Red Pill ExampleRedditor disappointed that her brother-in-law has turned from a beta to the TRP ways, it is working, and he is probably going to stick with it. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by RedSyringe


This story is truly heartwarming. It is a story of a struggle, making a change, and reaping success.

OP is disappointed that her BIL. And she opened with that has been the TL;DR of many active TRP members.

He's never been very successful romantically since I've known him, but he started going on that sub a year ago, and started using their advice and BAM! He's been having luck with women (at least 3) in a fairly short amount of time.

OP is originally relieved that her BIL has managed to bust a nut, but then realises it was not by being the Nice Guy (TM) that her and society have encouraged him to be.

Without knowing much about the mentality, I was really happy and proud of him because I know it's something he's wanted for a long time. He wants a family someday, but he also wanted sex and I don't blame him (he's struck out more than a few times since I've known him). He's talked to me years ago about being lonely physically so the fact that he was getting physical affection -- I was happy for him.

Who can't relate to breaking a drought?

I thought him getting with multiple women in rapid succession was because it wasn't working out between them for one reason or another, but I couldn't help but think "oh well, at least he's gaining confidence regardless of whether or not a relationship works out". But now I don't think he was viewing them as relationship material at all. Which is shocking, because prior to him becoming engrossed with this sub he was the sweetest guy who had many female friends, who wanted a steady girlfriend.

Shock-horror. He wanted sex, and didn't want to pay for it in a relationship.

I don't feel very happy or proud of him anymore. He's become a bit of a monster red piller. I wish I had known more about it when I was encouraging him -- I thought it was about building confidence and learning about women as a means of being more attractive to us to find a sexual partner/gf/wife/whatever. That's kind of how he described it to me. And, in part, that is what it is (but it has the worst aftertaste). He's had success with the methods he's researched on there, and with that success he's become a person who has little to no empathy for women. In that: I don't think he views women as individuals anymore? His opinions are now the boiled down opinions on what women "are" and how we "think/talk/argue/etc" that the Red Pill defines.

When she said "monster red piller" I thought she was going to speak about him actually doing something illegal like beating women, or committing hate crimes. No, what he did instead is change his attitude towards women. He stopped seeing unicorns around every corner, and instead saw a group of people who tend to have similar traits.

The hamster then rationalises that he is exploiting the women he is having sex with:

Then I started thinking about the girls he's been hooking up with recently. He's 31, all of them have been under 25 (one of them just 20). They haven't been educated beyond high school as far as I know, and their jobs are not of high status (a courtesy clerk, a cashier, one was unemployed), and I can't help but think that he's targeting these women who may have low self-esteem with these tactics. His argument is "it works", and my argument is "yeah, but at what cost?"

Yeah. What cost indeed? Squeak squeak

This is a great example of TRP working, although it is written by someone who is opposed to it.

TL;DR: Why can't my brother in law continue being a supplicating beta who puts women on a pedestal. Why couldn't he just accept that he was going to be sexless and lonely until one day a woman would decide he would make a decent provider.

EDIT: we've got it on authority from some of our more observant members that this probably is a troll post. Take the story with a big grain of salt. Cheers /u/Auvergnat and /u/Soarinc

EDIT2: I asked about trolling. OP still claims to have a vagina.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 400 points401 points  (26 children)

Definitely a troll post. Listing all the positive effects of the red pill in a fake blanket "disappointment about the new attitude".

I'm quite amazed the mods have not picked up on it yet and let it reach the top of their frontpage.

Looking forward the new batch of people this is going to send our way. Now would be a good time to sticky Archwinger's "Men are not happy" post back on the top of our frontpage.

EDIT 40 minutes in: Aaaand it's gone..

[–]thebrandedman 137 points138 points  (0 children)

Alright, whicha you fuckers wrote this? I died laughing some of the portions in it, and the responses were gold. Someone tried to drag in a rape comparison, and got dogpiled.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 41 points42 points  (20 children)

I'm happy to be proven wrong, and I can see where you're coming from. I've either been trolled, or a legit poster has given us free advertisement.

Only positive it mentioned was him getting his dick wet (no gym or any tangible self improvement). But it listed a bunch of negatives against him and how it has made him an outcast within his family.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 96 points97 points  (15 children)

Re-read it while keeping in mind what a lonely AFC/incel would read and it becomes a pretty blatant "come to the red pill. It'll solve all your problems" advertisement directed at them:

[...] He's never been very successful romantically since I've known him, but he started going on that sub a year ago, and started using their advice and BAM! He's been having luck with women (at least 3) in a fairly short amount of time.

[...] Without knowing much about the mentality, I was really happy and proud of him because I know it's something he's wanted for a long time. He wants a family someday, but he also wanted sex and I don't blame him (he's struck out more than a few times since I've known him). He's talked to me years ago about being lonely physically so the fact that he was getting physical affection -- I was happy for him.

[...] prior to him becoming engrossed with this sub he was the sweetest guy who had many female friends, who wanted a steady girlfriend.

[...] I thought it was about building confidence and learning about women as a means of being more attractive to us to find a sexual partner/gf/wife/whatever. That's kind of how he described it to me.

