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Red Pill ExampleNicole Kidman Reminds Jimmy Fallon He Didn’t Ask Her Out … Twice! ‘You Were So Not Interested’ (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Daddie0

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/nicole-kidman-reminds-jimmy-fallon-153551416.html

This is a good example of a few things.

  1. Sometimes you think a women is out of your league, and she really isn't.
  2. A man doesn't show interest, or is oblivious to a women's interest and the hamster spins on overdrive. Will still bother her even years later.

*she reminded Fallon that the two had once gone on a date.

“You wouldn’t talk,” she told Fallon then. “You wouldn’t say anything, and then you put a video game on or something … and so after about an hour and a half, I thought, ‘He has no interest, this is so embarrassing’ and then I was like, ‘Maybe he’s gay.’ ”*

No interest in me?! WTF is he gay?! No maybe he is just not into you? Or thinks you are out of his league?

*Fallon teased Kidman about the failed date on Thursday — but the Oscar winner didn’t appear to be laughing. “I so didn’t want to come back,” she said.

She then reminded the 42-year-old comedian that their date wasn’t the only time he blew her off. “You had a chance to ask for my number a second time and you didn’t,” she said.

“We were at David Fincher’s house — I think it was David’s house,” she explained. “And it was when Brad and Jen were still together, so it was a long time ago. And you could have asked for my number then because it was round two — second chance. And you still didn’t ask for it.”

He appeared to not remember — which only seemed to upset Kidman more. “That’s even more offensive that you don’t remember,” she said. “You’re kidding, aren’t you? Do not pretend!”*

*“Do you remember the kitchen and the buffet? They had the food laid out in the kitchen — it was a big dinner party. And my agent had said, ‘Jimmy’s gonna be there and you’ll see — he can ask for your number.’ And we were lurking in the kitchen cause everyone went out. And I’m waiting and waiting and waiting. And you’re at the buffet — and you still didn’t ask for my number.”

“You were so not interested,” Kidman added, pointing out how the audience was shocked. “It’s okay… it’s okay…”

Fallon said that the real reason the audience is shocked is because “You were out of my league.”

“They’re like, ‘He wouldn’t have a chance in hell with Nicole Kidman! Why would I even ask you?’ ”*

The best part is Jimmy didn't even think he had a shot with her, and the more he ignored her, the more it seemed to bother her / want him more.


[–]1Kite_Blight 258 points259 points  (86 children)

I really enjoyed this post.

I think back on my life and a lot of Nicole Kidman actions resonate with the behavior of other women I've met.

And it's cemented this idea that's been bouncing around in the back of my head for a while, but never really bubbled to the surface until now.

I realize now a woman doesn't show interest in the same way a man does.

They will place themselves in situations where they hope you'll ask them out or escalate the situation. But they won't do it themselves.

They'll wait for you to do it. And if you never do it, the relationship will come to a grinding halt.

For the longest time I didn't understand that.

What was even more confusing is that when I didn't escalate, these women would cut off all ties with me.

In other words, if I didn't make the next move, if I failed to be bold, these women wouldn't just maintain a friendship with me.

They would, without compromise, cut off all ties.

I considered a lot of these women pretty good acquaintances. So this was an incredibly weird reaction that I couldn't understand.

I never realized just how much they were insulted by my lack of escalation. They really took it personally in a way that I don't think men would.

They wanted me to pursue them. They would place themselves in situations where I could have asked them out, been more physical, and escalate the relationship.

I never did.

And apparently that really pisses women off.

Strange as it is to say, Nicole Kidman's internal dialogue about Jimmy Fallon really opened my eyes to the way women think about men.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 76 points77 points  (25 children)

They'll wait for you to do it.

They do, and sometimes they'll even directly tell you this is what they're doing, but still not do anything themselves.

Eg a text that says "I'm sitting here waiting for you to call me, just like girls do when they want a guy to call them".

It's really hard to take them seriously sometimes, especially when you realise that they are communicating interest in the same way that they communicate disinterest.

Sometimes I feign disinterest and misunderstandings to tease her until she's utterly exasperated before I pounce.

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    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 12 points13 points  (11 children)

    Ahhhh come on, it's fine.

    She's following the girl script and telling you directly what she wants... that's ok. She's being irresponsible and childish sure, she's following the passive-girl script sure..... but she's also directly telling you what she wants.

    Controlling.... sure, but once you're immune to that (keep your options open, don't be obedient, etc) it's irrelevant.

    Look... it's like a dog that's trying to manipulate you into giving it attention. It's really just giving you an option, and you're free to take it, or laugh at her, or tease her, or all the above. She's letting you stay on the script of being a man and maintaining polarity and attraction.

    It's like a girl saying "let's play hide and seek. If you find me, you can fuck me. If you can't find me, I'm upstairs in the closet"

    [–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (10 children)

    I'm in a 10 year long relationship, these things have switched into something else.

    "I'm awaiting you to do your duties as a man, to address my stupid insecurities, bad mood and general sadness. To have gentle romantic sex with me despite how much tired and not in the mood you are, BECAUSE OF ME, and despite how shit looking I am. You won't get sleep until it's done, and done correctly, because I'll do everything to get your attention no matter what."

    Still don't know how to address this shit correctly, I just can't sleep next to someone doing everything to have me not sleeping by crying and doing emotional child crisis. All I think about is just going out and radio silencing, but that doesn't solve the fact I need to sleep...

    Thankfully it doesn't happen often at all.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (7 children)

    Still don't know how to address this shit correctly

    Lead, ignore shit, maintain your options to leave her presence if she's annoying. Like putting a naughty dog in the doghouse. You can't throw her out, but you can leave.

    First annoying words: "Stop that now".

