Maximize your power and the sex will come (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]alexander_the_groovy 166 points167 points  (15 children)

Everything is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.

  • Oscar Wilde

[–]Horus_Krishna_5 34 points35 points  (10 children)

first comes money then comes power then comes women

[–]mummersfarce_is_done 19 points20 points  (2 children)

First comes money then comes women then you get divorce raped.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This. Be careful red-pillers.

[–]slay_it_forward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First comes the beta provider, then comes the gold-digging whore, then comes the beta getting blind-sided with divorce rape.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

No, first comes self-development, then comes social intelligence, social power and then money and women in some linear combination over time.

[–]lodro 48 points49 points  (0 children)

No, first comes arguing on the internet, then comes arguing on the internet, and that culminates in arguing on the internet.

[–]Horus_Krishna_5 1 point2 points  (2 children)

yeah I shouldn't say first comes money like that magically comes out of nowhere with no effort

[–]theONE843663 2 points3 points  (1 child)

First comes an idea that like a cancer grows which may manifest itself in physical form.

[–]RPFlame 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You know that's true when you overhear women who decided to settle (30+ decline) talking about how they wish to find a rich man to provide for them.

I happened to hear such discussion when I was a kid, but couldn't connect the dots before TRP. If anything I found it "completely normal" because "you need food to eat, and not just love".

[–]alexander_the_groovy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The dual mating strategy is well-documented and effective.

[–]ialdabaoth 99 points100 points  (50 children)

My current salary: $6,250 twice a month.

Each paycheck, $2,500 comes off the top to the government. $3,750 goes into my bank account. $1,250 of that goes into my checking account; I live on it for two weeks. $2,500 goes into my savings account. I only touch it when something fucks up (like my car getting totaled by a psycho ex).

I started my job seven months ago, flat broke. I've now got $15,000 in savings, a year lease on a 4-bedroom house on top of the Berkeley hills, a zippy little two-seater convertible to cruise down the coast in, and a workshop in my garage with a 3D printer, a full set of woodworking tools, a drill press, and I'm working on a backyard forge.

By summer 2017, I intend to take $35,000 in savings to the Big Island in Hawaii, buy a little plot on the south side of the volcano, and build an off-grid vacation bungalow from scratch.

Still haven't got laid in 8 months.

[–]CalPolyJohn 36 points37 points  (12 children)

A couple things I noticed...

1) nice job making that much money 2) why would a single guy want to pay the rent for a 4 bedroom house in the Bay Area? Just because you can afford more doesn't mean you need to spend more. That is a ton of money you could be saving toward investments and financial independence.

[–]ialdabaoth 22 points23 points  (7 children)

I've got 3 roommates who share the rent with me, even though I could manage it on my own. I'm effectively the chief, and I've hand-picked roommates who will (generally) defer to my expertise and vision - I'm working on building an environment where I can maintain my frame effortlessly at home, before I try to take it out into the wild.

[–]skylive2 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Defer? What is this nonsense. Treat them like people or they are going to realise what a complete fraud you are.

[–]ialdabaoth 42 points43 points  (2 children)

I damn well do treat them like people.

They are 20-something Bay Area tech nerds, and I am a 42 year old man with literally twice their life experience. They are here because they WANT to learn from me. They explicitly ASKED me to come be part of this.

Learn to make better assumptions.

[–]TheWardylan 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That's a pretty cool arrangement. I wish I had an older Alpha type to learn from.

[–]skylive2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So it's more like a work arrangement. In which case, fair enough. Not at all would most people would assume when you say 'roommates' though.

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[–]ialdabaoth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm terribly insecure and often suicidal. Having other people around is a safety net.

[–]50red 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Maybe he was hoping to get roommates for social proof, etc. This sort of pleasing personality approach usually doesn't work.

OP, do you have goals or do you have systems?