[...] told him that the way he was defining his views -- that he sounded like a misogynist. Which I've now learned is a word that the redpillers tut tut at because it "tries to shine a way of thinking and valuing men in a negative light". He said as much to me, said I was closed-minded, that I've never lived as a man who was unsuccessful in relationships so I can't know what opening my eyes to the truth is like

If OP were really a woman, "she" would focus exclusively on how "his" attitude make her feel and wouldn't go on and on about what the red pill is, what it is like to be a man, his sexual successes etc.

The negatives? Only that "she" is upset with it.

[–]Woshi-Wumao 166 points167 points  (8 children)

  • Notice also the organization. Every sentence and every encompassing paragraph has an actual point.

  • Notice how the author writes more objectively, as opposed to subjectively.

  • Notice how the composition isn't one long conveyance of feeeeeelings, but rather of numbers and facts.

Shit's too tangible, yo.

Bitch ain't Ayn Rand. Bitch is a dude.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (1 child)

That's hilarious and sad. Yet so damn true.

  • Wait a sec. This bitch I am talking to is making valid points and using facts and logic? Holy shit IT'S A MAN!!!!

[–]hyugafan 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It would be funny if it wasn't sad.

[–]PedroIsWatching 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Notice how the author writes more objectively, as opposed to subjectively.

Literally the first thing I noticed. There were no baseless appeals to feels in the post, just objective facts.


[–]Lsegundo -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Notice how the author writes more objectively, as opposed to subjectively.

It's comical how Woshi-Wumao was able to deduce this was written by a man not a woman.

[–]Lsegundo -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Notice how the author writes more objectively, as opposed to subjectively.

It's comical how Woshi-Wumao was able to deduce this was written by a man not a woman.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Yeah - I agree with you. I feel pretty silly haha...

[–]Woshi-Wumao 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Nah, most people wouldn't notice... someone had to bring it up in order for it to get picked apart.

You did good, mate. You brought something relevant into the spotlight, enabling logic to prevail. Thereby men, truth, and RP have become wiser for it, whereas the blind throngs over in relationship land are still ravenously swallowing the bait hook, line and sinker.

Victory, motherfucker. Ain't nothing "silly" about that.

[–]RojoEscarlata 6 points7 points  (0 children)

God damn, that IS good publicity indeed.

[–]BloodRedAlert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That dude is a dude...

mind blown

I imagine him (if it is really a him) like those undercover recruiters

[–]BluestBlackBalls 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The focus on getting laid and the changed outlook give the post a degree of sensibility. At least, it is in keeping with one of the points that Rollo often makes:
Everyone wants to see the success, but no one wants to see the toils
— paraphrased

[–]LordThunderbolt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It never mentioned him being an outcast now. Dont twist thus shit dude. The chick just said her jimmies have been rustled because hes behaving in a more self assured way (IDGAF attitude, frame)

[–]RedSyringe[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I was referencing his brother distancing himself from it. Not twisting it.

[–]LordThunderbolt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Outcast was a poor choice of a word then. Outcast would be if his family told him to fuck off or shunned him for being RP. When in fact it's just that the brother started employing an IDGAF attitude.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Now would be a good time to sticky Archwinger's "Men are not happy" post back on the top of our frontpage.

Not a bad idea. I will sticky it.

[–]2Overkillengine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That post is one of the best ones ever written here. It has that persuasive double whammy on both the logical and emotional layers that is very hard for feminists to argue against without revealing themselves to be complete idiots or hypocrites.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is the "sidebar made simple" in askTRP not on the mainsub sidebar? It includes that post.

[–]thebrandedman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be sure to welcome all our new friends from that submission. Ask them what part of the ad appealed the most.

[–]Breidurhundur 41 points42 points  (9 children)

I love the fact there's a comment at the bottom saying "just let him live his life" and it's downvoted. Yes, how dare you live your life the way you want to live it, you man. You have to do what we feminists tell you to do!

[–]Returnofthemack3 12 points13 points  (6 children)

yeah, and his biggest 'crime' here is basically dating girls that are...within a socially acceptable age range? 29 vs 20-25 is pretty damn normal, he's not even going for the standard 10 years difference you often see. Goddamn, like apparently guys who are 29-30 must focus on old hags, because 24 year olds are now babies or something lol.

edit: and ive seen so many posts of women dating guys 15-20 years their senior on that forum that get upvoted to oblivion, with dozens upon dozens of comments supporting their relationship. The key takeaway is it's only ok when a woman gives her express OK on the matter and writes out a wall of trash words lol

[–]Breidurhundur 16 points17 points  (4 children)

One of the other comments basically says that he's a creepy insecure manipulative asshole because he "preys on uneducated, low income, young women". So that's that folks, now we're not allowed to sleep with a woman unless she has a PhD, is a millionaire and is at least 45, otherwise we're creepy assholes.

I really hate the word "creepy" too, it is meaningless, arbitrary and allows women to dismiss and attack men who don't behave the way women want them to behave. What is "creepy"? Anything she didn't like about you.

[–]j3nbu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I bet most of these women are prochoice and believe that an uneducated, low income, young woman is completely capable of deciding for herself to get an abortion...but suddenly "my body, my choice" doesnt apply anymore when she chooses what man to sleep with.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cause calling someone "unattractive" makes them sound superficial. Calling them "creepy" is nice and arbitrary and also suggests they're shaming a behaviour, not an appearance.

