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Off Topic15 Books That Changed My Life (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]Docbear64 79 points80 points  (12 children)

I always have to offer No More Mr. NiceGuy by Robert Glover as an honorable mention . In order to appreciate the red pill I think seeing the error with the blue pill has to be revealed which NMMNG does a great job of doing . For me it's the second greatest / most influential book I've read behind the Bible . I recommend it to all the nice guys I can and the receptive ones have all seemed better for it .

[–]wutangzus2002 8 points9 points  (10 children)

I just finished reading that. It's in a sense a pragmatist guide to how to be more assertive. As well as addressing the things that might be wrong underneath.

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    [–]IIlllIllIIIllIl 7 points8 points  (8 children)

    Yup, it was the first book I read that sent me on my path. I knew I was on the right one after finishing it.

    [–]Leviticus59 3 points4 points  (7 children)

    Same here. It's the book that started it all for me.

    [–]wutangzus2002 7 points8 points  (6 children)

    Mine was the random reddit button

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      [–]Docbear64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Funny how the detractors can be such good advertisers for the sub right ? I feel like I was lead here too by a comment criticizing TRP .

      [–]wutangzus2002 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      I don't know how to properly explain my decline. Between issues with adjusting years later after coming back from a combat deployment, my wife recently had an affair and i decided to forgive her, all of this while I was in korea. I was bored and found the page by hitting the random sub button on Alien Blue app. Which lead me actually to the Purple Pill actually. Like most things, I like to learn both sides of an argument before I choose a side(if I choose one). Red Pill was preaching the things I have been seeking since I was 18. A year and a half later started hitting the gym, 6 months ago after fully swallowing the pill, after finding that she was trying to branch swing again.

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        [–]wutangzus2002 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Don't be sorry dude I'm excited. The feeling of Freedom is a powerful motivator.

        [–]BlackJ1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        This right here.

        I really believe that NMMNG is a primer to the red pill or a must read. It's like a preparation to make swallowing the pill easier as the red pill kinda builds off of it.

        NMMNG stresses the importance of putting one's needs/wants first which naturally leads to self-improvement which TRP encourages.

        [–]ohyeawellyousuck 24 points25 points  (5 children)

        I dunno. I think the four hour workweek is probably just as gimmicky as the four hour body. I think ferris is just a good marketer, but he fails to really offer anything that is new and worthwhile. I mean, what works is progressive overload and caloric intake (in b4 the human body is complicated and it's not as simple as CICO). That's it really. And no gimmicky book is going to help you get there any faster.

        Also, wasn't a fan of the power of habit. It was similar to the power of now in that it has a lot of information but fails to help the reader implement it in a practical way.

        It felt like reading about how cool habits are and how they could help you if you can focus on making new ones. But it does nothing to help you actually develop habits, so I felt like it was a long winded waste of time.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Power of habit helped me a ton, it's not a guide to hold your hand, you learn and apply in ways that will work for you. Asking a guidance book to say "do as I did to be successful" is like expecting a thermodynamics book to teach how to make a specific model Bosch fridge only. You must create your own habits using the theories not follow a recipe.

        [–]ohyeawellyousuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Condescending tone notwithstanding, you missed the point.

        Obviously YMMV, but here was my thought process.

        If your thermo book said "heat transfer is cool and you can solve a ton of problems by analyzing a system" and just had some examples of studies done on power generation systems that highlight the need for analysis, you'd be left with less than useful knowledge if your goal was to be able to perform said analysis.

        If your goal was to understand that habit is powerful, the book hit the nail on the head. But if you wanted to learn how to leverage habits to be a better person and accomplish more, the book missed the ball (IMO)

        [–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The 4 hour workweek is a highly valuable tool to break some brain patterns and transition from an employee to an entrepreneur. Mainly, the importance of exchanging money for time, the importance of delegating, and how to do all that eficiently.

        When I first read it, some things I already knew or made sense, and some I thought were far fetched or irellevant. But the more I work on my businesses the more I go back to lesonns from the book, and see the true value.