    Second annoying words: say nothing, calmly grab your keys and leave your house without your phone.

    , I just can't sleep next to someone doing everything to have me not sleeping by crying and doing emotional child crisis. A

    Bizarrely she is upset not because of what she says she is upset about, but because she's sleeping next to a mangina. She feels scared and alone because you are not being a man.

    Stop placating her and start LEADING her.

    Also seriously consider leaving.

    [–]RedDeadCred 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Sounds passive aggressive. Just laugh at her.

    [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Not even. Just bend her over. Woman are bitches when they're horny and you don't put out.

    [–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Bizarrely she is upset not because of what she says she is upset about, but because she's sleeping next to a mangina.

    Well I don't know what aspects of me make her react like this. Ignoring is exactly what pushes her into craving more for my attention and punishing me more every minute I don't spend placating her, and I've been trying to lead her, whatever that word means, tell her how she should behave and how her crisis is childish and not worth a 10 year long relationship.

    The last time she did this to me was because I shoved some hard truth in her mind about who I am. Not sure if that was qualifiable of mangina gesture.

    But that's the worst ones, there are plenty of little shit tests, expectations, disappointment, and shit from her that I can't really take seriously but that is still toxic over time. After 10 year of relationship, fucking her is not everytime a "win win" situation, sometimes it feels just like a chore.

    I very often consider leaving but there are some hooks now preventing me to. The relation seems awful as I describe it right here, but thankfully it has gotten better this year thanks to TRP. She won't admit any of it, but I definitively see her being more submissive since my SMV went higher: I lost weight, gained muscles, earn more money, am less submissive, am more involved in my personal projects, am more leading, sticking more to my opinions and imposing more who I am instead, making her understand she's replaceable and that I don't conceive love and sexuality the same as her.... just trying my best...

    [–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I'm just about finished with The Way of the Superior Man and your problems are pretty well described in this book(the last third of it especially), I highly recommend reading it, it's not very long.

    In essence, she's sexually unsatisfied. You're fucking her more than opening her up and making love. That's what she's craving and why she's demanding romantic sex, it simulates it somewhat, but doesn't fully. The manifestation of her unhappiness is her being bitchy and what not.

    Something is preventing you from letting go during sex and giving in to the moment with her. From letting you ravage her and fuck her deeply as you desire, not just romantically.

    If you look at the way in which she keeps testing you, she is telling you what your problem and where your hold up is.

    I'm in an LTR of over 7 years, so I do understand what you're going through somewhat.

    But, I actually enjoy sex a lot more over these last couple years than most before. I've learned to get lost in her fully when having sex, learned to have full body orgasms. It's rather different, and the getting lost in her fully is what makes it seem like making love more than anything else. Nothing else exists during those times but me, her, and our intertwined emotions and energy.

    That said, I still get shit tests, but they are revolving around my current area of lacking(as they always are), which mostly revolves around my mission. Sexually, I get no shit tests really(anymore I should say), but she still pushes me how I need, and completely unconsciously too.

    I can tell you and your girl are both frustrated, it makes you want to avoid her. But realize her mood is more dependent on her love life and satisfaction in love than yours is. She doesn't know how to fix the relationship and improve things either, it's up to you to lead the both of you.

    [–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I've always felt like I needed divercity to be kept entertained and romantic and at this point it feels like a curse, I'm not sure where to start about full body orgasms, but thanks for your advices.

    I know things are already getting better with efforts, with things I read and advice like yours I know where to progress. Thanks again!

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    and punishing me

    This is a relationship inversion. That she even CAN punish you is a problem. You are now the controlled one. This makes her unhappy.

    not worth a 10 year long relationship

    She'd stop doing it if she wanted to keep you AND if you might leave.

    She won't admit any of it,

    Ahhhhh they never do. Responsibility is something to be avoided for women. You have to accept that this is their nature.

    there are some hooks now preventing me to.

    Your "try to make it work" attitude directly translates into her bad behaviour, you know that right ?

    [–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Except my try to make it work has changed, I am now more focused on increasing my smv and learning RP truths and it showed great results. Before, I was focused on being a better human being, resilting in beta traits, then i focused onto understanding her and manipulating her, it had some results but notcsustainable on the long run. And now I am focusing on me, no more faking because that never lasts, i try to do things for me, but that's a long slope and i am eagger for comment like yours to understand what's wrong with ME.

    this kind of situation is rarer and rarer, I'm really optimistic and will keep my efforts.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Dude, I kept having this issue. If I don't bang my wife at least every other day (unless I'm sick or passing a kidney stone) around 11:00 p.m. (I like to go to sleep by 9:00 p.m. to get up for the gym in the morning). She starts to cry and claim insecurity (granted I've cheated a lot and the wife is 28 and I got busted banging a 19 year old that turned 20). Or she'll say "if I don't drain your balls, someone else will."

    If I'm exhausted she'll start crying and refuse to go to sleep because it's more important to be a selfish emotional child. So I started sleeping in a different room. Banging her out early right after dinner by telling her to take a shower, grabbing a shower after her, and railing her out for a good twenty minutes (it's all she needs most days).

    It's gotten better since the last time she busted me cheating because I explained all the reasons the 19 year old was better. Yeah the wife gives head but it's to get me rock hard, not get me off, so I can pound her pussy like it owes me money. And she's more affectionate in and outside of the bedroom (I was feeling like a walking dildo with a life support system). And thankfully she's not much into gentle romantic sex (maybe once a week). She just wants lots of multiple orgasms with a hard thrashing finisher a'la doggy style.

    Women will not give a fuck about how much you sleep. It's like a universal thing. You have to get your own.

