Men's RightsJurors Find Rolling Stone Writer Liable In University of Virginia Rape Defamation Suit! (self.TheRedPill)

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Jurors found a reporter liable in a $7.5 million libel lawsuit Friday that accused Rolling Stone magazine of defaming a university administrator in a now-discredited story about an alleged gang rape at the University of Virginia.

The jury deliberated for nearly three days before handing down the verdict against reporter Sabrina Rubin Erdely and in favor of University of Virginia administrator Nicole Eramo, who asked for $7.5 million in her lawsuit against the 48-year-old magazine.

The magazine and its parent company Wenner Media, which were named alongside Erdely in the lawsuit, were also found liable for defamation with actual malice on serveral counts, according to NBC29 reporter Henry Graff.

Eramo alleged that she was unfairly portrayed in a 2014 story called “A Rape on Campus,” which described the alleged assault of a student identified only as “Jackie” at a university fraternity house in 2012.

The article’s publication in November 2014 set off protests at the university and other colleges across the country. But the story fell apart when other news outlets surfaced questions about Jackie’s claims and uncovered that Erdely had never contacted any of the accused rapists or several others referred to by pseudonyms in the story.

Charlottesville, Va. police. said after an investigation that they could find no evidence supporting Jackie’s retelling, and Rolling Stone eventually retracted the article in April 2015. An “autopsy report” published in the Columbia Journalism Review described the article as “a failure that was avoidable,” faulting in part the journalists who “failed to surface and debate problems about their reporting or to heed the questions they did receive from a fact-checking colleague.”

But Eramo’s lawsuit, demanding $7.5 million in damages, required her lawyers to prove that Rolling Stone’s publication of the story was not only wrong but done with “actual malice,” which her attorneys addressed in closing arguments Tuesday.

“Once they decided what the article was going to be about, it didn’t matter what the facts were,” attorney Tom Clare said Tuesday, according to CBS News.

Eramo wept in court when the verdict in her favor was read, according to CBS19 reporter Courteney Stuart.

Lawyers for Rolling Stone countered during the trial that the magazine would not have proceeded with publication had they been aware of the article’s fatal flaws, and Erdely, who took the stand during the trial, testified that she had full confidence in Jackie until after the story ran. The jury began deliberating on Wednesday after the more than two-week-long trial.

The fraternity named in the article, Phi Kappa Psi, also filed a lawsuit against Rolling Stone in November 2015, which is pending.

[–]Tintinikongo 137 points138 points  (6 children)

Brilliant. First the Hulk Hogan/Gawker suit, and now this.

[–]WilliamBott 61 points62 points  (5 children)

It's about time journalists be held responsible when they fail to do their due diligence and verify their information.

[–]199639 53 points54 points  (2 children)

Are the facts really important when the feels are so real though?

[–]Origami84 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If you asked Tumblr, the answer would be no. But, so long as the code of law isnt changed.... yes they are.

[–]Listen_up_slapnuts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As long as something like this could have happened, is enough to cause outrage for tumblrinas

[–]1Soarinc 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey William you're either just giving general commentary, or are misrepresenting how terrible her actions were.

She didn't just "fail to do their due diligence" she basically threw a molotov cocktail at the story then snorted an ounce of meth. Only surgeons and pilots need to always do their due diligence. Journalism can be half-assed as long as it's overall mostly correct and at least semi-informative to the reader. In fact the bar is much lower in journalism and the minimum threshold of professional competency is that:

  • satisfactory compliance with "basic, even routine, journalistic practices and maintaining public faith"

[–]WilliamBott 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm just giving general commentary. These bitches (both male and female) at Rolling Stone and that author and Jackie all seriously fucked up. They went above and beyond.

My comment was just that in the media, in general, there are almost never repercussions for blatant lying and libel. That is starting to change, and it's a good change.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 60 points61 points  (18 children)

So do they actually have to pay the 7,5 million $? That would be the best signal to the rest of the media not to crucify the man before any actual verdict is out and not to participate in false rape accusations/whitch hunts.

[–]1Entropy-7[🍰] 83 points84 points  (11 children)

The plaintiff is a woman. The Chick won and the guys are still waiting for justice

[–]vicious_armbar[S] 86 points87 points  (6 children)

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[–]zephyrprime 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Wasn't the frat's case already thrown out before it even reached trial?

Yeah their case was already thrown out: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/29/federal-judge-dismisses-u-va-fraternity-members-defamation-lawsuit-against-rolling-stone/

[–]spar101 39 points40 points  (1 child)

This was the suit filed by a few individual members, but the case that the national fraternity is bringing is still pending and should go to trial next year.

[–]i_forget_my_userids 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you had read OP's post, you would know the case is still pending.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought that he was questioning the assertion not asking for a rehash of it.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can't wait for the after party man 7.5 MILLION! that party gunna be lit!

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 15 points16 points  (2 children)

That's what I came here to ask. What about the guy she stalked, and the guys that she threw under the bus in shallow attention grab?

[–]alpha_n3rd 4 points5 points  (1 child)

what about them? who are they gonna sue? did rolling stone even name them? does "jackie" have any money?

[–]tyrextyvek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the jury awards a substantial amount, it's likely that Rolling Stone will settle with the fraternity rather than take it to trial.