[–]hiphoprising 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Uh oh asking the Scott Adams questions here

[–]50red 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah, the dude has lots of goals, lots of whats, but what are his whys?

It's like thinking that getting a Lambo will get you instantly laid. You finally get it, cruise around the city, and still go home alone.

He has the money part figured out. Time to work on the inner game to compliment the Benjamins.

[–]ialdabaoth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correct, which is why I'm building an environment where learning inner game won't distract me from the successes I've already achieved.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (24 children)

Fuck that's a lot of money. What do you do if you don't mind me asking?

[–]ialdabaoth 9 points10 points  (23 children)

Internal tool development for a Bay Area tech startup.

It's technically a software job, but most of my expertise comes from not listening to my supervisors, figuring out what the other employees actually need, and then building it for them. Which means that the CTO and the CEO love me, so I can continue to basically do my own thing.

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[–]ialdabaoth 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Yeah. It takes a weird combination of empathy and cynicism.

So, first, a parable:

There was this research project involving monkeys. Research projects involving monkeys are usually awesome and hilarious just by themselves, but this one also produced a super important result. But first, the awesome and hilarious setup:

Shove a bunch of monkeys in a room, put a bunch of bananas hanging from the ceiling, stick a ladder under the bananas, point a fire hose at the ladder. Whenever monkeys start to climb the ladder to get at the bananas, hose every motherfucking monkey down with the firehose, whether they were on the ladder or not.

Predictably, the monkeys will start beating the shit out of any monkey that goes near the ladder, no matter how hungry they all are.

Now, feed them some kibble and repeat. Do this a few times until the monkeys have all got it fully ingrained into monkey culture that ladder = beating. Then disconnect the hose.

The monkeys don't know the hose is disconnected, of course, so they keep beating the shit out of any monkey that goes near the ladder.

Swap out a monkey for a fresh monkey, one that never got hosed. What's he do? He makes a bee line for the ladder, because hey! Bananas! (The scientists DID remember to throw out the old nasty-ass bananas and put up fresh ones.) What do the other monkeys do? beat the shit out of him, of course.

Next day, swap out ANOTHER old hose-monkey for a fresh non-hosed monkey. What's he do? Beeline for the ladder! What do they do? Beat the shit out of him!

Repeat this process until there isn't a SINGLE monkey in the pack who EVER got the hose. And then, put in a new monkey.

They STILL beat the shit out of him. Why? Because "that's how we do it here!"


What's the point of that lesson?

When you look around you in an office, you'll see a LOT of stuff that's just... stupid. Stuff that makes no goddamn sense, wastes money, and makes everyone miserable.

Some of that stuff is there because someone's got a hose pointed at the office, and will punish everyone if they try to make an improvement.

But OTHER stuff is there because, a long time ago, someone USED to have a hose pointed at the office, but they're long gone - and still, the monkeys beat up anyone that could get them the bananas, because "that's how we do things around here."

Learn to say "fuck that" and pay attention.

Sometimes someone has a hose pointed at everybody for a good reason - maybe some improvements actually come at a steep cost somewhere else in the organization - but more often than not it's just because someone wants to make a dick-print on the office environment and has the power to do so. Trust me, you don't wanna cross those guys.

But again, sometimes there's just... no reason to do the dumb thing anymore.

So learn to keep your eyes open, and notice all the little things that could be improved, and then look a step deeper and notice all the things that actually CAN be improved without your ass getting fired for trying.

And then come in and do one of them. There's this dog-and-pony show where you have to do some kind of analysis and "show your work" and make it look like you're doing it for your boss, but if you just do it you can often just fucking wing that part. The real analysis you need is in cost savings - be able to PROVE that the change you made saved the company money, and someone with a high six-figure salary will notice you. Do it with a minimum of personal effort, and you've just bought a ticket out of loserdom.

I'd strongly recommend reading Venkatesh Rao's "Gervais Principle" stuff before trying any of this, though, and cross-correlating with the relevant bits from "The 48 Laws of Power".