[–]Returnofthemack3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah and it's kind of a classist distionction anyways, because who says that every low income woman without a college degree is 'unintelligent'. Man ,I know so many straight bimbos and idiot dudes that have college degrees, and in some cases advanced college degrees! The idea that having a degree is what translates to true intelligence is retarded. I've had friends who never went to college but who regularly read works of literature and philosophy which is more than I can say for my average degree holding friends. That's just a fact

[–]j3nbu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Older women are SUPER jealous of younger women.

When I was in my early 20s I almost never got laid at all. None of the girls felt sorry for me. Their attitude was "I dont owe you anything." ok, fair enough.

Now that I am in my late 20s and have improved my SMV these same types of girl who wouldnt give me the time of day 5 years ago are insulting me and trying to shame me for hooking up with girls in their early 20s. They seem to think that I owe them something.

Marriage used to be a deal between men and women. The man got a hot girl years before his SMV warranted it and the woman got an established man years after her SMV had dropped. Now that marriage isnt for life amd maybe not at all, that deal if off. The women dont complain when they are young and getting a better deal but the older ones who are now stuck with a worse deal get so bitter and grumpy about it.

[–]PM_Me_OK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well depending on the life he's living saying that could be a really bad thing to encourage. Not in this case though.

[–]SovereignSoul76 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Love the comments saying "He has chosen an abusive path, which will end with him raping women." Riiight. Not getting totally ass-blasted and punked out by these she-demons = abuse & rape. How absurd.

[–]PM_Me_OK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish we could gather these idiots up like sheep and plug things in to their brain and make them be less retarded for the long run.

[–]1Soarinc 146 points147 points  (28 children)

Great story but I've never been more certain of anything in my life that the 29F is lying and is male. I'm a former wikipedia admin and his unique writing style is remarkably similar to a troll/stalker who harrassed me on wikipedia for 6 months daily. The patterns of mental illness shine through easily once you notice the patterns (which I don't wish upon anybody -- being stalked on a website makes you cringe every time you turn on the computer)

I'll happily point out the ways to notice if anyone is interested but I'll choose a random sentence (or two) to make the point fairly obvious:

He's never been very successful romantically since I've known him, but he started going on that sub a year ago, and started using their advice and BAM! He's been having luck with women (at least 3) in a fairly short amount of time.

  • Women never talk like this -- they never explain causal relationships in such a direct, easily understood way.
  • Secondly, women never manage the tone and emotions of a narrow part of their posts in a manner consistent with how men do. Men keep tone specific to the paragraph or small section of their post. Women have 1 single constant unified emotional theme that permeates all sentences and all paragraphs of their post.
  • The story is too focused on the guy and how TRP caused him to get laid more often. The post never rambled nonsensically about how fearful she is that... (insert unclear/vague fear)

I'll happily provide 5-10 more obvious tells that this story was written by a man pretending to imitate a woman but luckily he can't write for shit and will never get the satisfaction of those who can easily perform that which he hilariously attempted.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I'll happily provide 5-10 more obvious tells

One tell is enough: this post is a TRP sales pitch - it's basically "come to the Dark Side, we have cuties".

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 13 points14 points  (5 children)

This was great analysis.

How did you detect mental illness from the text?

[–]1Soarinc 3 points4 points  (4 children)

not gonna lie -- it's kinda embarrassing but sorta along the vein of "takes one to know one" but I just got good things going for me (tall, doing well in life, socially bi-winning) but if my personality existed in some pimply-faced 5'1" guy with a 2-inch dick, I'd be the mentally-ill exact same guy as this.

Basically if you have good shit going for you in life, you're not mentally ill, even though I have his exact same type of trolling personality & propensity for mental instability. I'll explain further if interested, and I can link to a couple of my "darker posts" if curious because I don't mind sharing.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1 point2 points  (3 children)

This is really interesting to me. I feel like I'm the opposite - the mentality of a short dude with a tiny dick in a tall body with a big dick lol. I know that I have everything physically going for me but I still feel like that pathetic loser.

[–]1Soarinc 2 points3 points  (2 children)

yeah, the type this mentally ill guy is very narcissistic, megalomaniacal, and egotistical. He "gets off" by successfully deceiving people and allowing people to make FALSE CONCLUSIONS about human nature based on sincerely written, self-evident statements purposely made on the internet with a false underlying theme.

The most brilliant example in the ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE is "bug chasing" and "gift giving" that's some of the most retarded, dumbass nonsense ever yet a handful enough people got duped and believed it was real, and that led to the first few instances of "confirmation" that bug-chasing and gift-giving were real because a handful of deceived gay dudes thought it was real, thus themselves serving as the first few examples of "proof" of its existence.



I tip my hat to whatever genius narcissist berthed this hilarious fictitious and absurd idea into actual existence. This is the "golden face of mount rushmore" in terms of narcissistic accomplishment and ultimate, creative masterpiece of epic trolling.

