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Have you ever been so much of a beta that you felt ashamed for not liking fat chicks, and posted a long confession on Reddit begging for feminists to forgive you? (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by needsomehelp3211

Summary: In our rapidly beta-fying progressive world, if you are a male with a physical dating preference - then you are a shitlord and need to be ashamed of yourself. That's the end goal of feminism, to strip men of dignity and agency.

Original post here.

I'm just gonna say this outright, I'm not attracted to fat women. I see obesity as an unhealthy disease epidemic that's gripping the United States and I don't want to be with someone who doesn't take care of their body. Plus, a fat shapeless form just doesn't arouse me and I don't need to apologize for that.

The above paragraph is just common sense, you may imagine. Think again. I stumbled across a post on the okcupid subreddit (which is dominated by third wave pink-haired social justice types) that was basically a man flagellating himself in public for not being attracted to an obese woman. I can't imagine the lack of spine and self-confidence this man must have to be so ashamed of his own sexuality and desires. It's pitiful.

Warning. The OP is a waste of your time, so please only continue reading if you're at work and need to kill some time anyway.

Long story long: She messaged me first. One of maybe 2 or 3 women to ever message me first, and I find that kind of initiative to be attractive. She looks beautiful in her pictures, and after some light flirting, we make plans to meet up. She had full body pics, so I was aware of her size, but I've dated/hooked up with curvy women before without issue.

(For context, I am 5'10", 210lbs, most of which is muscle, have much broader shoulders than waist and only a bit of a belly. I probably fit into the "dad bod" category, but less pudgy and more defined. Most people assume I work out/lift weights, but I just have a naturally "built" body-type. My preference is to be with a woman who is smaller than me, which, given my size, includes women who would be considered curvier.)

When we first meet I see she is a little larger than I expected (easily the heaviest woman I've ever been with), but she has a very beautiful face so I wasn't thrown off. The date goes great. We have a ton in common (similar backgrounds/upbringing, interests, favorites, humor, etc.) and are definitely into each other. We kiss/make out at the end of the night and even make plans for a second date later that weekend.

During that first date she even mentions that she has had the lap band surgery a few years ago and lost 115 lbs. She showed me a picture of her former self and mentioned that she was well into the 300's at the time of the surgery. So (doing some mental math), I figured out she is somewhere in the 200's currently at 5'4" - which should give you an idea of her body type. I guess you could call her "apple shaped".

Fast forward to now. We've been on 6 or so dates over the last 2.5 weeks. She has introduced me to some of her friends, and I've introduced her to some of mine. We have fun, enjoy each others' company, flirt constantly, make out/kiss a lot, but have not had sex.

I'm fine with the waiting before sex (prefer it, actually), but last night she hinted at it happening soon, and suddenly I was confronted with the truth: I am not attracted to her body at all. I can't physically wrap my arms around her to hold her tight. I can't touch her back without being hyper-aware of the fat folds. I can't look at other, skinnier women, without thinking "If I could just put her head onto that body, she would be the perfect woman for me." I don't want to see her naked.

I know she is intensely attracted to me - she tells me frequently. As a result I just feel like this awful, shallow, scumbag that refuses to get with "fat chicks". I'm not looking forward to sex with her at all, and know that it isn't fair to her to continue this kind of relationship when I have a hangup as significant as this. My heart is telling me to end it before I hurt her even more so, but when the only real problem is "too fat", there is no avoiding a horribly uncomfortable and insulting conversation.

A couple of Redpill points to be made here.

One: Notice how he can't even bring himself to call her fat. "Bigger than I expected". "Apple-shaped". "Plus-sized". This beta has done what I previously thought only women could do - he has a hamster. And it's running at full tilt trying to avoid calling a fat woman fat because that might hurt her precious feelings. This is what a feminized society does to young male minds.

Two: He just can't get those words "no fat chicks" out of his mouth. He spins a yarn about how beautiful she is except she doesn't make his dick hard (WTF? What definition of beautiful are you even using here?). That he's sooooo attracted to her except not really because she looks like a watermelon. Again, a natural byproduct of feminism. Men are starting to lose the ability to be strong and confident in their own desires. If you're a man in a progressive space and you have preferences... you better be able to defend them like you're being cross-examined in a court, you shitlord! Because it makes women mad to hear that men won't accept all of their flaws.

TL;DR: The modern male is unable to voice his preference because women's feelings always come first in our society. It's fucking ridiculous.


[–]Casanova-Quinn 228 points229 points  (55 children)

I am 5'10", 210lbs, most of which is muscle

only a bit of a belly

Most people assume I work out/lift weights, but I just have a naturally "built" body-type.

LOL that hamster. Dude claims he's "mostly" muscle but has a belly and he doesn't lift. Come on son.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 53 points54 points  (16 children)

210lbs at 5'10" is way to heavy to be mostly muscle without working out. He's full of shit.

[–]InChargeMan 29 points30 points  (1 child)

*He's probably full of burritos if I had to guess.

[–]illusorypermanence 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do burritos count as muscle?

[–]landon042 7 points8 points  (0 children)

210 at semi lean 12% or even 15% is jacked at that height

dude is delusional

[–]Data_Mining_Machine 32 points32 points [recovered]

210 at 5'10" is downright obese. What a disgusting pile of beta

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 6 points7 points  (8 children)

I'm 5'10" 232lbs and a powerlifter. 36 inch waist. Not obese.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Still kinda pudgy. Im 6'0 230 34 inch waist and still have some fart on me

[–]turn20left 40 points41 points  (0 children)

That's gotta smell terrible.

[–]FreeRadical5 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He's not a powerlifter. Obese.

[–]Data_Mining_Machine 8 points8 points [recovered]

I'm 5'10" workout everyday, run and lift, worked my way down from 225 to 170. Dude, that's heavy unless you're Arnold. Maybe you are idk...just saying that sounds heavy to me

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My trainer is 5'5", 240 and built like a brick wall of hate.

[–]AceBenedict23 12 points13 points  (0 children)

5'5 240 Jesus how much gear is that little fucker on? If he's anything resembling lean there is no way on Earth he is even YouTube natty

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The heck. I'm the same height 170 lbs 32" waist. Lol...

[–]1nzgs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily obese but getting to 210lbs lean is not easy at all, even most lifters with those stats are fat to some degree. Anyone who doesn't lift with those stats is certainly fat though.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I want to agree, but I am 6'1" and 260.

