Red Pill TheoryShe's not yours, it's just your turn (self.TheRedPill)
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[–]JackGetsIt 384 points385 points386 points 2 years ago* (54 children)
Ahh, track one of redpills greatest hits. You'll also get classics like:(scrolls)
All women are like that!
Men love women. Women love children. Children love dogs puppies.
She will never love you like your mother.
Men are romantics parading as realists, women are realists parading as Romantics.
Agree and Amplify
Follower her actions never her words.
*Act now and we'll throw in a bonus hit:
[–]jm51 124 points125 points126 points 2 years ago (10 children)
Men love women. Women love children. Children love dogs.
Men love women. Women love children. Children love dogs.
I see it as 'Men love women. Women love children. Children love puppies. Dogs love men.
[–]boomscooter 18 points19 points20 points 2 years ago (1 child)
So, it's, it'sss. It like a circle.
[–]shardikprime 24 points25 points26 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Wait are you a ssnek or what
[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (1 child)
The great joke on who really loves you: lock your dog and your girl in the trunk of your car then come back in an hour and tell me which one is happy to see you.
[–]lqtys 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
There is truth in every joke.
And in this one you can see who is a self-entitled and ego-driven bitch and who is an ego-less and wonderful creature.
[–]ThatDrunkenScot 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Men Love Women > Women Love Children > Children Love Dogs >Dogs love Men
Men Love Dogs, Dogs Love Men
[–]Ganaria_Gente 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (0 children)
pwahaha this is the greatest post
[–]Ganaria_Gente 16 points17 points18 points 2 years ago (2 children)
this should be the stickiest of all stickies in this sub
[–]afkb39sdfb 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Clear, concise, and to the point. I agree.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Strive to be in the top 10%
If you arnt fat as fuck your already in the top 30
[–]headbangerJd 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (32 children)
I've seen agree and amplify on here several times. Are you able to explain it?
[–][deleted] 56 points57 points58 points 2 years ago (17 children)
Her: "You just want me for sex!"
You: "Can you blame me?!" slaps her ass
[–]Mckallidon 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (8 children)
Her: (pussy gets wet). "You're an asshole."
Him: (dick gets hard). "Only to those who don't know me".
Her: "so what do you want to do?" (Twirls hair with large pupils and submissive body language).
Him: (pulls it out like a boss)
Her: (overwhelmed with the possibilities)
[–]OzzyDaGrouch 13 points14 points15 points 2 years ago (7 children)
pulls it out
Why does this work so often 😂
[–]Mckallidon 57 points58 points59 points 2 years ago (6 children)
Oh how it works!
Because most interaction between the sexes is a drawn out segue to the moment of truth. The truth being that we all want to fuck and most of our conversations are lame unless they lead there.
And, because there are two types of men in this world. Those who pull it out, and those who can't. Women need a man that pulls out whatever he has to when her needs arise. The key is to always make it the dick and never the wallet.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Killed me on the last sentence lol
[–]TX_trp 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Those who pull it out and those who can't. You learn something new everyday.
[–]BENDERisGRREAT 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
are you sure it isnt just that lame conversations never lead to sex???
[–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Chicken and egg scenario lol. What came first, the inevitable lack of fucking between two people or the lame conversation that preceded it.
It's hard to say. Even autistic and retarded people fuck.
[–]1GroundhogLiberator 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Don't forget your "cheeky grin"
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-12 points-11 points-10 points 2 years ago (5 children)
This wouldn't work if she was not attractive... girls know how hot they are. Just wanting sex from a fattie is different than just wanting sex from a model. The former is like, "fuck I just need to get laid, I don't care where the fuck I stick it..." while the latter has intent which I think is mainly shamed by unattractive people / "losers" with low self image.
[–]subtle_nirvana92 48 points49 points50 points 2 years ago (4 children)
Dont fuck fatties. It makes them think its okay
[–]BENDERisGRREAT 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Literally the only advice from my dad that sticks with me, "Life is too short to date ugly (fat) women"
Granted plowing a 6 really makes you appreciate a 9
[–]kragshot 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
See...you get that shit. Sometimes, you have to take a step down to just refresh your palate. Having a chopped steak sandwich will get your taste buds ready for that porterhouse or Delmonico steak.
