Red Pill TheoryWomen are attracted to transcendent men (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorWoujo

My Christmas gift to you all is an idea I have been working on for a while. It is this: women are attracted to men who are transcendent. By transcendent I mean here the ability to overcome social norms and any other challenges, including those from nature and other men. Men have the power to be transcendent because of their conquering instinct. Women want to be transcendent as well, but because their conquering emotion is weaker they can only experience transcendence vicariously through a man. Therefore, a woman’s primary sexual attraction to a man is to his presence, not to any tangible things he gives her or buys for her.

Human beings evolved to obey the alpha male and are therefore naturally submissive and conformist. Anxiety is an evolutionary response to prevent us from upsetting the alpha male. Social norms are always created by the alpha male, so we feel anxiety when we transgress them. This is all subconscious – rationally, we know that society’s rules can never always be right. But we are subconsciously pressured to follow the tribe because anxiety cripples us whenever we try to veer off the accepted path.

The alpha male can transgress social norms. He feels no obedience to anybody and therefore does not fear venturing into uncharted territory. Anxiety is mostly fear of other people, but a man can liquidate this fear by developing a healthy and confident conquering instinct (and controlling and directing this conquering instinct appropriately). This is why, throughout history men have been responsible for most major innovations: inventions, religions, philosophy, art, etc... Women can invent stuff and make art too, but it is much harder for them to transgress the fundamental social norms that underlie society and create something radically new unless a man does it first and shows them the way. This is why feminists talk so much about the need to “encourage” women to go into certain fields like STEM.

All human beings, men and women, are attracted to transcendence. We always want to know what is the on other side of our accepted reality. The poet Robert Browning famously said: “A man’s reach should exceed his grasp, or what’s a heaven for?” We are naturally attracted to that which just lies outside our grasp, just outside our knowledge, just outside our abilities. We are surrounded by infinity, but we are stuck in a finite being by our bodies, our minds, and most importantly, our social norms. This is why we are attracted to religion, to art, to great people (usually, men), to psychedelic drugs, to nature, etc… These things give us a glancae, even for a moment, at infinity. Transcendence represents hope, freedom, escape, rebirth, power, serenity, peace, victory, etc… And only the alpha male can transcend. Only the alpha male has the emotional ability to ignore everything society says and do something radically different.

Almost everything is a social norm created by a man. Art, philosophy, religion, and our deepest beliefs about reality are all created by men. Even our understanding of the natural world is dictated by science, which is man-made. Although science purports to describe “reality” with no subjective interpositions, science is really just a bunch of theories created by human beings, and those theories expand and improve because of humans. And like any field, science only has radical conceptual innovations when somebody transgresses accepted norms. So even science sometimes needs an alpha male to expand the accepted paradigm.

Therefore, the alpha male can EVEN TRANSCEND THE LAWS OF NATURE. Or at least, what humankind know the laws of nature to be. In the last 100 years, men have created the ability to fly, instantly exchange terabytes of data over long distances, and destroy the world with the press of a button, all things that people previously thought were impossible. The Bible says in Genesis 11:6 that if the people of the world unite mankind can do literally anything. Therefore, the only thing that stops a man from being God is other men. An alpha male that transcends the rules of society (and nature) is on his way to becoming a God. As you can imagine, this is incredibly thrilling and exciting to women.

Of course, women HATE that men can be transcendent and they can’t. A proud, independent feminist woman will say that women can transcend and innovate just as well as men can. This makes sense – women don’t want to admit that they have to rely on men. But there is an unbridgeable power gap between men and women, which creates an inherent and eternal resentment in women. And no matter how much men supplicate to women, they can never raise women up to close the gap, so their supplication only weakens themselves and increases women’s resentment.

That’s why women try to tear down great men – it eases the anxiety of knowing somebody has abilities you don’t have. A “shit test” is when she “senses” that you may be transcendent, so she tries to trap you within social norms to see if either her or society can bottle you up and make you feel anxiety. And when you overcome, she becomes intrigued because you are literally doing something that she cannot do.

