Richard Feynman was Alpha AF! (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Iamjustanotheryou

I was browsing through "Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman!" and look what I found!

"We went over to their table and he introduced me to the girls and then went off for a moment. A waitress came around and asked us what we wanted to drink. I ordered some water, and the girl next to me said, "Is it all right, if I have a champagne?"

"You can have whatever you want," I replied coolly, "'cause you're payin' for it." (Not putting her at a pedestal)

"What's the matter with you?" She says. "Cheapskate, or something?" (Shit test 1)

"That's right." (Holding frame)

"You're certainly not a gentleman!" she said, indignantly. (Shit test 2)

"You figured me out immediately!" I replied. (Agree and amplify)

I had learned in New Mexico many years before not to be a gentleman.

Pretty soon they were offering to buy me drinks - the tables were turned completely! "

And these were prostitues in Vegas! Holy crap! What a cool scientist!

And of course, the red pill works.

[–]usago 163 points164 points  (3 children)

“Study hard what interests you the most in the most undisciplined, irreverent and original manner possible.” “Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.”

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 20 points20 points [recovered]

This used to be the standard definition of science. I read some alt-right manifesto the other day, it was full of positions on science for some reason. But it makes perfect sense, today science is seen from a biased, passionate, value-driven POV, i.e "Oh I love animals, I will be a veterinarian!" "I love nature, I'm gonna study climate change!". Well it turns it out it is a shite recipe for science, the Greeks defined it as dispassionate, critical and abstract thinking. TRP is the same thing, when you stop putting women on a pedestal, you can figure them out.

[–]Hypnot0ad 118 points119 points  (25 children)

The name of the chapter this excerpt is from is "You Just Ask Them? ", and unfortunately it has been cut from recent editions from the book as it is sexist. The entire chapter is pure RP, and I suggest you read it. Here is the full text: https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-j8W-CdpHb8CDbSBH/feyn_surely_djvu.txt

As others here pointed out, Feynman wasn't some natural alpha, in fact the chapter starts with him painted as a typical beta bucks. As many of us here can relate to, he was frustrated with his lack of results. A club employee who he gets to know well teaches him the ways of the red pill. As expected, Feynman is a quick learner and sees immediate results. Give it a read for a view of TRP from a Nobel prize winning physicist.

[–]Einen777 55 points55 points [recovered]

They cut it from the book? Wow. Some evil people in charge of his estate.

[–]vagbutters 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Might not necessarily be evil. From a financial or business perspective, being PC saves you face. Beta males/feminists will be the first to lambaste a work if it "sexist." This will adversely affect whatever is being sold/pitched, or someone's reputation.

The same principle behind top politicians and businessmen probably fucking a harem of women in private, while maintaining a "good married beta husband" persona in public.

[–]Nymdox 31 points32 points  (3 children)

In my edition, there's a long editors note before the chapter that explains how his wife had just died and he wasn't really thinking straight. Basically claiming that the whole chapter wasn't really him, just a grief response... almost calling it temporary insanity!

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Lol "If you try the techniques that Richard spoke about in this chapter, your success with women will skyrocket. But don't do it - Richard was obviously mentally ill at the time."

It's hilarious that people are putting words in a genius's mouth after his death.

[–]wanderer779 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This reminds me of Jason Zweig's commentary in the intelligent investor. He took a book written by a genius that was already perfect and decided he needed to insert his own less eloquent prose in an attempt to argue the opposite point the man was trying to make. It's super douchey. The worst part is a lot of people liked it.

[–]Nymdox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have that book and couldn't make heads or tails of the additions. You just explained it to me. Now I'm going to have to reread it with that lens.

[–]WhorehouseVet 21 points22 points  (0 children)

So buy the older editions of the book, just to spit on feminazis.

[–]Iamjustanotheryou[S] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Ridiculous! I have heard that the autobiography of Benjamin Franklin suffered a similar fate.

[–]tio1w 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Love the part where he list the advantages of fucking older women :)

[–]Iamjustanotheryou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you have the e-book of the older version?

