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Men's RightsSwedish mayor rules to clean the snow on sidewalks and bicycle first, in the name of gender equality, because that's where women walks mostly, (self.TheRedPill)

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This is the article in Italian: http://www.corriere.it/esteri/16_novembre_14/spalate-neve-prima-le-donne-91347e7c-a9e4-11e6-9e75-99cc0b521152.shtml

Ms. Karin Wanngård mayor of the city of Stockholm rules that municipality employee should first clean sidewalks and bicycle lanes because that is where statistically there is more woman. "Women also have the right to circulate when it snows". "The new system will provide better traffic and more equal security"

Notice how something is done "for women" in the name of equality. Imagine if the opposite would have happened. We would have been called mascilist, etc...

TL;DR: Stockholm female mayor rulse that municipality employee should clean first sidewalks and bicycle lanes because that's where statistically more women walk.


[–]SuperStringMode 404 points405 points  (45 children)

And what was the result of this equality measure on the very first day it snowed?

Oversnowed roads. Delayed and canceled trains. All public transport buses in the inner city canceled. Icy sidewalks. Basically paralyzing most of Stockholm's inner city.

Way to go feminism!

[–]ConvexFever5 249 points250 points  (7 children)

If feminism is good at anything, it's fucking up what already works fine, and avoiding the real issues.

[–]vagbutters 90 points91 points  (3 children)

avoiding the real issues.

Did you just assume that womyn's rights aren't a real issue you sexist shitlord?

-Every overweight/scrawny mangina

[–]PissedPajamas 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Notice how most of the time its shitty basement dweller neck beards that call out other men on "sexist" behavior. Most girls I've talked to don't give a shit, but the male brainwashing runs so deep that they feel like they NEED to speak out for the POOR, DEFENSELESS WOMYNS of the world

[–]vagbutters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just think that it'll somehow get them laid. These are low-effort men who never accomplish anything in life, so they go for the low-hanging fruit at every opportunity.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

it's fucking up what already works fine

Everyone avoids the real issues. What really makes feminism shine as a complete waste of everyone's time is their ability to invent problems that don't exist, or to nitpick at things that aren't perfect for women, rather than realizing that things aren't perfect for anyone.

Feminism is women failing to see their own privilege (e.g. it's a horrible, disgusting burden on a woman to be catcalled, but the fact that most men are openly labeled creeps for just looking the wrong direction isn't an issue), and then looking at their own situation and complaining about the things that aren't perfect. It's women from upper middle class families earning gender-based scholarships or easier admission to STEM-oriented colleges, internships, and jobs complaining that there aren't enough opportunities for women.

In general, feminism can be described as women with privilege fighting for things they want in the name of those without privilege without actually taking action to help the very people they are holding up as an example of why things should change.

[–]FriedHayek 135 points136 points  (20 children)

The Danes, the Norwegians and The Finnish all consider Swedes to be faggots, because of shit like this. If you meet a Swede who proves himself to not be a faggot, he gets treated well. But all Swedes are faggots, until proven otherwise.

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah, Swedes are known for this both politically and in work enviourments. They are known for including everyone on every single decision. At work they might include people who aren't even part of a project to agree on decisions. If everyone doesn't agree, it's back to the drawing board. Not offending anyone and not having anyone disagree with any decision is number one priority!

[–]FriedHayek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know how Swedes act and think.

But if you're not sending children to the children's table, and all the retards somewhere really cold and lonely, then you're a fucking moron. And the neighboring nationalities will keep calling them faggots, if you do.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a friend from high school who went to Norway for grad school and came back a faggot. You sure Norway is much better?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I love this shit. I wish I could set up a camera in all thes feminist nations to make a reality show.

[–]FriedHayek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Move to Sweden.

You'll see the crap daily. If you're smart enough, you'll meet a couple of shitlords, shitlords with awesome wives who mock the shit out of everyone else. If you're smart enough, you'll meet sane, intelligent, beautiful people and make sure that your fellow shitlords' lives are great.

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    [–]srell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The vast majority of accidents like slipping and falling happens during lunch hour or when everyone is on their way back home from work. The numbers for the morning hours are very close to late night, when nobody is out. So it is a pure shitshow.

    [–]oblivioustoobvious 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Did that actually happen or are you assuming it will?

    [–]SuperStringMode 41 points42 points  (3 children)

    I live in Stockholm. It actually happened. The taxi queues were over 2 hours long. A lot of people had to walk a few hours to get back home after work. And many others didn't even go to work that day.

    [–]redartist 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    This kind of bullshit reminds me of what's going on in the US, these rioters are blocking blue collar service workers from getting to their jobs on time.

    Do they think they will vote for Dems if Dem rioters get them fired for being late?

    Will people re-elect this mayor in Sweden? Looks like a textbook case of Briffault's law: women will forget him being a doormat for them, but men (or what's left of them in Sweden) will remember this shit come next election time.