        If you don't have a business, and read it just for tips & tricks to work less and enjoy more leisure time, you miss some very valuable lessons. It is definitely a life changing book, and rightfully included in the list. Same for power of habbit, from a business perspective.

        Power of now though, I agree. 95% fluff. Could barely go through it.

        [–]Kalidane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Agreed. Flicked through 4 hour body and it lacks scientific rigor. He says things that can be proven false. He's great at sales and I respect that, but why is anyone taking nutrition and training advice from a salesman?

        [–]Hakametal 67 points68 points  (10 children)

        How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. If you have swallowed TRP and want to truly make the world your oyster, read this book.

        It is the book of the capitalist and the traditional alpha.

        [–]Bocaj6487 15 points16 points  (2 children)

        It's good, but I read it after I read the"Robert Greene trilogy" and I thought there wasn't much How to Win Friends had to say that wasn't covered in 48 Laws of Power, which should be mandatory reading at this point.

        [–]Honduran 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Mastery, 48 Laws and...? Because I've heard the one with 50 cent wasn't very groundbreaking.

        [–]Bocaj6487 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        48 Laws of Power, Art of Seduction, and 33 Strategies of War.

        [–]Luckyluke23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        i was gunna say. HOW did this not make the list.

        [–]beginner_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I'm reading it now and it's not rocket science. it's very common sense. The issue is to apply it. For me it's mostly not the what but the how you get there.

        [–]lozboss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        found it a bit old and dated. Needs to be updated.

        [–]FurrowBeard -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

        I have been wondering if this book is Red Pill compatible. It seems to require listening and giving praise to reach goals, which seems beta at first, but perhaps that's just a manifestation of amused mastery? Someone throw me a fresh perspective!

        [–]CollaterLDamage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        ive always heard charles manson used the book to get those women to kill for him. in my eyes that's a gleaming endorsement.

        its not simply about giving praise;in trp terms, it would be giving IOI's. the book is about getting people to do what you want. letting them say what they want to here and making it seem like you care. this book i would say is more of a guide against men than women, it's about feeding a hungry ego.

        like u/losectrl said, its a salemans guide. you use this book to get people to do something you want by making it seem you are there friend. girls with lots of orbiters are less inclined to do anything for there friends vs a person who's job is there life and never get attention.

        [–]losectrl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        TRP is primarily sexual strategy. HTWFAIP is primarily, in my mind, a Sales Man's strategy, ie: not to be used on people you want to build attraction with. I feel like to be truly effective on the Influence aspect of Carnegie's writing, you'll need to employ some of the 48 Laws of Power

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        [–]losectrl 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        What do these authors do in real life for them to be worthy of reading?

        I sometimes feel the same about posts on TRP

        [–]rp_newdawn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        As you should. A critical eye is key to interpretation

        [–]rekt99 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        amazing book. i'm now studying stoicism because of it and found my 'religion.'

        [–]1CoupDeGrace22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Meditations has been the bible I never had.It's truly an undefeatable perspective of life.

        [–]marplaneit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Well... It was the "religion" of the Roman nobility for a few centuries.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Objective judgement, now at this very moment. Unselfish action, now at this very moment. Unconditional acceptance, now at this very moment. Of all externals, that is all you need.

        This quote sticked in my mind for some reason.

        [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        you're talking about marcus aurelius' book?

        [–]Bitcoin-FTW 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Yeah he talkin bout Marcus Aurelius' book

        [–]EllJustin 95 points96 points  (17 children)

        A lot of these books are just mental masturbation that don't actually amount to anything. I've banned myself from reading self development books after spending too much time in this genre. I've prioritized biographies, history, and education oriented books. That's just me.

        [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

        Agreed. A person should eventually grow out of reading self-development books.

        Self-development is an internal process. Reading books like 48 laws of power or 4 hour workweek doesn't solve anything.

        [–]killm3throwaway 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        I also think, personally, TRP is just a stepping stone too, maybe not for some people but in general, sure keep the advice and the strategies - but I think it's just a place where people come to get a hold of their lives until they can finally move on to developing their own personal life philosophy.

