely not quoted.

Why? It destroys the victim narrative. It turns that entire transcript from:

As a rich guy I can sexually assault who I want.


As a rich guy, women will consent to anything.

Obviously hyperbole, but I'm sure that fat orange cunt has shat on the chest of more than his fair share of 9/10 women in his time.

And still kinda disgusting. I'm kinda disgusted (but not surprised) that women will stoop to someone that repulsive in both looks and personality because he's got money, and women want to be disgusted. If he's a disgusting creep, then they don't need to think about how they aren't attractive enough for him - it's a much easier internal narrative to deal with.

Half sour grapes, half being disgusted with themselves, because they know if they could they'd probably ride that for a chance at dat alimony.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The more these things happen, the more I believe it's less a Women are victims Narrative and more a Blame the men narrative.

Trump's words were indeed a comment of his surprise at how women would let a famous man do anything he wants. Any rational person would see it, it's so obvious. But in the media it was understood as "Trump assaults women".

The same thing happened to Roosh and his "How to stop rape" article, which was misconstrued in "Roosh is a rapist".

"Women are victims" and "blame the men" are really two faces of the same coin, but note in the two examples that the focus was heavily on the perpetrator and not on the victims. Did we rush to find who were Trump's and Roosh's alleged victims so that we could give them some support? No it was a matter of blaming the man, nothing more. The Narrative is a modern witch hunt. And heterosexual white males are the witch.

[–]fangh39 16 points17 points  (2 children)

This is the most bizarre aspect of the story for me. We all know what was said. We all have the transcript.

Whatever you think about the lewdness is immaterial. Trump says "they let you do it." He affirms that the women consented to his conduct.

Despite that the anti-trumpers just keep repeating the "sexual assault" and "without consent" memes. The truth doesn't even matter to them. The fact that we can know the truth doesn't matter to them.

[–]TheRedStoic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, that's another whole social failing. People don't fact check and won't look into anything that doesn't explicitly support their narrative.

They just focus their echo chamber to emit a dull roar.

[–]1lurkingtacopiller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had someone tell me that the word 'let' doesn't imply consent so that's what we're dealing with.

[–]Truthordare2016 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Somebody hasnt finished swallowing the red pill yet.

Looks are important, but its more about muscle and fitness. Donald doesnt look particularly muscular but he's tall and fit, certainly better than the average man today.

Personality is important.... And Donald has a great one. Very alpha. He speaks his mind and has the ambition to and drive to work for what he wants. Not to be condescending dude but whining about girls liking him, using terms like disguisting to describe him, then movking his hair/skin/whatever by calling him orange is extremely beta.

Then there's status, I wont bother explaining that.

So yeah.... His appearance may not be up to par with the male porn stars and supermodels of today, but he hits the other two checkboxes big time. Its no wonder women would be attracted to him.

Say what you want about the extramaritial affairs, but dont shit on him for how he looks (especially stuff like hair/skin color that is beyond his control) or for having an alpha personality.

And yeah, its really telling how that bolded statement hasnt appeared in the MSM yet.

[–]Bum_Ruckus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol he can definitely control getting his spray tan color.... Your point is valid about it not mattering to his alpha status but yes the dude is an ugly 70 year old and he STILL manages to be alpha.... Uphill battle that he easily wins. I think original post was just saying how that is more impressive than if he was a younger good looking guy.

[–]phx-au 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah he's doing better than I'm likely to at any stage in my life. He's got the arrogance/assertiveness alpha qualities.

Should he be upheld as an example of rp? Sure.

Should he be upheld as a role model? That's more doubtful. Give almost any arrogant cunt a few billion dollars to lose on random shit, and they'll end up in the same position.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But they can't pretend he sexually assaults women if they print that.

This is main stream news for you folks. Think what we want you to think.

[–]Solpig 27 points27 points [recovered]

"Grabbed my cock"

In the 90's, my Band was playing a huge event in Huntington Beach. Even thought my band was headlining big clubs, I still had a day Job framing Houses in Hollywood. I had a Boss who was a total dick to me. He came to the show with his smoking hot girlfriend. She got me alone in a hallway and literally shoved her hand down my pants and grabbed my cock. I was so shocked (and happy!) that I didn't know what to do or say.

