The Alpha Pass (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by ReddittFeist

Men are aware of the "Pussy Pass" that women get.

What I'd like to talk about today is the "Alpha Pass."

Yes, blue pill betas (and red pill wannabees who are KJing at being alpha) often have no idea that this exists, but it's very real.

What reminded me of it was reading this article by a very self-aware woman published in one of the few papers that would not censor such thoughts, the UK's Telegraph.


She rambles on about various examples, of bad behavior, and even worse punitive fines. But then she says something remarkable:

"Men who are funny and charismatic and easy with women can get away with almost anything. One of my favourite colleagues has a habit of waggling his eyebrows suggestively at me across the room, while his hands describe an hourglass shape in the air. I find it very cheering. From a less charming man, such behaviour would be horrid - perhaps even actionable."

"Sexual harassment is a crime committed by beta-males who think they can get away with alpha behaviour."

Let that sink in for a minute.

A woman committed the politically incorrect thought crime of discussing the Alpha Pass in a mainstream media publication.

Then she twists the shiv in the beta males' collective stomachs:

"But that is a distinction too delicate for the blunt instrument of the law. How do you explain to a judge why one man's comedy is another man's bone-chilling lechery? And can we really expect the beta-males themselves to understand the difference?"

Bottom line, actions that would get a beta slapped, or reported to HR, or even the cops called, is welcomed when an Alpha is gracing a woman (providing tingly feellings) with the same attention.

A lot of guys are going to be pissed off at this. But she says it herself: A lot of guys are incapable of understanding real Alpha behavior, let alone incorporate it into their being. They're internal betas. Women recognize this. And while they're willing to socialize, befriend and behave civily around these betas, they're revolted if the beta brings up anything sexual.

Update: This is for the guys who are getting on here and demonstrating that they don't "get" Alpha by talking about good looks and Alpha as being the same thing. You're exactly the kind of beta who can't "understand the difference" that Jemima Lewis was talking about in her article.

Maybe this meme poster will help you out.


[–]lamentationsoftheir 222 points223 points  (14 children)

Fantastic point, OP.

"Sexual harassment is a crime committed by beta-males who think they can get away with alpha behaviour."

Could not agree more, this 100% lines up with my lived experiences.

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[–]keyboardWorrier 30 points30 points [recovered]

This is so true. We have this entire section of the legal system that women can optionally invoke depending on their mood. People lose their jobs over 'feelings'.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is 2016 year of the outrage in a nutshell.

women's feeling = Above the law

[–]vertilius 21 points21 points [recovered]

Wow you're right. Even from a legal perspective only beta males are punished and alphas get the pussy pass.

[–]p3n1x 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Alphas get the Alpha Pass. A Pussy pass is for those with a pussy.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (3 children)

Would she regret sleeping with you if you were Brad Pitt?


[–]newgrounds 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Well, we should aim for a younger example these days. Maybe a Hemsworth.

[–]_Danksy 19 points20 points  (0 children)

After reading this I feel like, after over a year of red pillery, I JUST achieved some greater understanding of the universe that I could never even imagine comprehending.

Fuck. I picked a wrong time to quit alcohol.

[–]infiniteslinky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This happened to me in high-school. A month or 2 after the fact, some bitch decided I sexually harassed her. A month or 2 later, and decided to take it to administration. I got suspended. There was nothing I could say or do. Cunt. I learned to avoid those political uppity drama girls.

[–]blackedoutfast 415 points416 points  (29 children)

A great man once said: "When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything." And he was absolutely correct. You can get away with anything, and they love you for it.

And for the guys who have never experienced the Alpha Pass, the guys who worry about manspreading and the guys who get creep-shamed for making direct eye contact: this isn't some kind of metaphor. You can literally grab women by the pussy and there are no consequences. They just squeal with delight.

[–]Marcus1138 113 points114 points  (18 children)

Yep. People are pissed off about that comment not because it's harassment, but because it reveals an uncomfortable truth. Uncomfortable to men who aren't at Trump's level, and uncomfortable to women who don't want men to know about SMV.

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 65 points66 points  (11 children)

And uncomfortable to fat, miserable feminists who would never get grabbed by the pussy from a man they desired, because "fat phobia".

[–]StupidButSerious 21 points22 points  (7 children)

There is a reason why only visually disgusting women are "feminists", girls who take care of themselves have it all and don't need to complain to get their way.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (6 children)

Yup. Being an attractive girl is playing life on easy mode. An attractive girl can literally go though life and never work if she plays her cards right.

[–]reecewagner 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I always remember that Tosh quote: "Being an ugly woman is like being a man - you're gonna have to work for it."

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 19 points20 points  (1 child)

She can do anything. Grab 'em by the dick, anything.

[–]Fartfacethrowaway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What's funny is that I have been grabbed by the dick by complete stranger women and nobody cares. A simple presidential candidate says he does it and everyone goes crazy

[–]Chubby_Bert 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yet it is amazing how many choose to let themselves go into inhumane shapes of pure Lard. Like most of them, especially over 30.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's like, "if I can't get/be the best, like I used to...then fuck it"

[–]sweeptheleg55 32 points33 points  (3 children)

I think it's just uncomfortable for women to admit they are attracted to shitheads because they were evolutionarily screwed into desiring the guy that will kill your neighbors for food when your babes are starved. 1 million years of that makes women completly screwed emotionally. They think they want a nice guy. But they don't. They'll settle for him at 35. Pathetic creatures the vast majority. They're mantra is to embrace this stupid feeling. fuck through their 20s and make no attempt at bonding with a non alpha. Then at 30 it turns around. They realize they were dumb but they still didn't understand it. They start to give nice guys a shot. And probably learn to lot him in a way. But by 35 our personalities are set. And have a woman that doesn't know what real love is and a man that doesn't know how to be a man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And by that time all of the betas they want have turned to complete supplicating losers from the years of women completely ignoring them for the change of a 10 minute fuck from an alpha.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I once described how I grabbed a girl's ass the first time we met--after telling her I was going to do it as I went in for the hug-- and we went on to be FWB for a time. Lots of bitches here calling me out saying it didn't happen. There is a vast world of difference between how betas and alphas get treated in this world.

[–]jazerac 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I remember reading that. Do you have a link to that post? it was fantastic

[–]beginner_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Grab ’em by the pussy and they will elect you as President.

Grab ’em by the pussy sounds like something we will see on a T-Shirt.

[–]marplaneit 21 points22 points  (1 child)

When I was in highschool any stupid thing done by me was seen as creepy casi I was a beta playing 16hours a day of computer.

The other day I went to a female friend grab her a lovehandle "Start telling your body to better storage this fat on your boobs" while staring at her bra. She giggled like a 8yo and told me "you are such a jerk, but deep inside I know you love ".

Hahaha "maybe I do " patt her on the head and kept walking.