    [–]ministypill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I am so enlighten by Briffault's Law.

    The solution to it is either never commit, or provide service that you can retrieve anytime you want.

    [–]FriedHayek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Helsingin Sanomat, the Helsinki's Paper, wrote a piece on it. I knew it. They wouldn't resist. 'Hey, fellow Finns! The Swedes over in Stockholm are completely hamstrung due to mere 30-40cm of snow. Take a look.'

    [–]1grubek 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    It's a government level shit test and they are failing.

    I do not understand why the guys do not say that enough is enough.

    [–]the_mad_mad_cow 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Feminism succeeds because it exploits men's instinct to protect women.

    [–]ministypill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If the things happened other way around, people trend not to care.

    There is a video on youtube about this. Feminist(actor) hit donald trump actor with a fake glass bottle (sugar model) in the freaking middle of New York. People just keep walking pretend it was just a show.

    [–]Tuga_Lissabon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Everybody should be happy this sort of thing happens and becomes public.

    People who read this will take note, even if subconsciously, and think "well hope they don't do that HERE".

    In time, the notion of going against logic for feminist reasons will be weakened.

    [–][deleted] 90 points91 points  (69 children)

    Jesus fucking Christ, what makes a swedish red pill man still live in Sweden?

    [–][deleted]  (16 children)

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      [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (9 children)

      The very few articles outside of TRP reddit that I've seen of Sweden and its policies/governmental shit, left me with the conclusion that Sweden's situation is going bad. Really bad. The same goes for Denmark.

      As for you, I can imagine the upsides and downsides of living there. Have you thought about living in another country? What is making you stay?

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        [–]Stoned_Duckie 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        Damn man you creep me out. Your description of yourself fits in on me 100% except my parents still works. But we're definitely not alone thinking like this here in Sweden.

        (Civilingenjör i Linköping här, du?)

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              [–]Stoned_Duckie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Nice, härligt och se att man inte är så ensam som man ibland tror. Keep up the good work.

              [–]no_face 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              brb, booking a flight to Stockholm

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                [–]ChanmanVXIIX 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                what time do things generally end at?

                [–]Rekcarc_Eci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If it's anything like Norway, the nightlife doesn't even get started until like midnight and usually goes until 4am+.

                Source: I visited Norway a couple times.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Aren't you worried about someone convincing her she was raped?

                [–][deleted] 120 points121 points  (22 children)

                Swedish men can only blame themselves. I met two young, muscular, good looking Swedish guys a couple of years back. I said "I have banged a few Swedish girls, wow your women are wild". They both said "yes, they fuck men from any country other than Sweden".

                [–][deleted]  (14 children)

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                  [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (10 children)

                  It's the same for every person. Lucky for us, sexual strategy works on an individual basis. Next time you get laid, be glad that your competition still thinks women like big bouquets of sunflowers and sappy love letters. The price we pay (in the US at least) is a society gagging so hard on its own bullshit that a random celebrity businessman who presented literally no comprehensive plan for the country aside from a clear stance on destroying the insufferable liberal agenda still seemed like a better option to lead us than anyone else we had lined up for the job.

                  [–]razormachine 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Well... honestly do you believe that the US can be fixed without destroying the liberal agenda?

                  [–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Can you heal a person without destroying the cancer?

                  [–]haxurmind 0 points1 point  (7 children)

                  In short; the voters of the country wanted to be lead by a man worth the respect bestowed on the position and title of President of the United States of America.

                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

                  I know we have a boner for Trump around here, but he's done nothing to show he's worthy of the title yet. No one presented to us was worthy. Trump honestly has no plan. He's rightly earned admiration from this group simply because he was able to so successfully invade the minds of the American people by presenting himself as an alpha male, but for us to celebrate being placed under his leadership at this stage is premature. Celebrate the fact that it's not Hillary, but be cautious with Trump.

                  You're trained in this. You know how this works. When you act a certain way people respond regardless of whether or not you have any fucking clue what's going on. That's what Trump did. When you look at his policy statements they are so vague you'd believe he never even let a political science college intern look at them.

                  We'll see what he does. We'll see how he handles the economy, healthcare, and even all the liberal nonsense. Just remember to see the world through the red pill lens. Don't pledge your loyalty on rhetoric alone. We haven't had the chance to vet Donald Trump yet because he's been the stoic alpha thus far. Pretty soon it will be time for him to show his cards. Until then, use your brain for fuck's sake and keep a healthy dose of skepticism.

                  One problem with TRP is that a lot of people jump from one agenda (blue pill) to another (red pill) without ever stepping back to question whether or not either of those presented options is really ideal for them, and what positive individual influence they personally want to have on the philosophy.

                  [–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                  We aren't doing too badly. Its OK to give him praise. If all he has done/will ever do is talk big, that is a huge fucking quantum leap over where we would be over every other candidate. And, we have set our imprimatur upon his ideas.