        I can't say that I want to be here forever, and I hope to not be, but this place is what I need right now to get my fucking messy life in order, but I would like to eventually move on to something more personal, and something of my own.

        Probably a controversial or "edgy" opinion now I think about it.

        [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Yep. I have read almost every post related to the manosphere and have been doing it from a long time.

        From the last 6 months, I stopped reading them. Most of the ideas they're discussing are either I've already known/ not related/ bullshit.

        If you watched the first movie in the batman - nolan's trilogy then you'd understand it easily. Bruce Wayne gets trained in all the arts of a ninja but he does NOT become one. It's not his goal. He uses his technique and skills to develop the character BATMAN to save gotham.

        Similarly, we must move on from the beginner phase and apply trp related ideas and techniques to revolutionize our lives. I just feel sad because there are a lot of people here who have been reading manosphere content from over 3 years and still argues about stupid shit.

        [–]killm3throwaway 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        I get ya man, too often this place turns into a giant circle jerk. The top posts and the side bar are massively life altering reads and provide you with lots of information about how to become a better person and get women and do whatever the hell you want.

        It's a shame to see so much of people's time wasted on arguing about things that have been argued over and over when some real discussion could be made.

        I love this place and I am ever grateful I found it yet recently I've rarely been coming here due to the dribble that lots of people put out, I really only read the field reports and the high rated theory posts, because they are the only places where some valuable discussion takes place.

        It's not just that either, I think I personally disagree with one or two of TRPs focus points, and I'd like to develop some of my own thoughts on these things without having some bias, self confirming king community force their ideas down my throat.

        I've decided I'll just take the fitness advice and the theory from here. I've read something on here that resonates with me still - "TRP is a tool box, take what you need for the job" (paraphrased as fuck).

        [–]WolfofAnarchy 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        Yup, the 4 hour books and the 7 habits books are nothing more than meant to give you simple habits and tips that could be given in a blog post, but then written out into 400 pages so that they can leech the $$$ of of you.

        [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        There's a youtube channel called "fight mediocrity". He literally explains the books you've mentioned in under 10 minutes.

        I've read both of the books you mentioned and I agree that most of the content is just over-expanded. Watching those videos gave the same amount of knowledge as reading them.

        [–]WolfofAnarchy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thanks dude, that's actually pretty useful. I read those books and was disappointed a long time ago, and those vids might help me refresh!

        [–]IIlllIllIIIllIl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Which books in those categories are you currently going through?

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It depends on your level of understanding a book.

        For example, 95% of the readers find it extremely hard to understand books like "thinking fast and slow" even though it's a good book.

        If you're a beginner then paranormality is a great place to start. I recommended this for my sister too. The book is interesting enough because he talks about ghosts and other mysterious stuff and at the same time educates you on the science behind it.

        Once you read it, try to find books like paranormality that are interesting and educating(scientific).

        [–]judethedude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Any good biographies you could recommend?

        [–]DDOS_Feeler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just like the redpill!

        If you are just going to keep reading redpill and not apply, nothing is gonna change for you. Take it or leave it.

        [–]watchthesnails 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        As always, be critical. Who is the author? What has he achieved? Does his goals align with mine?

        This goes for reddit as well. Actually it goes for this very comment by u/EllJustin. Before deciding whether to take his advice, scan over his comment history real quick and see if he seems like a guy you can relate to. Heck, it goes for my comment. Scan over my comment history and make your judgement.

        [–]mcr00sterdota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I like reading these books not just for self help. But for the habit of getting in to reading and not just playing video games/watching TV.

        [–]2comment 17 points18 points  (5 children)

        I wish there was a website or something dedicated to summarizing the content many of these books.

        I've read quite a few on the list, particularly by Robert Greene who was always entertaining... but the failing I always run into in commercial books is that material is always stretched out and repeated to make it sell-able. A ton of self-help books try to snag you further into the author's brand as well. Most people wouldn't pay money for a concise 25-50-page book but it's what I always hope for rather than the endless repetition of concepts.

