10 Ways to keep your girl on her toes (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by TheFamilyAlpha


[–]Spaw-1-4-5 63 points63 points [recovered]

1st thing, I'm stealing your glowsticks idea. We always shower together and I know this will get her going.

2nd thing, this is a very good post. I try provide variety and excitement by taking my wife and just kissing her at any moment, passing in the hallway, or in the kitchen, whatever. She will smack my ass as I get up for a drink or whatever. She never used to do that. We both are providing that excitement for each other.

Also, the 10 second kiss idea that Athol Kay describes is huge. At first she was a bit resistant but this was in my early MRP days, now, it's a complete engagement. And then, like you say, I go sit and read, or play with my kids. I can only imagine what's going on in her head when I do this. Lmao

And finally, we are going to Wisconsin Dells over Thanksgiving and her predicted ovulation day is Tuesday. I'm going to be pulling all sorts of "naughty boy" shenanigans this week.

Again, excellent post.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Awesome dude, maintain that high standard.

You should try a blacklight & highlighters.

[–]maniclurker 33 points34 points  (2 children)

Get creative, pull the slut out of your wife.

If you don't, then someone else will.

I also appreciate the change in tone. The "womynz r so mean" atmosphere around TRP is quite pervasive.

[–]verify_account 1 points1 points [recovered]

womynz r so mean

Nobody here says that. Read the sidebar.

[–]2comment 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Actually, I'm looking for a way to keep my girls on their knees... seems like this post will help well enough.

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points

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[–]dzorro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do most this shit without even realizing it

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a very solid post.

The way you describe your relationship is the perfect balance of masculine/feminine polarity at play. By the looks of it Im going to go on a limb and assume you took this girls virginity and you're the only man she's been with, which is also why these things work. These things won't work if you try to LTR a CCrider.

Cant stress Lifting enough. Keep yourself fit. Attraction is fundamental. Your wife obviously has to find you attractive, this goes both ways. You wouldn't like for her to gain 100 pounds of fat, she wont like it if you become a slob.

[–]no_face 47 points48 points  (9 children)

10 ways to ...

Shit, this sub really has become cosmo for men

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (8 children)

I chose the title for that exact reason

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (6 children)

Remove vanilla sex and make it taboo by lighting your room with glow sticks. The fuck is this shit.

[–]Ben_Eszes 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He must have forgotten the taboo part where you invite your wife's sister over to the join in on the glow stick fun.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Don't knock it till you try it.

My wife laughs when her friends talk of their 'crazy' sex (doggystyle).

We've turned our room and bathroom into raves.

[–]VinylGuy420 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Not going to lie, when I read "taboo" and "free sex" I thought you were going a whole different route with those glow sticks by seeing how many you could fit in her puss.

[–]offthebeatmeoff 21 points22 points  (4 children)

The real secret to ending vanilla sex is to experiment with chocolate sauce. It really removes the vanilla aspect and introduces a whole new flavor. If you keep the chocolate and even feed her some strawberries you can really have some neapolitan sex.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

You've gotta be pretty nutmeg to try that

[–]offthebeatmeoff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, I'm bananas on a Sunday.

[–]SillyPutty47 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're not careful, this could lead to a pretty Rocky Road relationship.

[–]Solistx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dont forget to bring the Boston Creme!

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

The point here is to incorporate and invest, not all, but some of your energy into the relationship, in an LTR, he is focusing on what he can do to keep what he has invested in. Not everyone chooses happiness in fucking randoms all the time. It seems like he is saying the investment is worth the risk in this case, only he really knows if it is or not. Overall, if you want marriage, throwing some "beta" at the girl keeps the overtones of the relationship sweet enough to brag about without pussifying the man.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

These are a few of the steps that men need to follow to maintain the highest standard of marriage or relationship.

By no means does this mean a man has to have a marriage or relationship.

All masculine men walk their own path I knew early on I wanted marriage and kids I don't give a shit how others feel about that as this is my path I'm also well aware of the risk.

If my wife were to divorce me today I would be fine as she is not my mission in life but rather a part of this journey.

[–]GarnetLantern 6 points7 points  (0 children)

OP brought some great point, but I see a lot of angry neckbeards in here that can't see the forest for the trees. Red Pill advice is not one size fit all. If it doesn't fit you, what you are trying to accomplish, your situation, your personality, then move along. I read maybe half of what's posted here and maybe a quarter of that actually sticks with me.