People keep asking if I lost weight and if I work out. Even my doctor.

HOWEVER I was in the army for 8 years. So clearly I built some muscle. At my best I was 240 with a BMI of like 12%- 14%. I'd fail weight but I had a 32" waist.

I'm fat now. I admit that shit easy. But I don't look anywheres near my real weight.

What do I know though. I can't guesstimate looks by weight anyway. (No sarcasm. I legit have no idea what 5'10" at 210 looks like)

For reference. The army says my ideal weight was supposed to be 185. I havent been 185 since I was 16. I joined the army at 17.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's also bullshit, according to weight to height ratio Brock Lesnar is obese lol....

[–]InChargeMan 71 points72 points  (20 children)

Big flabby muscle...

Many people don't realize that there is a ton of fat inside the chest cavity around your organs. i.e. they imagine that underneath that few inches of belly fat are some really sweet abs. In reality, you just have a bunch of fat on the inside too, pushing everything out.

[–]montagematt 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I like how he describes himself as mostly muscle and then follows that with saying he has a dad bod. lol

[–]thor_away92 11 points12 points  (8 children)

I can you tell @510 165lb (actually mostly muscle) that just isn't the truth.

I was 210 before and was fat as fucking fuck.

[–]Femdom_Cuckold 6 points7 points  (7 children)

This, you can't be under 15% and 210 lbs at 5'10 unless youre roiding

Anyone natty and above 200 at 5'10 is going to look like shit regardless of whether they lift

[–]ItalianoVero 2 points3 points  (0 children)

6'4" and I don't have a full six pack until 200lbs.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I was a fat fuck at 6', 210lbs and I was lifting at the time. Now I'm 190 and doing macros and I still have a bit of excess fat.

[–]nexus974 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

What do you consider a fat fuck? I'm 6', 200 pounds, 34 waist. I lift 4-5 days a week and am moderately muscular. I don't fall under any definition of fat fuck.

[–]2red4u 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I lift 4-5 days a week

You know how I know you're lying?

Because if you're really that into lifting you would look in the mirror and think you're still small / fat even if you look like fucking Arnold. #foreversmall

[–]usmcdotmil 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That's one hell of a hamster you have spinning up there

[–]Femdom_Cuckold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lelz you're the fatass hamstering if you think that's possible at that height

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 11 points12 points  (0 children)

i know. nigga thinks he's arnold.

[–]vagbutters 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That describes your avrage beta-- skinny fat or scrawny.

[–]hahayeahthatscool 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Been lifting for two years and I can't even say I'm mostly muscle. My muscle to fat ratio pisses me off. How do these people rationalize shit like this.

[–]1nzgs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone wants to believe they are more muscular and less fat than they are. Seems to be more prevalent among people who never dieted properly. Someone who is quite heavy and has some veins in his arms and a barrel torso is going to want to believe that he's a muscular guy when in reality he's probably carrying 50lbs of pure fat.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guarantee he has a beard that takes up real estate on his chin. Both of them.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 102 points103 points  (3 children)

Hilarious....

when I have a hangup as significant as this

hahaha hangup. Attraction is an instinctive preference that can't be negotiated with, not a "hangup".

there is no avoiding a horribly uncomfortable and insulting conversation

Only if you owe women an explanation. You don't. What woman ever sat down with a guy and said "I'm sorry to say you are too beta around me and do too much stuff for me, and your abs aren't well enough defined for me to be attracted to you". Nope, they say "it's not you it's me" and "I need to be alone right now [alone with Chad]" and "I'm not ready for this [with you]" and "maybe if I'd found you later in life [when I'm less attractive]".

Men... we don't owe women an explanation... we can just say "This isn't working for me", and then END THE CONVERSATION.

You can't make her happy as you dump her, but after you walk away she'll mop up her crocodile tears and hit the social media validation machine, tell all her friends what an asshole you are, and be fine in a couple of hours. Don't sweat dumping her, she doesn't care about you, only herself.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 21 points22 points  (0 children)

exactly. guys go on dates and after the first date the girl becomes distant or sometimes just goes no contact even though the date went "great". they just didn't get into the guy, that's all. they don't sit there and prolong it. they next someone they're not into. fuck the explanation. no contact and peace the fuck out.

[–]ingenjor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha, reminds me of the time when one girl actually told me that the reason she didn't want to continue seeing me was because I wasn't dominant enough. Well, I took it to heart and we smashed anyway so I got over it.

[–][deleted] 220 points221 points  (53 children)

A friend sent me a pic with a girl checking a pregnancy test. It read "just fat", and I thought it was funny. The liberal SJW guy in our office saw the same pic and went on a rant on how fat shaming saddens him.

[–]OSaraiva 129 points130 points  (3 children)

Sad is a sjw normal of everyday life.

[–]SetConsumes 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Something they look forward to, they get off on it.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's true. Religious Masochism.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 76 points77 points  (17 children)

Obviously it's ok to shame people who fat-shame. I call this fat-shame-shaming.

Fat-shaming has positive health benefits on those around you and should be encouraged.

Fat-shame-shaming decreases people's life expectancy and encourages unhealthy and unattractive fatness in those around you.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 58 points59 points  (2 children)

That makes you a fat-shame-shamer shamer.

[–]1Original_Dankster 12 points13 points  (0 children)

And the world is just a little bit better off because of it.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

some of those cancel out, just leaves you with fat-shamer. That's PEMDAS or some shit

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love it. Even if you are fat-shame-shame-shaming

[–]beginner_ 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The more fat people die young, the less problem we have with pension systems all around the Western world...One could even think it's intentional.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yes, but they would still extract a huge amount of healthcare dollars before they die young. So it's a wash

[–]beginner_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah but money saved on their pension is far higher than additonal health care costs.

In fact smokers don't use more health care money in total. About the same just in 2 decades less time

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 10 points11 points  (8 children)

Obesity is a trait of mediocrity.

[–]RPmatrix 3 points4 points  (6 children)

pffft! Your comment is an example of naive mediocrity

It's easy making such fallcious comments Dysfunctional Brother. Where is your Proof?

Becoming 'overweight' to the point of "obesity" has many 'causes' --- with "mindless eating" playing a very large part for many, but not all!

Being "thoughtless" is 'easy' = not hard, (sadly) this world is Full of naive, thoughtless people, some of whom are 'obese' and many are just Fat. "Mediocre minds are 'thoughtless' ...