        On ultra popular books like The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People I go to amazon and look at the top rated critical reviews first so I know the credible pitfalls (no system is perfect). Then google gets me an overview.

        I don't like 4 hour body though or the 4h anything. It's good if it gets you started though. But in the meantime, a lot of the info free online is better, vetted, and more grounded (particularly fitness focused subreddits).

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        The youtube channel - > "fight mediocrity"

        Give me gold.

        [–]FurrowBeard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        THANK you, this is going to save me loads of time and money!!

        [–]RationalKing 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        This guy does a pretty good job : https://sivers.org/book

        [–]tuffbot324 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        There are websites doing book summaries, at least for business books. I would imagine there are the same for personal growth books as well.

        [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (9 children)

        It may sound cliché, but The Art of War - Sun Tzu. In whichever translation that floats your boat. Tons of people read it, feel special and think they've learned something- but the value of that book transcends primitive military strategy and shallow interpersonal applications. It's greatest value is realized when you immerse your brain in the author's brilliant passion for domination and let it saturate your inner psychology. Tzu's strategies evidence a mechanical and emotional comprehension of human nature.

        One of the cardinal attributes of masculinity is the ability to destroy and conquer other men after you put their necks under your boot. Never forget that.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        In a similar vein, I would recommend The Prince by Machiavelli.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Upvoted because Machiavelli. Although I disagree with him on some particulars, his heart was in the right place.

        [–]RestoreTheUnion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I think you are absolutely correct: Sun Tzu may have been the first military realist, and his advice was exquisitely useful both in principle, though it should be remembered the specific context it was written. All its premises, however, appear to be 'true,' meaning they describe mechanics that are at least vaguely identifiable, based upon phenomena of his context. Sun Tzu presents us with a fact-based world. As in the old aphorism: Seek truth from facts.

        I would be deeply interested in engaging in a discussion with you on the arts of war, in order to find an answer to the question: Are all people created equal?

        My initial suggestion is here:

        The idea of whether or not all people are created equal must be premised upon reality. Fantasy worlds may be presented, and for a time they may be successful in argument if they can explain phenomena identifiable in reality. Redpillers are realists: they discovered that there are social mechanics unexplained in society, and discovered ways to use them, leading to more literal power. A phenomenon we could perhaps call manipulating sexual arbitrage.

        I suggest that there is another arena that is to some extent left out of this debate: The victory of people's armies and the fact of what American society is, and what it is premised upon. The social inconsistencies of liberalism are starting to show the sophistry it is. It prevents greatness, aside from the godly lifestyle it assigns. But historical fact also shows the failure of the Communist in the equally valuable arena of the market. There is something about liberalism that empowers, something about the desire for more, to be great. A tradition of heroism, based upon Greek greatness, that it contains. One of the ideas founded on Plato's assertion that the strong and great should rule in order to defend society.

        Why was Plato so interested in a strong phalanx? Athens was at war. He could see that the final argument of kings was decided on the battlefield.

        But the military context has changed. In two wars, the spirit of enterprise that exists among the population of the People was harnessed, and directed against those who would be their masters, or claim mastery in the public arena of the world. With the twisted classical influence of the dream of Alexander and the Republic expressing differently in both areas, it was possible to harness the outrage of the American people in the service of mass armies made far deadlier by their equipment: the fruits of American enterprise.

        Though the adoption of the American military-industrial complex has allowed some post-fascist influences on American military thinking, the likely truth is that we'd lose all our toys in any major first round and have to reestablish.

        Then we ask the question: Do we follow the German path, with more and more expensive toys? Or the path of our past, with the modern version of tanks made by Ford? I think the latter path has been proven stronger.

        A future popular army of the United States would indeed require the ethics of the Union or the Greatest Generation, but simply would require respect for women and transpeople and hunters and people who participated in gun and anime culture, really would eliminate subcultures and return all these things to simply matters of private taste. Manners could return. Manners, literally, are the tools of the redpiller. They are means of social enforcement of propriety.