                  If Trump croaks tonight, and Hillary gets in, she will still know that we aren't the brazen dumbasses that can be cucked quite as easily as she thought.

                  If trump decides to double cross his constituency, well know soon enough, and the pubs will be able to set him straight or continue to double cross him.

                  The idea that he's a fuckoff is being bandied about by the standard MSM, and were too ready to believe them. Give him a fucking break...he's only been President elect for a week.

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                    [–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    A. Iirc, the RNC has no line of succession for President-elect, and

                    B. With all of the nonsense going on about the Popular vote, and trying to subvert the electoral college, do you think that Pence would have a snowball's chance in Hell of being the next Pres?

                    I'll stand by my post.

                    Of course, the nation would be screwed, but, I'm looking at 'what if'.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    The United States Presidential line of succession defines who may become or act as President of the United States upon the incapacity, death, resignation, or removal from office (by impeachment and subsequent conviction) of a sitting President or a President-elect.

                    It's the first line of Wikipedia. If Trump dies, Pence doesn't have a snowballs chance, he has a virtual guarantee. Believe it or not this country actually sticks to its election rules, that's why we're looking at a Trump presidency in the first place.

                    [–]slothsenpai 8 points9 points  (5 children)

                    What about the migrants in their country? Do they prefer to fuck all the black and middle eastern guys that come from hypermasculine cultures.

                    [–]Mukato 14 points15 points  (4 children)

                    yes. there were a couple articles about how the immigrants are being "used" for sex for the local women.

                    [–]RagerzRangerz -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

                    Maybe by the women hungry for a dick. Not any respectable one.

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                        [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 15 points16 points  (0 children)

                        This is humorous but sickening. Like a scene from a horror movie.

                        I hope the hotel lady and the cops both get gang raped by these "refugees."

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                            [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                            Next time whenever you read about any immigrant perpetrated atrocity/gang rape in Sweden, especially Malmo, remember, you've earned the right to be sadistically happy about it.

                            [–]DanielBTC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                            Two children with a long beard robbed you. Poor children.

                            [–]no_face 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                            10-12 pakistani/afghanis

                            Are you certain they were not Syrians? Did you recognize their language?

                            european because I'm white and blue eyed

                            You occasionally come across light skinned blue eyed folks as far as India, so its just their ignorance.

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                                    [–]saibot83 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                                    Malmö is a lost city. Basically the middle east these days.

                                    [–]satanicpriest13 14 points15 points  (10 children)

                                    There's still very few red pilled men ins Sweden. The Golden One is among them. I regularly come across very woke Swedes on /pol/.the only reason they are still there is because they are extremely nationalist and hope that the country will turn around one day. Maybe it won't, but you have to admire their drive, building their careers and bodies while also dealing with leftist nonsense day to day.

                                    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

                                    drive, building their careers

                                    Nice joke bro. Jobs in Sweden and Germany are largely unproductive government bureaucrat type positions and you pay 50%+ taxes at low salaries while being shit on by the government.

                                    This is why I left western Europe for good.

                                    Once shit crumbles even further most of these guys will find themselves with nontransferable skills with all their little money being locked up in real estate and a car loan, eaten alive by migrants.

                                    [–]SpyMonkey3D 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                                    French here. First, sweden is northern Europe and Germany is central europe.

                                    Jobs in germany are a bit of the opposite of what you say, there are lots of low qualified jobs (the ones Merkel wanted migrants for)

                                    You shoulnd't look at the problems in europe/The Eu as the same. The Uk is western, and there was the brexit. You should really look at each cojntry on its own.

                                    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                                    Europe is Europe bro. Old structures, really not business friendly, super high taxes, old money previously running the show and now jews from the US and Israel are taking over with private equity etc.

                                    France is a high tax clusterfuck, same immigration issues (even Paris is a shithole now), London is owned by the rich and the peasant class can't even afford a studio apartment in London proper in their lifetime while the government is selling out public property left and right and paki gangs rape poor white girls en masse (see Rotherham scandal).

                                    [–]beginner_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                    Europe mostly has lower corporate taxes however. That's why apple is giving it's money to Ireland and not US.

                                    So Trumps plan to cut corporate taxes makes sense but the question remains where the missing money will come from due to also cutting personal taxes. He should in fact increase taxes for high earners but obviously won't do that.

                                    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                    Europe mostly has lower corporate taxes however. That's why apple is giving it's money to Ireland and not US.

                                    Not true. Apple is doing the "double Irish" where they pay no taxes.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement

                                    [–]d0lphinsex 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                                    Here's one. I thank TRP for making me focus on myself more than thinking about the insanity in Sweden.

                                    [–]satanicpriest13 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                                    I have a friend in Germany on the liberal side who could use this advice. He goes on about how evil and racist the world is becoming and how he is scared of the future, but its useless fear mongering. He would be so much happier if he focused on his own dressing, body, career etc.