    [–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Haha that is reassuring to know these things aren't uncommon! Your story indeed sounds like mine, except I am not even cheating or show any hint that it could happen, but she still has the insecurities

    She is pregnant right now, inflated bellies repulse me, it's difficult to want sex with her especially since I get to be careful and not touch this not touch there not this not that... x) outside that she is carring for my pleasure

    [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I like knowing their pussy is wet for me and that they're telling me to come get it. Ignore the wrapping paper, enjoy the gift.

    [–]Eastuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    After 10 year of thecsame pussy you grow tired of it and sometimes you want to say no without it being the nuclear bomb

    [–]hellnomrrmrm 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Sometimes I feign disinterest and misunderstandings to tease her until she's utterly exasperated before I pounce.

    Hahahaha how does that make you and her feel?

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Me: awesome.

    Her: who cares :)

    [–]hellnomrrmrm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Her: who cares :)

    To keep tabs on your experiments haha

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      [–]Keylime29 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      People just don't really think things through. How awkward for you!

      [–]aanarchist 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      it's as if they actually have no social skills, but society for some reason says that women are the social ones. they're actually antisocial as fuck and most of the time wear a mask. having an authentic conversation is like pulling teeth with most women.

      [–]Purecorrupt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      My friend's ex-girlfriend was a girl I considered the most boring girl I have ever tried speaking to. Granted my conversations can be pretty "out there" in social settings.

      I remember I tried to joke about sex or something before and she was having none of it. She shut that shit down. Wasn't funny to her. Wasn't interesting. She didn't try to change the conversation. Her way of a conversation was asking you how you were and then contributing nothing. One of my other friends said he talked to her for 20 minutes once I was like holy shit I guess you talked about yourself the entire time.

      In improv they teach you to say yes and or I know because to continue a conversation. She was basically a "no" and then silence person. Fucking horrid unless you just want to exist next to another person.

      On the other spectrum there is a different girl that one of my sports league mates met on Bumble. This chick is very blunt. Alarmingly blunt (my alarms going off anyway). 27, little chubby, business professional, and most likely a giant slut without self-professing it.

      She told us she brought up having kids to my friend on their first date (the day before we met them). Admitted to riding the cock carousel in drinking games. Threesomes etc. Told me her type before her current bf was dudes in or just out of relationships (wtf lol).

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      Ah this reminds me of when a girl begged me to kiss her during lecture break in the classroom. I did not. Went downhill from there. They don't care if you're shy or whatever issue you might have. For someone to actually ask me to kiss her even as just teasing is big.

      A green light is a green light. And yeah you could've asked her to hang out later.

      [–]PedroIsWatching 14 points15 points  (3 children)

      a girl begged me to kiss her during lecture break

      My past BP self would have immediately assumed someone was playing a prank on me.

      Even today in that situation I'd imagine briefly thinking that someone is trying to humiliate me.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Well when a girl dares you to kiss her in public or in a place where it's normally not appropriate you'll do it right?

      [–]tenmillionbucks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah it's like this YouTube video I saw of this hot chick asking random guys if they wanted to go and fuck her... Every one of them declined, there's bound to be scepticism in weird situations like that.

      [–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      middle school bs shit yup. some girls would be bullies and pull that shit on me, looking back I could have turned the tides by being alpha and saying something snarky back then grabbing them and kissing them like they were pretending to say they wanted and they'd be taken aback for a moment but then decide they liked the strength. if I knew then what I know now right

      [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I would have brought it up again later and forced the conversation back into gear again, with something like, "Yeah she was nice but obviously not into me", or "I was looking forward to asking her to talk later but she was kind of cold", or "I was looking forward to talking more in a more appropriate situation/place."

      She has a lot of nerve to be all pissy that you didn't live up to her preconceived notions of what should have happened.

      Hopefully her daughter wasn't the fatty/ugly/unwanted girl that often people try to push onto single men. That would have been incredibly uncomfortable, and one reason red flags go up IMMEDIATELY when someone says "I have a nice girl I'd like you to meet."

      Last one I 'met' was 35 yr old latina, 4.5/10. No thanks!

      [–]RedDeadCred 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Another reason why women don't belong at a construction site

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I can't even begin to explain how many times this has happened to me. It's depressing how many times I pussied out making a move and then the girl ended up becoming bitter and never talking to me again.

      [–]Shieldless_One 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      This is so true. After realizing this in my Red Pill journey I can look back and find instances of girls hanging around me then suddenly dropping off the face of the earth.

      I thought they just started to dislike me but now I realize it was because they were attracted to me and just didn't think I was attracted to them.

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 20 points21 points  (18 children)

      I notice woman who have wanted me to hit on them from my social circle (always the semi upper tier women honestly, 3 in total) would put themselves in the situation. One even asked me, and i indirectly blew them all off, without even realising, because i didn't understand why they would even consider me. I absolutely hated myself and had zero experience/interest from women so why are these women acting weird with me and pretending to act a certain way?

      After this happened, they tried to never talk to me. Actively avoided me at social events. I never chased them because i've never done that. But every time we'd bump into each other we'd have a cool fun couple minute catch up and then they'd suddenly have to run off, and never ever engage with me, on facebook, in real life, or anything again. I never understood why they're purposely blanking me. Then i'd go chase a HB4 or something who would simply be uninterested in me or my beta game.

      I saw the one who openly asked me out a few years ago, a few weeks ago. Usual dynamic. Fun catchup, lots of jokes, stories and innocent kino, then sudden excuse to change parties and then disappear, always initiated by her.

      [–]PEDRO_de_PACAS_ 0 points1 point  (14 children)

      I understand the logic of all this, but new to the lingo. HB4?

      [–]Gawernator 8 points9 points  (9 children)

      Read the sidebar dude.