[–]kragshot 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Sheeet! Fucking fat chicks is just recreational sex...when you don't want to work for it and just have some fun. Fat girls work that shit in bed like they are trying to make it into the buffet line just before the cut-off.
Don't get me wrong; I do understand the reticence. It's like chitlins, escargot, or vegemite...it's an acquired taste and not for everyone. Also, if you are going to do it, you have to go into their native habitat...anime or SF conventions are safe bets. If you're fairly secure in who you are (or your persona if you are into such things), then it's easy. Fortunately, most of them are smart enough to know that's all there is and nothing else is going to come of it once the biting, howling, scratching, and screaming is over. But you get a few who are above themselves...again and fortunately, those are easy to spot and to avoid. And you do want to avoid that type.
But as I said; they are an acquired taste. Also, I'm an advocate of the "Patrice O'Neal/Black Phillip" or the "Dolomite" school when it comes to my attitudes and choices in women. So take my advice with whatever brand/type of salt or salt substitute you choose.
My shit works for me...beyond me, your results may vary.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 30 points31 points32 points 2 years ago (4 children)
A+A is one of the best responses to shit tests. You take whatever she said and lampoon it until it's ridiculous - thereby not rejecting her frame so much as invalidating it. Shit tests require a range of skills to defeat, but this is one of the key ones.
What's so great about it, is that the same concept can be used over and over and over again, and she just can't use her normal tricks to get power over you.
Crucial to know: most shit tests are failed by either agreeing OR disagreeing with them. Agreeing or disagreeing gives the woman power and makes you the one jumping through her hoops.
"You only want sex" is mentioned as a response and it's a reasonable example. "Yes I do" just makes her look right and you the bad guy. "No I don't, I want to buy you flowers too!" reaffirms your commitment to her and makes you look even more beta.
Better is: "No I don't just want sex, I also want blowjobs and threesomes and a handjob in the car and anal on Tuesdays and is your sister available this weekend?".
This works because it's attractive, funny, doesn't just blank her (stupid) frame, but also keeps you on the side of sex and masculinity (the thing that is being tested). Done well and she'll even be laughing and punching you on the arm.
Note though: "you always want sex" isn't the first shit test, it's the last failed test after a series of other tests that really means "I don't find you attractive, but make you sure you double down on your commitment and beta provider status while you get very little sex and I shame you for what little I allow you to have".
[–]kabhi23 3 points3 points3 points 2 years ago [recovered]
That last part is just so true. How can you always recognize a shit test? Now i look back i recognize i failed a few by not even knowing. Causes me paranoia that every question from a girl is potentially a shit test lol. So you can't really always do A&A.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
How can you always recognize a shit test?
How can you always recognize a shit test?
You can't. Sometimes they are comfort tests. Sometimes it's so subtle you never even see it.
What really helps is being attractive, seeing other women, living YOUR life. Reduces the shit tests and makes them less important, so long as you don't compromise yourself.
Causes me paranoia that every question from a girl is potentially a shit test lol. So you can't really always do A&A.
Causes me paranoia that every question from a girl is potentially a shit test lol. So you can't really always do A&A.
You don't have to win them all, and you can test her back (she'll fail, so you have to do it in fun or you'll lose the girl). And yes, A+A isn't a universal response.
[–]falecf4 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Holy shit that last part is so true. Failed the shit out of that with my last ex.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 2 years ago (5 children)
It's a way of responding to a shit test. For ex: A girl shit tests you by saying, "Apex, are you player?" You respond with, "Only on the weekends." You agreed with her shit test and took it to another level by saying "only on the weekends."
[–]relativebeingused 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Plus, no real player would say only on the weekends because it's played out
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I guess so. I heard that on the sub before and I thought maybe it's a good example for a guy to understand agree and amplify.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (1 child)
I've seen a few girls say within 3 seconds ask if I F lots of girls and not be upset with no answer and then be disgusted about a joke about being a virgin, that tells me so much. Also their clueless strategy of talking up their N count to impress me, after I encourage it / show that I'm cool. I've only seen a few girls since becoming RP aware and getting myself in shape and upping career, but it's a constant after the change.
another thing I've found helps is letting them see that you're testing them too, weed out girls like they need to weed out guys. If they're game aware and see that you're game aware, you can learn a lot and I think they enjoy it too because they're little sociopaths and that's how they have fun.