TL;DR OP did work, some of you are being candy asses.

[–]blastdoub1e 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Good shit. Your entire website and what U stand for is a stark contrast to the grim view towards marriage in this subreddit. Keep it up

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I don't recommend marriage, but for those who've already taken the plunge, hope for an enjoyable life is not lost.

[–]blastdoub1e 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Marriage as an institution in the west, or monogamy? Or both? What would U recommend for someone looking to have a family?

I'll be honest I'm very intrigued by your blog and will be following it closely now because I am unmarried but eventually would like to have a family of my own, marriage or not.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Marriage is a bummer deal, but I've never seen kids w/ a woman work outside of marriage.

You do what you must with the information avilable.

[–]scromboidfish 6 points6 points [recovered]

Would like to say that I think this is a great post. I do not agree with the anti marriage sentiment reactionary posts that come along with these threads. Many of the men here do not fully understand that shit happens in life...we do not give up on life because we fear we might get hurt along the way, to be alpha is to persevere despite circumstance and context. Similarly, we marry because we seek to create a space, for a woman and children most likely, where they may live and thrive, and because doing this brings us joy. Wives and children will not always live up to our expectations, and neither will we ourselves live up to our own expectations in many instances.

Thank you for this post. It brings me joy to know that there are those who respect and uphold the institution of family.

How I choose to live my life, is not determined by the state of the world. I choose rather, that the state of the world be determined (at least to some extent) by how I live my life.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the comment man it was a pleasure to read. I agree with you I cannot control other men nor can I control my country but I can do is act as an example as well as living a genuine life.

The opinion on the red pill is irrelevant to the happiness and joy that my daughter son wife and myself Experience day in and day out by filling all roles without society's input.

Masculinity begets femininity

[–]This1sMyWorkAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was a great comment. I am not married but I hope to one day build a family. I need to focus on myself and lift consistently but I know I will be ready for a life decision like that in the future. Many of the posts on TRP seem to really discourage marriage but its refreshing to read success stories about alpha males irl.

I want to be married; not for the status but to create a space for a woman and children.

[–]1v1mebruh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this comment

[–]TheReformist94 37 points38 points  (34 children)

Too much effort,jumping through hoops for your wife,and you are playing into her game and frame,satisfying her sexual strategy whilst forgoing yours.

Youre telling me that I'm happy with her til death do us part,but she won't be happy because I'm not jumping through hoops striking the right balance of alpha/beta?

Fuck that. Return on Investment is shit.I have to forgo my polygamy,do all this shit to maintain her attraction so she doesn't walk off if she gets bored,whilst she has unltd access to unltd cock everyday,without even having to effort in to the LTR? Bad deal mate.men are the ones who fuck around,so she has to put effort in to stop me straying.she better limit my polygamy as I know when her hyper gamy kicks in,she will leave at the drop of a hat

[–]NeoreactionSafe 85 points86 points  (25 children)

Think of it like owning a dog.

If you neglect and abuse the dog it will behave badly.

But if you train the dog and teach it right and wrong behavior then it ends up both loving you and doing things how you want it.

That's the choice ultimately.

If one neglected abused dog is a bummer, then how will ten be better?

Quality in females is in part when you acquire her (her N count) and then the training you give to teach her. High quality is better than low... at least if you are planning a family and all.

If your goal is to maximize your participation on the Cock Carousel™ (as a Cock) then quality doesn't matter because you don't see the girl ever again or in limited doses.

Everyone can decide what they want.

Some are into that "greatness" concept... high quality, not low.


Note the flair is "Married Red Pill".


[–]5850s 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Good reply, and notice that the OP says many times he does all this stuff because HE enjoys it. He enjoys the thrill of keeping it exciting for her. No part of it is about her, she is just along for his journey.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Yeah it's fun to be the dog owner and trainer. (as the guy)

Both sides enjoy it... the girl feels that her behavior "matters" so she feels good when she is a "good girl" or possibly a "good mother".

Eventually she has pride in living this role of being feminine and well behaved.

It's sort of the opposite of Feminism and the "Bitch Face" were the goal is to repulse everyone and make them sick of you. (and basically give up and eventually leave)


[–]Nate_MacD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PATRIARCHYYYYY AAAAHGG FUCK I'M BURNING, in all seriousness thought you are 100% correct man. Well said

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (21 children)

Bad analogy. The dog returns your affection, and is always excited and happy to see you no matter how much attention you pay it. If you accept that the maintenance of a relationship is one-sided, you'll forever be a voluntary slave to her.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points  (14 children)

A dog doesn't train itself.