[–]1Soarinc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I imagine it only took 2-3 people to berth bug-chasing into reality since I as well love engaging in the same deceptive activity on a recreational level as it's very fun, exciting, and enjoyable. (it's mostly harmless and keeps the internet filled with lies so as not to allow it to develop a reputation for reliability)

Bonus insinuation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sELDPP6K24Y

[–]Woshi-Wumao 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

I mean, seriously... "BAM!"? Aside from maybe dykes, what kind of woman have you ever heard use exclamations like that? There's no chance in hell that OP2 is who he says he is.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Pointed you per EC request.

[–]magus678 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Wait..people request to be ECs?

I guess I might be out of the loop on how it works. I thought it was just decided amongst the mods to award it?

[–]almagest 12 points13 points  (0 children)

An EC requested this guy get a point. ECs are appointed.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Points were given because an EC requested a mod to grant them.

[–]Soarinc 2 points2 points [recovered]

Sorry but I can't find what EC means?

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[–]Soarinc 2 points2 points [recovered]

Thank you very much! I'll admit though I feel the fact that TRP has "pointed me" makes me feel really dirty and shameful, lol. At least it was not my intent to get pointed, I am just a HUGE fan of the movie "Big Lebowski" and I just wanted to write a post in the same vein as Walter Sobchak in this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4VaY7xCmRE

[–]1Soarinc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More Walter Sobchak best scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dky_V_3izXI

[–]redpillliger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% agree. I skimmed the title, so I didn't even notice that the OP was supposedly a woman until I read it in a comment. Reading it blind, I completely thought that it was a dude talking about his brother-in-law.

[–]flyinglime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got the same feeling actually. Had to go back to the top and double check because I thought it was a man who wrote it.

[–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (8 children)

That's very interesting, I've always thought that you could tell what sex the written is, but I can never tell exactly what makes me think that.

I wish I could understand this better, so communication with women could be smoother. It has impacted me in my life at the point where I couldn't understand science teacher when they were female, because the way they explain concepts is just too far from the way I perceive them.

Is there another comment where you give more examples?

[–]1Soarinc 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I've always thought that you could tell what sex the written is, but I can never tell exactly what makes me think that.

Wouldn't you rather be able to ask yourself stuff like this? It's called "internal dialog" and takes a few years of practice but I'm capable of asking myself things like that all the time. It's kinda cool but not very useful (it just satiates curiosities but serves no actual, useful purpose)

Sure there are tons of examples. Girls always love to type exclamation marks after the word "sorry!" whenever they text. The reason for this is because they don't write sentences as men do (batches of 8-15 words at a time) but women only write linearly and never go back and delete more than (at most) 1-2 words because they are very, very apprehensive to delete a lot of words and start brand new from scratch, even if it's just 1 sentence, they have such a "loss aversion" and fear of losing their train of thought.

That's why when women write and wish to modify a sentence that they already invested 12-15 words, they will only ever go back and delete 2-3 AT MOST but will never delete like 8, 10, or 15 words like guys. This has very obvious impacts like they will literally write an extra sentence to contradict a sentence they wrote badly rather than delete parts of their bad sentence, here's an example:

I went to the mall and saw jacob and he just ignored me. I mean he looked my way and we made eye contact then he acted like I wasn't even there!! How rude!

(notice how her first sentence didn't convey as strong as impact as she wanted -- so rather than re-write the first sentence she added a 2nd sentence and a 3rd "quasi-sentence" and it's hilarious because one thing guys don't do is suddenly improvise in the middle of a sentence when we have no idea what we're doing, lol. (but girls do and I love that about them, it's so funny/cute)

[–]Eastuss 1 point2 points  (6 children)

omfg that example is exactly it! And the explanation makes lot of sense!

That's exactly why I am very often lost when listening to some women: explanation takes too long, contradictions, useless informations. I've noticed the exact same traits in some men, I would say those are people generally bad at synthesising D:

Thanks! I'll try to ask myself why I have the feeling that the writer is a woman.

I tried to craft an example myself here, but couldn't come up with a proper idea... Sometimes, I too do write my thinking flow raw, it looks like what you explain, maybe that's the thing to do.

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[–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I seek for better communication in general

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[–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand the necessity of letting your thoughts flow out, the problem is my thoughts becomes less verbal with time, they become more visual and emotional, especially for something like "what do I want to eat".

But I believe I am a passenger, my first thoughts and formulated sentences are purely emotional. I am often perceived as a dick because when I formulate these first thoughts they're mean or dumb, just emotions and no sense. This is womanly IMO. I prefer to write because it lets me time to rework my words, to make sure they exactly represent my concious thought and not the unconscious one.

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[–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I instantly had a clear idea of what I would want to do and how I would plan it. For instance, if you tell me to pick up some item at a store, I would spend exactly 5 second maximum looking at different brand and pick one according to one or two criteria. My gf would spend more time and worry about absolutely picking the best. :')

I see the point of that exercise, thanks! but I have hard time understanding how it can help, except helping me to know that I am impulsive and should take my time before talking.

[–]justinsayin 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That post wasn't written by a woman.

[–]1Soarinc 40 points41 points  (2 children)

But ehhh, I don't feel very happy or proud of him anymore.