[–]clear_lights 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
then be disgusted about a joke about being a virgin, that tells me so much
then be disgusted about a joke about being a virgin, that tells me so much
What does that tell you? That they're filthy skanks?
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANT 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Essentially you shut down a "valid point" by making a joke and agreeing to the point of parody is the easiest, simplest way to do it, but theoretically other things could work too.
[–]darknes66 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
And when she says "no,seriously. I want to know." I recently had this shit test Anne probably failed by saying no I don't just want sex, I genuinely enjoy spending time with you but I'm just too busy to move at the speed you're asking. She came over the next day,brought me a microwave and wet fucked a few times that night and the next morning.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
This should be a post on its own
[–]scrodzilla 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I love this cd! It's always in my cd changer!
[–]omega_dawg93 56 points57 points58 points 2 years ago (1 child)
this must be the pg version of what my uncle told me in 1986... when my first girlfriend broke my heart into 1,000,000 pieces.
"it's not your PUSSY... it's just your turn."
that's the correct quote... bc she can actually be yours (marriage, LTR, shacking up, etc.) but even in those circumstances, that pussy will always be up for grabs.
[–]fraud_93 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Wait, what? She gave you the opportunity to meet other women forever in her life, she's great. She could keep the relationship as shitty as it can get, until you got depressed and stuff like that. You should be thankful because she walked away when things weren't like it supposed to be, at least for her end.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 111 points112 points113 points 2 years ago (23 children)
The Red Pill is a toolset so you can take advice or leave it.
If your goal is Infertility and sex with many women who are riding the Cock Carousel™ then it makes sense to just take your turn and then forget about it.
But if your goal involves Fertility and you want a female as a mother then you need to practice tight Game and select a low N Count female who has better potential to be a decent mother. (she is more trainable)
Free will... it's what we do here.
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANT 21 points22 points23 points 2 years ago (17 children)
Red pill is helpful for the second aim as well, since it gives so much insight into the nature of women. The issue is that most of the content here is from men who only want sex. Selecting for a sex puppet and selecting for a wife are two very different tasks, but the underlying basis is the same: be fit, successful, and alpha.
TRP often focusing on pursuing bar sluts and the like for easy sex, but you could just as easily pursue a good Mormon girl or something. It will take different tactics and more time, but the underlying feminine nature is still there. Most TRPers would see the Mormon girl as a waste since you only want sex anyway and she'll just take longer and provide more mediocre/less experienced sex, but for the family-desiring TRPer she's a good pick.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 18 points19 points20 points 2 years ago (13 children)
Having actually been involved in the Mormon church I'll say you need to be very young to do that. I got into it at 36 years old and was already being placed in the "old divorced singles" groups.
Mormon girls get married around 20 to 22 and by 30 have a few kids.
The hot ones are gone by 24.
[–]AHAPPYMERCHANT 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Of course, I'm not pretending to know anything about Mormons I'm just using them as an example because they tend to be harder to bed and more successful as wives.
Honestly, I'd like to make a point that marrying a hot wife isn't necessarily a good thing entirely. A hot wife is more likely to cheat on you since she can attracted higher quality men than a more plain one. I'd rather have an 5 who's loyal than an 8 who's not.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children)
The Mormon women can be very hot as well as very family oriented.
But I wasn't raised in it so my "crudeness" as well as "creativeness" was a problem for them. To be well established in the Mormon church requires that you adopt a very calm and stable trajectory, but I was often too curious even in the study of the scriptures. I'd ask all kinds of questions and they would have to reign me in again.
Actually the break occurred when I got deeply into the dot.coms and just was overwhelmed with work. There was no way to continue an interest in religious questions when you are programming all week. (I was exhausted)
[–]STuPiDiCuS 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Can confirm. Was Mormon till I turned 30.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child)
If you were 30 as a Mormon and unmarried you are looked at as a complete failure. By 30 you are supposed to have three kids at least.
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[–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (6 children)
Yeah well it only lasted one year.