This behavior 3 years, would have land me straight into jail.

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Start telling your body it would be better to store this fat on your boobs"

Bwaahaha. Love it. I'm gonna use this one!

[–]EntropyAnimals 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And then there's technology facilitating delusion. The limitations of DNA are charming.

[–]bwoodski 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hate donald trump, but this just made my day. Coincidentally, today I also used that sound byte to convey to a friend what an alpha is

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (37 children)

So now we're going to get women openly discussing alpha-passes, emasculation and mistreatment of unwanted males (to the point of putting them in place by a social face-slap)? Gee, I wonder what will bluepills do. I'd say nothing.

Feminist indoctrination is working, now we're having bluepill bluepills. But this will, in the end, lead to another power shift.

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (34 children)

Then women wonder why there are so many men who are against the idea of marriage. The article validates that Trump was right with his whole "grab them by the pussy" comment.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (7 children)

I had a first date this summer where I pretty much grabbed her by the pussy on a park bench. Had a couple drinks. Went for a walk, we kissed and I said fuck it. Sent my hand right up her dress.

Actually did the same thing the next week on a first date, but she was on her period so it didn't go anywhere (least not that night)

[–]Barvazon 15 points16 points  (3 children)

They tend to lie about that, do heads up

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No, lasted 4 months.. Pretty much that same Friday every month

[–]SadNotAngry 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wouldn't that be an implied 'no' though?

Disclaimer: I'm not even going to pretend I'm not a beta, I'm just here to learn.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you have to just push the boundary a little to really see. Same with "I have a boyfriend". Sometimes they do, sometimes it just means "I'm not ready to fuck you... YET"

[–]Buchloe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that something she told you, or did you find out when you grabbed the bloody maxi pad?

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 63 points64 points  (25 children)

Trump is a Natural Alpha. He's never been beta, so he doesn't know the reality betas experience, where if you grab a woman's pussy the cops get called.

What was most significant in what Trump said was this: "You can do anything"

For Alpha Male Trump, that's his reality.

Trump doesn't live in the beta world where one can't do everything with women.

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (10 children)

He also said that they let you do it

The funny thing is how many people were pissed about the comment, yet have experience similar things from women. On a night out towards the end of the night, a woman came up to me and just grabbed my dick and smile. She was attractive and we kissed, but unfortunately, not much happened after.

Another woman who was throwing shit test at me through the night just grabs my dick, without my permission. I removed my hand, but she acted like she was entitled to grabbing it. It was crazy. We made out and stuff, but apparently, "I wasn't big enough for her."

[–]Endorsed Contributorcholomite 44 points45 points  (2 children)

The way the media tried to spin his statements as "Trump admits to sexual assault" was hilarious. He very obviously said they "let him do it". When Anderson Cooper tried to corner him about his admitted "sexual assault" during the debate all I could do was laugh.

I've been on both sides of the alpha pass, as I'm sure a lot if us have. When women view you as alpha, they get excited and turned on when you push the boundries.

[–]saibot83 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yup, hit it off like a house on fire with this chick at work (won't EVER go there again). I pushed all the boundaries I could and she fucking ate it up. I could say the lewdest most suggestive stuff to her face and she just laughed and went "Oh, you..." with a lingering smile on her lips. We talked on the phone for hours. She often said her boyfriend was jealous of me (she delighted in that). Along the way I messed up and displayed some beta tendencies (was severely blue pill in the past) she picked up on.

Then when she'd started to progressively get annoyed/repulsed by me I really messed up by getting drunk at a party and stupidly made a crude move on her. Oh boy, she HATED me after that. Everything I said was awful, reprehensible. I was a pig, a sexist, a racist, etc, etc, etc. All the things she previously loved she now hated and I could do no right. Had I not gone beta mushy feely on her I'm convinced I could've fucked her silly eventually.

[–]JackGetsIt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was a pig, a sexist, a racist, etc, etc, etc. All the things she previously loved she now hated and I could do no right

I think this is a subtly that's missed in this thread. Women can switch for no reason and beta shame you at any point. Sometimes it has nothing to do with you. We've given women way to many soft power tools and they are using them relentlessly.

[–]SickFetish 2 points3 points  (6 children)

"I wasn't big enough" Sounds like a shit test to me.

Agree and amplify response: Right, I bet I couldn't even reach your G spot and have you shaking within the hour. Why I bet I couldn't even make your fucking toes curl from all the pleasure you'd get from me tearing that pussy up.

[–]Faghomo 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Sounds too try-hard, I'd go with something shorter.

[–]failingtheturingtest 20 points21 points  (0 children)

"I have no doubt, I bet I could hear the ocean in that thing"

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Sounds too try-hard, I'd go with something shorter.

I see what you did there. Very puny.

Most excellent username btw.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Friend of mine had the best response for a girl who said that... "good, then it won't hurt when I fuck you in the ass".

[–]coffee_34 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Question, can you become alpha if you were not born naturally alpha?

[–]keyboardWorrier 3 points3 points [recovered]

I've been wondering about this ever since I discovered The Red Pill.

TRP is basically a step-by-step guide to turning yourself into a convincing simulation of an alpha. Can anyone who has been a beta for much of their adult life transform themselves into a true alpha? Personally I doubt it, but they can take on many of the behaviours of an alpha and achieve similar levels of success.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

what is alpha besides a mindset that you can get what you want and you don't let it phase you if you don't? Unlike looks which work on a scale, the alpha mentality is one which you can choose to turn on and be deliberate about until it becomes natural. Does it take work to recondition your beta behaviors? of course but not impossible. we were all "natural" alphas when we were children until it was conditioned out of you by being told how to be a "good" boy.

[–]brettfromtibet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Long time beta, first time caller. You can learn become a lot more alpha-like to the point that it makes a perceptible difference in how women treat you. I have taken the red pill and hit the gym for about a year now, and in that time I've approached well over 100 girls. From doing this you gain confidence, experience and an abundance mentality. A quite a lot of it is non-verbal - a strong posture, a relaxed gait, a slow and non-reactive style of speech, eye contact.

But yes it can be practiced, learned and genuinely integrated into who you are... as long as you walk the walk (lift, do masculine things)

[–]SetConsumes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it's possible but difficult. The hardest part being letting go of old beliefs and adopting new beliefs that drive an alpha's mindset and perspective. Which is why it's the red pill, it's a different worldview and perspective compared to your prior indoctrination.

[–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one is born alpha. You may be born higher or lower testosterone, but that is it.

Alpha is a set of traits and a mindset. Embody them, and you will be judged as alpha.

[–]Hoops_Junkie2 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Trump has many alpha qualities but I can't consider him a true Alpha. The dude is a big baby.