PS I didn't think I got assaulted. My first instinct wasn't to report it... it was to follow up on it LOL

[–]Truthordare2016 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well according to the cucks at the 2nd debate you were assaulted, just a notch below full on rape.

But had you reported that, I bet everyone except the boss would've laughed at you until the cows came home.

[–]bowie747 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I was baffled when I learnt that with women it matters more who says it, than what is said. Chad and I can say the same thing and receive markedly different results.

In contrast to speaking to men where what is said matters more than the context ie A man will respond in a similar way to two very different men if they say the same thing.

[–]WhitePhillip 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've often had beta schlubs ask me "How do you get away with touching and talking to girls the way you do? And in front of each other!"

Because I have a different set of boundaries. I'm charming, sexy, and in demand. Women would rather share a winner than have a loser. Yes some of the girls I flirt with have boyfriends or husbands, but they get their tingles in the 3 minutes I pay attention to them.

[–]BigGreezy270 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is exactly the point that needs to be made; Trump clearly said that women submit to him and let him do this because of his money/status.

[–]undercovergamer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's always dangerous to pull back the beef curtain and reveal the truth.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What struck me about the tape was the slight tone of incredulity in his voice. It was... familiar.

When a woman is convinced you're a super-alpha (whether it's "true" or not, it's all perception anyway), then your work is done, they are good to go. They will, as he says, let you get away with anything.

And you feel slightly incredulous. Like, "holy shit, are they really this shallow?".

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course that is what he meant but this society does not want to hear it. The feminist propaganda machine is in hyperdrive. The progressives have won the battle and now the west is lost to them. Things will never change back for the better. Now the gynocracy is running any trashy little story that any woman peddles out. Bill Clinton stuck a cigar up an intern's cunt yet that smug bitch Hillary supported him, now she has the gall to act indignant about some banter between two guys.

[–]wcwe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As a woman, I took zero offense to his comment. It's no different than when women talk about having a man by the balls, basically meaning that he will do anything for her, and women DO talk about things like that! How is Trump's statement any different? Obviously many women will bend over backwards for him solely because he is a billionaire. That reflects more negatively on their character than his in my opinion.

[–]TyrannyVengeance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The irony: when anecdotal evidence creates an outcry from the masses in anger, it ceases to be anecdotal.

[–]dotte11 2 points3 points  (2 children)

This is why I tell guys that pick up - especially aggressive pickup is some stupid shit. Its not worth it in 2016

[–]allnamesfckintaken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it would be insane to do that to women if you are just an average guy doing pickup. you must have implied value somehow. they must know who you are and have power you have long before you approach them.

[–]1FunAndFreedom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's never been necessary, at least not recently. Get in the top 10%, go to Tinder, have as much sex as you want.

[–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was more social commentary than him bragging.

[–]hermit087 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its funny, people are saying "Donald didn't have consent". Not only did he have consent, he had a level of consent beyond what the average man will every experience in his life.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 3 points4 points  (4 children)

trump started stating red pill facts, but a mic was on, and media is in the bag for Hillary and desperate for anything to go on.

[–]adultman2 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Many of you are missing the point and also using reframing strategies just like women.

To be clear, Donald does approach women like an alpha, "grabbing them by the pussy" and so on. He literally is assaulting women because he approaches like a caveman and takes what he wants. He treats them like shit, objects that he can grab. Pun intended.

Can we deny this? No we can't. That's a cold hart fact.

Everyone here is angry about the "consent" part, stating that Donald never raped anyone. Again cold hard fact, but women don't even discuss that narrative as it doesn't suit their framing, just like you discussing WITHOUT the consent part doesn't suit your narrative.

So to make a long story short. Donald does assault women because when you ask a woman how they want to be approached, I'm pretty sure most won't say they wan't to be taken by an alpha and grabbed by the pussy but rather approached nicely and treated with respect.

So what the conclusion here is? They're all whores indeed, OP was right. They will trade their dignity, 2016 strong woman indentity for a man worth enough. But this DOES not change the fact that most do no want to be approached this way and handled this way since MOST men are not worth that much.