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                                      [–]satanicpriest13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                      I have been trying to help him for years now. He is a really close friend. I give him all the above arguments and more, but he is just broken somewhere inside. I think the only way for him to wake up is if he were to have an unfortunate incident with a refugee. If that does not help, nothing will and I will wash my hands off.

                                      [–]SuckMyFist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                      swedish red pill man

                                      There are really few left, Sweden is so effeminate that I am willing to bet that there is a scarcity of tops, that is, dominant homosexuals.

                                      [–]AceBenedict23 30 points31 points  (3 children)

                                      I can't believe this shit. WHY ARE THEY TREATED LIKE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES

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                                        [–]NewestHouse 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                        Feminists hold almost all government positions, when the snowflakes make the rules, this is par for the course.

                                        [–]heltwig 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                                        Not that it bothers me its rather laughable, but I just need to spell it out, thats not equality, thats the opposite, its putting women first for stupid reasons - equality would be to clean whatever is deemed more important for economical reasons or safety.

                                        [–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        It's arguable whether this actually even puts women first. The idea that more women walk and more men drive sounds extremely dubious to begin with. This is ultimately putting sidewalks before roads, which seems extremely stupid for so many reasons.

                                        [–]nrafield 21 points22 points  (4 children)

                                        I've looked it up myself since I don't understand Italian (and seriously, an Italian article on what's happening in Sweden? Is globalism that prevalent these days?) and it's actually about how this actually been in place starting from a year ago, but has been thrown under heavy criticism and complaints recently because of heavy snowfall and now everyone's suffering "equally" because of this.

                                        It has nothing to do with gender equality anyway, it's just plain retardation disguised as feminism. I'm a man that doesn't have a car, and while I don't like this obsession with personal cars everyone seems to have, I understand that roads should be always cleared first, because that's where the most movement is. Feminism just isnt' applicable there.

                                        [–]Hamilton950B 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                                        Most cities in the US don't clear the sidewalks at all, they leave that for the adjoining property owner. As far as I know this is not due to a patriarchal conspiracy.

                                        [–]1Goomich 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                        I've looked it up myself since I don't understand Italian (and seriously, an Italian article on what's happening in Sweden? Is globalism that prevalent these days?)

                                        Maybe op is Italian?

                                        But this story is making rounds in internet:

                                        http://www.thelocal.se/20161112/stockholm-transport-heads-defends-gender-equal-snow-clearing

                                        [–]tbpd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                        Also, according to this:

                                        http://www.citylab.com/commute/2014/01/stockholm-proposal-make-snow-plowing-priorities-better-women/7977/

                                        "The concept of this realignment is being sold as a sort of feminist proposal, but also as good overall public policy. "You have to look at how a modern city functions today. There are completely different transportation patterns around," Helldén told the Svenska Dagbladet(translation from Sveriges Radio)."

                                        [–]TheTruthfulTruth 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                                        Swedish here with immigrant parents. This was so retarded, a lot of car accidents happened and school got cancelled for a lot of people. I am not surprised this happened though, swedish men are very spineless. Their women are more masculine than them generally.

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                                          [–]SuperStringMode 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                                          A small minority of men are physical beasts. The vast majority are sissies. In fact, if you don't call yourself a feminist you get shit, especially if you're a public person.

                                          [–]TheTruthfulTruth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                          This They cant do anything inside their own country, i don't feel sorry for them either since they are mostly beta sissies. I have tried to help some but they are stuck in their small bubble. Women are leading the country at this point, after the election of donald trump my female teachers were saying bad things about him which is highly unproffesional but i guess womynz can't control their emotions even inside their workplace.

                                          [–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                                          This is a good thing. Women who drive cars work for a living. We want to make sure those women get to work late and get fired so that they go back to the kitchen.

                                          Plus, poor people ride busses. We want to make life harder on poor people.

                                          I support Sweden's sidewalks-first policy 100%.

                                          [–]torxcil 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                                          I pay tooth and nail in taxes and costs to drive a car, and my commuting matters significantly less? Busses need clear roads as well.

                                          Not to mention it's a matter of safety, snowy roads are more likely to cause accidents than snowy sidewalks.

                                          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                                          This is stupid on several levels. (Not you OP. The topic of discussion I mean).

                                          • That's not equality. These idiots seem to not be aware that misandry is a word that exists.

                                          • bike lanes > car lanes? They must be against productivity.

                                          Best of luck to them. I don't give a fuck. It will be nice to laugh at their asses as they continue to ruin their country little by little.

                                          Europe will be really interesting when they finally revolt against these stupid ass liberal faggots.

                                          [–]mattizie 18 points19 points  (29 children)

                                          Genuine question here:

                                          With all the socialism, crime, migrants on welfare, gender shit, police resigning in record numbers etc. What is keeping this country afloat?