[–]omega_dawg93 5 points6 points  (3 children)

this is true.

the emotional rants & constant bickering with anyone who criticizes him is not only annoying but highly unprofessional & "un-presidential."

cool & calm under pressure describes the current president but he's hated now so I'll let this topic rest.

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm ... come back on here after you've built up a net worth of $3.7 billion, built some of the most impressive buildings in the world and had a bunch of supermodels in your bedroom. Oh, and also faced down a pair of the most vicious criminal politicians in American history, with a string of political murders associated with their names, and won.

Then tell us you don't consider him to be a true Alpha.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The article was dated 2004.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't care for the BP men of the world but we need them on board for political reasons.

[–]12isLimited 68 points69 points  (13 children)

I have said so many cringeworthy shit and still got women, i was openly sexist, still got women, i made nasty remarks, still got women, you can even be a fucking serial killer and still get women, all you need to have is charm. It's almost like the women forget who you are or something, they just ignore that part of you, it's fascinating

[–][deleted] 69 points70 points  (7 children)

I once said "single mom's are the worst moms" to a single mom

Still fucked the single mom

[–]Fryguy48 11 points12 points  (3 children)

It is ridiculous because when said to a Beta they flip their shit. It's amazing really.

[–]1swaglordobama 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It's communication. Majority of it is nonverbal. Doesn't matter what you say, it matters how you say it and your vibe. Has nothing to do with being alpha or beta. Stop thinking in binaries.

[–]Fryguy48 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Than what's the difference of being brainwashed by the feminist propaganda and not? It does matter how and what you say. People don't like to hear particular things it's true.

[–]12isLimited 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And that's what i'm talking about, good shit

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like stand-up comedy. When someone tells the truth during a stand-up, everyone agrees and laughs.

[–]coffee_34 6 points7 points  (2 children)

you can be a fucking serial killer and still get women

Dexter is the perfect example. Girls love Dexter.

Imagine if Dexter was a fat, gross, beta loser. The show would have a whole different response.

[–]12isLimited 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Mate go check Richard ramirez, ted bundy, real serial killer who had groupies trying to fuck em

[–]lqtys 137 points138 points  (18 children)

Feminism is not a war against men, is a war against beta men. The beta men the same feminism has created.

It's the same thing that each individual woman makes with their relationships. They will transform their boyfriends/husbands into beta, and start arguing and starting battles over any little thing, a war against their now beta bfs/husbands.

Feminism is just female nature but in colective form.

[–]drty_pr 50 points51 points  (7 children)

Women have no clue they are doing this to their husband. It's almost completely on a subconscious level. They often wonder why they don't wanna fuck their man anymore as well.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

They tend to blame it on socialization too rather than female nature itself.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Isn't it just a natural consequence of spending so much time with the same woman? Of course she's going to rub off.

[–]SickFetish 18 points19 points  (3 children)

What? dude no, you think Hugh Heff acted like a fucking pussy? Fuck no, Hugh swam in the pussy and the water was FINE.

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[–]SickFetish 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I didn't know that. I'm sure you can agree most beta's are going to stay betas without seeking some form of enlightenment for why they end up in these powerless situations.

[–]fenghsui 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That is the definition of beta. Red pill is all, and only, about facing the scary truth.

[–]SetConsumes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. I can literally spend a week straight with my SO and she'll want more and be all over my dick throughout the time.

BUT, if I fail her tests at any point the tests will escalate further and further till I win.

Funny really how much this shit is like clockwork. Basically as long as I keep her well fucked she doesn't care what I or we do much at all.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

I don't think you're getting enough credit for how profound that actually is.

[–]fruguy 6 points7 points  (2 children)

He's not the first person to essentially say feminism is a shit test.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

But even Alphas get shit tested.

[–]CombatPhilosopher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a post recently about how shit tests are just women's way of assessing if you are worth the investment. Great perspective, that if you are not being shit tested, you aren't a viable player at the moment.

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I feel like it's more a war against themselves and their poor life choices.

It's societies/genetics fault that I ate to much for four years straight and got fat. It's their fault that I spent 500k on my gender studies degree that didn't get me any jobs. It's their fault that I got a kid at 16 from having unprotected sex while being drunk at a party. It's their fault that I don't do anything productive and suffer the consequences.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's just typical thinking in someone with a child-like mentality.

[–]Areu4realm8 0 points1 point  (1 child)

beta men are not created by feminism.they always existed.a real man, no matter how much cultural pressure gets, never becomes beta. but this is a hurtful truth that many men here dont want to admitt to themselves. they blamse society for their betaness.

[–]lqtys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replace 'men' with 'children' and you'll see what I meant.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.

Beyond that, much like with food, it's in the presentation. Personally, I get away with murder because I know how to turn a phrase. It's a learnable skill.

[–]int3rnetz 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Can you give some examples? Where would you "learn"?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I've had > 3 decades of practice.

Game every girl you meet, even ones you don't want to fuck. Your brain is, in this instance, a muscle. Develop it. Watch good comedy and think about what makes it work. I grew up on both British and borsht belt humor. Then write comedy. Once you can do that, you'll have it nailed.

[–]int3rnetz 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You have 3 decades of practice and the only thing you can tell me is game every girl and write comedy?

[–]SetConsumes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read his submissions if you want more depth. But his two tips are what will make you great, not reading.

[–]SirByron 22 points23 points  (0 children)

"I grabbed America by the pussy and she said "Yes!" - Donald Trump

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 10 points11 points  (5 children)

One of the most instructive moments of my life--

16 years ago (I was 24), Blue Pilled as could be, had oneitis for this one girl, thought we were going to eventually end up together, was just a matter of time, meanwhile I continued to orbit, and orbit (for months, and months)...

Of course my best guy friend rolled in at one point, nailed her after a few days, and rolled back out (returned to his fiancee back home) a few weeks later.

I'll never forget though, at one point he literally swept her off her feet and made some crack like (responding to something she said): "Oh yeah?? That's just what a SLUT like you would do...!!" She giggled, she loved it.

Days later the same girl (the one I had oneitis for) and I were talking, joking, laughing, and I said almost EXACTLY the same thing my friend had said just a little while before, something to the effect of "Oh yeah, that's just what a SLUT would say...!!" etc.

She immediately hit me with "HOW DARE YOU, DON'T YOU EVER SAY THAT TO ME EVER AGAIN." I was floored--hadn't I just said the exact same thing someone else had already said...?? (And in the exact same manner, tone of voice etc?)

Lesson learned: it's all about the context, the art is defined by the frame. In this case, it's all about who, exactly, is doing the action, giving the speech etc.

Alpha man gets away with it, Beta man does not.

EDIT: Tyler Durden (of RSD) actually has a great video about this--


In the vid his beta buddy chats up a girl, makes some comments re: how hot her legs are etc, she shuts him down with "How rude!! That's harassment!!", and then Tyler pops into the set, gets the kino in, gets her laughing (establishes the frame), and then says the exact same thing the beta guy said and she's like "Tee hee hee you're so cute!!" Best part is he actually calls her out on it, definite must see viewing.