No matter how mean, or pretentious, or snobby, or hot, or damaged, or crazy a woman is, and no matter how much she tries to put you down, at the end of the day you have something she can never have: the ability to transcend. And deep down, she knows that. And you can hang that ability over her head for eternity.

Of course, not all men are transcendent. Most men are also submissive and conformist, especially when they want something (see my spiel about acquisitiveness below). Most great men in history have been supported by beta males that obeyed them unthinkingly. Every famous rapper has an entourage of guys that do his bidding and hope for some of his scraps. A confident, smart woman who works hard is more of a “man” than most of these losers. Men are also attracted to transcendence, but they are less likely to completely submit to the alpha male because a small part of them knows that they can BECOME the alpha male if they try hard enough. That said, the “alpha” in most men is usually silenced so they end up being submissive and conformist.

Transcendence and abundance mentality

Transcendence and abundance mentality are deeply interconnected, which is why women are attracted to men with abundance mentality.

There are two possible attitudes a person can have when approaching the world: one of appreciation and one of acquisitiveness. Acquisitiveness is the attitude where you see the world as something to be used and taken. You want food, you want sex, you want money. Appreciation is where you see the world as something to be appreciated, experienced and enjoyed. Acquisitiveness is associated with scarcity mentality, anxiety, and therefore submission. Appreciativeness is associated with transcendence. An appreciative person enjoys EVERYTHING about life: a beautiful sunrise, nature, breakfast in the morning, saying hello to strangers, even the sheer wonder at the fact that the world exists! But an acquisitive person has tunnel vision and can only focus on the specific things they want at that moment. Like a lot of people, I enjoy a bump of cocaine on a Saturday night, but unlike a cocaine addict I don’t let it ruin my life so that I can’t enjoy the other great things about life.

Of course, you need money, sex, shelter, food, etc… There is nothing wrong with acquiring things: the problem is with the EMOTION of acquisitiveness. In fact, appreciative people are often more successful than acquisitive people, because they are not crippled by the anxiety caused by acquisitiveness. They will not be distracted by their addictions, they will not form an unhealthy attachment to a particular person, thing or idea, and they will learn to enjoy the struggle.

Women are turned off by acquisitiveness because nobody likes a taker. In fact, a good rule in any social interaction is to “appreciate” the other person and not try to “acquire” something from the other person. Everybody likes to be appreciated, nobody likes to be used.

Lower-ranked apes obey the alpha because the alpha controls the resources and distributes them out to members of the tribe that obeyed the alpha. Therefore, if you ask a woman for anything – her time, her attention, etc... you FEEL beta to her. Don’t ever ask – instead, tell the woman you will go appreciate something, and then she can also come appreciate it with you if she wants. You can “ask” only if you already know she wants to go so your “asking” is really just “accepting” her to come with you. Of course, I am talking about the beginning stages of a relationship – once you’ve established a relationship where she is regularly giving you things (like cleaning your house) it’s ok to ask her for things in return.

Supplicating to a woman and validating yourself to a woman are indirectly forms of acquisitiveness because you are indirectly “asking” her to like you, and she can subconsciously tell. If a billionaire brags to a stripper about how much money he has or buys her t hings, the emotional subtext is “I want your validation so I can ‘have’ you.” Putting a woman on a pedestal is even worse because it completely destroys your transcendence: she wants a man to take her to infinity, but if his focus and desire is her, she’s back to where she started.

Women are attracted to appreciative men because it FEELS like those men have everything and are therefore alpha. Obviously, nobody really has everything – we are talking about feelings. A happy guy having a blast at the party feels more “rich” than the billionaire stressing out over whether the girls there like him.

To be appreciative, you need abundance mentality (or better put, abundance emotions). You must “feel” like you have, or can get, anything so that you are not hindered by the anxiety associated with acquisitiveness.

It is not as simple as flipping a switch in your brain to say “I feel like I have everything so I don’t need to be acquisitive.” Developing abundance emotions is hard. You must feel abundance in the deepest depths of your soul and in every situation and in every crevice of your consciousness. I would guess that most pathologies, like drug addiction and overeating, are caused by a deep inner scarcity anxiety - you pursue an irrational pleasure that actually harms you in the long run because you think this is the only happiness you will feel in the foreseeable future.