I guess people like Steve Wozniak and Alfred Hitchcock, to name but two 'obese' people were/are 'mediocre' according to your metric?

How many 'mediocre' skinny people do you know?

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Looks like you lack reading comprehension. I said it's a trait of mediocrity, i didn't say if a person is overweight they are mediocre. Steve Wozniak and Alfred Hitchcock were greats because they had other traits beside being overweight that made them greats of their time.

[–]Cynewald 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its o.k to shame a short man, a skinny man, a baby faced 20-something... or even a bald man. Its a crime to tell a hippo she's too fat for a date. Putting the hippo in hypocrite, literally.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Every time I see an SJW get uppity like that, I'm reminded of the 'I HAVE SINNED!' moment from Jimmy Swaggart. The mixture of shame, anger, the complete lack of authenticity ... and all because a supposedly morally superior person figured they could put on a public show of self indignant rage and get a slide on it.

[–]SigmaMu 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Just fat

Kek.

The lack of fat shaming in our society saddens me. Truly, deeply, saddens me. They don't even look like people to me. They look like a cross between a person and a sack of shit.

[–]PM_me_your_fistbump 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Imagine how much more happiness, energy, motivation, and confidence these sad fat sjw's would have if they had a value system that included physical fitness.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There's a lot of fat shaming in our society. There's recently been a chunk of "body acceptance". But for the most part people still make fun of others for being fat. I literally had a fat friend Snapchat me a video of an even fatter random person walking down the street, and making fun of them. You're just so used to it that it doesn't register.

But I'm confused as to why you want more? It's obviously not effective. If people are actually bothered by the obesity epidemic they would be putting their efforts into promoting healthy habits. The truth is that you love how many fat people there are. Because it makes you feel better about yourself. You're automatically more attractive than a large portion of the country just by being at a healthy weight. You want obesity to go away? Well guess what? If you're alone now, just imagine being surrounded by millions of hot males who lost weight. And suddenly you're at the bottom of the barrel. I also think it just slightly pisses you off that a fat guy can get an attractive girl yet you can't get anyone. Here's a tip: you have a shitty personality :)

[–]SigmaMu 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I don't give a fuck who's healthy and who's not. I care about people who have turned their body into a grotesquerie and then parade around in public. It's offensive. It's inconsiderate of others.

I wish they were blurred out of my vision like an episode of COPS.

It doesn't offend me that they have sex just like it doesn't offend me that pigs have sex, but at least that produces bacon.

[–]graffix13 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Can I get a copy of that pic? haha

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Took a little searching on google image search, but this was the one that my SJW coworker thought was so mean spirited:

https://pics.onsizzle.com/clearblue-just-fat-thank-god-3508152.png

That poor poor stock photo lady. I'm not sure how we sleep at night, us other guys in the office are monsters!

[–]daprospecta 4 points5 points  (2 children)

When did being an alpha mean being an asshole? If you have a friend addicted to drugs, do you approach him like "look at you you fucking junkie!" or do you approach him like "We'll get you through this." Sometimes, feelings shouldn't be spared but calling her a fat ass just cause is some bull shit especially if she has been nothing but nice to him.

[–]JohnSunBlack 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I agree completely. Since when is being respectful blue pill? I probably missed that memo. The only thing that stood out to me as blue pill was the fact that he asked advice for a problem he already knows how to solve. He just needs to grow some balls and tell that girl he isn't physically attracted to her. End of story. No reddit advice is going to make it easier.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You'd be amazed at how often people ask for advice when their problem would simply be solved by communicating.

[–]0kool74 3 points4 points  (6 children)

all SJWs should swing from a tree branch!

[–]TissueBabies 4 points5 points  (5 children)

So you're for hanging people because they have a different viewpoint?

[–]0kool74 6 points7 points  (1 child)

it would be ok if they just had a different viewpoint. but they use threats, intimidation, and in some cases violence to pressure others into accepting their point of view. and for that I stick with my original statement.

[–]TissueBabies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By that logic you should hang yourself too.

[–]1kick6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Differing views are welcome. Coerced agreement which is what separates someone from having a viewpoint and bring g an SJW, isn't.

[–]adam_varg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, because they are commies

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I shared that on FB yesterday and got so many "likes". lol. People innately know truths

[–]bigk12345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I laughed out loud when I read you friends comment and instantly got angry at the SJW's nonsense.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

For a sub that seems to revolve around guys whining about not having sex, you'd think you'd all be at least somewhat nice to women.

There's no real SJW about it. You're just being an asshole. If you want to defend your right to be an asshole that's perfectly fine. But then stop acting like the world is screwing you over because boo hoo no one likes you and you can't get laid.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Right, because you, someone who is completely absorbed and preoccupied with using women for sex, think women are the shallow ones. You know exactly how the system works and yet can't get it to work for you. It's a complete mystery to us all.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I suppose I wouldn't agree with the assertion that I'm "completely absorbed and preoccupied" with using women for sex, but when it comes down to it, that's where I would place the majority of my value in my relationships with them. Unfortunately, I think that many western women were socialized in a way that's damaging to the male female relationship dynamic, so finding a long term relationship just might not be viable in this environment. What is easy, however, is having sex with a lot of women without offering any commitment.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

In what way are women socialized that's damaging the relationship between us and men?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That's a pretty hard question to answer in a short comment reply... there's just so much ground to cover on it, and it's not a problem exclusive to just women.

For the male side of the problem, a good starting place would be to read "The War Against Boys" by Christina Sommers. From an early age boys in western countries, like the US, have been taught that normal masculine boy behaviors are "bad", and taught to behave more like little girls. Sit quiet in your seat, little boy, take your Ritalin, and don't play rough sports with the other boys during your 20 minute daily recess. This issue has only gotten worse, with recent school curriculum being pushed through from Common Core. They're being conditioned into being wimps.

On the female side? There's clearly a lack of chastity going on.... STDs are having a quiet little epidemic at the moment. Watch out for that antibiotic resistant gonorrhea! Haha, you know.... hookup culture, women have no shame in having a lot of sexual partners now... The NCHS recently had 80% divorces filed by women. Feminism has taught a lot of women that masculinity is bad, men are an evil enemy that must be defeated, that men aren't needed. It can be argued that efforts have been made in laws, to replace women's dependence on men, to a dependence on the government instead.