      [–]bowie747 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      Anything below a HB6 could not actually be a Hot Babe so I actually prefer not to use this system but it's what's popular.

      [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Ever seen a girl with a perfect ass, nice tits, but omgwtf happened to her face, those teeth, that five head on which you could project Gladiator in IMAX format? Thats a fuckable 4, paper bags not included.

      [–]PEDRO_de_PACAS_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Exactly what I was thinking. In my scale, 5 is a fairly neutral attraction rating.

      [–]Keylime29 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Why would someone want to waste their time on someone that is clearly, in their mind, not interested in them? Its embarrasing for them, too. It might make more sense when you think about it that way. although when you don't even recognize that they were interested in the first place, it's gotta be confusing

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Yeah I probably didn't make my main point clear in the post. I mean I didn't even realise I rejected them and they're not willing to be platonic friends. They're straight up avoiding me. I have plenty other female friends in the social group. But these are very intentional about not talking to me or chilling ever, always get out of it. It's not a big deal but just something relevant to the comment I initially replied to.

      EDIT: yeah I completely missed your point. That makes total sense. But all these girls have gotten and left relationships since then, I was a minor blip on their radar at best. I can't imagine how their covert rejected proposals would still be embarrassing still 4 years later or whatever.

      [–]aanarchist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      it's not that you didn't realize you rejected them, it's that you didn't realize that they were hitting on you. it's not your fault for not asking them out because you didn't read some vague ass signals that you weren't even looking for in the moment. it's on her for not making it clear she was interested, you're not a mind reader.

      [–]bowie747 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      No matter how "equal" and "the same" society tells you men and women are, women will never perform the traditionally male roles of the dating game.

      [–]aanarchist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      i'll wife the one that does, otherwise she can enjoy being a plate. there will be no beta provision, and there will be no commitment of any kind, we've learned our lesson.

      [–]Daddie0[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

      Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! You got the point to the post.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      There's a single mom hb6 in one of my classes. Great to practice on, but I'm not getting involved in that shit. Over the course of the semester, she's progressively gotten more pissed off at me for not making a move. Asshole, jerk, I hate you are all frequently thrown about as she attempts to take me down for not giving her the meat. Hilarious to watch and Continue on

      [–]LarParWar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      There's a single mom hb6 in one of my classes.

      You're at the wrong school.

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Realizing this made me cringe so much when I first started reading TRP. I just had crippling approach anxiety (if you can even call it that when you already know the girl). Plenty of women put themselves in a position for me to grab my sack and ask them out and I just didn't do it... puke.

      The advantage is that once you realize it and are comfortable doing it - you're now in a spot that only about 25% of guys play in - the no shame game.

      [–]Drogba006 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      No shame game. I like it. It's the way to play

      [–]J_AsapGem 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      have you ever read the book of pook? he talks about this as " womanese " language that women speak it's very informative should check it out if you haven't, i always keep at ear out to listen for it when i'm interacting, like last week at work this girl was asking me " what's the easiest way to say no to a guy that ask for your number but u don't want to give it " in other words, she was trying to indicate to me that she is desireable, proving herself to me that i should ask for her number because other men desire to have her number, it's really good to be present in the moment i look back at all the simple stuff i missed back in the day that ruined potential lays.

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Damn that would have went right over my head. What did you do/say.

      [–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      well i try not to collude privacy/work together, never ends good she works with me, i just played it off and gave a little advice and what i realize since that happen her attitude to me changed, as what the OP was talking about with nicole kidman.

      [–]blank_taxonomy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Can confirm, womanese section is good for "socially awkward" guy like me. Leaves you wondering about all the missed opportunities =/

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      This post is fucking illuminating. So many girls I know have suddenly given me the cold shoulder after meeting with them and not escalating. I wonder if you could expand on

      |will place themselves in situations where they hope you'll ask them out

      Physically placing themselves in your vision? Some girls I think are interested pretty much come up to me and stand there and Im thinking wtf and I stay quiet...

      [–]hellnomrrmrm 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      I'm experiencing the exact same thing. Can I get your advice on this field report/situation?

      I went out with a girl. I thought we were good acquaintances. I find her attractive (short hb9) but I treated her like a guy because I wanted her to stay as acquaintance, I think I'm a 7/10, and I didn't know TRP. Then we went out on a dinner together at a really expensive place. I was curious about the food. We just went there and didn't call it anything. I again treated her as a guy. Didn't even flirt with my eyes. I also got bored and kindof disapproved some things she said. When leaving, I hugged her with one hand like I'm touching a stove while she is hugging my neck. We kept texting for a few weeks. Then she cut contact about a month ago. Last text was mine, I only sent 1 text and that's it.

      Is there a way to make her a good acquaintance again? Just send another text and setup a meetup, right, then how should I treat her? Like a guy or a girl? Should I eye fuck her if we go on a dinner? She is in a LTR with a girl. She is exclusive but says she said she misses flirting with people.

      I escalate and I see 5 outcomes. Good to bad.

      1. Fuck her, "just happened", and remain acquaintance, no hard feelings

      2. Get an eventual no and remain acquaintance, no hard feelings

      3. Get an eventual no and she completely gets me out of her life and avoid me forever. We work in the same business, different companies

      4. Fuck her, "just happened", and shit storm because she fucked a virgin and lowered her standards or cheated. She has 8 more years of relationship experience than me. Yes.

      5. Fuck her regularly, shit storm, drama, black mail, I'm fucked

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]LarParWar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You'll never know if you don't try. I suggest trying mildly-comically over-the-top. Exercise devious tactics to get interaction with her and go very hot very quickly. Devious tactics meaning no texting and no calling. Figure it out, you're probably going to get blown out. Go in expecting to get blown out.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I think this also explains why lena dunham flipped her shit when Odell Beckham ignored her. There she was willing and ready, he just had no interest.