You can get abundance emotions by actually having abundance. But a true feeling of transcendence can also create abundance emotions, because you know you can defeat any man or nature to get what you need or want. Transcendence is a better way to feel abundance because it represents infinite hope: I can turn down this Playboy Playmate right now because in the future I can get anything I want, including 100 Playboy Playmates.

Women can never be fully appreciative because they are inherently acquisitive. They cannot have abundance mentality because they do not “feel” like they can conquer their enemies to get what they want whenever they want. Of course, there are billionaire women who, for all practical purposes, can get whatever they want whenever they want, but they still will not feel emotionally transcendent because its not wired into their genes.

The best way for a man to “appear” transcendent to a woman is to be completely appreciative of life. Pure appreciativeness with no acquisitiveness, and therefore no fear or anxiety, is something a woman can never obtain on her own – she can only experience it vicariously through you. That is your most important and attractive asset is simply your presence.


I hate the idea of “game” because it implies doing things to make a woman like you, which is inherently validation-seeking. Nevertheless, for a woman to be attracted to your transcendence, she must witness it. Game requires performativity because ultimately she is attracted to the emotion of transcendence, not your actual tangible existence (even though your actual tangible existence is still very important). And emotions are actions; they don’t exist in a vacuum. You can have all the cool shit in the world, but no matter who you are, your cool shit is finite. And when the woman reaches the end of the cool shit, she will get bored and go looking for something else. Worthless women with nothing to offer have gotten bored of Johnny Depp and Elon Musk, they will get bored of you too.

Women who fall for alphas often say that being around him is a “religious” experience. Being good-looking or well-dressed is not enough to create a “religious” experience. A transcendent man has access to the infinite because no possibility is foreclosed to him.

Therefore, women need to witness you being an indestructible fortress that obeys or submits to nobody and is dedicated to enjoying life and accomplishing his goals. In normal human interaction, you must curtail your own enjoyment so that the people around you can also have fun. But women want to see you aggressively and genuinely enjoy yourself, letting nobody get in the way, so they can also vicariously feel that power. You must be passionate – you must bring all of your thoughts and feelings into the enjoyment so that she can be energized as well. The best way to “game” a woman is to be deeply present, deeply passionate, and have deep fun – talk about things you both enjoy, laugh, and make her feel like she can join you on your enjoyment quest.

Confidence is attractive to women is because biologically, anxiety is related to submissiveness. There was an article earlier on this subreddit by u/mikehaines which basically said that the key to scoring with model-tier girls was holding frame. And by holding frame, he just meant being calm. And to a big extent, he’s right. Just being calm, collected, and relaxed makes you much more attractive. Again, this is attractive to women because it is something they can’t do. They naturally feel anxiety around powerful people.

Also, why would a transcendent person feel anxiety? Nothing can hurt them. They live in a higher plane than our own. A transcendent person can fly or walk through walls so why would they be scared of a woman with low self-esteem whose only accomplishment today was to put on a dress and makeup? Of course this is all irrational – you can’t walk through walls and sometimes it makes sense to have anxiety. But we’re not talking about the real world here, we are talking about feelings.

The struggle

This is all, of course, much easier said than done. No man can feel “transcendent” all the time: we are all tormented by anxiety, desires, and obstacles. Human beings are inherently frail creatures, which is why it is so impressive when somebody overcomes their frailty. The mere presence of a woman oftentimes subconsciously puts us into acquisitive mode, which introduces anxiety, which creates submissiveness. Everything here is a perfect ideal that will take a lot of time and struggle to achieve. I am not there yet, and I doubt anybody here is there yet all the time either.

Furthermore, oftentimes women cannot truly appreciate transcendence because of their acquisitiveness, which overrides their deeper emotions. If a woman is having trouble paying her rent, she may choose a “beta” male rather than a transcendent alpha male. Similarly, a woman who is addicted to drugs and partying will not appreciate an alpha male who doesn’t party. These women know they are missing out on superior men, but they literally cannot control their own addictions. Ideally, to “game” a woman you must find a way to satisfy her stupid desires and also be transcendent.