[–]ialdabaoth 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Oh, and some caveats:

You need to prove that the change you made saved the company money, but don't think that they're letting you get away with it because you saved them money. No, they're letting you get away with it because you back up your actions. You buck the status quo, they challenge you, you throw down figures like a boss. The "proof" is just a prop you need to be able to stare down the first guy that challenged you, and say "your challenge is stupid and you should feel bad, I saved this company $3 million dollars so unless you can pony up that much cash, you have to back down and eat shit for challenging my initiative". That gets people's attention.

(Obviously don't SAY "back down and eat shit" unless you're in some boiler room money market firm; most companies reward people who 'play the game' and playing the game involves corpspeak and feigning civility while emasculating your competition.)

[–]PM_ME_UR_BDSM_PICS_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah. Literally shit on the conference table and tell him to eat it

[–]Kolbykilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I gotta say the way you explained it was really fascinating. I see shit like what you described all the time in my industry as someone fairly young in an industry full of old timers. People just do exactly what they're taught by someone else and that person is taught by someone else and so on an so forth until you get to a point to where there is no critical thinking being done on WHY we do things, and how they can be improved until shit hits the fan and either you cut off the waste or go under as a company. But thanks for your comment, it defintely motivated me to be more aware of whats (and why its) going on day to day in my company.

[–]Strike48 -1 points-1 points [recovered]

Learn to program. Get a 4 year Software Engineering or Computer Science degree from a state university.

[–]ialdabaoth 12 points13 points  (14 children)

Yeah fuck that. I don't have a degree and I'm glad I don't. Most of the kids around me with CS degrees don't know how to problem-solve. They know algorithms, they know something they call UX design, but they don't know how to figure out the right solution to the problem.

You want to learn to program? Fucking learn to program. It's just like lifting but for your brain. Go download some open video game like Kerbal Space Program, set up a github account, and start coding. Once you've proven that you can do something useful, download an Android dev kit and build yourself your own mobile app.

You don't need some shitty 4 year degree to 'prove' that you can code. I spent 10 years as a tech lead, and I will tell you that if you come to me with an app that works and does something useful, and you walk me through the trickiest part of the function library, and I will fucking hire you on the spot, no interview.

And anywhere that needs to ask you bullshit algorithm questions after vetting your CSE credentials isn't a place you want to work for, anyways.

[–]Strike48 5 points5 points [recovered]

Yeah, he should learn to program. Obviously, that's the skill required. Whoever is seeking work in software should learn to program and if they can afford it go to school as well. Yeah, we all love the "lel college is bullshit" circle jerk, but let's be real. In stem they're still useful and will increase your odds of finding work. I'm glad it worked out for you without a degree, but times are changing and competition is increasing. If you can tip the table towards your favor then you do it.

[–]ialdabaoth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but I'm telling you right now that in my cohort, the guys who dropped out of college to join a tech startup are outperforming the guys who stuck it through to get a CS degree. The key is to actually do something - build a useful app, write a fun game, be someone that people can hang a story on.

I got in the door at my last gig before this one because I wrote mods for Kerbal Space Program, and my boss's son played that game, so I was instantly more than just some guy with a degree from a random college - I was the guy that kept his son entertained and educated for hundreds of hours. And it didn't matter that I only wrote a tiny bit of code for the game, he anchored me to his son being happy, and bam - I've got the job.

[–]HansxxGruber 2 points2 points [recovered]

I'm 25 and REALLY debating on starting school next month for an IT networking security program at a state school. Yae or nae?

[–]Nymdox 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Only if you can angle it toward security and forensics. Network admin pays OK but caps out lower than some other disciplines. Security and forensics has a much higher ceiling.

[–]HansxxGruber 1 points1 points [recovered]

Thanks for the tip. I'll try to find the best option that includes true security w/forensics and not just network protection.