        Such things could possibly become simply the private matters of We the People, and rejecting one's public honor as a possible fellow soldier would be a social outrage that we could loudly assert our truths publicly on, showing courage in the public space. But we would never make the mistake of others. We would root these things entirely in our past and manners. And this time, due to the facts of technology and past victory, We the People would mean all.

        A way of enforcing what can be said to be great, while seeking truth from facts: We the People are sovereign. What is great is in the interests of our armies. We know from history that the greatest of our armies against any definition of evil we agree upon, are the mass armies of our grandest victories.

        This is the spirit of the Greatest Generation. It's what adding a little shame to American culture is like. We're going to have to compete with China, in a hopefully friendly rivalry, in the real world. There's more than a billion of them, and they go to school. We need to be fact-based. And as we have seen from the Redpill, fact-based worlds are much easier to get laid in.

        I suppose that means some sort of removal of business tax and stakes for all, with a backdrop of minimum basic income to make sure future potential military or economic GIs, even if it is never done, but as a mimetic private and Internet mobilization, would happen. Or else execute a lot of them. Because it appears to be a fact of history that We the People are willing to stand and die when their eyes are opened. And some of them can even do some killing along with it.

        How many redpillers would be willing to live in that world? It would at least be consistent, honest, and account for the facts. People might have a limited top income, such as in Japan, but without stakes at stake we could guarantee freedom of association.

        Those who speak of economic engines oft seem to know little about how engines work. They work best in the long run when carefully maintained within safe operating parameters. Our economy likes it run a little looser, with a badass We Can Do It spirit. Let's think of what it would take to pull it off.

        Because, the CCP's made it clear. They want it all back, and they're going to not /quite/ pick a fight over it, either. I suggest this is how Deng Xiaoping thought. Add some enterprise to the Party. Delay and mollify the liberals as much as possible. We must allow some to get rich first. Look what happened for them in the real world, our liberal news notwithstanding.

        But we can't and should not do it their way, because we need American characteristics. Responsible and free people and enterprise. A nation of minutemen. Unless we really claim only some of us are created equal.

        Which is it? What did Sun Tzu show us about an army of women?

        It's not impossible. So the compromise is with the women against the old masters with classical educations who talk themselves into thinking that they should rule and tell us what our place is and will use any lie to justify it, including racism, sexism, or classism.

        We the People are a free people. The battlefield shows to me that we appear to be all created equal - Audie Murphy wouldn't even be let in today's army. That Medal of Honor winner got a waiver for his 4-F. It's that ability to be a realist, to see the rules and manipulate them, like redpillers have learned to do in the sexual arena, that makes us have to accept the realities around us.

        If We the People are not all created equal, it appears that they are at least willing to pick a fight over it, as they have in the past. And capitalism has monetized the woman and the deviant from the classical norm such that they're already part of the popular army. The truth of equality could be sold as consistent with the message of Christ, for any who didn't require the sophistry of a white Jesus. If that's the case, which side would win?

        Do you think that the People's sovereignty is being challenged? If so, I suppose I would choose for no man to master me and give me a place. I would be no master, nor servant.

        Are all people created equal, in the world Sun Tzu presents, in the world of the repeating rifle and the drone?

        We appear to have two choices: the spirit of victory and enterprise for all of our past, or some new techno-fascism that privileges drone pilots. So to give my bona fides here, I confess that given that choice, I would choose the former.

        Which do you think is the redpill?

        [–]throwawaycomedian95 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        I read it and just didn't understand it at all or why it was valuable

        [–]RestoreTheUnion 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        It's valuable because it presents a deep, contextual presentation of solving problems in the real world involving those of leadership, reality, truth, deception, and so on all taken together. The Art of War is the pursuit of victory. It is part of the foundation of the Chinese maxim: 'Seek truth from facts.'

        [–]throwawaycomedian95 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Can you please explain how it relates to the real world? I guess I took the book very literally.

        [–]RestoreTheUnion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It provides a method for analyzing the real world and what's going on. Identify the reality and the phenomena. Reverse engineer the mechanics from the phenomena you see. Manipulate the mechanics to ensure your victory. Essentially, the redpiller's method, applied to war.