A woman also cannot truly appreciate a man’s transcendence outside of a strictly-enforced monogamous relationship. As I’ve described here, a truly transcendent man isn’t doing much for the woman – he is merely existing. This behavior, while attractive, induces anxiety in women because women are also wired to seek a protector and provider. She can only let you “exist” as an alpha if she knows that you are under social sanction to stay with her (in many traditional societies, death if you leave). Your “transcendence” means nothing to her unless she can vicariously join and she will not appreciate this feeling if she knows you can dump her at any time. Otherwise, she will be constantly in a struggle to “lock you down” to make sure you don’t go anywhere, creating an unending struggle between your transcendence and her need for security.

All of these ideas are background thoughts that linger unspoken beneath the superficial veneer of an interaction. You can’t walk into a hangout with a woman thinking “I must be transcendent, I must be transcendent, I must be transcendent.” You need to just be yourself and enjoy yourself, knowing deep down what is really going on.

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[–]Eric216 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Good article. I think this character attribute is harder to attain than thinking "I am transcendent."

I think a man must have been his own man, done some very hard work, and actually broken through some barriers, before he KNOWS "I am transcendent." Then it (his transcendence) will be seen by any who gaze upon his countenance.

[–]Wollingwight 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I agree in that to get to this place you probably need to be tested quite hard. That's why failures in life are so productive for the most successful men.

[–]poopdeck 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Rites of passage/some sort of strenuous life experience/deprivation will foster a transcendent inner being.

[–]Vanq86 10 points11 points  (0 children)

For sure, it's what people often refer to as character building experiences.

As you successfully clear each new hurdle in life you gradually build confidence in your ability to overcome future ones. Clearing many and larger hurdles amplifies this confidence until it reaches a tipping point where hurdles stop looking like hurdles but instead opportunities for growth and self-exploration. I would call this the moment of transcendence, as at that moment life becomes more about exploring possibilities and pushing boundaries than toeing the social line in search of acceptance.

In short, overcoming adversity helps build character which allows you to transcend your primal desire to seek the appreciation and validation of others, and instead become the person giving out the appreciation.

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Absolutely. This is why I'm not a big fan of affirmations.

[–]papersheepdog 47 points48 points  (7 children)

Very nice thank you. We can learn a lot here about how to present the right signals.. but if its ultimately a deception, a front, a game, we will probably not be satisfied. I think if we develop ourselves to the point where these signals just come out naturally, from the position of transcendence and abundance mentality, we can forget all of these crutches and schemes and just be true to ourselves and our women.

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[–]maykyq 42 points43 points  (2 children)

it reminds me of this.

[–]Faymozilla 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I was having a really terrible as fuck day until I read that picture u posted and actually laughed out loud

[–]TheReformist94 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Time and time again,it needs to be said. All that matters is looks and how you make her feel in that moment. Not your status,not your career,not your money. Everything that matters is a count of looks and feels. If game and status are working its because its contributing to feels. As soon as you stop the feels she'll move on to the next cock.

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[–]partysandwich 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How would you convert it to and audio file?

[–]JustDoMeee 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Pm me the audio file once you've converted it, I love this post and I'd appreciate it, thanks.

[–]Faymozilla 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Pm me whatever he pms you pls

[–]slay_it_forward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pm me his pm or you're not alpha.

[–]Wollingwight 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Wow, epic post! Take the time to appreciate and understand this in its entirety, avoid the desire to simplify this. It's a manual for life, everything else will fall into place.

This tidbit is pure gold

Don’t ever ask – instead, tell the woman you will go appreciate something, and then she can also come appreciate it with you if she wants

And this one as well

The best way to “game” a woman is to be deeply present, deeply passionate, and have deep fun – talk about things you both enjoy, laugh, and make her feel like she can join you on your enjoyment quest.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 16 points17 points  (3 children)


Game (as I understand it) is the bending of reality or perception in the mind of another.

An example is when you "bluff" in Poker... what cards you have in your hand matters, but the Game aspect is how you manipulate the fears and greed of others.

Everything in Game is a trick... a magician's trick.

But there is skill in those tricks and manipulation does work and always has and always will because we all react to external influence.