If you don't expend effort to train a dog it will behave badly.

No... one chooses to create the dog behavior you desire.



By the late 1960s, Spock faced widespread criticism for condoning an overly permissive parenting style. Many commentators blamed Spock for helping to create the counterculture of the 1960s. Critics believed the current youth were rebellious and defiant in part because they had been brought up by Baby and Child Care. Spock, however, continued to defend himself, saying he had always believed in firm leadership by parents.[30]


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (13 children)

The difference is that dogs are genetically predispositioned to accept a dominant hierarchy once it's established, and the have no cultural elements empowering them against that structure.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

are you being aspie on purpose? Or do you not know what metaphors and similes are?

[–]hahayeahthatscool 0 points1 point  (6 children)

To be honest analogies, (which is what the dog owner/husband comment is) are shit tier points to bring up in any debate. They almost never hold any logic to them and are easily destroyed with the most simple rational thinking. The poster you're replying to is right. You can't use owning a dog as an analogy for marriage because they are just too different. For example, and even OP said himself; women just can't return your love/work. As opposed to dogs who if you feed them and don't abuse them, will be annoyingly loyal to the death, always by your side giving it's full attention to you at all times.

Dogs are a pretty decent investment. Whereas there is 0 return on investing in marriages. Which is his point, I think

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It's called an illustrative example. You're showing a framework to understand the underlying logic. By going literal on it, you moss the point and sound overly argumentative.

Dogs aren't an exact analogue to women, in this case, the point is to express that the same concept of giving expectations via training to a dog are the same concepts that can apply to expectations via boundaries are to women.

Everyone who is looking to learn gets it. Everyone looking to argue doesn't.

So you're not wrong, but you're purposefully missing the point.

[–]hahayeahthatscool 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Discourse is required for ideas to be polished and proven empirically true. No post here is beyond reproach

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

And arguing semantics doesn't do that

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you have anything intelligent to,or is insults all you have?

[–]M3_Drifter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are you saying women (humans, really) are NOT genetically predispositioned to work in a hierarchy?

And I guess because there are cultural elements working against male leadership of the family unit, we should just not even try to achieve such a situation? Sheesh man, do you give up that easily in all matters?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Women are designed to have a masculine man in their life.

We call this "Tingles" on the Red Pill.

A female cannot achieve sexual excitement and have attraction to an Androgynous beta male.

The question (the more serious one) is what is better... Chad Thundercock or a Masculine Alpha Captain ?

Chad Thundercock fucks then runs away... avoiding any type of relationship.

The Masculine Alpha enjoys his role as Captain and really does care that his Firstmate becomes "the best she can be".

So it all makes sense.


[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's all fine if you lived in 1950's America. We have to live in today's reality. For example, in Sweden they passed a law this year declaring that removing snow from the streets was sexist because women use the sidewalk more than men. The reality is that the Tingle you talk about if a fleeting motion and is not a factor in a long term relationship. Women initiate 80 percent of the divorces, and the prime reason is money. No one dumped her husband because she lost her tingle.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 2 points3 points  (0 children)


No one dumped her husband because she lost her tingle.


Hey everyone... check this out.


You believe this is true?

After all we have said about the importance of masculine polarity (ranking as far more important than $$$) you still think the decision is based on money?


When women marry a beta they marry for his bucks. (but look down on him)

When women see their man as their prize they marry to look up to him.

It's the "looking up" (Tingles) that keeps the marriage alive.


Men love women, women love children, children love puppies


...there is no mention of money in that equation.


Chad Thundercock never worries about money.


[–]TheReformist94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep,this is it.with a woman its a one sided contract with a cat.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

The dog returns your affection, and is always excited and happy to see you no matter how much attention you pay it.

You don't seem to have been in any RP LTRs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Actually just the opposite.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

2 day account

lurk first, than post mr asian

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Actually try to post an intelligent comment instead of acting like a SJW who thinks it's there job to tell others ow to act.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not fighting with you, I'm gently pointing you towards the sidebar rules you clearly haven't gone through yet.