I was never exposed to Christianity as a child, so it was all new to me. Like entering into a foreign alien world.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (4 children)
There is a very definite Freemasonry background.
As an American church it was rooted in many of the practices of the Freemasons that had increased at that time.
Joseph Smith was a genius at being able to master the scriptures.
But the funny thing is that after Joseph Smith died (murdered while in jail for being the leader of the church) the tone of the church changed to be more about survival.
The long trek to Utah ended up creating this persecuted view of themselves.
Alcohol was often consumed by early Mormons. It was only when the Federal Government made a threat like:
"Either you abandon polygamy and obey all our American laws or we invade your territory (not yet part of the US) and kill you off."
So as a reaction to the forced imposition of foreign laws (American) the church seemed to go with the idea of abstaining from alcohol.
The "no alcohol" rule really wasn't central in the beginning.
But in the "Word of Wisdom" they went further and banned alcohol as well as cigarettes and caffiene. Basically they wanted to keep the rowdy types (like those living in Arizona or Colorado) from living in their dry towns.
The whole thing is interesting.
The Mormon story is closely tied to the opening of the Western states.
[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
i understand and respect the philosophy of abstaining from outside stimulants, and i think the system did a terrible job of truly educating the population of why they should be avoided or moderated. if you straight up ban things people are always drawn to that forbidden fruit, better for it to be legal with a thorough education of the consequences of over indulgence. it's all about learning to handle addictions and dependencies. that true enlightened alpha has no dependency, no addiction, he is free.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
It was more like a "test of loyalty".
Mormons stopped using these addictive substances to prove they were greater masters over themselves than the common degenerate cattle.
And it is true... I did learn elements of self mastery from them.
So having this mastery over self is a benefit.
My point was that the motivation may have been claimed to have been "self improvement" when in reality there was a "virtue signaling" component.
Mormons don't drink so they are superior in some spiritual sense. (so goes the logic)
There is an elitism there.
[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
i think that whole superior thinking might be dangerous. the lack of humility almost guarantees some sort of fall. respect for the possibility of succumbing to temptation is an absolute must, it's always the pride before the fall. those who are actually superior, do not treat themselves and others as such. a true master is a student, a true student is a master.
[–]madwill 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Side questions: Say I got a Mormon Wife gf thing. Now she's great, caring, great values, pairing is great as well. But she's still damaged in weird woman ways, invalidating herself constantly, having what I'd call mild anxiety crisis for she only nags me... not a professional.
First time on this sub, slightly afraid of the result of this question. but that your second point resonate. We have two beautiful kids, things could be awesome but her self-defeating nature, now outgrowing her tends to go overboard and started taking shots at me.
Now fuck this! I'm sad about what's happening in her brain but there is no way that demon is coming at me.
Of course, we talked about plenty, I'm a very open person and talk even if it's uncomfortable. But I often feel like I have to be mother fucking Gandhi while receiving not equivalent treatment.
Suggested all kinds of help external to me. But I feel now since progress is slow, the best steps for me would be to work on distancing my mind and stop thinking we're equal in everything and that she'll get it.
I want to focus on stop taking shit for a while.
Any decent writing pointing towards quality of life with womans ?
Edit: fuck i'd like to get out of Mormon sex as well.
edit 2: Not an actual Mormon, i thought we were using that term referring a prude-ish woman
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (0 children)
He is choosing a dvd for tonight
[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
it's easier to deal with moods and shit tests when you realize that deep down she wants to feel loved and society and her parents abused the shit out of her for her entire life.
that poison they've been force fed since childhood really hits them hard. i've noticed girls not even in high school and they've already got all that bullshit going on. it really is all on the man to be the spiritual center. what's a guy gotta do to find a 777 chick heh.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (2 children)
Very few 777 chicks these days.
Very few 555 chicks either past the age of about 15.
Most Feminists are 666 and want "inversion" where they act like the dude. If you are 777 as a male your response is "Sorry, that violates masculine polarity" so the 666 Feminists end up with 555 beta males as their slaves. The 666 Feminist will fuck another 666 Chad Thundercock, but two 666's don't last long together.
Alpha Fucks / Beta Bucks is the 666 Feminist reality.
The traditional 777 marriage with masculine and feminine polarity is rare now.