Failure #9 women don't EVER describe what they DON'T FEEL. When describing their feelings they ALWAYS describe the exact word that they are feeling -- rather than the negated form of the word which takes opposite meaning, for example:

  • "feel sad" rather than "not feel happy"

  • "I could tell that my neighbor was angry I yelled at their dog" rather than "I could tell that my neighbor didn't appreciate it one bit when I yelled at their dog"

[–]rebeccabrixton 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Woman here: she also mentioned that these women are low leveled jobs - since when have men cared for a woman's job. They care about how attractive they are. And they are not insecure or being taking advantage of, Christ it's enough to make me want to scream at her! He's happy and shagging women and he's in the angry phase which I hope will pass. The sky is the limit dude! Don't blame him at all, he's just discovered the rules of the marketplace and he's playing his hand!!

[–]RedSyringe[S] 34 points35 points  (5 children)

Are you trying to tell me that men would rather pick up with a cute 23yo hairdresser, over an empowered 32yo jaded lawyer?? My feminist studies professor told me that women's social status is what makes them attractive.

edit: I am $60,000 in student loan debt. Plz don't tell me I've wasted it.

[–]Flaming_DragonMan 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I've noticed a trend recently where women complain that men don't care if they have a good job or a successful career. (This might be because women are starting to overtake men in the corporate world, and so they finally have job statuses that they can brag about.) I think this is primarily because both sexes have a tendency to project what they find attractive about the other sex onto themselves, and are confused when the other sex doesn't care as much about it.

I think about this a lot when I'm in the gym and I see mostly dudes; viz. men care a lot about a woman's physical appearance, and thus conclude that for women the physical appearance of a man counts for almost everything in terms of attraction. For women this same idea applies, but replace "physical appearance" with "job," as detailed above.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can't fuck her liberal arts degree from Brown, and I certainly have no interest in fucking her $200k in law school debt, even if I could.

[–]rebeccabrixton 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Precisely. There are a lot of women ignorant to the marketplace, fair enough she's married, but if she ever wasn't and she had to meet someone new, she would turn to hate her BIL for basically being a man who knows his worth. Something women don't. They often think too much of themselves!!

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and since when do women tend to be attracted to guys with their income or lower? It's pretty damn standard for guys to date girls below their paygrade, because that's a strong preference from the women involved

[–]Fulp_Piction 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Players are vilified, and the man who leaves his impregnated LTR is vilified for the same reason: abandoning the feminine imperative in favour of his own mating strategy.

Men with alpha traits are excellent daddy material. They were the only men who successfully hunted for and protected their tribe ensuring the propagation of the species.

Chad's children + The best provider she can get for her children = the feminine imperative. If she could get a man with alpha traits to commit she of course would. It would be stupid not to.

Check out The rational male's year one, there's a more thought out post that will explain it better.

[–]Returnofthemack3 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Since this is most likely a troll post, I want to address the comments, and mention that saying the character in this story is 'creepy' is hilarious. How on earth is a guy that is 29 dating girls 20-25 'creepy'? That's not even 10 years difference lol. furthermore, someone stated he's creeping on 'low income' girls! lol dont see many posts lamenting about how women creep on and manipulate higher income guys. God that sub is full of idiots

edit: I mean shit, dating stats have shown that girls tend to date above their paygrade, so i'm not sure where people get this notion that guys will be dating girls at or above their level

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 3 points4 points  (1 child)

its "creepy" because haters gonna hate. old raggedy bitches that can't get dick post wall always hate on dudes that pick younger girls over these rags. world keeps on spinnin.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yep. And as I stated in another post, who a woman is at say, 22, is a good indicator of who they truly are. Some people change, sure, but for the most part, fuck ups were fuck ups when they were younger. The idea that people change drastically in 5 years is bogus. Most people that are successful and decnet people were that way early on lol. They might have had a few things to iron out, as we all do, but the idea that sloppy, lazy druggies will somehow be a real woman someday is insane. Same goes for men. Ive known no more than a handful of people that truly surprised me later on in life

[–]1Soarinc 10 points11 points  (1 child)

But now I don't think he was viewing them as relationship material at all. Which is shocking, because prior to him becoming engrossed with this sub he was the sweetest guy who had many female friends, who wanted a steady girlfriend.

This is 100% written by a guy with asperger's who has no idea how to imitate the writing style of women who are "shocked and alarmed" about something that they are reaching out to friendly, internet strangers for advice.

This quoted piece of the OP lacks any shred of sincere emotional shock whatsoever. It's 100% poorly executed by some drunk, random beta who is definitely MGTOW but wants to troll out of boredom (not malice, thankfully)

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol yeah, that was a dead giveaway. The post is still worth linking though, because the comments are fucking gold

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Go no contact with your brother in law until he changes" Dude just wants to bust a nut and feel good about life, relax.

[–]1RPAlternate42 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When I read the comments I centered based on the search words "rape" and "misogynist" All I can think is: these women would likely find their SO extremely attractive if he did all these things, but if her SO wrote down the inner-workings of his RP mindset -the why's, the how's, and the way he views her, she'd suffer from some wild cognitive dissonance.

Of course women think this stuff is gross or misogynistic or bad... they aren't experiencing it when packaged in a man with a good physique and tight game; they just assume everyone in here is a basement-dwelling neckbeard. They assume this because they don't want to believe it works or is what they like... so they assign a shitty avatar to it.

Remember: You're only creepy if she doesn't think you're hot.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hmmm two options here

  1. it's fake and written by a guy looking to get a rise out of that sub, most stories there are fake IMO

  2. It's real but if so I get the distinct notion that the OP of that is sick of her beta husband and wants the newly alpha brother in law.