[–]dinosauralienspirits 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol awesome. I laughed my ass off when he just lost his temper and called her a whore. Aside from the meanness it was interesting to read this from a different perspective.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That chapter was a better RP example than 90% of the ones posted on this sub

[–]tio1w 2 points3 points  (1 child)

in fact the chapter starts with him painted as a typical beta bucks.

Not to mention his oneitis with his first wife. He was madly in love with her even as she was in the hospital.

[–]Jigsus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why would he not be in love with her when she's in the hospital?

[–]gorgamin 5 points5 points [recovered]

Sexist? Oh you mean the days before it was acceptable for men to be cucks. ;)

[–]Jigsus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was perfectly acceptable for men to be cuckold. Back in those days the preservation of marriage meant everything.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wait are you serious about it being cut? I find that hard to believe, if you can produce a link i'll check it out.

[–]desno 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do you know which editions include this chapter? I'd rather get it on kindle if i could, if not I will have to get the paperback

[–]Hypnot0ad 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm not sure, but if you can view the table of contents beforehand just look for the chapter titled "You Just Ask Them?".

Someone asked for proof that it had been removed, and I'm having trouble easily finding any proof so maybe it was isolated to one or few editions. I just recall picking up a recent edition in a bookstore and looking for that chapter specifically and not finding it. Another comment said the chapter was in their edition but with an editors note basically saying Feynman was in a rough emotional state over his wife when he wrote it.

Overall its a great book and I recommend it.

[–]desno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks, for checking. Under further investigation I think you're correct when you say "maybe it was isolated to one or few editions"

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 52 points53 points  (1 child)

Yeah, Feynman comes up a couple of times a year. He's like an alpha god among nerds; highly intelligent, but learns to fight toughs and take home women from bars.

Highly recommend his books.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm in physics.

I'll tell you what, given the way we think, something tells me he had this exact shit down to a science.

It's not like normal sciences, it's more like you have to be really intuitive and think about things in new, unusual ways.

[–]plein_old 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Just found this gem:

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself – and you are the easiest person to fool." —Richard Feyman

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 58 points59 points  (23 children)

He learned this the hard way though, having tried the nice-guy approach and getting fleeced he was told by someone (can't remember who) to do the exact opposite and pay for absolutely nothing - then he started to get the results he wanted.

He still got married.

[–]cake_eater 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Feynman didn't try the nice guy approach. He is genuine and found out sadly that women demand manipulation

[–]thecomputerp 11 points12 points  (1 child)

the period when he was a "nice guy"...is that also in the book: "Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman!" or in another source?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think it's covered in the same book - how he tries to be nice, pays, gets nowhere and is told how to do it - pay for nothing and take no shit about it.

[–]EsTp4life 10 points11 points  (10 children)

2pac went through the exact same thing


[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 9 points10 points  (9 children)

dude, 2pac is like an encyclopedia of trp truths. just listen to his lyrics and think about them, you'll get a completely new perspective on life. growing up i listened to pac's music and i learned a lot from it and the lessons i did learn all came out to be true.

[–]jazerac 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Elaborate more on this, I'm curious.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Second this. Give us your fav lyrics. Or start a new thread and link us.

[–]sefmz 0 points1 point  (5 children)


What is this?

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 2 points3 points  (3 children)

literally all of them. you won't get everything just from a few songs and granted many songs don't have girl related trp shit, but many of his songs are filled with stories from life. some about friendship, some about money, some about women, and many about life in general. he talks in many of his lyrics about how to be a real person and stay true to yourself. outside of that he does talk about drugs, thuggin, streets, violence, but all in the context of his experiences and what goes on in lives of those that live that through that.

one particular song talks about a toxic relationship and is just one truth after another. called Do For Love. it has many of the things often talked about in this forum.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Still a bitch for Kim though

[–]yodawg32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All Eyez on Me is the consensus of his best album

[–]2kevin32 2 points3 points  (1 child)

having tried the nice-guy approach and getting fleeced he was told by someone (can't remember who) to do the exact opposite and pay for absolutely nothing - then he started to get the results he wanted.