[–]aanarchist -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (1 child)
so that af bb really is a bunch of unnatural satanic bullshit after all. i never wanted to be a chad and it left me feeling rotten treating a woman like that. how do i forgive myself having been part of the system once upon a time? i wasn't even that alpha but just a basic acceptance of the dominance inside me without also respecting the effect it can have on a woman. it sucks knowing that i could have actually widowed someone when i was younger, and she did nothing to deserve it, just a regular girl who had below average self esteem because nobody taught her to seek commitment first.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
so that af bb really is a bunch of unnatural satanic bullshit after all.
so that af bb really is a bunch of unnatural satanic bullshit after all.
Well what is "natural"?
With "Natural Law" we have what I call the Rubik's Cube™ that can be configured any way you want.
Humans can be:
555 - Beta innocence, unformed clay, naive
666 - Power obsessed, materialistic, Feminists or Chad
777 - Amused Mastery, acceptance of masculine and feminine polarity
So what the Blue Pill does is block the process which gets people to 777.
For women they go from innocent 555 to 666 then stop.
For men they remain trapped at 555 beta.
Ideally the Red Pill and Red Pill Women create 777 humans, but for many guys the equalization for Feminism is to create the 666 Chad and then just fuck and run away.
There is logic to Chad.
Redpill is useful for cost/benefit analysis. Started seeing a 19 year old who's a little fat and away from the fam for the first time, but smart and obedient and sweet and not addicted to her phone etc. Racked up some N though, obviously low self esteem and never had a quality guy--maybe overlook-able. I'll pump her a few times and reward good behavior / try to seduce her, she might make a decent LTR. I lost 50lbs in short time, not worried about a little fat if her attitude isn't completely broken.
With PUA / BP alone I may or may not make different choices, but they'd not be informed beyond situational algebra or delusion.
[–]Solpig 43 points43 points43 points 2 years ago [recovered]
Nothing is 'yours'. The air you breathe, the money in your pocket, the molecules that make up your body. All out on loan. All forms eventually fail... Proverbs,Ecclesiastes, Buddhism, Jesus.
It's just your turn.... applies to everything!!
When I remember that it makes every moment of every day precious. I knew that before I discovered TRP.
All of this 10 point list is beautiful because it's a tangible reminder that my experiences aren't unique...that AWALT doesn't mean there's something wrong with me, and you can either cry about it or enjoy the piece you have. The peace you have.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Nothig lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Go with the flow. Swimming against the tide causes imbalance and anxiety in your life. Learn to embrace uncertainty
[–]bbmc7gm6fm 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Another excellent post. Have an upvote!
Simplicity is the basis of beauty and eloquence. Hence, be simple with your women. She's not yours, it's just your turn, so enjoy the ride while it lasts.
[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (7 children)
Most men don't get a turn with anything else again.
Some men fall in love once and can never do it again because of that first girl.
I've realized that ride was over and it's over for good (in terms of women in general).
[–]2awalt_cupcake 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (6 children)
This is a difficult hump for me to get over. Being 'in love' as I experienced it was what made my game so tight because I was being my genuine self. Now I'm burnt out with the concept of love and realize I have to emulate some of that behavior to seduce women properly. It's hard jumping into that act without saying something the wrong way because I have bitterness left in me. Or not going far enough because I simply don't care.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (4 children)
Yeah this shit has confused me. I first read about pick up and attraction when I was 18 and the advice I followed worked very well for me because I was naturally a funny, cocky, confident guy. Now I can't even bring myself to that level anymore because that last relationship (2 years ago) broke me in half. I don't believe in myself whatsoever, and I feel women are an obstacle that's impossible to overcome.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Read the sidebar bro (maybe you already have, if so read some top posts and pick up The Rational Male - my favorite RP book), focus on yourself and find hobbies you enjoy. You'll bounce back, trust me.
[–]1SexdictatorLucifer 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
The guy below is absolutely right. The depressing part though is that once you begin to do really well with women, you'll still be unfulfilled. Nothing will ever be the same as before. But the beautiful thing is, you were living in a fantasy world. And that's why you'll never go back. No amount of good feels are better than reality.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (1 child)
This might be repulsive to say, but it really saddens me to know that it was all a lie. Sad to the point that I just want to breakdown right now. To know that all the quiet evenings alone talking about random shit over a coffee was---fake. To know that all the times spent on the getaways was---fake. To know all the 'good morning babe' text messages were---fake. It makes that girl I once knew seem more like a unicorn. It makes my life's journey seem more unbearable.