[–]JackGetsIt 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Lesson learned: it's all about the context, the art is defined by the frame. In this case, it's all about who, exactly, is doing the action, giving the speech etc.

Once you learn this lesson and learn it well women are A LOT more manageable and your redpill anger phase starts to fade. Unfortunately men aren't given the tools to understand this subtext as they grow up. Their caught in a cacophony of misinformation about women from day one.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Definitely helps with the anger phase, quite a bit in fact. Takes the onus off of women and puts it back on you, like "The words don't matter, it's all about the guy who says them, what kind of guy he is. You need to BECOME the guy who can say whatever he wants, it's on you to BE THAT GUY." Then it all starts falling into place.

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Tyler Durden (of RSD) actually has a great video about this

Yes, Thanks for posting this @IGYSTA

This video was groundbreaking in that it was the first real-time recording of a beta getting verbally abused by a chick for trying something Alpha.

Also, as far as I can tell, TD also invented the term "beta male shaming" to describe what women do to whip betas back into line.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 2 points3 points  (1 child)

First time I saw this vid I was like Damn, if only I'd been shown this when I was 12, could have skipped a few grades (and heartbreaks) in the School of Women and Life.

Some guys are lucky and pick this up from a mentor early on, a cool older brother who shows them what's up etc. Never had that but thank God for the Internet, and the Red Pill sub which turned out to be the cool older brother I always needed but never had.

[–]AvengerSentinel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shit, for some people, TRP is both the cool older brother AND father they never had.

[–]FrgElder 29 points29 points [recovered]

"Sexual harassment is a crime committed by beta-males who think they can get away with alpha behaviour."

It's true. I've heard girls cry harassment and feel uneasy because guys try to talk to them. I've seen girls call a guy a creep because he "stared at her weirdly" even though all he was doing was minding his business and sitting in the corner of a room sulking.

Within minutes of meeting women I've grabbed their tits, asses, and even grabbed them right by the pussy. I've done this from a buyer's mindset and acted like I was jokingly "just checking the goods". What were the reactions? Laughs, smiles, a slap on the shoulder, and then "fuck me" eyes. I'm not as brazen in the work environment, but I do get away with more suggestive behavior that other less attractive guys would get chastised for.

This topic can be illustrated perfectly in the SNL sexual harassment skit that Tom Brady was in. Basically if you look like Tom Brady, you can get away with anything with women and all you'll be met with is laughs/smiles and a "oh you're so funny".

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (27 children)

Can confirm was talking to wife about roids I was about to buy she said I won't stay if you buy them their dangerous yada yada. Bought them anyway been making my juice gains she sees me do them before the gym and just says wow their really helping you while fondling me. Same thing with buying guns and other shit. It's all smoke and mirrors think of it as a test do something she doesn't agree with if she accepts it begrudgingly or changes her mind when you do it she views you as alpha. If she leaves because of it she views you as beta and did you a favor by showing it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (25 children)

Just curious, I don't plan on roids anytime soon, but I'm currently 25 and maybe in 15 years, might consider not steroids, because that stuff scares me, but a testosterone booster of sorts.

How much do steroids cost and do you notice any bad side effects? If I was to do them, I wouldn't be taking crazy huge doses. Just enough to keep testosterone levels high.

[–]lodro 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The most common steroid people use is just testosterone in an excessively high dose.

Testosterone boosters do not actually exist, it is all bullshit to separate retards from money.

Reddit has a decent steroids sub or two where you can answer those questions for yourself, and a TRT sub that's sort of ok.

In short: high testosterone is pretty easy to manage but also easy to fuck up. The kind of guys that are attracted to it and risk tolerant enough to do it are, as a group, not the brightest or most thoughtful bunch. So a lot of them have quite bad side effects and most of them have minor to moderate sides. Mostly gynecomastia, or at least that's the most talked about.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Ok, that makes sense. I wouldn't take the testosterone in excessive high levels. It would be something I take when I'm older and my body doesn't produce as much testosterone as it does now, at 25.

Luckily, I never bought testosterone boosters and probably won't ever, since I have heard not just from you, but other places that they are scams.

[–]lodro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ah yeah. TRT is very easy to do and very safe. You still have to keep estrogen balancing / blocking drugs on hand but the dose required (if any) is very low.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's good to hear. That's probably what I will do just to keep testosterone levels around what they are currently (25 years old), when I'm in my 40s.

Just looking to stay in good shape and look good. Not looking to take testosterone and get crazy big. I'm pretty strong as it is and have enough size. Currently 5'9" and about 177 lbs and can bench more than 315 lbs. did 315 for 2 reps with no assistance recently.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (15 children)

Depends on what you do test is 30-40 for 10ml a vial lasts 1-3 weeks depending on your level. Most roids don't cost more then 40 bucks tren e being an exception and equipose being about 60-80 depending on how many mg. For a beginer stick to test tbh I'm your age and it doesn't mean shit when you cycle off because your test is going down slowly rn anyways have a pct ready just incase. I blast and cruise doing roids year round at 25 my t level is 3047 i gained 14 pounds in my first cycle

[–]nicksnice 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Lmao like the Tom Brady SNL skit. 1. Be attractive. 2. Don't be unattractive.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 31 points32 points  (32 children)

Funny, yet sad. When women feel comfortable in dropping their facades and speaking directly about 'the game', it means the culture is fuuucked.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (30 children)

I thought you wanted women to be more honest?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 9 points10 points  (29 children)

I'm saying that if women do this, it means the culture is systemically supporting the expression of their worst attributes. The population is overflooding with beta males and the government is becoming tyrannical (basing law off female opinion, not desire, backed by the betas that whiteknight for them)

[–]coffee_34 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It's funny that the betas white-knight for the laws that are designed to keep them down.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

funny or ingenious and scary.

[–]coffee_34 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's funny to me :)

Not ingenious, don't give those bitches credit

Not scary, it's only scary to betas.

It's funny because I benefit from it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (25 children)

We are half the world's population. If you men can fuck girls without marrying them nowadays (which is alright), we will take our freedom of sexual expression too. I don't see why we should suppress our nature for your interest.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 1 point2 points  (15 children)

It's not "our" interest, it was in the best interests of society. Soft-harem models don't allow the propagation of large societies. Symmetrical pairing of partners is the reason we have civilisation as we know it.

That's not TRP's primary concern, however. Society is already decaying. Our goal is to secure what's in our best interest -- sluts for fucking, and girls with self-respect for relationships.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (14 children)

What TRP wants can only exist in our actual society, though. The hookup culture certainly did not exist in the past. Also, since you are branching out into what is good for society, it is common knowledge even in TRP that most people in our society do eventually have kids. How many? One or two rather than five or six, true, and that is not a problem since in our globalised world we have immigration to fill in the gaps. We also do not have the resources to support huge amounts of children to first-world levels, which is another reason why a first-world lifestyle is expensive: it is simply not feasible to allow people to have too many children.