The "transcendent man" is fully aware of the deceptions, but is separate from the herd mind where those things come from.

When the woman attempts her Game ("Shit Test") it falls flat because the man has seen it before.

Amused Mastery means you already know what is coming... it's funny because it's so predictable.

No matter how much you are transcendent you never are "all knowing" so life leaves room for eternal improvement towards a perfect knowledge of the eternal.

The eternal never changes... we just never fully grasp it.

Truth is never fully known, but you do get closer as you "Kill the Beta".


[–]slay_it_forward 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You're posts are always so deep /s

[–]Andrew54321 46 points47 points  (3 children)

You can’t walk into a hangout with a woman thinking “I must be transcendent, I must be transcendent, I must be transcendent.”

But you can do so thinking "I am transcendent."

Good article.

[–]xinihil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Better to say "I am in the process of becoming transcendent." I forget where I read this trick, but I am quoting a format from somewhere on this subreddit I believe.

[–]franz1980 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The idea of transcending is something that has been on my mind since I was in my teens. I won't give the details as to why... But generally I refuse to accept that " this is all there is" and I refuse to play the cards I've been delt. Of course realistically i cannot change everything...

Now, one of the interesting things is that this mindset attracts women... And the smarter ones at that...

Lately my motto has been "build YOUR own heaveneden"... If you build it they will come

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Can relate. Much of this is about positing long game (and large rewards) over short game (fleeting rewards). The transcendant frame might fail to capture a persons attention in the first introduction, but it probably will on the 2nd-3rd. Also it filters for a higher quality woman. The bad boy dickhead filter might catch the odd hottie, but she will most likely be an insufferable brainless fool.

[–]winndixiedirty 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I'm no expert yet, but women are also attracted to men who transcend not the limits of human ability, but simply their environment. Which is why girls like bad boys who "come from a bad background", basically a guy in the slums who make no money but act alpha and a fresh haircut and speak proper. He isn't "transcending" from the norm, no matter how low the norm is. One needs not be a phd or basketball player, he just needs an "underdog story". Or make one up.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm no expert yet, but women are also attracted to men who transcend not the limits of human ability, but simply their environment.

Well obviously no man transcends the limits of human ability; women are seeking the "emotion" of transcendence. And I agree that this is why women like "bad boys" - it feels like bad boys are "transcending" society by breaking its rules. Of course, they are not transcendent at all - they are the scum of society and usually end up in jail. But they give that transcendent feeling, which is what women seek.

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Clever thesis! The bad boy phenomenon must be included for the transcendence hypothesis to hold weight. Overall I think this is a great idea framework to integrate all the facets of female attraction into.

[–]returnofthequack 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I experienced transcendence and it's direct effects on human interaction in a party setting on Saturday. I was recording my bros engaging in a beer pong game from an outside deck in Brooklyn on Snapchat and noticed a bp pseudo alpha waving at me and flipping me off from inside. When I stepped inside he shouted "Who are you?" at me. I held eye contact and grimaced in disgust. His girlfriend observed. He asked again, with slightly more challenging intonations. I held frame and changed my expression to: amused. He asked a third time, sounding confused. I shrugged and engaged my bros in playful banter.

His cute southern belle gf sidled up to me but I walked away knowing she'll be around again.

Fuck with me and I'll pretend you don't exist in front of your girl, dog.

Interesting post, btw. ovoxo

[–]Crailberry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice, I will have to remember this one.

[–]ATrashMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You have a VERY pleasant to read writing style - I blasted through your entire article and was done before I realized it.

[–]cubicpolynomial3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow. This is definitely the best thing I've read in a very long time.

I have a very strong case of acquisitiveness. Hell, even after a taxing workout I was up all night just from this kind of anxiety. Overeating, binge drinking (got rid of this one) -- I've shown these behaviors all my life.

How can I move away from acquisitiveness and into abundance mentality?

[–]CptFizz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

tl;dr: Women are attracted to independent men.

[–]nuc23 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Elon Musk is one such guy I can think of.