                                          Surely it's very very expensive to house and pay welfare to so many freeloaders, not to mention the destruction to business when you have forced "equality", where does it (the money) all come from? The only big thing from Sweden I can think of is IKEA and Volvo.

                                          Or are they just heavily borrowing and putting themselves in a lot of debt?

                                          If I was a billionaire, I'd be looking really hard at the Swedish krona right now.

                                          [–]M3_Drifter 23 points24 points  (3 children)

                                          Attrition takes time. The lack of housing (for non-migrants) and immigrant violence will slowly but surely take its toll. If things continue as they are, the far-right Sverigesdemokraterna are likely to be the biggest political party after the next elections.

                                          Volvo, while still largely made in Sweden, is owned by a Chinese company.

                                          [–]mattizie 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                          Interesting, I'll have to place a bet on that (Sverigesdemokraterna) if I can find myself a bookie. There would probably be a vested interest in the under-reporting of support for them, so the odds would be great.

                                          Do you think the Swedes have it in them to do that though? I'm not sure how badly entrenched in their ways they are. Either way, I don't see them gaining enough support to outweigh both women, emasculated men, and immigrants (if they're allowed to vote).

                                          Volvo, while still largely made in Sweden, is owned by a Chinese company.

                                          Forgot about that. Geely iirc.

                                          Thanks.

                                          [–]OSaraiva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                          [–]drallcom3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                          Wealth of the past and very high taxes.

                                          [–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                                          Extremely high taxes.

                                          Sweden has a progressive income tax, the rates for 2014 are as follows:

                                          0% from 0 kr to 18,800 kr (~0 – 2,690 USD)

                                          Circa 31% (ca. 7% county and 24% municipality tax): from 8,800 kr to 433,900 kr (~2,690 – 62,140 USD)

                                          31% + 20%: from 433,900 kr to 615,700 kr (~62,140 – 88,180 USD)

                                          31% + 25%: above 615,700 kr (88,180 USD and up)

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden

                                          [–]mattizie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                          Holy shit. That's ridiculous. That's not even taking into account employee taxes and other shit that would come out of your pay check.

                                          There's a limit to how far you can push taxes on people.

                                          From what I'm seeing even that isn't enough to cover the cost and now they're borrowing.

                                          Going to be an interesting few years.

                                          [–]lemurmort 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                          What is keeping this country afloat?

                                          The native stock is still hardworking, high IQ Nordc people.

                                          [–]Nicklasramon 2 points3 points  (15 children)

                                          Well.....

                                          There aren't that many "freeloaders" as media would like to point out. And compared to the amount of money that goes into keeping "real swedes" out of the major metropolitan areas to prevent price hikes and bubble economies, what all these immigrants and "freeloaders" cost is miniscule.

                                          What keeps the country afloat is a genuine political will among the vast majority to ensure the few who end up on their ass a decent chance to get back up again (you know... socialism).

                                          And yes people will abuse such a system. Something I am sure is unheard of in capitalist countries. I mean it's not like the wealthy in the US abuse the system and avoid taxes or anything.....

                                          I would say the main reason things are bad in sweden, is not socialism, gender shit or migrants (def not crime since it's the lowest it's ever been, again media has vested interest in selling issues, good news don't help that) but what is really fucking things up is neoliberal policies and deregulation of housing markets, school and welfare for private actors.

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                                            [–]Nicklasramon 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                                            Well that decides on the political agenda in the end. The people who say Sweden will be a 3rd world country are the same people that think Trump's policies are feasible and sound. People with absolutely no damn knowledge of politics. It's just bullshit populism.

                                            See the thing is I don't like paying for immigrants just as I don't like paying for inbred hillbilly children being spouted out by nationalists. But sadly I have to do both.

                                            The benefit of immigrants are that they in general are much cheaper in social costs than new born rednecks (who most likely will not get any higher education and reproduce early end up on welfare etc.) and trust me, we have a fuck load of rednecks in Sweden. They are actually the big problem, they are the "free loaders" abusing the system in vaster numbers than immigrants.

                                            In fact immigrant economies tend to serve us pretty well, establishing connections to regions where commerce was not normally conducted, creating vast import business (which are taxed and the goods VAT) etc etc. This is probably the wrong forum for such discussion however.

                                            Also neoliberalism is the incorporation of market based economic logic into domains of society previously considered to not be traded. "Gender shit" is a stupid term designating nothing. The translation and re-definition of gender has always occurred in all societies.

                                            [–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                                            You sound liked you're making up your facts and are full of shit.

                                            Particularly everything.

                                            [–]Nicklasramon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                                            Well prove me wrong dip shit. And not with some retarded populist rhetoric or news site. Give me facts

                                            [–]juliusstreicher -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                                            Are you kidding? You spew out shit and jump all over the place, using buzzwords such as "populist", (as if it means anything other than "conservative" anymore) and then demand that I engage with you in some adult dialogue? Grow up some, quit being a fuck, and learn some manners and then bring a structured argument, rather than disorganized tripe; at that time, I MAY look at it for discussion.