We have tax payer funded schools with Women's Studies teachers out there making women read books written by individuals who HATE men, and try to brainwash young women that men are scary rapists that want to oppress them. There's this victim mindset, where it's put out there that a male dominated system is to blame for all women's problems. They're told that if they're not happy, it's probably a man's fault.

No more slut shaming. Fat acceptance. You have no right to judge me for my actions! If she's sucked a million cocks in her past, it shouldn't matter. There's no accountability anymore. If she's fat, your a bad person for not seeing the beauty in it. Nevermind the health consequences. She should be able to go out and get the same job as a man, with more experience, even though her resume is only 1 in a pile of 50, because she has a vagina. There's this entitlement that infects everything. I'm OWED this. I didn't work as hard to have it, but its my RIGHT to have these things.

Pair that feminism indoctrinated woman with the boy brainwashed into being a total wimp, and you have a common young married couple these days. He doesn't know how to behave like a man, and she doesn't know how to behave like a decent woman, so they're just a train wreck waiting to happen.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wow. So much of this is just complete bull. First, telling a kid to sit still is not a feminine characteristic. It has nothing to do with gender whatsoever. I also don't know what boys are taught not to play sports except on a case by case basis. And that's characteristic of civilized society, to rebel against primal instincts to be physical with others. Because it's no longer necessary to survive in society. But even so, sports are just as popular as they've ever been. Take a look at a country like China. They don't participate in sports in nearly the level that Americans do, they focus on conformity, politeness, and academia. And they don't have any of these supposed relationship issues.

And on the female side? Women are hardly anymore sexually active than they used to be. They're just more open about it. You know teen pregnancy rates are lower than they've ever been? Girls who got pregnant used to be swept away to live quietly in communes to keep up the appearance that society is perfect. You really don't have a grasp on how little has changed in relationships over time. And the divorce rate is hardly relevant. Why don't you consider that 29% of women have admitted to being in an abusive relationship with a partner (which would include myself)? Before, women were forced to stay in those marriages. Not to mention, women used to not work outside the home and therefore did not have the means to leave a bad marriage. Or how about the survey that reported 25% of men admit to having extramarital affairs? Women filing for divorce does not reflect a change in relationships, only a change in their ability to leave marriages they would have in the past if they were able.

Not to mention, you don't seem to have any issue with men being sluts. To you, the root of relationship problems is women wanting to sleep around and not commit, but not men doing the same? Men have acted this way since the dawn of time.

And in all of this, you're using incredibly small sample sizes to represent a giant portion of the population. You have submersed yourself in feminist culture and act as if that is the norm. Maybe you live exclusively on Tumblr, but that is not the way most of the world works. That's like living in Hillary Clinton's campaign trailer and then acting like the whole world adores Hillary Clinton. It's like you're propagandizing yourself.

Most relationships are operating the same as they always have. You've allowed this warped group to brainwash you with feminist-like doctrine that's just flipped to suit men. Men in this group, and feminazis alike want to victimize yourself way beyond what is realistic or even rational. And you do so in an attempt to make the world serve your needs. You live in a world where guys cannot have a committed relationship with a nice girl because YOU cannot secure a committed relationship. That is either the fault of you or the particular women you pursue. My husband and I have a healthy relationship. Neither of us went around hooking up before we met. 90% of my friends are in committed relationships. You have submersed yourself in a very warped sense of reality. This group and your indoctrinated beliefs are toxic and not at all based on reality.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have time to educate you on the way the school system has been short changing young boys. If you look into The War on Boys, like I suggested, it would be a good start on understanding, although like I already mentioned, the situation has worsened since the book was written.

Single parents generally have always struggled more than parents that are together in regards to raising children. If you take even a slight glance at the statistics of children raised by single mothers, it's clear society doesn't prosper when families fail. While history has shown many examples of the inherent lack of loyalty in women, most civilized societies adopted social controls to curb this. Pretty much all our modern religions are an example.

You can look down at my lack of desire for a LTR, but I'm just doing what makes sense for my own interests... rather than, say, marrying some bitter post wall lady whose ex husband used to beat her.

Ehem! That reminds me guys, always flinch test your plates! If you raise your hand and she flinches into a wall, you should next her. Drama awaits those who don't head my kind and thoughtful warning!

[–]fearl3ss 66 points67 points  (1 child)

A great cure for "ED" is often a younger, skinnier, hornier girl riding your cock.

[–]stoicismexpress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This needs to be on billboards

[–]Grimsterr 44 points45 points  (9 children)

Well, to answer the question in the topic "No".

You are attracted to what you are attracted to, it'd be just as silly to apologize for not being gay. Which is something I'm worried is a coming trend, too.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Obese unattractive male gets approached by an obese female, decides to settle because he can't do any better.Then he realizes he can't stomach settling for something he's not attracted to. Is struggling with cognitive dissonance.

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 12 points13 points  (0 children)

There's only one cure for that sort of problem. More Kettle-bell.

[–]says_harsh_things 22 points23 points  (1 child)

avoid calling a fat woman fat because that might hurt her precious feelings.

In my experience, guys who pussyfoot around the truth like this are doing so because they are afraid of the shitstorm that comes from other girls and white knights.

Like with many other things, they dont realize that taking an 'appeasing' position like 'all women are beautiful' causes them to lose respect.

[–]En-Zu 18 points19 points  (19 children)

This is actually pretty relevant to my life right now. I recently (yesterday) went out with a girl that was exactly like this. Nice face, decent if uninteresting personality (conventional), a lil too fat for me. It was pleasant as just company.

I kind of feel bad for just dropping her though based on weight though but it can't be helped. It will happen sooner or later. Also it's a bit narcissistic to assume that it will really hurt their feelings that much. I barely know them ha. Best not to lead people on because of lack of willingness to break hard truths. I'm just thinking there's got to be a good way to say this though that's not ghosting or being rude about it...

Ideally women would stop putting me in this situation by putting up flattering pictures of their face and don't show their full body. I shouldn't feel bad because it's really their fault when you look at it that way.