        [–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        One of Tsu's more famous aphorisms is "always give the enemy (opponent/competition etc) an escape route". In that way they will not fight to the death and victory is easier.

        In purely TRP/PUA terms, that becomes "ask the girl over to check out your guitar" instead of "ayy bby wan sum fuk?" In this way all the girl can do is not want to see your guitar, instead of being entirely direct and potentially getting turned down as a sexual entity which wrecks your frame and potentially nukes your social value.

        What Sun Tsu did was distill down the maddeningly large amount of context around good generalship into a simple and effective list of how to beat an opponent mentally physically and morally and so make victory inevitable.

        Ironically, the issue you have is precisely that lack of context in which to place and orient Sun Tsu's wisdom. I'd suggest looking for an annotated or commentated version of The Art of War, where later generals and businessmen provide the context around each aphorism needed to fit each into 21st century life. You can find one used on Amazon for cheap.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Sun Tzu's basic philosophy is in agreement with Conan's: "Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women."

        With the addition that your other options are not to crush them at all by building "the golden bridge." Alternatively, you may take their will and morale away so that they crush themselves for you.

        It's valuable. Masculinity centers on your ability to succeed in conflict- in all of it's complex incarnations.

        [–]newls 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida is one of my favourites.

        Truly great book on masculine energy, the captain-first mate dynamic with your woman, and most importantly to always remain true to your life mission.

        It's a bit new-agey in places but it's very palatable for newbies.

        Deida has a talent for writing RP-oriented stuff in a way that's palatable for the masses.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        +1 for The Way of the Superior Man

        That was my first self-improvement book that I read cover to cover. Completely agree that it's (more than a bit) new-agey in places and I tended to gloss over those parts, but the core information underlying everything is key.

        [–]Stonish 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Just use library genesis man.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        King, Warrior, Magician, Lover by Robert Moore.

        [–]vism810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I agree with you on this. Just I think for beginners will be to confusing. Otherwise a really good book, cannot recommend it enough!

        [–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        fuck this shit!

        I'm going to read every book on this list starting now.

        I already own

        The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People

        lets go!

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        • I am a big fan of Seth Godin, therefore I would add to the list Linchpin.

        • No More Mr Nice Guy is appropriate for most guys arriving here

        • And, if you're an introvert, Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

        [–]Polaris382 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        A few I havent heard of that sound interesting.

        [–]TRPFitness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Which one's specifically? Just our of curiosity.

        And thank you for the comment

        [–]Stonish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Another 15 books added to my must read section. Love these topics, thanks!

        [–]hugeveinycock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I've read a few of these and not to hijack, but anyone who sees this needs to read Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson. It is life changing - at least for me it was.

        [–]rulerofthehell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Mildly unrelated but read "The Game" by Neil Strauss.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        When I was going through the worst depression of my life, The Power of Now and its idea of the pain body, along with exercise, helped me to pull out of it.

        [–]0cd35a70 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Thick Face Black Heart is also good.

        [–]milstonfilston 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Do you just read self-help books?

        [–]all99kyle 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Nice list! Adding some of these to my to-read.

        I was kind of surprised to The Slight Edge at #1 (not sure if they are in any particular order). My sister gifted me The Slight Edge a couple months ago and after I hit chapter 4 I put it down. Chapter 1 was awesome, and the core concept of the slight edge makes a lot of sense, but it started to feel fluffy and repetitious. Maybe I didn't read far enough?

        People are mentioning No More Mr Nice Guy--That book was so good and spot on I had to walk away from it several times for shame. It pointed out like every character flaw in my being haha.

        I think in lists like these "WHEN" you pick up a book is a big factor in how life changing it is. For me, Never Get A Real Job by Scott Gerber was mind blowing, but nobody really talks about it. I think it's because it was the first book I ever read that said it was okay to not have a 9-5 and that was just unfathomable for a dude who just went through the hell of grad school and taking the CPA.