                                            [–]Nicklasramon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Alright since particularly everything I wrote was wrong....

                                            The average cost of a swede (assuming they work most of their adult life) is 4M Sek. (Source: Svenskt Näringsliv)

                                            There are roughly 1,6 million foreign born individuals in Sweden (migrationsinfo.se). The total cost per year for ALL of them (that is not just those who arrived lately, but who's been living here for decades) is 50bn kr, that comes down to about 31 000 kr per person. If you look at the budget for 2015, 50bn SEK divided into schools, health care, employment service, subsidies etc, is not a major expense for the swedish government. And in fact if we assume all those immigrants where new born and would live for 79 years, the total cost would still only amount to 2,5m SEK. So yes, immigrants are waaaay cheaper than swedes.....

                                            Estimates show that 25% of immigrants have full time employment after 8 years in sweden. This statistic does not take into account that most women from the middle east were not awarded any form of education or prior work experience, thus making it very hard for them to enter the labor market. Adjusted then the amount would be closer to 40% of all immigrants have full time employment after 8 years. That still doesnt account for part time employment or the informal sector. In august 2016 there were 117 822 unemployed in sweden, of these 82 331 were foreign born. Now 82 331 out of 1,6 million is about 5%. In 2015 74% of the swedish population were in working age. So out of 7,4 million people 82 331 were unemployed immigrants, a vast majority of which JUST ARRIVED and dont yet speak the language....

                                            Neoliberalism (neo-liberalism)[1] refers primarily to the 20th century resurgence of 19th century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism.[2]:7 These include extensive economic liberalization policies such as privatization, fiscal austerity, deregulation, free trade, and reductions in government spending in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy.

                                            So then again, dip shit, tell me what facts I'm making up......

                                            [–]mattizie 3 points4 points  (7 children)

                                            I don't mean to be rude, but are you sure mate?

                                            Personally, I haven't been there myself, but from what I've heard on alternative media. It seems to be pretty bad.

                                            keeping "real swedes" out of the major metropolitan areas to prevent price hikes and bubble economies

                                            Care to elaborate? I'm genuinely interested to hear what you have to say on this issue.


                                            That aside, I don't want to get into a debate about socialism vs capitalism. Suffice to say, that as far as my prediction goes, I've come to the conclusion that socialism is inherently unstable, and relatively volatile. I plan to place money on this, so if I'm wrong your sweet justice comes not from an argument, but in me losing money.


                                            what is really fucking things up is neoliberal policies and deregulation of housing markets, school and welfare for private actors.

                                            Again, I'm not seeing it.

                                            From the perspective of the common man, it seems horrible. But from a purely economy focussed outlook, deregulation and privatisation seems like a great thing for the SEK.


                                            Any other users care to contribute their 2c?

                                            [–]Nicklasramon 5 points6 points  (6 children)

                                            No rudeness there. I live here so I don't mind explaining.

                                            Well just as with EU, one of the biggest part of the swedish budget proposals deal with rural development. It's a pretty standard model to prevent price hikes. The attraction of major metropolitan areas is actually a problem. Since the pressure drives up housing and commodity prices in the cities, as can be seen i Stockholm for example. This is a big problem as it create bubble based housing markets (it can also be created on cheap loans as in the US) but it is in essence a fictive surplus value to old buildings that can only last as long as the potential desire for them exist. This is a major economic underpin for many swedes as they have basically put the faith and savings/retirement schemes into that the overpriced apartment the bought will be worth at least double in 20 years. But again, pretty risky as it is based purely on the notion that it is attractive to live there and worth spending the amount of money. If jobs and other commodities don't follow suit (ie higher wages) then eventually it wont be attractive. And the spiral goes down. Any intro book on human geography can elucidate further on this if you find it interesting.

                                            According to BRÅ (the swedish crime prevention council) crime has never been as low as now. However media glorifies it. In fact most "immigrant violence" actually affect other immigrant in a vast majority compared to swedes. Yes there is always people who wana get cred for living in dagnerous fucked up cities, like Malmö. But the fact is that as an average Swede malmö is no more unsafe that some dingy rural town. Yes extravagant bombings and granade attack has occured (but look historically at sweden, stockholm syndrome, RAF embassy attacks etc) this shit happens through history, it's not the norm. There are gang related shootings in Sweden, but that is not a swedish problem, its a poverty problem affecting almost all metropolitan cities (because of a functioning welfare system this was unknown in the past in sweden, which is why it shock so many now). In deed most sociological and criminology studies find the correlation to increase gang violence to be poverty and alienation, not ethnicity.