This is one of the things that baffles me about women. On the surface it would seem they want nothing to do with men who don't have money, but then you see stories like this. So how do you reconcile their gold-digging nature with paying for 'cheapskates'?

Other than attributing it to good looks and game, I haven't been able to piece together why they would pay for men who don't pay for anything. And these were prostitutes no less.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So how do you reconcile their gold-digging nature with paying for 'cheapskates'?

Alpha fucks, beta bucks.

I haven't been able to piece together why they would pay for men who don't pay for anything. And these were prostitutes no less.

Women have a DUALISTIC mating strategy. They'll pay for alpha men (or at the very least not need paying), while demanding beta men "have to pay because that's what real men do".

This shit has been going on since the dawn of time. Most men are fooled.

[–]cazbot 9 points10 points  (4 children)

It is possible to be red pill and married FYI. If I were on my throwaway I'd elaborate. Think Tony Soprano or John F Kennedy.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Tony Soprano = fiction.

John F Kennedy = before no-fault divorce.

[–]bumblebee_lol 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I mean I have a friend who is married and he is fucking other girls all the time and his wife either has no clue about it or doesnt want to leave him. He is very alpha, though.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Don't link your throwaway and your main account like this, delete this post.

And your point is "get a wife and cheat"? Sure, that's always an option but makes the marriage thing slightly ridiculous.

[–]bumblebee_lol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have a throwaway and no one knows my main account. And of course that was not my point I am not saying do it, personally I wouldn't cheat on my wife. He is certainly the trophy husband, though, so I think even If the wife knew she would probably stay with him.

[–]digitalbitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His wife died of tuberculosis.

[–]comptejete 49 points50 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Feynman married his high school girlfriend and she died of tuberculosis in her 20s. A sad turn off events. He probably never stopped loving his first wife. Makes it a bit easier to take the pill when you're not able to put women on the pedestal.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

The master of ceremonies. Get the iBook, and listen in the car definitely worth the money.

[–]body_massage_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Which one are you referring to? I've never heard of this book, but when you Google it, a few different results come up.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Something to keep in mind though (from the final lines of the chapter, bold emphasis mine):

But no matter how effective the lesson was, I never really used it after that. I didn't enjoy doing it that way. But it was interesting to know that things worked much differently from how I was brought up.

In other words, Feynman was Blue Pill all the way, then had a Red mentor briefly show him what was up... Ever the scientist he tried out the new hypothesis, saw that it worked (and that his old model of reality was in fact inaccurate), and yet, at the end of the day, he admits: despite the fact that it (Red Pill tactics) WORKED, he just couldn't shake his lifelong Blue Pill indoctrination / brainwashing. Ultimately, he just "didn't enjoy doing it that way" (negging women down in order to get into their pants).

Updating the worldview: it's a bitch.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I completely understand, though. How fucking awesome would it be if the most beautiful women always went for the men who fell in love with them and treated them like a queen? How great would it be if the more often you texted her the more she texted you? How cool would it be if the less attention you got from other women the more attracted to you she was?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy shit that would be unbelievable fucking terrible

[–]seeing-red- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're misreading: he enjoyed the hunt rather than using that specific, easy strategy.

[–]BrenzoG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fascinating guy, fascinating book.

[–]FoxMcWeezer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is no question the red pill works. The only thing that is wrong with it is that it hurts people's feelings when it's revealed they've been figured out.

[–]AshyBoneVR4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can confirm, being a gentleman in New Mexico will get you absolutely nowhere.

Source: Lives in New Mexico.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Surely you must be joking Mr. Feynman.

[–]mikehillfin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great example from a real life great man and remember fake it till you make it!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was a very fascinating person. That entire book is full of interesting anecdotes.

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[–]paperanch0r 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe, but I feel like the theory behind it is still relevant and compatible to the real world.

[–]lodro 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To be fair most people are idiots.