[–]Wollingwight 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Yeah he embodies this on a fucking insane level

[–]CuckedByTRUMP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Besides the fact that he is a huge beta who married a gold digger twice. Great man ruined by a harpy.

[–]Dustin_Bromain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He learned the hard way though; if you read up on his divorce settlements.

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[–]1StoicCrane 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Women are attracted to whatever can pay their bills at the moment. Whether it be a transcendent male with a stable career after a chick hit the wall or a slob that hit it big on the lottery. At the end of the day women are opportunists. They're only attracted to that which either gives them tingles or ensures long term luxury and security.

[–]Vanq86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you somewhat, but to be an opportunist one requires a conscious awareness to guide a logical decision, which is the opposite of what attraction really is - a primal urge that can't be consciously controlled.

What I mean is the attraction a woman feels for the man that can provide for her is not the same thing as the attraction she has for what the man can provide. The first is legitimate attraction that induces tingles whereas the second we see often with gold digging HB10s fucking rich geriatrics. It's their difference between real attraction for the man or feigned attraction based on ulterior motives.

[–]mdcrubengonza 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How do you reconcile your thoughts with reports of those that have been able to attain commitment from their partners while they themselves have been given permission to sleep around?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I don't see how anything I wrote contradicts that. Women want "commitment" from a man in the sense of a promise to provide and protect, they don't care (on a deep, biological level) if you fuck other girls. In fact, women are turned on by the fact that other girls want to fuck you.

Here is an incredible example of the vicarious enjoyment theory: a lot of women are attracted to guys who fuck lots of girls. I've had a lot of girls say shit to me when I'm fucking them like "pretend I'm one of the other girls you like to fuck" or "I bet a lot of girls want to fuck you." It's almost like they want the same thing I want: for me to fuck a lot of girls. It's not awesome for a girl to fuck a lot of guys, but it is awesome if a guy fucks a lot of girls, so they want to vicariously be the guy who fucks a lot of girls, by being a girl who fucks me. Isn't that a mindfuck? (literally??)

[–]MacNulty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciation, joy, servitude, worship, transcendence, abundance, I absolutely love these words. That's a great post and this philosophy goes a long way in creating a happy life and a better future for everyone around you; they touch the core nature of manhood which is really about growth and contribution. It is a very noble way of looking at the world, because you get to play the a role of a great leader and a provider at the same time. If a man transcends, he can die knowing that his life meant something. It's not that uncommon for people to be making millions and stay stuck in scarcity mindset, thinking more millions will make them happy which is cringe worthy. Another well-known quote from bible comes to mind: it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God.

[–]M_Justice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is long, but true. But I'm beyond caring what women are attracted to and practicing the transcendent as you say. Women will always be there.

[–]bossplayaintraining 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What if you have nothing to begin with?

How do you build that abundance mentality?

[–]PostFunktionalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I reject this post as adolescent tripe based on nothing but my sheer force of will.

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This is stupid and ambiguous.

[–]microwave44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's so much i disagree with. Yet i love the post, very well written.

However, in my experience, those acquisitive people have lots of success as well, while appreciators might be under-achieving. You painted one as the good and the other as the bad. The truth is, both are sides of the same coin, society needs both masks to balance each other, and no one is superior to the other. You can be a appreciative hippie or a acquisitive junkie and an appreciative president versus an acquisitive CEO. Social status and position are not determined neither determine your mindset polarity. You can be transcendental AF (a guy like Alan Watts), yet not have pussy fall in your lap, or a Chad-type loser that's engulfed by financial debt but get laid regularly. I certainly observed both, even if i am biased to say that a appreciative/transcendental personality is more desirable, both in the eyes of the public and of individual women.

But yeah live free.

[–]ChickenBalotelli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, son! What a quality post. Thank you for taking the time to write it out. I enjoyed several parts, like the one about going after "yours," in this case related to enjoying yourself and going after it aggressively. Also, I'm glad you wrote about how acquisitiveness for women by means of supplication and "Getting her to like you" are the wrong path. Mere appreciation is much stronger and eliminates the neediness vibe. I guess few like to be controlled.