I might be wrong about this, of course, but my distinct impression is that your comments have a racial, anti-multiculturalism connotation: you are complaining because nowadays women explore their sexuality before settling down and having only one or two kids, correct? You think this is bad for society because Westerners are having less kids, and immigrants are not a good alternative to higher birthrates, correct? If so, my impression is probably right.

P.S. High birthrates were useful in the Middle Ages because only one or two children out of seven would survive to adulthood in a world without blood tests, vaccinations and antibiotics. The past was not an ideal society. It was us trying to figure out how to set up our current, technologically advanced society.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (8 children)

we will take our freedom of sexual expression too

When I said "expression of their worst attributes", I was not eluding to this. Your 'freedom of sexual expression' is not something I oppose. We here encourage it and thank you. This article however is a symptom of a much bigger problem...

Women naturally practice lies, deceit, shit tests, whine and complain. That to doesn't really bother me, I can see right through it and you don't scare me and I don't need you for survival. What's fucking everything up are betas and the dark triads who farm them who don't shut women down the second they do this nonsense, don't let other men pass the shit tests, then allow you females to codify your nonsense into laws that are designed to restrain men and give you pussy passes. Men fucking over other men using women as their weapon.

To the point: This article, "Alpha Pass" is a symptom of this phenomenon. Women only feel comfortable being overt about their tactics and mentality when a system like the one I described is in place.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

The laws are actually designed to protect women from sexual assault. Remember: one woman's alpha is another woman's beta (with some extreme exceptions). This means that what is taken as an Alpha compliment by a woman is perceived as horrifying and violating by another. An Alpha takes a huge, HUGE risk when he 'grabs a woman by the pussy' because he can never really know how she will react.

I understand that your post is written from a male perspective so I will give you a slight pass for this, but you seem to entirely ignore how violating it can feel to a woman to be sexually harassed by a man she finds undesirable and within a work environment. That is what the laws are for. There is not Alpha conspiracy to hold 'beta' men down, because they are kept down naturally by the fact that women do not sleep with them.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (6 children)

You give me a pass? Lol.

but you seem to entirely ignore how violating it can feel to a woman to be sexually harassed by a man she finds undesirable and within a work environment.

And this is why women shouldn't work in most jobs. A man gets sexual harassment, stress, corrected, etc and it's annoying. If it happens to a woman, it's violating, threatening, and overwhelming. Everywhere women try to insert themselves (ie the work place) they need all sorts of extra mechanisms, protections, and special accusatory powers to function. You, the other 50%, are mental and physical inferiors. It is also not our job to go out of our way to help you function. You cannot have equal rights AND special priveledges, abilities, and protections just for having a vagina. If you wanna work with men and do man shit, you need to step up, grow a thicker skin, and stop complaining.

A lot of it is the betas fault too. Women only do what men allow them to do, and betas (the majority of men) let you do anything. Betas as judges and jurors and managers being the specific ones at fault that enable all the firings and law suits to take place, making corporations get all PC and female virtue signaling.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Men do not get any sexual harassment unless their boss is a gay asshole who abuses them. The reason why these 'special laws' exist is because men do not behave around women.

By the way, it is pretty sad that this whole sub and most male spaces are dedicated to winning the approval of what are supposedly your 'physical and intellectual inferiors' lol.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Men do get sexual harassment. Its happened to me and I told them to stop, rejected them nicely, or ignored it until they took a hint. I didnt throw a fit or start awareness programs because not only would I not be taken seriously, you wouldnt be punished. I dont need special laws or consideration to handle it. You're doing what blacks and jews tend to do, monopolizing 'victimhood' for yourselves so that you get special treatment and abilities exclusive to yourself. Its a form of power by convincing someone else to self-handicap via guilt. Women have it easy and thus must exaggerate existing issues or conjure bullshit problems to retain the victimhood power. It's all you got and you'll fight tooth and nail to retain it.

We want sexual approval ==> get inside you. We dont want your strength, you dont have any. We dont want your advice, you're ignorant via coddling and designed to give bullshit answers to test men. We dont want your leadership, you cant lead. We dont want to work with you in skilled labor, you require too many accomodations and arent as productive (most women). We dont want your friendship, you make for terrible friends and cant exist when a sexual dynamic is present.

We want the pussy. That takes some convincing. Here at TRP we discuss how to do that for the least amount time, money, commitment, and energy possible.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Good for you if you can get the pussy. Still, millions of women will not stop entering working spaces and will not tolerate harassment.

[–]SetConsumes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See what I mean? Doesn't actually give a fuck about the other(your) view. Her name is spot on.

[–]fenghsui 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seduction is harassment that the seducee appreciates. - Zizek.

Why are rapists so disgusting to our political morality? They take what should be taken without 'getting it' and thus having no right to do so.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is a common and well known fact that attractive people have an easier life, accept it and move on.

This falls under the attractive people rule. Take comfort in the fact that if you are an ugly wet fish with no charisma that sure the women you want do not want you but neither do the fat ones, there is always a silver lining chaps.

There is a scene in inglorious basterds where a rat is compared to a squirrel, you don't know why the rat repulses you, all you know is that it does. Same thing here, some guys by there looks, and or behaviour repulse women, who knows why. Some can modify their behaviour & some they will always be the rat.

It is unfair, sure but if life was fair not a single organism could survive.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

The most FRUSTRATING part is that some women see you as an ALPHA GOD while others don't.

I knew a really sexy 9/10 black girl who I knew liked me. I saw her in the lunchroom and told her to come with me. I took her in the staircase, whipped my dick out and she got naked and started sucking right away.

However, a 6/10 asian girl called me a "creep" after I made a sexual joke. She then proceeded to tell everyone I was a creep. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is a gray area for EVERYONE. The best advice is learn to read HER SIGNS. She is the GATEKEEPER after all:

EYE CONTACT (she will stare but turn away once you look. Shes still looking at you but using her periferal vision)

LIP BITING (finger biting, pen biting, bottle biting, straw biting or sucking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdCA-7Z80j0

HAIR TOUCHING (sometimes she will touch her breasts and pussy as well)

ALPHA GOD Status: STUTTERING SPEECH BLUSHING SHAKING HANDS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Later I found out the black girl liked me because I was smart and white. Women like random shit about you- DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED if you aren't tall etc.

Patrice O'neal- fat ass motherfucker got a sexy ass girl and he always joked about how she does all this crazy sexual shit and threesomes etc. He joked about how he is amazed that she liked him for his "mind". She stayed with him for 10 yrs until his death despite the fact that he told her he wont get married or have kids!