        [–]newName543456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        In other words, if I didn't make the next move, if I failed to be bold, these women wouldn't just maintain a friendship with me.

        They would, without compromise, cut off all ties.

        I used to think pre-RP that not having constant platonic female friends was terrible and some sign of maladjustment.

        Needless to say, not believing that anymore. I prefer boom or bust approach, unless a woman is too unattractive to bother, then we can stay strictly platonic, but most for some reason don't want to anyway.

        [–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Pointing you per the request of an EC.

        [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It's the ones who will escalate or make the move you have to worry about. They're the real whackos.

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        What would you say about still trying again later. What about showing interest some time later when the occasion presents itself even if you didn't earlier? Could that ever work? I'm asking because I wonder if it's ever justified to try again or if you should just next it every time you blow it.

        [–]2kevin32 353 points354 points  (28 children)

        It appears to me that Nicole sees a handsome and much more successful man than she did 10 years ago, and is now regretting not dating him, but wants to blame him for not wanting her.

        As far as she's concerned he was a cast member on SNL and therefore "a nobody" in her eyes. Given she was still hot stuff at the time and was married to Tom Cruise, I bet on that date with Jimmy she was thinking "I can do so much better". Now she's becoming invisible in comparison to younger actresses and sees Jimmy making it big and is having regrets.

        It's a typical pattern of women rejecting average men, those men becoming above average while she becomes below average, and then she hamsters about "what could have been".

        [–]6d65746164656c7461 79 points80 points  (1 child)

        Very good alternative interpretation.

        [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I'm wondering if this is some sort of publicity stunt. Nicole ain't nothing young, now, but, she still has a rep for being hot, and she needs a boost. Fallon? My guess is his ratings are sagging, so producers said "Let's try and get a buzz going..."

        That's what it smells like to me.

        [–]chance01 27 points28 points  (0 children)

        Will buy this explanation. Is plausible. Great example in your posted link too.

        [–]2comment 16 points17 points  (4 children)

        I don't even know or like Fallon (from what little I've seen) but just looked up him and his wife up together and wow, he really married below his pay grade.

        She looked just okay 10 years ago (when they married) but in the meantime... time usually doesn't play well with women.

        [–]1RPAlternate42 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Fallon's wife has a nice face with good structure but her body is shapeless.

        Most comics started out, early in life, with not-high self-esteem. Humor is a known method for disarming people and those with poor social ability can be more sociable with humor. Humor gives the impression of a fun person to be around. A guy can have no luck with women but have lots of friends because he's a fun guy.

        I think Fallon was one of those who snagged what he thought was the best he could get at the time. If she's loyal and makes him happy then he keeps her around.

        Problem, here, is that he married a woman 7 years older than him and had his first kid with her when she was 46 years old.

        Yes he likely could have gone younger but in his head he might still be a guy people like to be around but not date; he wouldn't know what to do with a hotter woman... If Kidman was giving IOIs and he went to play a video game with her right there talking to him, he may not understand what a hot woman talking to him means.

        Damon's wife is pretty average. She appears younger than him, possibly by at least 10 years, but her biggest red flag, for me, is that she has been divorced. He's also raising that other dude's kid.

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          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Its pretty easy to see that Damons friendship with Affleck has affected him. When they both were up and coming actors Affleck most likely got all the attention from media and girls and Damon prob. felt second there.

          [–]Schrodingersdawg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Jesus fucking christ I just looked up their wives and matt damon's wife is not even as close to some of the sororstitutes I meet on campus

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (14 children)

          I knew before you even posted the link you were talking about Pepa and Will Smith. Talk about throwing away a lottery ticket. Dude is worth $250 million and she said "Nope...he was too nice". She probably regrets that shit every day.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (13 children)

          "I couldn’t appreciate a nice guy like Will Smith. He wasn’t thug enough. I was attracted to thugs and hoodlums. Will was too nice to me.”

          Wow. See, this is why I have no patience for women who go out with scumbags then complain when he treats her like shit.

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 1 point2 points  (12 children)

          they love alphas, not a shocker, but yeah will smith being a nice guy plus before his fame, I understand her rejecting him but wow what a mistake on her part. will smith is likely on the downlow gay tho anyway.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

          "Alpha" doesn't necessarily equal "thug" or "hoodlum", which are the kind of guys she says she was into. Guys like this are trouble, yet women actively pursue such men. A female friend of mine went straight from her piece-of-shit, physically abusive babydaddy to a nice, nerdy guy that her mother approved of. She at least learned her lesson, sadly some women never do.

          Will Smith, on the DL?! I'd never have taken him for a secret lemonade drinker. What makes you say that?

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 -1 points0 points  (6 children)

          I know I didn't say it did. do you assume that cuz will is black? black guys get called thugs but they are just doing what any alpha male does. doesn't mean anything in reality.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          No. I'm black myself, and I've caught grief because I don't act a certain way that people expect. When I was younger, I'd get by told black girls that I talk like a battyman (I really don't). I used the terms "thug" and "hoodlum" because that's what Pepa said she liked in a man in the article.

          [–]1StoicCrane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Trying to discredit will out of envy. In other words he's a "hater".

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

          yeah that's unfortunate, not sure what your experiences were like since I'm white, it's a whole other set of things to overcome. I once felt peer pressure in middle and high school to be kind of a white rap liking person, looking back that would have hindered my abilities as an adult to be financially successful so it's good I learned it was bs. But also I know society will see a black guy having a lot of girl friends and a lot of sex and criticize him more than for a white guy doing the same thing which is wrong.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I used to (and still do) get people saying weird things to me quite a bit. I don't even get angry about it anymore, it's more amusing than anything else.