[–]Theccpalestine 5 points6 points  (5 children)

A lot of the responses say after reading TRP once, men immediately become rapists and end up in jail. I guess her 31yr brother should have stayed a suicidal beta virgin orbitter forever!

Negging is a form of emotional abuse. He is manipulating and coercing women into sex. And specifically into sex acts that they don't want. That's rape. Maybe these women don't think of themselves as having been raped, not everyone who experiences non-consensual sex feels violated or raped and that's okay. It's the survivor's right to define her experiences, and taking that power away from her is wrong. But they are fully in their rights to feel violated, assaulted, and raped. Your BIL has committed acts that qualify as rape.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Jesus plz tell me there are not people out there who think like that. It's rape based on what someone retroactively defines it as?!

[–]Dystaxia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It happens. Have a glass of water to help wash it down.

It's fear of that which terrifies me about ever having bad blood with girls I've slept with. Don't burn bridges.

[–]CrashXXL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many say it's rape if a girl even has 1 drink

[–]GIFtoGasm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They wonder why we compare women to children in certain instances. If teasing women is manipulation, maybe they should start a brown pill and wake the fuck up to rebel against standard dating practices.

Edit: yes brown pill because they're full of shit. It blows my mind that teasing is in the same sentence of rape. If they're so easy to manipulate by teasing maybe they're the problem.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is pretty terrible that he is manipulating them. Women are totally against manipulating the opposite sex. Right? Uh... Right?

[–]bloodshot_eyes 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Textbook example of a woman lamenting the loss of one of her orbitters. Before he was just so nice gosh darn it! Now he has no validation or amusement to provide me at all!

The only mistake this guy made was mentioning TRP in real life. Let this be a lesson to all of you: think as you please, but behave like everyone else. DO NOT discuss TRP or its tenets with outsiders, because they will never understand it, and they will hate you for it.

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[–]2IVIaskerade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not in the sidebar because if you don't understand it without having it spelled out to you, you aren't going to be able to parse the rest of the material either.

[–]adam_varg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It already is.

If you dont even remember rule number and two which is the simplest part of trp basics you should go and read sidebar again.

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I have mentioned it (TRP) to my wife. Her response was "If it makes you that much more attractive, then why aren't you already doing it?"

Oddly, one of her pieces of advice... Don't ever stop being a lovable asshole. Admittedly, that used to be one of my faults. I was always super nice, especially toward women. When I started being selfish, respecting and doing me, I started getting female attention.

I mentioned that to my wife and she said most women will milk an easy mark, especially if it's low or no cost to them.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. If they think that you have done something specifically to better yourself, and it wasn't intrinsic it is somehow fake. I bet she is disappointed to lose that comfort of "at least I won't ever be as thirsty as that loser."

[–]Venicedreaming 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The comment that pointed out most RP end up with good looking but damaged women and further consolidating AWALT theory is not bad. The average bar hopper girl isn't going to make a good quality wife. Your one night stand is of course likely to be shallow and vapid, one you don't even want to talk to the next day. The Game theory pointed this out as well, and why in theory if you want a good life partner, it should be applied toward a quality mate, emphasize on confidence and less negging. But applying it to only to easy lays at the bars is going to set you a camp there permanently. Some people don't want a life partner because women are stupid and such arguments, that's fine, your life experience has taught you reservation in women. But personally, I find great improvement in quality of life in sharing it with a dependable partner. Especially if your partner is a decent feminine quality woman who is not causing problems in your life

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get this. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife, hoes don't act right.

But I'm in my 30s now. The women my age are AWALT post-wall skanks looking for betabux. Even if TRP didn't filter out the 4 remaining wholesome women left on planet earth, women 25 and under looking to date guys my age tend not to be looking for LTRs in the first place.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 3 points4 points  (2 children)

"Targeting women with low self esteem" Yeah, I'm sure that's why he got into their pants. It can't be nothing to do with the fact women in their twenties find men who are in their thirties more attractive than men in their twenties because they have more of their life sorted out. Bitch sounds jealous and bitter to me. Funny how women have it great when they are young, but when they start hitting the wall and men start getting it good they hate it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By that logic all women have low self esteem lol

[–]joh2141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It always makes me laugh how women criticize TRP stance on women. Should listen to what women's stance on men are and it really isn't that different from us. But when women criticize us they are "precocious/smart." When men do it we are misogynistic. Some double standard huh?

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad I'm not the only one who realized this post reads like an advertisement testimonial.

Gotta be fake.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She complained about negging but she doesn't know that negging has been around as a PUA method for like 20+ years before TRP ever existed. Also she is never going to get through to him by essentially saying "hey you know that thing you do that gets you laid? Stop doing it." Good luck with that.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before that, even. It was codified by PUAs.

[–]inspiron3000 8 points9 points  (3 children)

She seems to be far more interested in her brother-in-law than what is usual or healthy.
There's a lot of projection in this article.

I'm tempted to think that the woman has the tingles for her BiL.

These two happy friends are regulars here.
He will find out that she posted this.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I know aye. Next week: why is my husband such a pussy.