[–]Purecorrupt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if a girl in public stares at you and doesn't look away is that a higher form of interest. Like a "come open me RIGHT now".

I've had this happen twice in the past month or so. The first time was at a bar and she saw me dancing and she grabbed my hand after I walked near her to dance. I failed after that, but that's another story.

Black Friday shopping I think a girl was staring at me, but I was walking the opposite direction. I gave her eye contact then checked to see if she was looking at me and then she was still staring at me - presumably. I fucked up and kept walking and she started walking the other way after I turned away again. I kicked myself later, but meh.

Tl;dr - I suck when girls stare at me. It's been a new foreign phenomena.

[–]tedcase 6 points7 points  (0 children)

""Sexual harassment is a crime committed by beta-males who think they can get away with alpha behaviour."

This is one of those obvious truths that everyone subconciously just knows to be a fact, but is rarely put into writing.

[–]blackchadthundercock 10 points10 points [recovered]

But she says it herself: A lot of guys are incapable of understanding real Alpha behavior

I wouldn't have it any other way. The world needs betas to make my life easier with women.

[–]1lurkingtacopiller 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I love explaining this to women who at first try to deny it. One example:

Me: "Good looking guys can do whatever they want, ugly dudes cant. If an ugly guy walked up and slapped your ass you'd slap him back and curse him out. If a good looking guy did the same you'd just giggle and flirt."

Her: "no I wouldnt, that's still gross."

Me: "so if Brad Pitt did that you'd slap him in the face?"

Her, after a quick thought: "OK no Brad Pitt can do anything he wants to me"

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 10 points11 points  (8 children)

a distinction too delicate for the blunt instrument of the law. How do you explain to a judge why one man's comedy is another man's bone-chilling lechery?

Well one way to explain it might be the observation that if it's ok for one man to do it, it shouldn't be a crime when another does so.

Theft doesn't depend on the perpetrator, because it's well defined in law. Sexual harassment needs the same rigorous application of definition, lest it all comes down to feelz.

[–]halfwhitehalfred 5 points6 points  (7 children)

theft does depend on the perpetrator, the taking of your stuff has to be deemed undesired by you (a stranger taking your stuff is not the same as your mom, you might even think it's for the better she took it) Eating is good, shoving food down one's throat is torture. An action being desired or not makes the distinction between a crime and a non-crime. Why is it so hard to understand?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (6 children)

the taking of your stuff has to be deemed undesired by you

Theft is taking without consent. The police would establish consent to take, rather than the attractiveness of the perpetrator.

Sexual assault/harassment should similarly be defined other than a woman's future arbitrary feelz and instead determined on the basis of the man's behaviour.

[–]halfwhitehalfred 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It's not the attractiveness, It's the desirableness. A gay woman would not desire sexual advances from a DiCaprio-like co-worker. The 'arbitrary feelz' that you are so eager to dismiss is what makes a crime a crime. Crimes are crimes because they make someone feel bad feelings. Do you know any crimes that raise no negative feelings in anyone? (determined on the basis of the man's behaviour-by this standard rape would not be a crime, the man was just having sex, right?)

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Crimes are crimes because they make someone feel bad feelings.

I see your point. However crimes are usually (except where women are concerned) defined by the actions of the perpetrator. Sure theft makes someone else feel bad, but it also has an absolute definition.

[–]halfwhitehalfred 0 points1 point  (3 children)

again, no. If an arsonist burns down your private house on private soil and afterwards you say 'it's cool' will the arsonist be persecuted? There are two kinds or crimes: offence prosecuted on complaint and offence prosecuted ex officio. The distinction will surely vary between countries but the point stands, often you have to decide if an action was unwanted in this particular circumstance. You prolly would not seek to put your elderly neighbor in jail who keeps wandering into your house, would you? How about a 16yo youth?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If an arsonist burns down your private house on private soil and afterwards you say 'it's cool' will the arsonist be persecuted?

Ah but.... as well as the personal offence, there is also an element of "was this person unresaonable". Prosecution relies on both, and it's rarely down to the attractiveness of the individual.

In the case of sexual harassment, we're moving to a model where female offence is the only element.

[–]halfwhitehalfred 0 points1 point  (1 child)

one more time, it's not the attractiveness. I'll explain with the sexes reversed so you can identify more. Imagine you're married with kids, about to have a promotion if things go well and then some newly hired ultra hot lady at the office gets grabby with you and says sexual things to you whenever you meet in the lunchroom. What would you do? Is it your problem that you're offended by this particular situation or is it her problem she caused it? 20 years ago your feelings about the same scenario would have been different, is that any reason why your feeling now should not count?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To take your example and relate it to the subject at hand:

High levels of intimacy require mutual consent, and this is indicated to both parties through specific (universally agreed) cues so that it can be defined as consensual, so that it is irrespective of opinion. Least controversially this is verbal.

Now the point is that whether or not this is a crime is irrespective of personal feelings. "Yes" was said, therefore there is no crime. If both parties say "yes", then we can look beyond their feelings of attraction or whatever to define if this was reasonable behaviour or not.

So "crime or no crime" is based on behaviour and cues rather than feelings. With me so far?

Now in the original office example... "funny vs actionable" is entirely based on her feelings. He isn't allowed to say "well, she laughed every time I did this, therefore she consented". Her responsibility in allowing or stopping proceedings based on clear clues (tiny shred of responsibility) is replaced with how she feels about things, based largely on her current mood and the man's attractiveness. There is no mutual consent, there is no "this was reasonable because she said yes", there is no "we were flirting together, and she was laughing, therefore I did nothing wrong". All power is handed to the female to be offended or not, and there is no way for the man to have any defence.

And to make it worse, her feelings can change later in time, and be "actionable" (her words) at any future time of her choosing. In the case of theft, rape or any other crime the man would have the reasonable excuse "it wasn't theft because she clearly gave it to me" and "it wasn't rape because she said yes".

But in the case of office "harassment", how is "she is attracted to me" any sort of defence? You see the difference?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

You don't even have to be a top-tier dude to get the alpha pass.. Just be reasonably attractive not a complete blue-pill bitch boy pushover. I'm 5'8".. I've got decent facial aesthetic (not super handsome chiseled jew line, but have been told I'm a good looking dude by hot chicks), I dress cool in a sort of hipster/rock/metalhead fashion, have tattoos, and am a little bit impulsive/risk taking. I have exhibited the alpha pass numerous times and in my beta days have dealt with being shamed for having a sex drive.

That being said, this dynamic is very fluid and changes depending on the person. If you're socially with-it, it comes naturally to gauge what kind of shit you can pull.

I would not really consider myself a "chad bro" although I have some elements of it (tattoos, DGAF lifestyle/mentality, risk taking behaviors, dress cool) but at the same time I have my own insecurities, have lost frame with girlfriends, been cheated on, and pussy beta moments too.