          Some people let their musical tastes dictate too much of their life, which is idiotic, as is peer pressure.

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

          music defines a lot in our culture and I love it but like for example my favorite band is Radiohead and if I tried to dress and look like Thom Yorke it'd be lame, more recently I got steel toed boots and jeans as my typical attire just cuz it works.

          [–]1StoicCrane 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          Will is most likely on the down low gay tho anyway.

          This is the male form of calling a woman a slut. It undermines the SMV of competitors by calling their sexual viability into question. Stop being jealous of Will. He earned his status.

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          nope cuz who cares if he is gay except in this context it explains why he wouldn't care about her

          [–]1StoicCrane 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          In terms of Jimmy it's so Nicole Kidman can save face and protect her ego from being undesirable. Gotta read the sidebar or The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. Goes over this stuff in depth.

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          yeah I was talkin will smith here I know

          [–]MEpicLevelCheater[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Pointing you per the request of an EC.

          [–]McLarenX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Exactly. Let's not forget that the hamster wheel spins in overdrive with a captive audience. Women are great at revisionist history.

          [–]Toussant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          At this point, she looks like his aunt. 10 years ago, she still looked great but perhaps less so in person.

          ETA: well I'll be darned, his wife is the same age as Kidman.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 51 points52 points  (7 children)

          Maybe he’s gay.

          It's very common for women to use this as an ego defence when they are making their intentions extremely clear.... or at least extremely from their point of view (eg holding gaze for an extra 0.1 seconds)

          Fallon obviously called all this right because it worked. (Look at what they do, not what they say).

          Fallon said that the real reason the audience is shocked is because “You were out of my league.”

          Nice save if you want to get women to agree to why inaction (negging) is acceptable).

          [–]aanarchist 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          i looked at him, clearly i showed him my interest because he should know that if i look at him that it means i'm interested and want to be asked out. the down syndrome is next level. it almost feels as if i'm supposed to widow as many women as i possibly can to help evolution take place so that women can develop basic social skills.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          They think it is obvious because of solipsism.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Exactly.

          In all seriousness, women tell me what they've done to "make their intentions absolutely clear". The same women will complain that men they don't like are hitting on them. I ask how they've made their lack of interest clear. They describe the exact same behaviours.

          My conclusion: women push responsibility onto men.

          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          Some bird asked me if I was gay once. Didn't know how to take it

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          shit test and/or complaint that you're not escalating.

          A+A in the short term, consider escalating more if you like her.

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          me too once but It was deserved cuz I acted beta with a girl that was in to me.

          [–]SafeWordIsCommitment 40 points41 points  (9 children)

          She's almost a decade older than he is.

          1967 vs 1974.

          This has nothing to do with being in league and everything to do with the wall. Plus she's a year shy of 50. The wall was 2 decades ago.

          [–]slay_it_forward 13 points14 points  (3 children)

          She still would of been hot at 35.

          [–]fuxdpus 15 points16 points  (1 child)

          I never found her attractive. But maybe that's just me.

          [–]Leviticus59 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          It's not just you; I never thought she was all that hot either. You can walk into any shopping mall and see better looking babes within five minutes, even 50 year old ones.

          The glamour days of Hollywood are over, apparently. With the possible exception of a few like Salma Hayek, there are no longer any stars with the looks and magnetism of Raquel Welch, Lana Turner, and a host of others.

          [–]SafeWordIsCommitment 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Trying to find a picture of a young Nicole Kidman that would count for HB7 or higher. Search unsuccessful.

          [–]vagbutters 7 points8 points  (4 children)

          They find the beta provider traits increasingly attractive with age. Fallon isn't a looker but he has status and wealth.

          [–]cuntweiner 9 points10 points  (2 children)

          isn't a looker

          Have you seen the average 40 year old male? That man is a fucking adonis compared to most men his age.

          [–]vagbutters 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          most men his age.

          Most men these days are overweight beta males-- it's not much of a boon for him that he's a tad bit above that. Funny that people sympathizing with his physique aren't much better than him. Cold truths always show in the comments and the votes.

          [–]aanarchist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          need beta provision to gtfo already it's an outdated concept that holds women back

          [–]xnordx 95 points96 points  (8 children)

          Having been rejected by women I would consider way under my league but yet hooking up with women way out of my league with very little effort other than being at the right place and the right time I can confidently say while having "game" is important, with women success can be so random (hormones, current feelings, mood, experience). It's no joke when people say don't take anything personally when dating. It took several of the experiences above to confirm this. This is why it's so important to continually date, and like fishing keep casting. You don't cast once and get all pissed off. You enjoy the experience and the scenery and if you are lucky you bring home a catch and have dinner. Cheesy metaphor but true.

          [–]PEDRO_de_PACAS_ 30 points31 points  (4 children)

          In my experience, it's easier to get with very attractive women than moderately attractive ones. I think they feel they have less to prove through a mate.

          [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 19 points20 points  (3 children)

          Most insecure betas never approach them either, those who say fuck it I'll talk to her then do so are invisible to her and repulsive. The 5 to 7 gets hit on constantly, so they have an overinflated self worth. Sometimes the hottest girls rarely get attention.

          Sometimes.

          [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Yes, like every sixth millennium.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I've known some hb9s and hb9.5s that seemed extremely grateful that I gave them any attention at all (because no one ever hit on them or seemed interested, which actually destroyed their self esteem) while shitty hb6s that I talked to just to be friendly acted like I was stalking them or some shit.

          [–]zxDanKwan 16 points17 points  (1 child)

          While red pill isn't just about the dating and banging, there are certainly those who will focus on that aspect.