        I have a little blurb about 3 life changing books I like:

        http://all99life.com/2016/11/12/3-books-will-change-life-words-wisdom-28th/

        If you don't want to read the whole post, my 3 are: No More Mr Nice Guy Way of the Superior Man Bigger Leaner Stronger

        [–]TRPFitness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I agree, it is repetitive. But that concept is so powerful, I feel the repetition is necessary for it to be truly ingrained into one's mind. There's no particular order!

        Thanks for your comment.

        [–]YouSoGetMe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I read 48 Laws of Power in 2005, but got extra value from it by listening to the mp3's of it as I travelled to work and back each day. His intonation, tone, voice levels and way of speaking gave me a lot more and let me internalise it easier. I was actually pissed off when I got to work and had to stop listening to it, I looked forward to it each day.

        [–]Ayubdj7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Why hasn't no one mentioned PRACTICAL FEMALE PSYCHOLOGY for the Practical Man Joseph W. South David Clare Franco?

        [–]lozboss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        No Rational Male? No Mark Manson's "Models"? No Corey Wayne?

        Hmmm nah.

        [–]Buchloe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If you struggle with money and want some very practical steps to correct the situation, Your Money or Your Life really helped me.

        [–]parodixicalreaction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        MORE INFORMATION TO CONFUSE ME EVEN MORE

        [–]highenergysanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I didn't care for the 48 laws of power. I feel like every chapter could be titled "put yourself first and take advantage of others when you can."

        Decent message overall but breaking it out into 48 laws seemed forced

        [–]rodrigolrsilva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Cannot reccomend enough The Art of Learning, by Josh Waitzkin. I've heard of him through Tim Ferriss, and while I think Tim can be repetitive, and generally is simply a compiler of stuff you find out there if you put in the time(useful for someone new to self development, but if you've spent some time reading about it I find Tim's stuff really repetitive), Josh's book is definitive. It has some points which would be common sense, but overall makes you dive into a high level mindset by nailing key aspects often ignored. It's more about the mindset one should have, but not in the sense that doesn't offer practical advice. I found it to be really clear on what it takes, practically, for you to be at the top of your field. While many stuff on learning is, as Tim's stuff, repetitive, I find The Art of Learning to be an "all in one" book. If you read it, you know how to get to the top. A lot of other stuff you find out there is just rambling over topics Josh already discusses.

        [–]wailei 0 points1 point  (7 children)

        I suggest only one book and that's the Holy Bible. There is nothing in the world that is not addressed in the Holy Bible.

        [–]aDrunkenWhaler 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        No no no, it's the Quran! Allah can slap Jesus so hard his 5 foot frame will drop faster than Mary's old school panties when God knocked at the door.

        Ps- I thought you were trolling, but I see you keep posting religious crap. Stop sucking Jesus's dick bro. Or suck it on other threads.

        [–]wailei -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

        I give you a upvote and you are funny ;)

        [–]AnEndlessDream 0 points1 point  (4 children)

        He just disrespected your beliefs. Why would you reward him?

        [–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        He's mixing 'turning the other cheek' with 'holding frame' and 'amused mastery'. In other words, trying to take the bitch slaps like a confused Jesus would.

        [–]wailei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        A fool will remain a fool with his folly. Avoid a fool at all cost. He mocking me would change nothing in my relation with Christ.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Great list if you're a pseudo-philosopher business major that wants to feel smart without reading something that doesn't have pictures in it.

        [–]TRPFitness 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Alright, obviously your perspective is clear.

        I'm sure people appreciate your opinion, but do you know what's more productive? Recommending some other books, or just being more specifical why you don't like these books.

        How about something constructive?

        [–]RPFlame 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Ego is the enemy

        I liked that book but a complementary and more actionable one with similar premise is "Your Own Worst Enemy: Breaking the Habit of Adult Underachievement" by Ken Christian. It helped me break the ego protection blue pill conditioning that favors comfort zone over long-term results and find my own mission.

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

        Never read a self-help book and never will. IT, Carrie and the belgariad series are my drug.

        [–]TRPFitness 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Thanks bro. I've heard some really good things about the wart of art. Would you compare it to any on the list?

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Why self help books man? Do you like sit down, study and take notes then try to recite them in public?