I've been working in restaurants since I was 15. I genuinely enjoy the work, though it's not something I could see myself doing career wise.. As some of you may know, lots of slutty chicks work in restaurants and when you're part of a kitchen crew, you'll probably wind up banging or at least drunkenly making out with some FOH piece of ass at some point.

There was one girl (HB7) in particular I worked with who totally had the hots for me (and a few other guys in the restaurant) but she was particularly fond of me. She would get excited when I'd grab her ass, or on one occasion when I grabbed her by the pussy. This girl smiles and loves the idea of being sexually objectified by me. We made out a few times and fucked in the middle of a field after drinking some wine together one night after work. She also has an LTR boyfriend, but the dude practically looks like a scrawny little boy. (Now you might say I'm a shitbag for this, but let's be real.. Everyone was in her BF's shoes at some point and when her BF wakes up to the game that is "serious relationships" he's going to be doing the same shit the second he exhibits gains and a more alpha perspective on life).

On the other hand, one of the guys at my work who isn't so "easy on the eyes", fat, fits your stereotypical neck beard role (except replace WoW, LoL, and other geek culture interests with sports, smoking weed, and call of duty) would try to flirt with her and she'd be legitimately disgusted by it. Same with a few other guys. She would often get this kid to do favors for her like buy her booze or give her rides. All of the other girls in the store were the same way.

I also have a female friend / on again off again plate who's an SJW type (although she's hot in that blue hair tatted up suicide girl kind of way and tolerates my cis white male perspectives because girls like this let respectable men mansplain reality to them.) This girl will get unattractive guys who approach her kicked out of a bar for not even saying anything lewd, yet she leaves the bar with me and lets me choke her and slap her lightly when we fuck.

Now in this situation, I'm the top tier guy. The girls at my work are sexually attracted to me and I've banged/made out with a few of them.

But in other groups, I have been more like the neck beard guy I previously described. Mainly cause a lot of my guy friends are higher SMV than me. I have been that guy who chauffeurs his friend and girlfriend around who his girlfriend fucking hates and doesn't respect despite the fact I'm nice to her. I have been that guy who's the punching bag of the group who everyone rags on and jokes about. And guess what? Even though I've made a lot of progress with the red pill, these people still see me the same way they did when I was a skinny fat, unhygienic slob who let his whole social circle treat him like a door mat.

Or even in the restaurant situation.. There was another HB7 who had this total Amy Schumer attitude and would constantly rag on me, and attempt to humiliate me at work. However, she was probably just sexually frustrated and jealous.

[–]JackGetsIt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good field report. You should have made this it's own post.

[–]The_Jenazad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While the language of some of you I'm not fond of the Alpha pass is real and I get away with so much shit. My boy though would get killed for the stuff I pull with females.

[–]OldGuyRedux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

says it all - genes matter


[–]RPFlame 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I once tried to chat up a girl "friend" and she complained about me talking too much with nonsensical small talk.

5 minutes later she was hugging someone and they were talking about some of the most nonsensical stuff. I don't even have to tell you that he was full of alpha male traits by now.

It's not just getting sexual. A woman feels blessed for being in the presence of an attractive alpha male. He is the prize. That's the alpha pass.

[–]Battle-Scars 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Refreshing to see the illusion stripped away by a woman in an honest manner. RP principals confirmed.

[–]uniquevoid 5 points6 points  (7 children)

this is something that low smv guys need to consider, YOU CANNOT do what Chad does, like grab women by the pussy

First raise your smv, meanwhile stick to your weapons which may be some aspects from Game (being fun, cocky without overdoing it), and having a strong frame. CALIBRATE better

When you get to the point where women grab your biceps and touch your 6pack you can be more aggressive in the escalation and the things you say, otherwise you'll get restrain order

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. This is good advice. Maybe the fatties are upset you mentioned biceps and abs. I guess if your loaded you can also start acting like Chad in some scenarios but there are lots of guys with money that women still like to beta shame.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've all seen it to some degree in our lives, this is no shock.

[–]CinematicRacer14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good shit. There are a lot of fake alphas in this sub. ThoughI think the terms Alpha and beta get over used. And I'm sure if any of that truly matters. There are plenty of broke ass alphas and rich ass betas who get laid.

[–]MikeAlphaGolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've thought this many times and almost made a post about it previously.

It's a snowball effect. After a certain level of alphaness (or something) you almost can say nothing wrong at any time. This means social anxiety dissolves even further leading to more spoken truths with no fucks given.

As long as you keep in mind the possible audience for what you say and do, you can't go wrong. IE; don't ever be sleazy in front of an older female boss.

I've been at parties where I've had my hands on a girl minutes after meeting her. She is lapping it up. Another mate of mine gets called out by the same girl in front of everyone for looking at her cleavage. I almost felt sorry for him.

Being red pill aware makes social situations so much more interesting and clearer to understand.

Great post.

[–]Willlockyear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is rubbish. If there is a spark of attraction then that behavior can be fine. If its unwanted that is harassment. That's it. Being self assured and cocky does not make that behaviour ok if someone isn't interested. At all. It's just as grim

[–]TrevWest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tom Brady on SNL giving a perfect example of the Alpha Pass

[–]rhys5584 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad you're aware that betas only respond to memes and tailored to that. ;)

[–]unknowncitzen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always say sexual comments to women I work with hangout with etc.. last week as an example, a woman I work with has a nice set of tits, she was wearing a shirt where the pleat literally stopped at her nipple. My comment to her was, 'didn't you see where the pleat stopped on your shirt' at the same time indicating thd nipple, and with me having a grin on my face..

Her response was a mock covering of her tits while she laughed it off.. and continued doing what ever she was before I stopped her.

This is mild for me, but an example of what I get away with. I don't consider my self a good loooking guy maybe a 6 or a 7, but I always get away with saying things that other guys would get the 'you're a fucken creep' look.

Not sure if it's alpha but imo it's all about delivery.

[–]gistaminute 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Best part about getting fired for referring to a coworker as a B is that it was WKs who went to HR about it while acknowledging she didn't seem upset by it (she knew what she was doing, all in jest). Fucking gender traitors probably ate their WAGs pussies extra hard that night.

[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think you bring up a worthwhile point. Another thing to consider is that women sometimes want to get revenge on you later on after a breakup or rejection from you. Then she can take all those earlier behaviors you got an alpha pass on and state exactly what you said/did to the proper authority. Your alphaness may help you to get another pass even with the men who come to get you, but no one is truly invulnerable in this modern environment.

[–]gistaminute 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point, they are indeed Tivoing all this shit because it serves that purpose. Unfortunately nothing worth salvaging with this role as it was WKs all the way up the chain. The middle-aged in-shape lady from HR was the only person who treated me decent, the bosses treated me like a deplorable monster. Yet to talk to that chick again... she was unattractive and I did indeed reject her after her first week or so and she'd taken a couple indirect swings at me in the presence of my team (one probably RP kid, otherwise WKs).