[–]rigbed 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If this post was really written by a woman that'd be true

[–]inspiron3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was something odd about the story, almost too desperate.

[–]Fulp_Piction 3 points4 points  (8 children)

The thing about sexual strategy is that for man to fulfil his biological imperative (riding many bitches), woman's imperative (get pregnant by alpha and secure a relationship to protect herself and her child) must fail. To paraphrase Rollo; this is why, as we're in a fem-centric society, the nice guy who supports a single mom is a societal hero, but the player is vilified.

This chick is seeing her imperative fail, and it's leaving a bitter taste.

[–]Woshi-Wumao 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Players aren't vilified. Betas pretending to be alphas are vilified.

Because her imperative doesn't actually include securing a relationship with an alpha... her imperative is to get impregnated by an alpha and secure a relationship with a good provider for her genetically superior children.

Alpha's ain't good daddy material, given that they're impossible to control and divided among many women. Betas, however, serve that role joyously, in exchange for an occasional shag (but not too often, lest the woman accidentally get knocked up with his inferior sperm rather than that of the alpha she's busy banging every chance she gets).

Chad's children + beta bux provider = the female imperative. Simple as that.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Disagree. The ideal is to get chad's child AND commitment, but as Chad won't commit, she settles for someone else's providership.

[–]Woshi-Wumao 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Never in the history of the world has an alpha committed to a bitch. Maybe to her face, sure. Or on Facebook. Or for publicity purposes.

But behind closed doors you can guarantee he's fucking his assistant, his mistress, his xiaosan, his neighbor, and anyone else who's hot enough to get a piece... and when his "committed" bitch starts getting old and controlling and starts racking up the miles, he trades her in for a younger, tighter model.

That ain't commitment. That's playing the game. Any woman who plays for alpha commitment is an utter fool doomed to failure and quite possibly the end of her genetic lineage, i.e., a single mom on the prowl for her BB at 35 ain't got the odds stacked in her favor anymore.

I'm not saying some (or even most) women don't try to get alphas to commit. But those who do, are every bit as retarded as guys who white-knight up thinking that's going to get them closer to pussy. Society is fucking up everyone's sexual strategy -- not just men's.

Plus, Chad ain't got no "providership" to speak of. A STEM nerd, as a rule, is going to earn more than Chad. Women don't want Chad for his money; they want him for his sperm.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Your definition of both alpha and chad are both absurd, and highly limiting.

In fact, so limiting that I doubt a single real human that has ever lived manages to meet either. Please get off your computer, and go meet real humans. Yo're doing yourself a grave disservice by silo'ing yourself on the internet away from reality.

[–]Woshi-Wumao 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I can see why you find my definition "limiting."

Protip: Expanding the definition of Alpha to include yourself doesn't make you any less of a beta.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Cool story, keyboard commando. Have you tired reality yet? The resolution is better than 4k.

[–]Woshi-Wumao 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is "Reality" what you named your fleshlight?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Squeak squeak

haha.... damn that man for being a man rather than a mangina.

great observations OP.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Top comment says TRP is leading BIL to sociopathy, which will end with him raping someone. Wow.

One question for BIL, why is he talking so much about TRP? Seems to have gone off the reservation a tad.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yeah. The only reason to talk about TRP in person is if you're trying to help a mate out. There is nothing to be gained personally from it.

Also I am pretty sure that being a sex-starved incel is more likely to result in a violent outburst than improving his game and getting results.

[–]BoringNormalGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree with both of your points. If I am bringing up TRP, it's a concept in TRP and not the red pill itself.

My favorite thing about the redpill, is the solution to everyday issues like "where do you want to eat?" Before the Redpill, I tried to get her to pick, and always was frustrated that she never would, and never realized how this hurt me. Now I'm just like "fuck it, let's go to McDonalds."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all know that self improvement is the first step on the path to life in prison!

[–]0kool74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Top comment says TRP is leading BIL to sociopathy, which will end with him raping someone. Wow

Funny...........I was told the same thing recently. At first I was completely dumbfounded. After further thought, I was like.....yep......typical response.

[–]stemgang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women don't want men to succeed, not even their own sons and brothers.

They complain about objectification, when they want to turn men into walking wallets.

As far as they are concerned, we are raised to provide for a woman. If we have sex without committing to provisioning, then we are cheating the system.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This story is brilliant.

He started making a stable on Tinder and his sister found out. And she's mad because he doesn't feel guilt. It's a cliché.

[–]WhatUPbRUTSKI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is awesome! Good for him!

[–]Sensei_Hensei 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Shit like this is not good for the sport and brings unwanted attention to TRP

[–]WallStRogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bitch's jelly

probably fantasizes about fuck him now that he's an alpha.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the post is real... then she's hating herself because she's slowly becoming attracted to BIL

[–]-uftw- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TL;DR: my feelings about you are more important than your own happiness in life. I want you to continue to be my toy beta loser relative because it was cute.

[–]hahayeahthatscool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

glad other people are spotting troll shit better

tbh methods like that should always be looked down upon, shits lame

[–]half-spin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That reads like a paid advertisement for TRP

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wondered when this would show up here. I legitimately wondered if it was a troll. It's so perfect. It's literally everything we talk about on display.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

username of OP there is "throwawaysecretfeels"? yeah.. fake as fuck. OP that you?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

:( my brother in law happy with a good sex life, he's had sex with 3 women and hasn't dated each of them for 6 months, what a cheap shag scoring mysoginist!!!