          If that's what you're after, then spend some time learning how to spot the hamster, how to get it spinning on its wheel, and how to direct that force of nature where you want it.

          With effort and practice, you can learn how to take a woman through a whole range of emotions (women love those emotional roller coasters) that will end with bringing her into your frame, ready for you to take control.

          I've seen dudes turn women I would have sworn were asexual into plates, simply because they know how to work the locking mechanisms that release the hamster.

          With the use of A&A, pressure flips, and amused mastery, i have been able to run every shit test from my wife over the last two years through the proverbial wringer. I don't have to ask for sex anymore. I have to ask for nights off.

          [–]SetConsumes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Ha it is certainly nice to be in the position to ask for nights off.

          [–]2comment 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          They had studies before I think in college where most guys would rate half the female faces as attractive, and I think with women it was less than 5 or 10%. And I think it's more than actual abundance and partly genetic - just look at some of the women Bill Clinton (too many to count), Arnold Schwarzenegger (that old maid, etc), or Hugh Grant (street walker level whore) fucked when already famous -- women truly not even in the same game, let alone league as them. But a fuck is a fuck sometimes.

          In any case, the main point is not to take rejection to heart in terms of establishing what level you can play in. Especially thirsty guys with little experience who wouldn't turn down anything less than an oinking hog and maybe not even then. Don't expect that same attitude on women (i.e. she turned you down because clearly you're a last place loser), what one girl gets picky about may not matter to the next. Some have truly fucked up criteria and issues.

          If you get rejected a dozen times in a row, yeah, then it's time to wonder "wtf is my problem and how do I fix it?"

          [–]HighOnNicotine 24 points25 points  (1 child)

          A similar incident, Jennifer Lawrence wanted Seth Meyers to ask her out, but he didn't. Which only made her want to ask him out.

          [–]1Pink1Stink 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Ew, seth is one of the biggest cucks on television. Guess there is hope for anyone.

          [–]REDitor100 22 points23 points  (1 child)

          It almost sounds like jimmy may not even be interested in her which is why he's super dodgy

          [–]casemodsalt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Ha that would be even better. Bitch won't leave him alone

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          [–]ramaga 16 points17 points  (0 children)

          Exactly. It reminds me of when I returned to my graduate school for a visit the year after I graduated. A woman I barely knew in one of the classes below me came up to me and said--and this is a direct quote--"I would have fucked you if you looked this good when you were in school here." All I could think was "You arrogant bitch. Both then and now I wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole."

          [–]yomo86 34 points35 points  (4 children)

          Fallon aka the one that got away -- rich, famous ever increasing SMV. Kidmann post-wall, couple of kids from different men, remembered for her semi-porno with Cruise. She spins it into: He is a beta or gay for not asking me out.

          [–]Jani1157 19 points20 points  (1 child)

          This is where the arrogance of women come in. "There couldn't be anything possibly wrong with me," "I'm a woman, I exist" in her mind she's done what she needed to do. Because the guy didn't give her attention, he must be gay etc etc

          [–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          couple of kids from different men

          Nah, two of her kids are hers with Urban (which she didn't have back then), the other two are adopted, so they arguably don't really count.

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          one saving grace she has going for her.

          [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

          If you're an attractive, high SMV man, the woman will definitely give off all kinds of signals (IOIs) like crazy for you to approach/ask them out. But the person making that initial move has to be the man. Do women sometimes ask out men? Sure. But this is rare. Whether you like it or not, or whether or not you think it's "right," the onus is on the man to approach and have that killer instinct the vast majority of the time

          [–]Horus_Krishna_2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          it's like awalt. are all women like that? sure there is a 1% or less cool unicorn girl but it's rare so why focus on it, might as well say AWALT cuz it's basically true.

          [–]tenin2010br 17 points18 points  (3 children)

          The "maybe he's gay" shit happened to me when I was in my younger days. Chilling with these college freshmen and brought them back to my room to watch Netflix. I didn't make a move or anything (still in my heavy BP days myself and made the mistake of trying to be friends first) and later I ran into one of them and she was surprised to hear I was in a relationship. She told me she thought I was gay because I didn't make a move, and I just laughed it off. Seems like a very common defense mechanism.

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          Heard this Count less times from women who I blew it with. "Oh he's not actively trying to beef me? He must be gay then!" Sometimes I was too BP, other times I had mild interest at best. Didn't really matter to them

          [–]slay_it_forward 19 points20 points  (0 children)

          But if you go for it as a beta then you're a creep sexual harrasser.

          So your options are gay or potential rapist.

          [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          If I don't try to fuck them, there is a good reason. Something about them is off, so I don't go farther. No shortage of willing sluts out there. They know I'm not gay, so if I don't escalate, they know it's probably them. The hamsters will hamster.

          [–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          The first video, a year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtsNbxgPngA

          This feels genuine.

          But the second time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSsH6tYBgD8&

          well, might be made up.

          Both videos are fun to watch, you can see how Kidman is acting when she wants to fuck someone REALLY BADLY.

          [–]casemodsalt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Why didn't she fuckin ask him if she was so god damn eager

          [–]RPFlame 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          The best part is Jimmy didn't even think he had a shot with her, and the more he ignored her, the more it seemed to bother her / want him more.

          That happened with someone I met at the beach in my BP days. She approached me for a smoke, she gave me her phone number and we went for a couple of dates and after every date she'd send me a message on why I didn't kissed her or hugged her and I was "that'd be really awkward" to her. In truth, I was finding her hot and out of my league and like a good blue pill idiot I was too busy hiding my masculine intentions.

          4th date she jumped out of the cab she came with, grabbed me by the arm and dragged me inside. We then went to my home to fuck.