                                            When it comes to socialism vs capitalism, lets just say that there are degrees of both. You have everyday socialism with most of your friends, favors helping out etc, state socialism in sweden was based on this principle, not that the state should be your care-taker, but help you achieve the same opportunities no matter how rich you or your parents were. Being sick shouldn't be punished just because you are poor etc. Schooling should not be the prerogative of the elites children. All that just creates an even more unequal society (and thus more violence).

                                            Well neoliberal policies have objectively worse the quality of eduaction, patient care etc (several studies have shown). What it has done is consolidate wealth, sweden's GINI index is appaling as OECD study found ( The growth in inequality between 1985 and the early 2010s was the largest among all OECD countries, increasing by one third. In 2012, the average income of the top 10% of income earners was 6.3 times higher than that of the bottom 10%. This is up from a ratio of around 5.75 to 1 in the 2007 and a ratio of around 4 to 1 during much of the 1990s.) And this is a pretty clear effect of privatization and deregulation.

                                            I think this is the problem. We are waging on economic policies completely devoid of any reality groundings. Yes "purely" they make sense, but there is no "pure" economic theory. Reality is messy and creating a theory into a doxa is retarded governing. If it sucks for the common man, then what's the fucking point? What is the point of pursuing a theory that does not make the general public better of?

                                            [–]srell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Among companies you've seen are h&m (retail) and securitas (have a fifth of the security market in the US, so might take care of your mall). If you were a billionaire, you probably would know of ssab (steel), sca (paper), ABB (robotics), skf (bearings) among others. You would also know that all of these are heavily dependent on trade, and since Sweden's biggest trading partners historically has been Britain, Germany and the US, two out of three who are closing up their trade, you would take a long hard look at the Swedish krona and how fast you could get rid of it.

                                            [–]MaloWlol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            What is keeping this country afloat?

                                            Lots of skilled qualified workers (I think largely because of completely free university education), and in general pretty low salaries compared to many other countries due to the increased costs of companies doing business here, combined with incredibly high taxes. If a company wants to pay a Swede $10.000 a month in salary this is the tax-breakdown:

                                            33% Employer's tax -> $7500 left
                                            30-80% Income tax, for $10k per month it's about 50% I think -> $3750 left
                                            25% VAT on anything we purchase -> $2813 worth of purchasing power.

                                            So essentially a 72% tax.

                                            The only big thing from Sweden I can think of is IKEA and Volvo.

                                            Here's (sort by Index weighting) a link to the index for the Swedish stock market, showing the biggest Swedish companies which are listed and publicly traded. Maybe there's some there you recognize.

                                            [–]newName543456 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            They got rich thanks to free trade with other countries. Being neutral in WW2 also helped a lot.

                                            [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                                            IRONICALLY, giving them privilege is misogynist since it is tacitly admitting they are inferior and less capable of commuting in adverse weather conditions.

                                            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                                            Viking to Cuck..one failed shit test at a time

                                            [–]stemgang 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                                            Global warming is the patriarchy in action!

                                            Or maybe life is unfair and women are going to seize every excuse to tilt the field in their favor.

                                            [–]drallcom3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            All these Swedish news always look like someone made them up and then they turn out to actually be real

                                            [–]MeatCurtainRod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Whenever I read about things like this shit happening, I'm always reminded of the idea that in the past, men went out and built cities and walls and infrastructure to keep out wild animals and such to keep women and children safe. Now that things are safe on the inside, women and children are questioning the need to have these safety measures, because they don't see the danger. For fucks sake, we shouldn't be letting idiots run things they don't see or know about. Obviously this mayor has no idea how to do her job.

                                            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                                            Yes, because we all know women don't drive cars, silly though! Women walk, that's it, while men drive. Wait, we're talking about Saudi Arabia right?

                                            [–]flatox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            Well isn't she a fuckin' comedian, and everyone else clowns just sitting there nodding like they don't have a choice.

                                            [–]thomascoopers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                                            Lol.

                                            Sweden? More like Cuckistan.

                                            [–]Nicklasramon 8 points9 points  (9 children)

                                            Well The Red Pill has kinda gone down the drain since the last time I was here...

                                            Getting laid in Sweden is among some of the easiest things to do (having lived in over 10 different countries). What you don't got any game? Most women in Sweden will fuck you if you're not a complete idiot. Sure if you go US style "Alpha" they'll just think you're a douche, which you are, because you have not read the situation nor applied any form of strategy.

                                            Basically what I'm hearing is a bunch of people whining "women don't behave like we want them to do!" Well welcome to the real world outside internet forums, a place where you actually have to be smart.

                                            Oh no women in sweden don't give a shit about your muscles, bank account or what ever US metric you seem to measure "Alpha" in, then fucking find out what will get you ahead instead of blaming it on women being wrong, that's the weak pussy way out of it. They don't like you being assertive? Then be assertive in your mind rather than overtly. Jesus people this is pretty basic shit.....