Also, the concept of transcendence itself is a deep topic....the ability to transform the world around you EVEN if it's against the grain of society, as revolutions go.....OF COURSE women won't be good at this.....they're programmed to be social bees....I'm glad you tied that into how they have to see an example first....

I also took from the part on inner emptiness being given a temporary reprieve through addictions as well. It was even brought to my attention that a way to combat addictions is to focus on what you CAN appreciate, vs. what you're "missing" in the form of a chemical high.

Thanks a bunch. Sounds like you've been into eastern spirituality with all this talk of the infinite.

[–]Cthulhu_Is_Calling 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A woman also cannot truly appreciate a man’s transcendence outside of a strictly-enforced monogamous relationship.

Can you further explain this? Does this mean a man's transcendence will be more appreciated if they are in a monogamous relationship?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women are attracted to transcendent men but a man being transcendent doesn't do shit for a woman if he doesn't stick around. Because our society doesn't require men or women to stick around, women are in constant anxiety of their alpha male leaving, so they try incessantly to box in his transcendence to keep him there.

[–]1ShallITinder 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Everyone on the red pill reading this, FYI, OP is the same guy who posted a bullshit thread about people in their 30s and spent time berating the Leonardo DiCaprios of the world, why? OP has an issue with guys in their 30s who sleep around and won't settle down. I know it is easy for someone to make a motivational post here and there, capture attention of this sub, and then attempt to brainwash everyone but just letting everyone know of OP's motives.

OP made a post about how women in their 30s love going for nerds and geeks, disregarding alpha fucks and beta bucks. It is not his ignorance that bothers me, it is his agenda.

I find it disturbing here OP is telling men to be different and reject society's norms but this is the same man who hates guys that sleep around with random women in their 30s and makes them out to be psychos with major issues. The red pill sub has taken in enough cucks to the point that I am praising /u/Gaylubeoil for calling them out. I think everyone should be aware of OP's future posts, not pay too much credibility to his site, and aware of his agenda.

This is a man who wants everyone on this sub to be a betabuck, get married with kids before the age of 35, and looks down on men that go a separate route. Everyone, beware of OP.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Are you jealous of OPs superior wisdom? You sound like a bitch tbh.

Chasing instant gratification your whole life is the definition of stupidity. If you do this, you can gureentee a strong feeling of hopelessness settling around you - unless you are a shallow brainless fool. Which you may be!

[–]freethinker34 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Standard redpill theory is fertility negative. Running around your whole life sleeping with random women who are on birth control or using condoms, or getting a vasectomy is not gonna produce red pilled babies.

As good as red pill is, and its fucking awesome, it has its flaws. Being fertility negative is its primary flaw, so if this guy went against the standard red pill grain and encourages families, good for him.

[–]Denali_Laniakea -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What about literally cucking other guys? Would reproducing with someone's wife not be fertility positive?

[–]johnsonsson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

look who's there! the thoughtpolice!

hey man TRP is a DEBATE and not (your) agenda.

[–]Dustin_Bromain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, Einstein was an alpha male?

[–]Involution88 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

[–]dottywine -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Interesting. I think that people would be attracted to a "transcendent" man, but I think history has plenty of examples of women who feel transcendent, as well. I think it's weird to generalize all women as being incapable but, as you note by implication, not every man can be transcendent.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah i'm pushing a very specific definition of transcendent here

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Love the spiritual/higher consciousness approach to frame and presence!

The way I see all ideas, emotions, and the presence someone gives off is this: there is a hierarchy. Being a cocky alpha is simply an approximation of some higher more refined and more beautiful (weird word but I think it fits) state. A cocky alpha is a shadow .. but since our subconscious brains extract features and these get manifested as emotional reactions, it hits enough of something attractive that common women (and men as friends) will respond to it. The cocky alpha was never the end game, it was just a little stage peformance of a greater truth/state. This greater state is something like transcendence. Defining the world around you in higher order concepts and looking for the beauty in everything and watching for pitfalls. Pitfalls include, becoming too much of a spiritual weirdo: FAIL... becoming too easy going when the situation demands action: FAIL...becoming too proud (this will automatically dismantle the state)..: too many pitfalls to list. This is where wisdom comes into it.. discerning the structure of elevated brain states when we are lucky enough to inhabit them - and then maintain them for as long as possible when they arrive.