[–]allnamesfckintaken 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's only assault if the girl doesnt allow it. if she does, it's being assertive and they love it.

[–]Turambar96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ones who are 'letting'him do this, DO want him to approach them this way, not some 'Hi, do you want to maybe grab a coffee with me sometime' way.

[–]mojoduck 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Funny thing my mom said the other day. "Don't all men talk like that?" And I said yup, all men are pigs. And she is like "see, it not a big deal." Neither of us voting for Trump but they are blowing this shit out of proportion.

[–]nutnics 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Why does this statement still get used? What does it even mean? How is a man a "pig" if he wants to have sex with a woman? Is a woman made of dirt and he wants to wallow in it? To me this statement is so weird. I've never understood how a man is always deemed to fouler of the species for exhibiting his natural desires.

[–]BrodyKraut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dirtier the better my friend.

[–]Frontfart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women love money and power.

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah the funny thing is he said that they let him, but then they spun it as assault. This is assault if you go by the affirmative consent "may I kiss you?" standard which no one actually practices

But I have to say that it was a pretty strong move politically. Most women are buying it. What else are they going to do?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anything that sheds light on objective reality with women will be treated with hostility. In 2016 women thrive on fantasies which they push as reality. Trump's statement was completely true in the sense he admitted they 'let him' do it, which means they didn't object. Every woman knows this is how they'd behave next to a famous billionaire. Instead of agreeing with him and recognizing their nature, they demonize him. Their own fear which is generated from their lack of self control turned outward; a denial of reality aka the hamster.

[–]HangisLife 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Simply stating how women act when you're famous doesn't make you red pill.

If you go to a Division 1 school, you can literally see women throw themselves on ugly athletes every weekend at the bars and we know it's because of their hypergamous nature.

Stop trying to make the Donald seem like some deity. He took the girl furniture shopping and failed to pull. End of.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Sure, lots of women are sexually open and willing and maybe even submissive around powerful men, and sexually attractive men, and men they take fancy in any one of a number of ways. And guess what -- many men are sexually promiscuous around women they take fancy to, as well, while others are a bit more reserved.

Now, get ready for me to blow your mind: there's nothing wrong with either extreme, because different people have different libidos and preferences, and modern society has generally agreed to be and let be w.r.t. sexual tastes.

But here's what there is something wrong with: he moving in "like a bitch" and getting shut down by a married woman while your wife is pregnant, again and again, and then bragging about it. Yeah, anyone who does that, billionaire or plumber, has broken several core rules of trust in just about any social circle there is.

So sorry to bust the circle jerk, but he dun real bad no matter how you turn it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So... that's assault? Because the phrase "sexual assault" keeps getting tossed around.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

shrug that's a debate I've had many a times, not really the place for it. I don't think Donald assaults women in a way that law enforcement is justified in punishing. perhaps put him a public sexual aggressor list, but no punishment.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't mistake acquiescence with consent. It's less to do with his stardom, than his position of authority and power over these women. For example, the woman he kissed in the elevator. She basically worked for him. What are you going to do, slap him and complain to HR? You acquiesce out of fear of losing your job. I very much doubt she was gushing in the elevator after his advances. She said she was extremely uncomfortable, during and after, the incident.

[–]newName543456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course it is. But liberal establishment is known to grasp at straws just to smear anyone they don't like.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, he does. More so than Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush and Rubio.

[–]1nonthaki 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now many bitches will come forward claiming he raped or touched them inappropriately , because , they want a piece of the publicity this election is producing . Frankly , even if he raped them , they should have complained before & not at this moment (Maybe Clinton might be funding them) .

[–]scarletspider3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The guys that are outraged and calling it 'sexual assault', are revealing their beta mind set. They just can't even fathom that women will be thrilled that a rich, famous, and powerful man would want to touch them. It would be the story that they'll tell all their friends for the rest of their lives.

The females that are outraged are just shit testing us. They don't want the beta's to know that women will easily give it up to a powerful man.

[–]HoScience 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Not really, it just sounded like he was overexaggerating the shit he can do. Sure he can get away with some shit, probably in private women who know his reputation will succumb easily, especially whores who want to get promitions.