I'd start with official rules, then the link below it

[–]TheDialecticParadox 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Its not jumping through hoops if it's shit you geuinely want to do. You're framing it as him doing it to impress his wife but I see it as him being able to pursue any fantasy he wishes. He has complete sexual and romantic freedom. More than you could attest to with a random ONS.

Most men play it safe, have vanilla sex, profess their love too often and do boring cliche shit with their LTR's which is why their women go looking for new dick.

Experimenting and pushing the boundaries of a relationship is something casual hookups can't offer, and personally I find LTR's way more fulfilling; and I'm only 22.

You just sound bitter about the shitty hand modern men have been dealt, but instead of whining and fucking random sluts to prove a point to yourself, or to get revenge on women for their evil hypergamy, you should open your mind to RP LTR's. OP is doing it right.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

You miss the point of red pill

[–]shiraz410 6 points7 points  (1 child)

B-b-b-but fuck all the women! First thing OP did wrong was invest in WomanTM ! He shouldn't have done that in the first place then he wouldn't become a dolphin jumping through hoops for his abusive trainer! /s

[–]hahayeahthatscool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But he's correct. It's common knowledge women are a horrible ROI. Husbands are really bad investors that can't read the climate. Post like these are guides on how to minimize loss, that's all.

[–]PabloEscoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you 10%. Too many pussy pandering manginas here it stinks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you aren't providing value, then what good are you?

A man is only as valuable as what he provides. Remember, dick is cheap

[–]TruBlue 5 points6 points  (16 children)

It takes two to tango. What ten things is she doing for you that you could not get from women elsewhere?

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (14 children)

Off the top of my head?

  • Awesome sex

  • Agrees with & supports my method of raising our kids

  • Submissive

  • Doesn't give me STDs

  • Did I say awesome sex?

  • Motivation to drive forward

  • Genuinely funny, (not Amy Schumar funny)

  • Bomb Cook

  • Financially smart

  • Low N count

  • Professionally Driven

  • Has Hobbies

  • Doesn't nag

  • Tells it to me straight, not a 'yes woman'

  • Nice tits

  • Fat ass

  • Awesome sex

  • Lifts

  • Cleans, cooks, paints, strict with kids, supports my lead

  • Doesn't have Facebook

  • Hates feminists

  • Voted for Trump

Should I keep going? I've got shit to do

[–]michaelconnery1985 18 points19 points  (6 children)


Bomb Cook

Doesn't have Facebook

Hates feminists

Man... these kind of females don't exist in my generation

[–]vagbutters 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yep. Your average basic bitch is the polar opposite in every one of those categories these days.

[–]This1sMyWorkAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Plate is a feminist but damn is she submissive. But you can't win them all.

[–]EricAKAPode 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They never existed in any generation without being MADE by alpha fathers and husband's via patriarchy. No patriarchy, no quality men, so no quality women. In all times and all places, the men and women deserve each other.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

women reflect what they pick.

My spouse hates what I hate, likes what I like. It's the easiest way for women to pair bond, by internalizing the interests of their man

[–]dark-hokage 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You in your 20's like me? haha

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Bomb Cook

I get mild dyslexia so I keep reading this as "cock bomb".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what happens when you get cock bombed: http://i.imgur.com/Tgdni49.jpg


[–]Ben_Eszes 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's really nice to see people on here that appreciate their wives in such a way as you do. I'm not planning on marrying anytime soon, but this gives me hope in the otherwise pessimistic environment here.

Also, I think you forgot to mention 'awesome sex' in that list ;)

[–]dons90 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey OP is she single?

All kidding aside, love this post and you've got a new follower.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taken, from what I've heard dudes got a sweet beard.

I hope my writing provides practical advice

[–]blue_dover 2 points2 points [recovered]

Great post. I don't know why i feel like i have read this before.

Ps How much weight is that in your squat banner?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I posted this a while ago in MRP, I'm starting to share some of those posts onto TRP now that there is a Married Flair.

I think that was 185lbs.