[–]2awalt_cupcake 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
it wasn't fake-- it happened and you experienced it. Your interpretation was unrealistic. Women do this shit naturally and have been doing this shit for a millennia. Men always have a story of that one girl who turned out to be a 'fraud'. It's what women do.
It's as if we have to find it in ourselves to love them again knowing when to take our love away and love multiple girls at the same time. Knowing they can never equally share the love we have and that whatever they say is all just nice nothings.
[–]1SexdictatorLucifer 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
It's a dilemma I experience as well. I just absolutely cannot force myself to mimic that aspect. It's repulsive to me now. Sometimes I feel a little softer and can express it a little bit. But there's still something missing that a normal jack off has. And they can always sense that.
[–]Avskygod0 28 points29 points30 points 2 years ago (5 children)
Yeah but is real fucking disgusting if you think about it
[–]foot_odor 23 points24 points25 points 2 years ago (4 children)
Exactly. This means that whatever the relationship you get into with a western liberal woman, you will be at least a soft cuckold on the long run even if you behave like an "Alpha". And now you understand why any sane man is now checking out of LTRs/marriage. How can you even think of raising a family if you come to this realization about the state of intergender relationships today? This is one of the consequences of the so called "sexual liberation" in the West. And people still don't get it when they see religions with strong family values regaining strength.
[–]Jigsus 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
Can you expand on this soft cuckold concept?
[–]_the_shape_ 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
"Your girl" (even if those words only mean your plate and not an actual girlfriend or wife) is bound to fuck some other guy either way while the two of you are already fucking one another, odds going up and up the longer the relationship drags on for.
[–]Jigsus 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
So what's the soft part? That's straight up cuck
[–]_the_shape_ 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Maybe the commenter you were originally replying to has a different definition, but the soft aspect, in my opinion, has to do with the lack of actual, solid boundaries that your typical LTR or marriage come with, by default, a result of being "official" for lack of a better term.
Since clear, definitive boundaries are absent, she's not actually cheating (cucking) the man, but in a sense, still somewhat is if they have a relationship (i.e. fuck regularly), albeit with much less 'seriousness' and formality (like a plate).
[–]1PantsonFire1234 20 points21 points22 points 2 years ago (6 children)
Women are playing themselves in a corner. By driving men to the edge of their limits through their lies and deceit they are losing the only thing that gave them assurance in life. The value of a mans word.
Nowadays more and more men are evolving and adapting to reserve their honesty and honor for men only. This means that the commitment women so desperately desire slowly is becoming null and void.
Women will no longer live with the dependable commitment of a high value men and instead have a life of tedious CC-ing/Pump and Pumping to look forward to. Women will become as frustrated from their lack of commitment as men are sexually frustrated right now. This is the future and there's no escaping from it.
For the most part women have been living a shameless life of no responsibility and having their cake and eating it to. What will become painfully apparent in the coming decades however is the realization that men have forsaken and abandoned them.
You can see the symptoms of this paradigm shift right now. The current 'fuckboi' culture, manosphere, Trumps masculine traction, drop in marriages and the dwindling number of male social media subscribers are but one of many examples the world is turning on women.
It's natural law, causality. Men have experienced this causality in the past when they controlled women for the most part. The pendulum has swung however and for the last century women have been pushing their agenda.
Now all of this is coming to a halt. They will feel this causality just like we did. It is now up to us to enjoy their decline and take what we can get.
[–]TheReformist94 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (1 child)
You forgot they don't want commitment.they enjoy riding the CC
[–]jazerac 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Are male social media subscribers really declining? I find this interesting. I am one of those, never participated, no interest in doing so.
[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
I've not seen any studies so I might be full of shit. However almost every friend I have has deleted his Facebook account. While allot of women still keep it. This has been echoed by many people I speak with or hear from, both off and online. Some opted for the simplicity of Instagram, yet others rid themselves of everything.