[–]alpha_n3rd 5 points6 points  (4 children)

she ASKED for 7.5 mil, but the trial isn't over yet, the jury still has to decide the actual award, could be any amount

[–]bobsbigboi 5 points5 points [recovered]

Juries don't award judgements, they just establish guilt.

[–]alpha_n3rd 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Wrong. Source: I've served on a jury where part of our job was to award judgement (we didn't give them shit).

[–]Origami84 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Out of curiosity, and if you are allowed to say why.... what happened?

[–]alpha_n3rd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

it was a wrongful death suit, a car skidded off the road and hit a thing the state put there and they sued the state; we decided early in our deliberations that it was a freak accident and the state was not at fault so we never got to the penalty phase, but it was on our jury instructions handout to decide how much the state should pay up. Oh and the judge coached us on it a bit, talked about value of lost income and emotional distress and whatnot. It was a pretty stressful experience, there was a bleeding heart that wanted to give them free money from the government and then went to the judge after deliberations and accused me of impropriety. I just argued my convictions, that it was a freak accident and according to the judge's instructions there had to be a "significant" chance that this accident would happen. well it was a freak accident let me tell you the car spun around just the right way so the guys head nailed the corner of the cabinet. and the state testified that something like 40 million cars per year drove on this highway and the thing had been there 10 years and nobody had hit it before let alone died from hitting it, it was like an electrical cabinet, like the ones you see on the site of the freeway in california. I noticed they started putting guardrails up around them after that.

[–]JanLul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The amount has yet to be determined. The actual amount can be less or more than the currently demanded 7,5 million usd.

[–]cuteman 28 points29 points  (5 children)

The person suing is the dean who shut down all fraternity activity as soon as the story broke.

It's a victory for this kind of thing but the fraternity, to my knowledge, still hasn't seen relief.

[–]thesandyoyster 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I'm in Greek life at UVA, and culture has shifted back to normal after a tumultuous year in 2014 due to several incidents around the university. Phi Psi itself had one bad year of rush because kids were hesitant to join because of the slander endured, but they have resumed activities as normal this fall, tons of parties, little bias. All fraternities in general are just more cautious overall.

[–]cuteman 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Did they receive any kind of relief? They had their house vandalized, slandered and sanctioned yet it is the university dean who has standing to sue Rolling Stone? Seems a bit backwards.

Ironically this whole thing was concocted via the media considering Jackie Coakley (who is now married to some poor unfortunate soul) never went to the police and isn't necessarily liable for a perversion of justice or fraud since she never made official complaints.

[–]GuitarHero07 2 points3 points  (0 children)

None of the fraternity members were named and the alleged ringleader of the rape doesn't even exist....Jackie invented this character. The dean was actually named in the article. Rolling Stone reported that she dismissed Jackie's complaint and portrayed her as insensitive and incompetent. The fraternity may have a case as an organization. Their property was vandalized and members were ostracized by their peers.

[–]Origami84 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I imagine that every woman which shows hints of being a sjw is being kep away from the parties.

[–]vicious_armbar[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Rejoice, Men! Small sweet victory! Until the reparations are paid send her to the gulag.

The magazine and its parent company Wenner Media, which were named alongside Erdely in the lawsuit, were also found liable for defamation with actual malice...

I jizzed a little...


Fall not on complacency. Liberty requires ETERNAL vigilance.

[–]Orbiter42 33 points34 points  (1 child)

this reminds me of the Salem Witch Trials. very closely. females crying witch, to effect social status, ruining lives, until the victims started suing for deformation.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (7 children)

2017 is the year real men take back western civilization.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 24 points25 points  (6 children)

Surely you mean muslims and/or russians invading western countries?

Because that piece of news about a female university administrator winning in court for "defamation" against a journalist (AND NOT a man winning in court for defamation against a lying woman) ain't going to do shit to curb false rape accusations. They'll just go through the usual defamation media (aka twitter) rather than newspapers.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 5 points6 points  (4 children)

LOL. Russia invading Western countries... What for?

[–]wtf_is_taken 11 points12 points  (0 children)

To see their enemies driven before them, and hear the lamentations of their women of course.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Because why not? Power. Resources.

Most of Europe wouldn't do shit to stop them. America, Idk.

Hell, its already happening...http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/georgia-border-russia-vladimir-putin-213787

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What kind of ressources would Russia need from Western Europe? Russia has so many fucking ressources it does not need anything, but the USA and it's European vassals (like my country Germany), will need Russia's ressources in the future.

Also have a look at the heartland theory and then look where all US-troops are stationed throughout the world. Then go on and use your own mind to come to conclusions. Maybe look for ties between the fallen Arabic states and Russia, or look what happened in Bretton-Woods, what the petro-dollar is and who would be threatened if it was questioned and then look what leaders questioned it and what happened to them.

Have fun.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More and more guys are waking up to those bullshit tactics. The only men who blindly believe a woman's rape accusations these days are aids skrillex level cucks whose opinions don't matter.

[–]ambarrasiya 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Great news! Sweet victory. A written, public apology by the magazine would be an icing on the cake.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What, you though an (((Erdely))) would tell a lie?