Fuck white knights. Had to take a $42k/yr pay cut thanks to that incident. Hopefully I can land another role like that within a year or so :(

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Problem is that alpha is subjective. Sure a guy who is top 1% in looks is alpha for every woman, but it remains true that for any given male, there are some women who are attracted and some who are not. Add to this the fleeting nature of feelz; the fact that for a woman you might be alpha today, and beta tomorrow.

So it basically boils down to women's preference on the moment. Sure it's not new, everybody knows that depending on the man and woman's preference, a same pick up line might be "sweet" or "creepy". The only thing new is that now you'd better be 100% sure to be seen as a alpha for a given woman at a given time, because where in the past you'd be just politely rejected and in the present you're labeled as "a creep", in the future you'll be put in jail.

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

a guy who is top 1% in looks is alpha for every woman

This shows that, as Jemima Lewis states in the linked article you are incapable (at the moment) of understanding the difference between alpha and beta.

Key clue: she uses the word behavior

not looks.

Alpha starts with rock-solid frame

The continues with comfort & confidence around women

more to follow, but that's a good place to start.

And lose the idea that good looks are what make a guy alpha. Field tested.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You're actually very right. Knew it but wrote that comment too fast to notice the idiocy I had written. Thanks for calling me out on it. Good lesson to think over my comments carefully.

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey man. You're the kind of self-aware guy who will go far. Good on you.

Keep on growing, keep on succeeding, and keeping on getting better with women. Owning that pussy.

(A friend of mine actually had the MILF wife of a mob guy say that to him when he got chatting with her in Las Vegas about how to have a good relationship with a woman. He said her words were "Own that pussy." And no, he didn't PU her, and she was only interested in her bad-boy hubby. LOL)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Negative, a real leader of men is an alpha period & everyone they come into contact with know that.

Also its not the same as a wolf style hierarchy where there is only one, top level males often work together.

Forget military leaders, they are given a job based on many factors. Think of criminal organisations.

[–]Viet_Lt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

and what is alpha behavior?

[–]ReddittFeist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

and what is alpha behavior?

This is the 64 million dollar question. It merits a thread all its own. But we can get started here.

Where to begin? As I mention elsewhere:

Alpha starts with rock-solid frame

Then continues with comfort & confidence around women

Jemima Lewis describes it indirectly in her article linked in the OP.

Also, while browsing around a well known purple pill site, I came across a post by a woman that perfectly captured what Alpha means to most women.

Here's the relevant part of her post: "One of the more fun parts of the day is watching my Alpha lawyer move through the halls. He stops to chat with other suits, asks if they're also going to Judge X's retirement party, exchanging pointers on dealing with the new judge ... most of my life, I've dealt with engineers and nerds, so watching smooth Alpha at work is a delight.

My lawyer does not bicker. He does not show emotion (even when my ex started swearing at him.) Instead, he calmly goes for the jugular."


Interestingly, the title of that thread was "Bickering is Beta" which got me thinking deeply. A lot of meat in that little sentence, and in the woman's followup.

[–]Train33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing that I think plays a huge factor in determining whether something is creepy or taken as just a joke is that person's perceived abundance mentality. Perceived from the Woman's perspective.

If a Beta, who would fall in love with the first girl who was receptive to that gesture and not just that but focus their sexual energy and general attention on this one girl then yeah, that would be creepy. They would begin to go out of their way to get more reactions out of the girl in any capacity... this is due to having no social awareness.

On the other hand, the Alpha would do the gesture and leave it at that. Therefore, the gesture would literally just be a joke. They wouldn't go and buy the girl lunch, hover around the desk, or orbit her in any way. They wouldn't be trying to get an investment out of the girl off of the basis of a small joke, whereas the Beta would. In fact, the Alpha would be doing this with multiple girls throughout the day ( not the same joke over and over) but flirting in general.

The Woman inherently knows this and will separate John the Creep, and Jonathan the Alpha in a split second.

[–]__ZEAL__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It totally exists. There are exactly 3 guys where I work who reap the benefits, myself included. All the other guys are not viewed anywhere near the same(there's probably 40 others). 3/4 of the work force is women.

I get away with so much bullshit it's not even funny. Everyone helps me even when I don't need it just for an excuse to be around me. Women automatically jump to arms against anyone who decides to talk shit about me. The owner of my company doesn't fire me even when I've totally screwed her over by not coming in for two weeks at one point.

It's real. And you better believe I take full advantage of it. When you make sure you're valuable, people tend hand you power over them.

[–]Questionnaire7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In class I sit next to this hot chick. The other day she brought in a frappuccino & finished it in class and set the mostly empty cup at the edge of the desk. At the end of class the dude that sits in front of us was leaving and told her not to spill the cup & said she almost did (she hadnt come close to spilling anything). This kid is a serious dweeb, all semester he turns around and trys to talk to me but trips over his words and says things to quietly to understand. Hot chick to my left give him a puzzled look & said nothing. Then I said "Yea watch out, your going to make a mess on the floor!" and she laughed and went to move the cup and said "oh no" jokingly

Basically we delivered the same line but only one of us got a positive reaction. There is much truth to the OPs post.

[–]cake_eater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've banged a lot of brawds , by not even tryin alpha or beta , I let the beta be a nice I let the alpha be a dumb guy. I run a catch and release program. I don't even know how many brawds I've laid. I don't consider my self an alpha but I also don't believe self esteem is a real thing but that's just me. I didn't choose this life I wanted the dream we talk about not being real.

[–]Malkard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of this scene from Family Guy... The principal's statement at 10:20-27 says it all.

Family Guy S14E13

Just one more double standard to add to the pile.

[–]pisspoordecisions 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so fucking true. Back in college I could get away with smacking girls asses in public and saying ridiculously lewd things...to the point where a few of them would straight up tell me if someone smacked their ass they knew I was standing behind them trying to say hi. They think it's funny, not creepy. Not sure everyone else could get away with that.

[–]bwoodski 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've actually been thinking about this for a while... glad to see someone else echoes my sentiments

[–]Buchloe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Science recognizes that there are two distinct types of male orangutan. They have different physiology from each other. One type is agressive and often scarred. Females willingly mate with this type. The other type is weaker, females avoid them, and they have to basically corner and rape females if they are to procreate.

[–]justgotalpha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree 100%,the most alpha dude i have ever seen happens to be my Brother and i have been aware of the alpha pass, i have heard him calling a women literally a cock sucker in front of everyone and they just laugh as if he was a standup comedian, i have witnessed the alpha pass numerous times, things he says are taken as comedy while the same thing been said by a beta or someone who has not proved themselves can get them in a lot of trouble

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