Also some girl I was texting called me an ass yesterday because she said she didn't want to meet with me b/c she felt too fat at the time and didn't want me to see her that way and I told her that was fine. Then she wanted me to send her pics of people I thought were fat to see if she "had a chance" so I did and she got mad at me for doing something that she asked me to do then she started spewing straight bs like weight/fat doesn't matter for beauty etc. It was crazy because she and everyone knows that those things do matter. Just ridiculous xD Use other people for validation plz.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 9 points10 points  (7 children)

"It will happen sooner or later"

Very true. Every moment you spend with a woman you're not attracted to, and especially when you two are out together and you see attractive women go by, is another miserable moment.

Better to "nip it in the bud" as Barney Fife used to say, and take care of it quickly.

I've grown tired of getting attention from unattractive women, and when I was with a few I found myself thinking about how what I'd rather be doing (productive stuff) than being with them.

I found that sex with chubbies is harder because it's just harder to get in there, to get around their huge legs and hips, and you can't position them the same.

I've learned that it is very common for women to use 1) OLD pictures before they gained more weight, and 2) photos "softened" or filtered in their cell phone app(s) to appear more attractive online/via text than in real life.

I'm done with it. When I suspect a woman is chubbie or has old pics, I avoid her or cut it off right away. What a huge waste of time if you don't.

Here's a good philosophy to live by: with some women, you're better off just staying home alone. At least then you won't be miserable!

[–]Data_Mining_Machine 4 points4 points [recovered]

Sage advice....don't go after pussy you're not crazy about. Better to just masterbate honestly. Better to be practicing on hot chicks who reject you and spend the time on girls you're genuinely excited to be around. Not chubbos who will order huge dinners and expect you to pay

[–]En-Zu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

She did eat all of her food which my ex-gf never did. Portion sizes here are too big for average girls i think. I was kinda disappointed b/c i was looking to try what she had haha.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense. Parts of that comment occurred to me already, too.

[–]1Soarinc 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Do fat women have the same personalities or different or sparse correlation between weight and personality?

I know fat women are loyal (as friends) but it's also due to them not having options -- but that still makes them loyal, right?

Are dogs loyal only because they know they'll starve to death without you? Damn it, how did I get this confused after just 2 jack-n-cokes >_<

[–]ChanmanVXIIX 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dogs are loyal because of tens of thousands of years of selective breeding for such qualities(and still loyalty varies between breeds).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Here's a good philosophy to live by: with some women, you're better off just staying home alone. At least then you won't be miserable!

Always be willing to walk away, if the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny you use that expression that I used recently! I agree, good point!

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 11 points12 points  (3 children)

that's why if you see all the pics are mostly face or some weird angles and never show full body, just don't even bother. its always a fatty. always. girls with good bodies actually show it because they're proud of it. these fat hoes will try anything to make themselves look thin in pictures, except for actually doing the work to look thin. they're also the ones that will preach fat/weight is irrelevant and call people shallow, while they themselves wish they were thinner, hence their strategically taken photos. bitches are fucked in the head for the most part, regardless if they're fat or not though.

[–]En-Zu 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It's not even "work" though it's just not eating as much for the most part haha.

[–]SigmaMu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally doing less. Expending less effort, consuming less resources.

How do you just not. stop. eating? It's like travelling somewhere, reaching your destination, then fuck it let's go a few more miles.

[–]adam_varg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is exactly why i despise them instead of feeling sorry for them.

It takes zero effort to lose fat. Actually not zero but negative, you dont have to buy 'food' and then spend time shoveling it down your piehole.

To top that insult your average fatty chick spends more time making herself look marginally better with makeup, carefully choicing clothes, angle pics and shit than it would take going to gym.

[–]wearenottheborg 2 points3 points  (5 children)

At that point it'd be a matter of not being attracted to that kind of toxic insecurity. If she was already showing her true colors that early on, what's to say she wouldn't get worse later? It's never good to have to rely on external sources for validation.

[–]En-Zu 1 point2 points  (4 children)

She's really close to being really attractive that's why. Plus she's open to my kinks.

Is it worth it. Idk never stuck my dick in crazy before.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Is it worth it. Idk never stuck my dick in crazy before.

are you really that desperate? next the bitch man. she's insane.

[–]wearenottheborg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dealing with someone else's insecurities is always a choice (or should be). If you think you can handle it, go for it, otherwise you might get one night of fun for 50 days of being asked for constant reassurance

[–]SigmaMu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's really close to being really attractive that's why.

It only goes down hill. She will be older tomorrow than the day before and barring a complete change in lifestyle, fatter than the day before.

From experience, sex with girls you truly find attractive you will want to remember for the rest of your life, sex with girls you have to tell yourself are attractive, you will wish you could forget.

[–]Yashugan00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Girls can look attractive with make up for a long time. But there's only so much you can hide. I see a lot of girls that are pretty, until I notice the faintest contour of a double chin, hidden by make up trickery

[–]eternal_temptation 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That guy has a "Bigger than expected plus sized apple shaped hamster".

[–]InChargeMan 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I wish I could find it (I looked), because I was going to post it here. Years ago I happened to see a segment on the Tyra Banks show (I have no idea how I came to see it, flipping channels I guess) where they setup an online date with a guy, making the girl look reasonably attractive, then instead had Tyra show up in a fat suit that made her look 300lb.

As you could imagine, since Men are generally pretty decent, the dates went relatively fine, but when she would try to escalate and move for a second date, they guys turned her down. They pushed them for answers, and they were still polite, coming down to "just not my type"

So, of course, they bring these guys on the show, play hidden camera footage, and then shame the guys for not finding her attractive or some shit. It was one of the biggest pieces of crap I ever saw on TV. How long would you suppose Ms. Supermodel would stick around on a blind date if a walking heart-attack showed up?

This was right around the beginning of youtube, so it seems to be lost... Unless for some godawful reason there exists DVDs of that show or something.

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[–]InChargeMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I saw that, similar, but not it. What I saw was her going "undercover" as a lard ass on blind dates, then shaming the men for not wanting to go on a second date.

[–]Conceited-Monkey 7 points8 points  (1 child)

You cannot talk or shame yourself or someone else into finding somebody else attractive.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very, very true. One day, one way or another, the truth will come out, and you'll want to bail.

Woe to the man who spends his time in misery until that point .

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I used to be a fat loser. I was the guy girls teased each other about. "Eeww, Jack likes you!" Other guys constantly gave me shit about my weight. After being fat shamed for so long, I had enough, cleaned up my diet, hit the gym and eventually got ripped.

I credit the fat shaming I had to endure for saving my life. Without it, I'd likely still be a fat loser, probably an incel, with all kinds of health problems, stuck in a dead end job with one foot in the grave.