[–]LordThunderbolt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was so happy reading how fast her hamster was spinning and how rustled her jimmies were. She makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, as expected, because she's obligated to push her female leaning view. The guy is just killing it out there and its not ij her favor. Before he was nice and sweet and wanted a gf and a fairy tale, but he was getting none. Now he turned into a hard motherfucker and is piercing pussies left and right so something must be wrong. Why isn't he looking to get tied fown by one girl who will make him miserable? Why doesn't he provide ressources to some girl?

[–]BloodRedAlert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that brother-in-law shouldn't had argued with that woman and mention red pill shit

[–]tb87670 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Holy shit, those words sound almost EXACTLY as if they came from my brother's wife and her opinion of me. Literally, as I read it, I had a chill down my spine this post was talking about me. When she got to that part where she said he was 31 then I relaxed, thought I was about doxxed for real.........

[–]RedSyringe[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hey mate. I figured whoever she wrote it about would see it if it hit our front page. There's no reason why she wouldn't have changed that one detail man. Especially if the rest lines up accurately. I would consider deleting this account.

Edit: you should also read the rest of her comments (through the profile), it will probably give you more info.

[–]tb87670 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't think it's me she's describing in that post. She described a scenario about going to movies. Me and my brother were not going to do that. It's fucking uncanny though, 90% of her posts seem to apply exactly to my situation and the perception my brother's wife would have, it's kinda unsettling. Big thing is mention of him working retail for years. Does not apply to me. Overall the most of the words seem like a dead-on ringer of my sister in-law but a lot of finer details don't match. I really think I am in the clear but next time I'm around her I'm going to act accordingly. Maybe act pure beta around her and gauge reaction, stuff like that. That move brought out the crazy in lots of other women before.

[–]Recioman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

remember: if your life is miserable and the people near you (friends and family) don't do anything they are passively supporting your misery and will oppose any form of improvement.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Troll or not, this guy is fucking up by making it clear he's a red piller. Also fucking up by depending on a woman for emotional support.

You can't be so open about your views, especially controversial ones. I guess lying has always come naturally to me.

Whenever my female relations ask me about women, I tell them I haven't found the right girl yet, or that I like a girl in my class but I'm too shy to talk to her.

In reality, I'm spinning 3 plates.

They all think I'm this ultra nice guy beta, which is the perfect way to be seen by women you don't want to have sex with.

Think as you like, but behave like others.

Post-TRP, I have an excellent understanding of social dynamics. Lots of research backed by years of watching people interact.

Going full-TRP is generally a bad idea, unless you're with a woman you aren't going to see ever again, who has no ties to your social circle.

In general, when it comes to power, you want everyone to like you, while respecting you. You have to constantly play certain roles in different social situations. If you are a constant TRP asshole, a lot of guys are going to despise you. It's a constant balancing act between alpha asshole / beta nice guy, all the while displaying amused mastery and a self assurance that comes from knowing 95% of people aren't on your level.

Guy tries to fuck with you - alpha

Just learned someone you know has died while with your circle of (male and female) friends - beta

Interacting with an old lady you obviously don't want to bang - beta

Talking with dudes your own age about women - alpha

Talking with women your own age about women - beta

This is how I determine how to act in social situations.

I think anybody who follows a philosophy fanatically is doing something wrong. I've taken a lot of good stuff from TRP, but not everything. I critically analyse my situation and determine how to act after that. I don't blindly follow TRP principles in everything I do.

[–]soviet_dissident 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This reminds me of Viagra ads, where the biggest selling point is couched as a negative, "call your physician if an erection lasts more than X hours." The listener, who has ostensibly not had a solid erection in quite some time, thinks to himself, "now THAT would be a good problem to have---take my money!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

She's operating under the assumption that the women her brother in law fucked are looking for a relationship and he has somehow wronged them.

[–]ZEROthePHRO 0 points1 point  (1 child)

According to OP's comments, there was at least one that he left "heartbroken"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No way on earth this post is real. "Negging" is a word used by maybe 1% of the population, and certainly not by the people who dislike TRP.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

good point

besides clues like that it seemed like it could have been real, the cluelessness seems genuine so it'd be a true female.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

Translation - I can no long shove my mind cock into his moist pink brain thus blowing a load of emotions out through his nose. Just like other girls do to that emotional slut bag. Now he doesn't even want to leave his genetics inside me. Just like he does to other girls. Oh, phooey.

[–]ICUMTARANTULAS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can I get TRP advice? Cause I'm pretty beta shit and am tired of it.

[–]slackalicious -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Hey guys just wondering I know Incels faces alot of flack so is this where some of them go to get more of their opinions out there? They don't have alot of subscribers so it makes sense to me that they would go for the next best thing.

[–]RedSyringe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi. I wasn't sure where you might be coming from with this post, but I read one of your previous posts.

These poeple might have ventured over from r-TheRedPill because those guys can literally not fathom the idea of their imaginary women not having sex with them at their every whim.

You are not a member of this community, and you do not know the people you are writing about. Go away. Also, congrats on your weight loss.