                                            TRP seems to have turned into some sort of victim mentality circle jerk. Last time I checked being an angry misogynist had very little to do with being Alpha. It used to be how to handle a situation to your advantage, if your strategy doesn't work, it's not anything wrong with women, it's you motherfucker, you need to up your game.

                                            [–]Future_Alpha 4 points5 points  (8 children)

                                            Interesting. Thabks for your post, we need nore posts such as these.

                                            I am curious, what kind of things help a man get ahead in womans eyes in Sweden? I have never been there but plan to go, and if possible experience what Swedish women have to offer.

                                            [–]marplaneit 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                                            Actually muscles money and confidence will get you laid there as much as any other country. The difference come from not showing off and letting them discover that, also speaking about life and not being a retarded. This applies to most socialist countries where success is morally discouraged.

                                            [–]lemurmort 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                                            Told tons of Norwegian girls that I was a Trump supporter this summer, didn't seem to harm my game.

                                            But hey, maybe I'm an auspie who would have got laid anyway.

                                            [–]marplaneit 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                                            So you were telling Norwegian girls that you met your political inclinations from a nation that is not even close from where you live? What a retarded.

                                            [–]lemurmort 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                                            They asked, of course. Trump has been a big international news story. I'm an American, so they asked me what I thought about him.

                                            Because I have a spine, I told them the truth. The seemed to respect that.

                                            [–]Nicklasramon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                            Maybe they felt sorry for you for not having a brain?

                                            [–]Nicklasramon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                                            Most basically don't be like most of the idiots here. I think most swedish chics are quite clever and will see through any little dog and pony Alpha show. Actually, and pretty ironically, most Swedish girls wanna get laid just as much as dudes do, and thankfully they live in a culture where this is less a taboo than many other. Just don't be a dick and you'll have an easy time here.

                                            [–]Future_Alpha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Sorry for the late reply. Have been pursuing life. That is interesting. Could the same principles apply to most girls, in that they see through the pony Alpha show? So in Sweden its more about not doing anything wrong than doing something right to get laid?

                                            [–]razormachine 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                                            Hillary was doing things "for woman". Trump was smart enough to portrait her as "anti-man".

                                            Hillary lost the election, Trump won.

                                            [–]lqtys 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                                            Yeah I still can't belive that Trump has won. Too good to be true.

                                            Sometimes good things happen. There is still hope in the world.

                                            [–]DongleNocker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            Women need to be able to walk to the market so that they can make sandwiches for their men, right?

                                            [–]goldnhorde 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            DO fire trucks and policemen use those sidewalks and bike trails? I would think infrastructure would be concern number 1. Public transport alone. aren't they big on that? how much of the workforce uses these bikes and walkways?? shouldn't getting people back to work be concern 2?

                                            the obvious flaw in this whole plan is that it is being done "for equality" then specifically it is mentioned that they are doing it for women.

                                            I would just rather people like this walk out, stand on the podium, begin pissing on the crowd ..... then walk out.

                                            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                                            Don't worry guys. If Trump can become the president of the most powerful nation in the world, then Sweden will get its shit together at some point. Progressivism is dying a slow but pretty steady and painful death. It's getting more extreme every day and the public will see.

                                            [–]tomega 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Lol, and when it does not work is there a way to revert the solution? No, anything you say beyond this point would be misogynist.

                                            [–]privilegechecked85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            This is a deadly policy.

                                            Snowy roads cause deadly collisions.

                                            What about those strong independent women who don't like to drive and let their statistically-more-like-to-have-a-collision husband do all the driving? Why is she putting them at such risk?

                                            [–]alexman91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            swede here. everyone is pissed because society stopped working for a day.

                                            [–]rossiFan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Wow, so he's saying that women suck at walking and aren't smart enough to NOT ride bicycles on icy roads. There's cucked, and then there's super-cucked.

                                            [–]50red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            They don't want women to slip yet they import muslims by hundreds of thousands.

                                            [–]Kies_1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Let me get this straight:

                                            A mayor, somebody who is trusted by the people to do the "right" thing, has chosen to focus on gender equality with regards to sidewalk usage instead of doing productive things like cracking down on crime or even real gender inequality.

                                            Sweden just needs to stop.

                                            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Oh Sweden. I literally can't even.

                                            In the interests of scepticism, was this taken out of context in anyway? Was he referring to specific scenarios by any chance?

                                            [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            Good fuck he deserves to be shot for stupidity. Or at least had his balls cut off.

                                            [–]getRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            The anti-car tantrum is a thing the left is well known for, also known for making up ways to make working and job more difficult for people, Masters at avoiding work. They just find the way: defending some weak causes or problems that don't even exist. Open up your eyes suedes

                                            [–]lemurmort 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            I don't even understand. They walk on the sidewalks more than men? What?

                                            [–]Novembercriminal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                                            It's Switzerland. Bring me an example of countries that are not little leftist experiments (little because of ridiculously small populations)