Fat acceptance is not only politically correct bullshit, it's a public health hazard.

Notice that people in cultures that don't shame fat shaming tend to live healthier and longer.

[–]Mckallidon 18 points19 points  (10 children)

I like fat chicks. But I still don't let my friends see them.

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[–]Mckallidon 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I'd let my friends see me on a moped all day. I'll game women off a moped, even ask them if they want a ride. Fat chicks kill your SMV worst than your ride. As long as you don't take the bus most women don't care unless they're betabuxing you. Chad has been known to drive a POS.

[–]illisit 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It's women you can't let see you on a fat chick. It destroys you smv through the preselection

[–]Mckallidon 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Exactly. I still don't let my friends see because then info gets leaked to women. Who tell everyone.

[–]illisit 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess mine have mutually assured destruction in that regard.

[–]graffix13 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I like big tits...which, unfortunately, are usually connect to hoggers. I need to break myself out of this but it's easier said than done. I wish the Good Lord would have made me an Ass man.

[–]Mckallidon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

As long as the hog has big tits it's ok. Nothing worse than a B-cup and a huge foopa. I myself prefer small tits as long as the ass is good.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Are there no waistmen? I don't know. Ass and Tits are nice but petite waists are the best I'd say.

[–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I care the most about eyes, teeth and skin. There are so many forms of sexy, and many more that are at least bangable.

[–]useyourmouth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Coming soon: prepare to get shamed for not overcoming your aversion to this tranny's feminine penis.

[–]Avskygod0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

hol up hol up

so if dude likes fat girls, he is sick fuck, but if he don't he is sick fuck again

i am confus i think i will be avoiding western world now

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This beta has done what I previously thought only women could do - he has a hamster. And it's running at full tilt trying to avoid calling a fat woman fat because that might hurt her precious feelings.

Oh, many guys in this world have "rationalization hamsters" ... this guy being a case in point. The thing about the 'male hamster' is that it 'projects' and 'blames the world' instead of trying to 're-frame' the argument, as females are inclined to do. The OP is all about 'rationalizing his thoughts to himself, not so much to 'convince' other people (as there are enough BP SJW's to 'support' his 'beliefs')

The way he describes his weight is a perfect example, and several people have said what I was going to, e.g.

LookinForFeedback-

  • I'm sorry, but I think you have no idea what a 5'10" guy at 210 lbs of muscle actually looks like. If that were true, you wouldn't be anywhere near a "dad-bod," you'd look more like a miniature version of the mountain. Your ideal weight is in the low 170's. You didn't put on 25+ lbs of muscle on accident. Hiking and using trekking poles does not get you that far, not even close. Your BMI is obese, and before you say it, no, BMI is not inaccurate for you. I know that's not the point of your post, but if you really doubt me, go get that bod-pod test. After looking at your BMI, I'm willing to bet your body fat percentage is greater than 25. I'm not trying to shame you, I've just seen this over and over again, that people drastically underestimate how much fat they're carrying around. Trust me, you're carrying way more fat than you think you are.

The the OP replies:

I stated it in another comment, and not that it is particularly important, but I am an avid backcountry hiker. A lot of my weight and muscle is in my legs as a result, but my use of trekking poles distributes weight and exertion to my arms and shoulders as well. I may not be a gym rat, but I do get frequent full-body workouts. I'm not lying to myself or to you when I say my weight is more muscle than fat.

Look at that Hamster go!! Oh no, he's clearly Not Lying, . . . much!

Here's another poster commenting about the OP's 'belief' he's got a "trim, taut and terrific' body! lol

ClashTryNots •

  • Doesn't sound realistic to me. I'm in decent shape and have been lifting for 3.5 years and am at 5'10" and 170 pounds with legs like Quadzilla. Granted, I'm no Arnold, but if I gained 40 pounds that would be amazing if I didn't look soft and that it was somehow mostly muscle.

Sounds to me like this guy has some serious "self deception/honesty" issues, not unlike many people.

He's also clearly someone who 'defines himself' through "other people's opinions" (BluePill) and is "happy to wait for sex" (Beta as fuck!) He hasn't got an original thought/opinion going on!

So, it's taken him 6 dates to decide he's 'not into obese women'??? WTF? Talk about a lack of 'self-awareness!

This dude is as thirsty AF, desperate as can be and 'kidding himself' about most of his Life, not just the third date in his life! He's spent several weeks being super friendly (making out with) this girl before he decides "he's not attracted to her" --- shit, WTF was he doing that whole time?

How many times did it take "feeling those folds of fat on her back" when making out, for him to decide this? 6 dates? WTF was he thinking on all the dates they had, before she brought up having sex?

No wonder "plus sized women" get all sorts of wrong ideas with guys like this pandering to them! Especially when they're "Bigger than expected" as his Guilt stops him from being Honest with Both himself and her! Taking her on 6 dates to 'then decide' he's not attracted to Fat women is FUBAR in my honest opinion.

What purpose did it serve him to do this? Probably just so he could say to the boys at work, "yeah, I'm seeing this BABE, she's absolutely gorgeous, she's a natural 10" in the face bullshit bullshit!

As he said, "she's only the 2nd or 3rd woman to ever contact him first (although me thinks it's more like "the First woman" who has contacted him (coz, who 'forgets' whether it's 2 or 3? Maybe if it was 12 or 13!)

This guys is The Example of why 'abundance mentality' is so valuable

That said, No guy will achieve "abundance mentality" with 2 or 3 girls he hasn't even fucked.

IMO his whole post (and his replies) are an attempt at rationalizing his position, aka "hamstering" his 'lack of sex'

[–]FreemanPontifex 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's possible to be beta without actually being a delusional pedestal worshipper. This isn't beta, this a whole new level of grovelling.

[–]1Soarinc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wonderful post, OP, thanks for sharing! Very insightful and I learned a thing or two -- I felt really sad for the guy -- I mean I see him as having a fat mom and a dad who loves his fat mom, and that's probably the biggest assumption that wasn't mentioned in the OP but it feels 100% true in my heart. <3

[–]tom_turbine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The comments appear to be largely sanity from men and women. What a pleasant surprise.