[–]edzilla1961 1 point2 points  (1 child)

i have to agree with the majority here. i've been on this site for a few months (and reading for over a year)and i like the way most guys put stuff out there and have learned a lot from reading these posts. and i do see that some of the replies on this and other posts border on woman hating. this is a very refreshing post i like what you have to say, as a father of a 10yr old i know the importance of maintaining a mother and father relationship. i have been in an ltr for 11yrs have had ups and downs,great sex, great arguments and break ups, at the end of the day, we love each other. things are good right now and my boy is the most important thing in our lives. i'm in the relationship because i want to be,not because i need to be. we have a 20yr difference in age(im 20 yrs older than her) and the maturity levels differ a bit now a lot back then. we live in separate apts, its best that way, i can come and go as i please and i have my own place and privacy. and i sometimes feel like if my body isn't weight lifter class,,,i should'nt be here. the advice given on most posts and stories from other posters are really interesting and learning tools for me. while im not rp to the core,,,, i believe that this site is really valid for men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks man and I agree w/ what you said.

your situation is unique as I've never heard of parenting operating like that. I'm glad it's working for you and I hope you remember to just enjoy the ride.

Life is awesome man, keep doing your thing and setting a positive example for your kid to follow.

[–]flatbushwick 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Best post I've read in a while.

[–]Downhere_Seeds 6 points7 points  (2 children)

If my woman wants me to message her for longer than 5 minutes before we intercourse, I just go to bed. How am I supposed to work out everyday, then do all this shit and have the energy to fck her brains out? I'm exhausted just reading this.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

A I don't think I ever said 'massage'.

B This shit isn't easy which is why on the top dudes are getting porn star sex from their wives.

If it's too hard for you, don't do it. Just like lifting, I don't care if you do, just don't cry when the jacked dude makes your girl wet.

[–]Downhere_Seeds -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Meh. I like your other stuff, but this was pretty weak. When I was younger this would have been more meaningful, but as I get older IDGAF happens more often. But really if your lifting and getting jacked up like me and getting girls wet, how do you have the energy for this much romance and creativity?

[–]blackchadthundercock 2 points2 points [recovered]

Even when I was married, I wouldn't have jumped through these hoops playing on her terms just to get her to fuck me.

Knowing what I know now, I'd just go fuck another girl and let the natural dread from my don't give a fuck attitude make her hamster spin. That'll make her either one, step her game up or two, she'll give up due to too much dread and physically leave/mentally check out of the marriage anyway. (which happened to me) If she finds out I fucked another girl, who gives a shit? She'd most likely leave/divorce anyway. Or if you're valuable enough, it just may be the kick in the ass she needs to wake the fuck up and put in more effort on her part instead trying to make the man do all the fucking work like you & cosmo are telling men to do.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Even when I was married, I wouldn't have jumped through these hoops

That's why you aren't married anymore.

I don't do these things for her, I do them because I enjoy the marriage and want to keep it in great shape.

Dude, this is just a post on keeping her on her A game, I have posts on sex, dread, etc.

But those place the emphasis on the man too, burden of performance and all so you probably wouldn't like them either.

But you do you, I'm good where I'm at.

[–]blackchadthundercock 4 points4 points [recovered]

That's why you aren't married anymore.

Exactly. Being her slave with her finger constantly on the nuclear button doesn't appeal to me.

I've honestly already done what you're suggesting in this article in addition to always being in charge, keeping myself attractive, fit, in shape, stylish & constantly eye fucked by other women, and still ended up with the "provider" label.

You must have a unicorn man. Good for you & best of luck to you. Honestly.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Thanks bro, if it doesn't work, then I will join team fuck beautiful bitches to the grave

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We're already waiting for you there, man.

Your guides are inspiring and beautiful and I'm sure I'll use your knowledge and experience. Thanks for sharing.

Hypergamy doesn't care. Enjoy your time with your wife while it lasts.

[–]TruBlue 1 point2 points  (3 children)

One long term relationship does not an expert make. Good on you anyway for 1. Investing in your relationship 2. Having fun 3. Avoiding divorce court. Congratulations on finding your unicorn!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Nah, unicorns don't exist bro - she's just not a shitty woman.