Great job on this mate. I didn't fully agree with all the directions you pushed this, but overall I agreed with the message. Keep it up! Great perspective!

[–]JFMX1996 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

One of the best I've read here, it truly spoke to me.

I wish to see more of these types of posts.

I know it took you a lot of effort, so I'd like to say thanks for taking the time to write this up and post it on here for us all to gain insights from.

[–]kremer5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

super fucking interesting, great post

[–]Hungry4UrBod 0 points0 points [recovered]

What if you're a guy (from a bad background) who has habits of saying things that put people down? Or challenging those who should have authority (ie, professors)? Or just generally lacking social tact?

How can you have "transcendence" when your default mode of being present, being you, and not giving a shit can burn bridges?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then fix yourself.

Part of feeling transcendent is that you think you can defeat any challenge, even if it is within yourself. A lot of people certain obstacles and think "well I can never fix that" or "I was born an asshole" or some other shit like that. Those ideas are just in your head - they are rooted deep in your head but there is a way to overcome them. You have to feel like you can first.

What if you're a guy (from a bad background) who has habits of saying things that put people down? Or challenging those who should have authority (ie, professors)?

That's still you being acquisitive. Why do you need to tell people they suck? What does that do for anybody? It's just feeding into your own ego who has to feel better than other people. Those people sucking at life doesn't affect your life and you're not making anything better, so your just jacking yourself off mentally. Cut it out. If you're gonna be shitty to somebody, there better a purpose to it. I'm a lawyer, and I am shitty to people all the time, but I only do it when there is something to be gained. Being shitty to make yourself feel powerful is loser behavior.

By the same token, a sign of the enlightened man is being able to take abuse and not say anything. If a crazy guy from the hood bumps into me at a club and makes me spill my drink everywhere, I'm not going to play tough guy. I have a lot more to lose than him, and he is probably crazy enough to kick my ass, so I move on and live to fight another day. If that guy and everybody in that club think I'm a bitch it doesn't affect whether I take good shits in the morning, so they can think whatever they want.

[–]hownao -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bravo! Everything you said clicked. Loved the part about shit tests. It solidified my idea of what it is.

[–]Mithra9009 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be in this world but not of this world.

I do recall reading here some time ago though that just because you've attained the heights of physical, mental and spiritual self-development, that doesn't mean a woman will acknowledge you for it and so it's really best not to associate your self-development with the quality of women that come your way because the two aren't associated.

[–]JahRussian -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Solid article, apart from the part where you say the "you must" things. They're contradictory to the message of your post

[–]robgymrat87 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great read! Just learned something about myself which is I am submissive/acquisition to women! This post is spot on about being yourself and appreciative of everything what you have but simultaneously work for more!


[–]Vanq86 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting post. I think this explains why so many MGTOW inadvertently end up with women throwing themselves at them - they're unintentionally coming across as transcendent.

[–]AverageJoe_Dalton -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

So basicly status. It gives you power to be free, to do as you please. To have abundance mentality. To be transcendent. To be alpha. That's what women want, to be with high valuable man, who's independent and dominant, an alpha.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Nope. I don't think you got it. Status is a tangible, real thing. No amount of status will ever hypnotize a girl forever. Transcendence is an emotion that needs to be continually produced. Status helps, but it's not everything. Also, part of transcending is realizing that socially made things like status are meaningless and can easily be brushed aside by the new wave of alpha males. The kind of France was the shit until he lost his head in the French Revolution.

[–]AverageJoe_Dalton -1 points0 points  (1 child)

What I wanted to say is that status is a tool that will allow you to have social freedom and thrtefore be transcendent. Status = Independence and social and financial freedom = Dominance = Confidence = Abundance mentality = IDGAF = Alpha. Of course you have to be decent looking, intelligent and have some style.

[–]warm20 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

by transcendence do you mean the no ego?

[–]Wollingwight 4 points5 points  (1 child)

If you put some effort into actually reading the op's work you will get the answer.

[–]warm20 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

going beyond limits of gender alright