[–]CasperTFG_808 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Recent TRP convert, at my BP worst I was 250+ lbs now at 180 (not there yet - goal of 170). But as I continue Lifting, Diet and my MAP my wife has been gaining. I seriously don't find her attractive, and when she asks right now I mostly STFU about her weight. Thoughts on ways to tell her, yeah you are fat and it's not attractive without being a dick?

[–]Umbrifer 4 points5 points  (2 children)

There is no way to say it without her getting angry at you no. Maybe have her catch you looking at skinny girl porn?

[–]CasperTFG_808 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I gave up porn and PMO as part of my MAP.

But it's funny she saw me reading a crossfit article and there was a picture of Christmas Abbott on the web page. She said "oh gross a girl with Abs", I replied "I think it's sexy".

[–]Umbrifer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice manouver. Good Luck man

[–]graffix13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no way to tell her without coming off as a dick, sadly. And current society will just reinforce her belief on that.

However it's ok to call their husband fat and lazy. That's ok.

[–]adam_varg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cover > overt communication isnt rule for no reason.

Lead by example.

Dont buy shit 'food', what you find at home donate to homeless shelter. Workout religiously, go for long walks/hikes (active recovery is your friend too and it can lube her up for actual exercise later) on rest days and keep inviting her. Dont fuck her and give her little attention unless she is currently making good choices when it comes to food and exercise.

If you see no change in her behaviour in six months she is lost cause.

[–]trpthrowaway1852 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's retarded that men can't come out and say they are not attracted to fatties or uggos without having feminazis and retarded SJW's getting their panties all bunches up. Living in Asia is starting to be attractive AF.

[–]Windryder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of his first mistakes was speaking that way. If you're going to speak to a crowd of feminists, don't write in a way that makes it clear that you care about their approval. Feminists hunt that like more useful things hunt prey. I'm sure they immediately went condescending mom on him. I'm not going to bother checking the link to find out.

Second, the fatty got that way through surgery, not self control. I can only imagine what kind of bad eating and lifestyle habits she'd be bringing into his life.

Third, her good attitude is probably coming as a result of her enjoying her "new" self. Once that wears off, she'll be back to her usual, shitty self and she won't even be hot to compensate for it.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He said she's somewhere above 200lbs at 5'4". That means she's at least 70lbs over weight, probably more. She's not "plus sized" she's fat as fuck.

[–]sock_puppetry 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I gave up feeling any kind of pity for fat chicks and I'm a former fat chick. I was pissed that my SMV had dropped significantly, and had the self awareness to realise I was a hypocrite for seeking standards in a mate that I didn't display in myself. I was lazy, greedy and negative. Who wants to fuck that? I certainly wouldn't.

So I worked damn hard, shed 80lbs, took up hiking, and changed my mindset. I posted progress pictures on Facebook and some HAES bitch I knew through work got triggered. She told me I was fat shaming by posting the pictures, that it's dishonest as I'll put all the weight back on as I 'forced' my body to do something unnatural, I'm perpetrating fat shame by looking at my previous body negatively, I'm encouraging men to only find thin women sexually attractive, and that I should kill myself. They're all crabs in a fucking bucket, desperately pulling one another down to their eventual deaths.

I would much rather someone was honest and respected me enough to tell me I'm fat than stand by and watch me eat myself into an early grave. There's only one elephant in that room, and it's the fat chick. I certainly don't want men pity fucking me out of some misguided SJW obligation.

If someone is using food as an emotional crutch or coping mechanism, they're not psychologically healthy enough to be engaging in any form of relationship outside of themselves.

Lastly, no one should feel obliged to fuck anyone, that's socially coerced rape.

[–]somefrommars 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I love the fact you are self-reliant and used a practical solution to solve your problems.

I used to weigh over 120kgs in 2013 and by 2014 I weighed 65kgs; so I lost over 45kgs. I became more outgoing, stylish and confident.

More women paid attention to me and gave mating signals.

Keep strong and improving.

[–]sock_puppetry 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Thank you!! It's been hard work but worth every second of it. I feel so much better mentally and physically. Congratulations on your journey!

The irony of it all, though. On my main account I've talked about my weight loss journey and was piled on by SJWs. I was even banned from one sub simply for explaining that when I was fat I was unattractive. I wasn't harsh, just stating a fact. The ONLY positive comment I have received online about my weight loss is from the sub that apparently hates women.

Keep doing the good work guys.

[–]thisornothing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had no idea the SJWs were so far gone as to actively arguing that someone put their health at risk so that other people don't get bad feelz.

Well done on getting past it, and recognising the reasons why people were trying to hold you back.

It's hilarious that they think the point of this forum is to hate women.

[–]somefrommars 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. Shedding unnecessary fat will always make one feel better.

Thank you.

I'm not surprised that those females negatively criticized you. Many females are generally jealous of females, they think are better than them or look better than them.

Yes, facts are facts so they shouldn't get all emotional about the truth.

Damn, so isn't it ironic that we men have given you healthy praise; instead of contaminated condemnation.

Thank you.

If you need to talk, feel free to shoot me with a message. You seem really cool.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Related to your TL;DR i remember a while ago a fat girl i knew on social media claimed that she shouldn't have to lose weight and guys should just love her for who she is. Even back then in my very beta haze i knew there was something wrong with that statement, probably because i wasn't attracted to fat.

The subject of idolizing came into my life a few months ago, i went deep into it and started thinking about this again and thought "what kind of man is she picturing who should love her for who she is?" And it ain't no one of low quality of course. She's probably imagining some 6ft 2inch stud who dresses well and has a well paid job because that is what gives her the tingles. Flip the tables on that, will she love a guy for his stinky under arms and toothless smile? Fuck no. She's not interested in making men happy, she's just interested in men making her happy. Will she work for it? No, she thinks it should land in her lap.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I don't understand at all how you come to any of your conclusions. Like, at what point was he begging anyone for forgiveness? And I'm pretty sure a lot of people, regardless of gender, have been interested in someone, but felt bad for not being attracted to them (especially if being obese is the issue). And most of society refrains from calling people fat because it has a negative connotation. It's always used as an insult. So if you want to be descriptive without being an a-hole for no reason, you describe someone as overweight or obese. Those two are better terms anyway because they separate two very different levels of excess fat.

But I dated an overweight/obese guy (I don't actually know what his weight was, but he was pretty heavy and several inches shorter than me). He was the first guy to ever actually like me back. Over time he got controlling and abusive (but I'm sure you guys blame me for that somehow) and I dumped him. But the weight never bothered me. On the other hand I dated a guy who was not attractive to me at all. Tall dude, stocky build but there was just nothing nothing there for me.