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Nicole is probably not happy that she was not able to lock down Jimmy Fallon

          [–]gtypoDD22 6 points7 points  (5 children)

          I have a problem with this. Girls give me blatant signals, but I don't like being manipulated or coerced into things I wasn't planning on doing.

          Girl wants me to hit on her? Great. However, she could also be using me to make another guy jealous, validate herself or whatever (all of this has happened to me). So do I really want to approach? I can say no to pussy because my self-respect is more important. If a girl wants something from me she can start a conversation instead of pathetic little games.

          [–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          So you want the girl to approach you like a dude would?

          Girls are manipulative, they always want plausible deniability and don't prefer direct communication. If one gives you a signal and you like her, then approach, it's still your choice.

          [–]ballsy1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          She wasn't interested, she was just fucking with him... Regardless he still should have tried.

          [–]OmegaMan2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          This is one of the best posts I've read on this subject. In my past I never realized I was blowing off girls and when they later gave me the cold shoulder I really thought they didn't like me and never really did. Give this post to your sons, and other young men. It will help them enormously.

          [–]Luis_McLovin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          this guy is an idiot to think he didnt have a chance as a celebrity age 42 with a woman age 49. in fact, he wouldve been in eaaassy

          [–]DDOS_Feeler 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Nicole has just hit the wall.

          [–]perplexedm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          Just ? She hit the wall decades back.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          jimmy fallon probably thought she was unattractive and just wanted to put on a show

          [–]perplexedm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Remember folks, this lady is 49 year old, not 19.

          I always felt just to prove old women are valuable, industry is pushing old tarts at us. Lot of young women loses their chance because of this. And there is a general lull in industry which is not able produce good romantic films.

          [–]NeoreactionSafe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

           

          Didn't we do this story about a year ago?

          Nicole Kidman is an old lady now... probably entering menopause. (49)

           

          [–]flip69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I've know this angle for years... that and applied game theory.

          [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (7 children)

          This post reminds me of my last couple of conquests, namely one I posted about 2 months ago...an HB9 that works for the same company as me. I pretty much baited her for months by hardly showing interest. Meanwhile mind you, she's one of these manipulative succubui who uses her looks to get everything she wants.

          But here I am, barely giving her attention...and it baffled her. After a while I noticed her physically getting aggitated by it. I'd drip feed her attention. I wholy expected her to eventually tell me to fuck off, but ut became apparent in how she was now going out of her way by that point for my acknowledgement.

          Long story short, I fucked her cross eyed 2 months ago (when I initially wrote the FR), and I've been spinning that plate ever since. I don't even particularly like her personality, but she has a hot body, gorgeous face and likes black cock. Not gonna turn it down when she's throwin it at me.

          [–]jab1023 0 points1 point  (6 children)

          Meanwhile, I tried the same thing and the girl just got with some dude at our work that has the basic bro haircut and facial hair combo.

          And has made sure to rub it in my face. Glad it worked for someone, though!

          [–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Yeesh is that look popular and attractive?

          [–]jab1023 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Only if you're every third man from age 25-35.

          [–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Lol I suppose that's a yes...

          [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          It's not fool-proof sadly. You're either going to sink or swim doing it. Plus if she's into dudes with that kind of style, she's a superficial bitch. You are better off not soiling your manhood with her corrupted secretions.

          [–]jab1023 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          He looks like the type of dude who would wear a fedora and hate everything cool just to be different.

          [–]Oz70NYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The worst kind of pretentious asshole you can get. Beta to the bone.

          [–]Katavasis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Haha,it's so funny,because i think all of us,pre-RP had simillar experiences and now everyone is remembering them!

          [–]mksu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I bet his wife watched this and immediately jumped his bones

          [–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          This is just a great example of women and their emotional memories. Estrogen doesn't only create feelz it also enhances memory retention. Women remember allot more vividly than guys do. The extreme cases are the senile old man and the razor sharp old lady. But it holds true for all ages.

          You will be surprised how much stuff bitches remember about their time with you while you seemingly have forgotten most of it. They put on a nice show that they don't care. But I've seen it plenty of times, girls I hardly remember just couldn't close the book on me.

          They seemed to remember all these times we 'shared' and all I could recollect was that it was a couple of months of average time spend together. It must suck to be forgotten so completely by everyone you ever felt for. Being just a footnote in the great tapestry of a mans life. Women truly are the unfortunate sex.

          [–]gdog799 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Any one else want to know what video game or something he put on?

          [–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          “You wouldn’t talk,” she told Fallon then. “You wouldn’t say anything, and then you put a video game on or something … and so after about an hour and a half, I thought... ‘Maybe he’s gay.’ ”

          Playing video games when you could be smashing IS pretty gay. Lol

          Let's not forget this is alpha fucks beta bucks strategy by Kidman. Old and losing value she now might consider Fallon. Further, she is the aggressive / chasing one now. 10/20 years ago she would not have uttered a word of chase to a man. Funny, how the dynamic flips. Finally, her joking with him is also mostly about validation and sustaining beta bucks orbit. If he changed tack and tried to smash she might just respond "oh but we're friends and I was just joking." Lol

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            [–]fcb98292 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I would have jumped on that train. But only first class was available and I didn't have the coin.

            [–]Horus_Krishna_2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            she wanted an alpha male and jimmy did seem like one, rich, worked hard on snl at the time, why did he think he wouldn't have a chance, shorter than her, not typical leading man good looks? still gotta make that move to see, like she says

            [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            So damn true. My friends were trying to set me up with a girl once. I wasn't even interested. Little did I know that they built up her expectations and said nothing to me. She was obviously pissed off and being a bitch after awhile. It didn't take me long to figure out she wanted the dick and I wasn't really paying attention to her when she thought I was coming to dinner with them to take it.

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