Social media has no benefit for men except those famous/rich/socially connected. Even then it's a big waste of time and men are beginning to realize that their 10+ years of social media dedication, hasn't granted them any pussy at all.
The only men that remain hooked on social media are the beta/narcissistic cucks that prey on attention equally like women.
[–]jazerac 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I think your observations are right. Most of the men I know that still use it regularly are validation/attention seeking. It offers very little to your life.
[–]ShouldersofGiants127 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
This is the most important lesson of TRP imo
[–]keysomea 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Interesting frame and I kinda liked it!
[–]reigorius 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Basically it's a Buddhist saying: nothing is permanent. Get that and your free to wander around and enjoy the fruits of life.
Except, it is in our nature to attach ourselves to other beings.
[–]Lucifer9666 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
perhaps it should also be mentioned that the same mindset should be a vibe you give to women
I'm not yours, it's just your turn, prove your value and show why you deserve me and maybe i'll consider it
[–]kabhi23 2 points2 points2 points 2 years ago [recovered]
Thanks for your response. One of the most common for me is "why do you always want sex" "is this all you want" I reply A&A, she responds with a "cmon seriously, its not funny". So this is more comfort test I think. If she is a potential LTR, how can one respond?
[–]yummyluckycharms 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
LTR require a mix of alpha and beta traits - too much alpha they'll break or become bitter.
The response to "is this all you want is....."
I want the same thing that every other ambitious guy wants - everything. When she pushes you to explain more relationship wise - I say - you can stay with me as long as you keep me happy and meet my needs.
Subtle dread plus incentivization is the way to go in relationships. If she walks - she walks, but 9/10 the woman will redouble her efforts to keep you happy. Plus - if she doesnt after that line, it gives you some food for thought. Either she thinks that you've grown comfortable with her (cause there is no need for her to work harder), then you know where you are on the curve, and soon she's going to start reducing effort. Alternatively, it might mean that she's getting ready to bounce. In either case, it gives you a heads up warning.
Remember just as she owes you nothing, you owe her nothing
[–]mcarter7000 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child)
I disagree with this post. It's good for us to have such a mindset internally. But possession is a huge turn on for girls. The idea that they are yours and that you "took" them and "have" them. See The Sex God Method, for reference. So holding that frame is to everyone's advantage, even if internally you have more a take it or leave it attitude.
[–]scrodzilla 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (0 children)
He means inside your own head, genius.
[–]fcb98292 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children)
If one is indeed after a dating career, then this is an "A" list to run by.
[–]stawek 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Women are broken.
Not their fault really that the af/bb dynamic requires them to make contradictory decisions. Not their fault that we aren't small groups of hunters-gatherers anymore. Not their fault that their genes still containt attraction to scary alphas and manifest themselves in lusting for criminals and other scumbags. Not their fault her covert ovulation and hormone cycles make them lust for different people depending on the time of the month. Not their fault that all the above make for a neurotic individual totally driven by emotions.
None of this is their fault, but they are still broken. Some societies managed to contain the damage, ours is failing in this task.
Good job expanding on the idea
[–]S3542U 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
She's not yours, it's just HER turn.
[–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Thanks, hadn't read this 100 times already.
[–]WarriorsSpaceship -1 points-1 points-1 points 2 years ago [recovered]
this is the same psychological tactic that morbid obese feminist slobs use to rationalize their obesity. They re-write the rule book by normalizing their shameful, embarrassing image. So obesity is no longer a serious health concern, it's "beautiful." TRP "alphas" do the same thing. "I'm an alpha male 5%-er, but she's going to cheat on me, not because I've completely overvalued myself and put too much stock in the sexuality of used up whores, but because 'AWALT.'"
"It's my turn this week." What a defeatist loser attitude.
[–]P4_Brotagonist 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (11 children)
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. If you haven't looked into it, there is an ENTIRE subreddit dedicated to long term relationships with TRP mindset. The main takeaway when people say things like "It's just your turn" is that if you go through life as the average man, it will just be your turn, into you get stuck in a dead-end marriage. I watched my own father do it, then my stepfather, and so on.