But calling people fat and/or ugly is rude. You have this warped view of society that we all just need to be brutally honest and somehow that will make the world a better place. Everyone has feelings. Even if you're raised to be a "manly man" who isn't supposed to show emotions (or like the way my parents raised me, never talk about anything that's bothering you ever), then you internalize hurt feelings. But they're still there.

You just seem very angry at the world because it doesn't serve your purpose. You don't want to date fat women, but you think feminists have brainwashed the world into accepting obesity. But they haven't. Regardless of gender, the debate is pretty up in the air. And I still don't hear women saying that you have to date them because even though they are obese. I hear men in forums like this acting like they deserve sex. But women who claim "body acceptance" want the world to stop judging them. I haven't heard them demand to be in a relationship.

[–]skankhunt-yon-juu-ni 4 points5 points  (2 children)

But women who claim "body acceptance" want the world to stop judging them.

I don't agree with this. They want to be judged, but they want to be judged as hot. That's what is driving all these fat lingerie shows and fat women posting bikini pics of themselves on instagram. People want to be accepted and large women are no exception. And then when they find a chubby chaser, they are shocked that the guy is a fetishist who is into stuff like face sitting.

I let myself go for awhile and gained like 20 pounds of fat in under a year. One of my coworkers called me out on it and I got back into a routine gym and healthy eating cycle and I feel great now. Being fat really is not healthy and, while maybe calling a woman fat is counterproductive, there needs to be a way to make sure they are putting in effort to stay healthy. Watching TV while doing cardio is much better than watching TV while eating Ben & Jerry's. Relatively few life adjustments can really change a person's path.

[–]Limekill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They want to be judged, but they want to be judged as hot.

+1

BBW - Big, beautiful wom0n, but they're not.

[–]Heinseverloh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where is the natural selection?

[–]allrandomworldnews 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He won't procreate because he is going to get cucked by a chad. There is your natural selection at work.

[–]VinsTheSpaceDriver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"free Willie" was an awsome advice.

[–]FractalFactorial 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Jesus christ. Is it really considered politically incorrect to call a spade a spade nowadays?

[–]throwawayurbuns 0 points1 point  (1 child)

PC has got so bad you can't even say "call a spade a spade" without being labeled a racist.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's because spades are black, isn't it??

[–]Gilgs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. i don't view or get toggether with fatties romantically /sexually nor I care what femminists"think" or say. iDGAF

[–]dudeguymanthesecond 0 points1 point  (0 children)

stumbled across a post on the okcupid subreddit (which is dominated by third wave pink-haired social justice types) that was basically a man flagellating himself in public for not being attracted to an obese woman

Some people get off on being humiliated.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've wished I could find a fat or unattractive girl pretty before. I've been very attracted to the personality of several girls that were below average and new they would make better than average partners. However, I simply could not want to be with them. I was never ashamed though. I just wished their was a switch in my brain to manipulate.

[–]Areu4realm8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how did men end up like this?

[–]sircomeseyesd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tldr i dont like fat chicks

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. I like young women too. Young and thin and very intelligent, with tits.

[–]Hjalmbere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most men prefer a waist-to-hips ratio of 7:10. Hip width and breast size are important factors in fertility, child birth, and rearing, so there's definitely an evolutionary connection there.

The anti-fat shamers are fighting male biology. Good luck with that. Obese people need help and encouragement to lose weight, not enablers.

[–]HodorOrNo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yes, I remember the days of old when I had to kneel in front of a courtroom of feminists, bawling my eyes out and apologizing rapidly. Good times ( :

[–]stoicismexpress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good lord that's depressing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The older and more cynical I get the less and less I believe that we are all equal and everyone is deserving of success.

My lord.

[–]MrAnderzon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Duck it. Who cares if you don't like fat chick's. We all have different taste

[–]teeelo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's a beta gerbil bux.

She's a fat ass hamster.

They can make this work guys!

[–]Redbeam100 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If he was "mostly" muscle she wouldn't have messaged first out of fear of being rejected. This guy shows the insecure beta personality traits of a fat fuck who doesn't accept he is not attracted to a fat fuck like himself.

[–]Cynewald 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember this couch bison well over 200lbs with cropped masculine hair and black rimmed glasses messaged me once a dating site calling out my preference for a girl with a healthy lifestyle (I was a healthy weight myself). She said something like "you ain't shit" and "If you're too shallow to accept someone amazing because she is overweight, then an asshole like you who only wants skinny models deserves to be alone!

Her own dating profile read: "Not interested in blacks or asians or men below 5'7." "And no pervs!"

Fuccccckiinng supreme Shitlord. Putting the hippo in hypocrite.

[–]1sezamus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well.. I feel sorry for fat chicks the same like for fat dudes. It is an indicator of mental problems (killed self-confidence, fear of the world, etc.). Fat people have problems because they live unhealthy way and they eat too much because they have problems.

Obesity usually means complex mental problem. It is ok not being attracted to fat women, but most of them are just victims of life just like betas are and without proper guidance they are doomed to live unhappy and depressed life.

I was depressed heavily once and I was eating a bag of chocolate just to move my ass off the bed. Otherwise my dopamine level was 0 and I was feeling no urge to do anything about it. I just didn't want to live, but not in suicidal way, but nihilistic one.

Then I reminded I always wanted to be a soldier since I was 3. I was fat during boot camp, but today I feel like "born to kill madafaka".

[–]Leon1892 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Would you say to a fat person that he/she is fat to the face? Is it beta-like to be respectful? Or alpha-like to be rude? He could also say "I'm not attracted to you" instead of "I don't like you, you are fat". Or what is your point about? That he doesnt write "fat" in a reddit post or that he doesn't call her "fat" in RL?

[–]Trail_of_Jeers 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Let myself go after high school. My friends would have saved me a bunch of years by saying "You got fat, tubby fuck"

[–]bigk12345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is OK. We would have accepted you just like how you were back in the day.

[–]Rocky_Bukkake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

seriously? why blame society. he can't tell her how he feels. that's his thing, not society's. this shit happened before and will happen after feminism. i had issues like this when feminism wasn't a thing, and if it was i hadn't a clue.

what's wrong with liking a person and feeling grief for not being attracted to her? calm down m8

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