But when there's other women around it's very dangerous to go all in on just one since all the others who were "skipped over" will start acting disgusted to gain the social high ground over you.

Unless every single woman in a place adores you, it's rather dangerous to go full rambo since one might react like a mother at a festival who calls the singer a "disgusting predator" because all the girls throw themselves at him.

Trump lives too much off of other people's validation. He always wants to be seen as the #1 guy, and comes over super tryhard in doing so. He exaggerates a lot, lies a lot, and says a ton of things that he never does, nor could do. This seems like a case of both.

[–]sorad792 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Lol exactly, when Anderson Cooper started framing it as "bragging about sexually assaulting women" I was so confused.

I was just thinking, wasn't Trump just jokingly using hyperbole to make his point that status helps him get with girls?

[–]Oakwood2317 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Nah, Trump's statements lead me to believe he has made numerous unwanted advances towards women. People get star struck even when celebrities aren't grabbing their genitals; it's entirely within the realm of possibility that women grabbed by Trump simply don't know how to react. His statements about young children are even more troubling. Stop defending Trump....he's trash.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I wonder why the media doesn't mention his friendship with Epstein now that could be a good scandal! under age girls.

[–]PaulMurrayCbr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. People will come to realize that, and there'll be blowback on the "Aha! He admitted to being a sexual predator!" crowd.

[–]2IVIaskerade 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You're right, but here's the thing - it won't matter in the long run. The left is trying their damnedest to stop Trump, but they don't realise that they're dealing with someone who really is a Dark Triad personality. He doesn't care, and so they have no power over him.

[–]daveofmars 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wasn't the left that did it though; it was the Never Trump neocons. Hillary wasn't going to go there at all because of Bill's past.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I call bullshit on the donald pulling tail like that.

I think he was just trying to brag. But ended that bragging by saying "oh I can't. She's married. Not gonna do it."

Uhhuh. Right. Some player.

Usain bolt pulls in 4 blondes a night after a gold medal. Rock stars. Rappers. World Series players. World Cup players. Olympians. Superbowl. Saudis. Billionaires.

Rich. Powerful/Famous men can pull if they tried because there are women out there that will throw their pussy at these dudes.

But still. Donald was probably not pulling like that at 60. Grain of salt.

That said, the dems realize it's not sticking since Bill Clinton still exists. (Actions > words). So now they need to ahem, trump up some chicks that are willing to say what they want them to say.

Will probably backfire as well.

[–]stawek 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Remember he was a millionaire from very young age. Somebody of his confidence and worth was probably slaying left and right in his prime age.

[–]Truthordare2016 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Somebody hasnt seen his wife

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You do realize this guy has been a billionaire for 2 if not 3 decades. Has been to the Playboy mansion parties and when he was single, around beautiful women a lot. He has probably pulled more tail in 10 years earlier in his life, than many guys can do in their life. Not just that, but the quality of women he gets are way higher

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Earlier in his life - correct.

But not when he was 60. Which is why I call bullshit on the most recent lady.

[–]TheBlessedFaggot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you experience that?

[–]dotte11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well look how its working for him.

[–]Stonish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A bit out of topic but what are the chances of Donald winning? Im not from the US but his person is interesting and I wonder how americans perceive him. So Donald or Hillary? Is it 50/50? ?

[–]0kool74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is true. let channing tatum go around groping and chicks will line up to throw drinks and snacks at him!

[–]Hjalmbere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the hubbub around Trump's locker room talk is just part of the war on masculinity. It's gotten so far that private conversations can be used to ruin your career. If Hillary wins it will become even worse.

[–]ghee99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

exactly, his whole point is that when you're a star women LET you grab their pussies.

This sort of awareness, and honesty, and not backing down to the blue pill media is why I love Trump so much.

I'd vote against ANYONE who ran against Hillary, but it will be a pleasure to vote for Donald on November 8th

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every media outlet has spent the last year looking for dirt on Trump and all they can find is an 11 year old remark about how whores act like whores around powerful men.

The dude must be a fucking saint. I'm sure you could find shit on me that's way, WAY worse, in just the past week.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"grab her pussy"

You left off the beginning: "She'll let you grab her pussy."

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