What the LTR subreddit focuses on is exactly what made my current stepfather keep around for years and she will never leave. He is powerful. I don't mean in the "he's strong" way, I mean in the "When he walks in the room he has a presence even though he says very little." He is always sociable, yet quiet. He is always aloof and has things to do. He values himself before anyone else. This is what it took to take my mother, who hopped from man to man, to stay with someone. Being confused as fuck ALL THE TIME, complaining about how even after 15 years of marriage "she never knows what he's thinking". She can't get enough.
The point is that that is just how he is. He is the odd 5-10% of guys who have that exact thing that women want. Now for the rest of it, we can LEARN to do it, but as it isn't our natural personality, it takes work. When you get into an LTR, it is a never-ending, grinding set of work. If you slip, the spark in her eyes dies for you. Even if you are both "happy", she will become bored. She might NEVER cheat and be 100% loyal because women like that do exist, but she will slowly become miserable, and you will never fuck besides pity sex 5-10 times a year.
You can choose to live that life, and there are many of us who do choose that life because women make us happy(I've been pushing for 5 year just over 5 years now with the same lady) but god DAMN is it hard work to keep the spark there. What that advice is for, is that for most men who tire out, or are bluepilled as fuck, she isn't yours forever. Just your turn.
[–]madrealworld 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (9 children)
hook me up with a link to that subreddit plz.
[–]icecow 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (7 children)
I've never heard of the RedPill LTR subreddit either. Does it exist?
[–]reigorius 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (4 children)
MRP, add / r / for it and then the reddit URL. Can't direct link.....
[–]madrealworld 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
mrp? doesnt seem like its the right subreddit...
[–]reigorius 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Married red pill. It's the only sub dedicated to long term relationships in RP light. It's called married RP, but the content is applicable for any relationship that is not solely aimed at getting the dick wet.
[–]nicetimeisback 5 points5 points5 points 2 years ago [recovered]
It's not "re-writing rulebooks", it's about know and understand what hypergamy (hardcoded in every woman by nature) is.
[–]TheReformist94 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
If you are faithful to a woman,accepting its your turn and don't cheat one her ( male strategy of polygamy) you are getting cucked in linear fashion
[–]leotard-princess 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Interesting opinion. You think NAWALT? You think you can stay on top?
Seriously. I'd like to hear more about what you're saying. It's refreshing. So many of the guys here seem to be seeking validation from tons of sex, which is still validation seeking.
Oh and despite the u/name I'm a dude. Not some feminist. I just crossdress. Lots.
[–]1Jax77789 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
At what point do you not accept her fucking other guys though ?
What happens if you are dick n°6 in the week, she sets the dates all the time and basically you are out the door if dick n° 1 calls her ? Do you roll with it ?
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (0 children)
She should be pussy number 4 and when you got few other rides at the same time, it aint so bad.
Thanks for the tips / recap! I'd add 2:
11 no temptation to go raw (#3 in disguise)
12 jokes / questions have a reality-based frame to rest on
[–]Rocky_Bukkake -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children)
in this moment, i am euphoric. not because of some phony god's blessings, but because i am enlightened by my own intelligence.
[–]EdvardMunch -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (3 children)
Wow never heard this one before.
I can honestly say I do not understand this idea. And if anything it seems like a cognitive device to band-aid other issues.
You date, maybe she becomes your gf. You stay loyal, maybe she stays loyal. If her cheating bothers you, you leave her and find another.
Poor people make a big deal about things rich people have regularly. If you're a male rich with women this is not an issue. If good women are scarce, and you see them as scarce it will always bother you. If you have to tell yourself it's only temporary that already points to an issue. Guys with abundance don't have to tell themselves things like this.
[–]kagetsuki23 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
which is why they end divorce raped.
[–]EdvardMunch 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Any man getting into marriage should be prepared to be divorce raped. If you don't want to don't marry.
[–]devilabit -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children)
If you believe this, don't ever say it to her when you're drunk or you'll be dumped!. Also , stop thinking about some other dude banging her after you, just finish and don't think beyond that. She's gone and ya don't care.
[–]LidlKwark -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children)
Interesting read, but is this really the mindset you want to have?
[+]Trump_will_win_2016 comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago (0 children)
She may not be mine, but if you're Alpha YOU decide when/if things end. Your woman should crumble at your feet and beg for your attention.