[–]TruBlue -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Seriously I am happy that you meet each others expectations. Very rare. I don't know why you are on the Red Pill. This subreddit is only for combat veterans.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, if you want a marriage and do it right, only 1 is the right number.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (12 children)

Did you copy and paste this off of Oprah's website? It's beta-think. She needs to think "How do I please you." Anytime you allow a woman's selfish nature to set your direction, it will become all consuming and forever dictated your life. Think, don't set an expectation. You may think the surprise vacation is cool now, but she will come to see this as an entitled expectation. Now it's your job to constantly create magic for her entertainment. You'll regret it later.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (8 children)

Negative, these are options not mandatory for daily entertainment. You implement here & there, if the relationship operates entirely in your frame, these steps are great paths to take to keep the relationship from ever getting stale.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

Do you really believe that modern male-female relationships operate in the male's frame? Sorry, but I don't accept you really believe that.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)


Don't act like a majority of guys and you won't live like a majority of them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Honestly, it's not about how the majority of guys act. You missed the point. You have to deal with the reality of women in our current culture. It's important to note that if it's working for you, then go with it. I hope it does work for you. But it's not the typical reality most face in a long term relationship. Most guys I see doing these tips end up as betas.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I'm a part of the exception, certainly not the rule.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Do you really believe that modern male-female relationships operate in the male's frame?

A few days ago I was at a store looking at something I wanted but didn't need. My woman was nearby looking at something else. A guy nearby (not a salesperson) struck up a conversation with me:

Him: something something interested in buying that?

Me: "I want it. Don't need it. Trying to make the decision if it's worth spending the money on a want."

Him: (pointing to my woman) "Decision?" suggesting she makes the decision

Me: "No. My decision."

Him: "Lucky..."

Me: "Nope. I wouldn't be with a woman who thinks she controls my wallet."

He sat there flabbergasted for a moment. He couldn't comprehend that I set the rules.

Simply put, the relationship is in my frame; because if it's not there's no relationship. I've set my boundaries and my woman obeys them or knows she'll be removed from the equation.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

If that's really true then good for you. Note that you referred to the salesman as a salesperson. Even the most RP men like you are still influenced by it.

[–]funlyfeosu 7 points7 points [recovered]

There was no salesperson in the story. You're confusing the guy who he said WASN'T a salesperson, with a salesperson. It was actually just a random guy shopping as well.

[–]rpredneck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't bother. The reading comprehension isn't particularly strong with this one.

[–]Ben_Eszes 6 points7 points  (2 children)

If you never take her on a surprise vacation, you will never get to go on a vacation yourself. As many commenters are saying, TheFamilyAlpha does these things because they bring joy to himself.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not what I said. If you're doing surprise vacations strictly for her benefit, you're a betaboy. You can going on vacations without surprise vacations. The point is that you cannot establish self-sacrifice as the basis of your relationship and be RP. Women are emotionally manipulative. You can fool yourself into believing anything you want, but she's always manipulating you. "Oh, honey, it's cold in here." And you get up and raise the thermostat instead of telling her to do it herself. You think nothing of it, but for her it is a conscious power struggle she plays even if you believe you're alpha. You act by habit. She doesn't. It's programmed into her, and you are justifying kowtowing to it because men are emotionally lazy and don't want to deal with it.

[–]Ben_Eszes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well yes, you're right. If you do something solely for someone else and you receive no joy out of it, then you are definitely going down the wrong path. OP is not doing this though, so I think there's not room for criticism or telling him that he'll "regret it later."

[–]Thebilboestbaggins 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Awesome post man. Honestly I don't think it's all worth it for me. Sounds like a lot of energy. But good on ya mate.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's more for those who've already taking the plunge

[–]u-r-silly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As long as you got satisfaction of doing it, the energy invested is not wasted. It's just living a life doing shit you like.

[–]supremelummox 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The link to the full post is broken. Please fix.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Worked when I tried it

Does this one work for you? https://thefamilyalpha.com/2015/11/17/10-ways-to-keep-your-wife-on-her-toes/

[–]wild_deer_man 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Awesome post, but most of all, since I am having a children dilemma (weather I want any, since my LLLTR recently realized she does) this gave me a lot of encouragement that kids and family, although constricting in some ways, can still be awesome.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost anything in life can be awesome, it comes down to your state of mind.

Make it great, refuse to reward failure or accept anything less.

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I might add one plain thing to this outstanding text. Healthy dread by sheer absence.

Leave your gf/wife in a good mood and with the knowledge of having an alpha at home and in the sheets for just 3-4 days, the usual business trip so to speak; go radio silent. See her hamster running.

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[–]Circlelurker90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Curious OP: where do you live and how tall are you?

[–]imbeciI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good post man. Excelent for people in marriages and LTRs.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

glow sticks in the shower?! TheFamilyAlpha you really did think of everything!

great post man!

[–]PabloEscoba -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Explore our beautiful country, go somewhere you’ve never been. Instead of buying another ‘thing’ – give her an experience