A lot of these tv-commercial "colleges"(Mildred Elley, Bryant and Stratton, online schools etc.) offer Cyber Security certificate programs, but I want to go to school for the most worthwhile degree and education that's both the most applicable AND lucrative in the IT security field.

[–]ialdabaoth 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Network security is a good field, but minor in psychology.

Then when you graduate, emphasize that you took psych courses to understand social intrusion techniques, and leverage yourself into a more senior position from the get-go.

Also, if you're 25, and you're going to a state school with a bunch of 18 to 22 year olds, leverage that. Take an Intro to Java class, then get a DBA-level business license and set up a consulting business. Find some good six week long projects that will pay $50 an hour, then hire 19 year old CSE students who are just starting out in Java classes. Tell him you'll pay him $20 an hour to tutor him, when really all you're doing is letting him do all the schlepp work and correcting his rookie mistakes and pocketing half the money. (This works best if your college has Java classes with an end-of-semester final project - you set it up so that your student's project is the actual deliverable to the client, which will impress the hell out of the teacher.)

Everyone wins.

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 0 points1 point  (3 children)

when you graduate, emphasize that you took psych courses to understand social intrusion techniques

That's nonsense IMO. Rest of your post seems sound though

[–]BreathOfDick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before investing in it, do some research and read about it to figure out if you're really interested after that. For this field I imagine they'd be pretty serious about you having a degree to prove that you know fundamentals

[–]patrick_simpson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This attitude is getting old and is becoming very cliche. A 4 year degree is not useless even if you want to be a programmer. It tells me that you have stability in your life and you can finish commitments and won't jump at any new opportunity that is shiny. It also shows that you can focus and accomplish a long term goal.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

How many times a week are you lifting? What is your BF?

[–]ialdabaoth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

BF's currently at 15%.

I'm currently lifting way less than I should (roughly once per week) but I spend a lot of time in between lugging around metal / lumber / etc., so I don't know what to cash that out to.

[–]BreathOfDick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Diet is most important anyways. On here most guys seem to push for you to go full Ironman size in order to attract women.

[–]ialdabaoth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I'm reasonably above-average physique (which isn't hard to do), but not 'cut', which around here translates to "skinny-fat" - and I'm still getting less play than actual fat slobs.

[–]okiedokie321 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Inspirational, especially the last bit. Well done!

[–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Uhh hey it's me, an attractive female. How you doin?

[–]cs_throwawayyy 1 points1 points [recovered]

It could be because of the bay area. I don't see that many attractive girls here.

[–]ialdabaoth 1 point2 points  (3 children)

They're here, they're just dating fat jobless losers and telling me that I'm not in their league. (I am particularly baffled and frustrated by this tonight)

[–]cs_throwawayyy 1 points1 points [recovered]

then hide your status bro. Never present yourself as another tech guy making good money. Be the fun unpredictable bad boy. If they see your wealth, then you're easily categorized as a provider.

[–]ialdabaoth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah I tried that, too. When I do unpredictable, somehow it dials in as actually scary. There's something I haven't got right, and so far I don't have any positives so I don't know what to improve on.

[–]mikazee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Advice on finding a good job? Not necessarily your job, but any job that pays well and isn't terminally boring (assuming that part is feasible). I'm currently getting a math degree (minor in Comp Sci) and I want to hit the ground running.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 60 points61 points  (4 children)

This is wrong.

Not in its assessment, because sex often DOES follow from health and wealth.

It's wrong because you're suggesting that guys wait until they are powerful before they begin approaching women.

The only way to develop confidence and social and sexual intelligence is through practice. That only happens when you hit on chicks, get rejected, and realize that it's not all that bad.

You don't need to be loaded or jacked to flirt with girls, and you shouldn't wait until your loaded or jacked to start.

Too many guys use "self-improvement" as an excuse to avoid confronting their approach anxiety and fear of rejection. If you wait until you're a millionaire to hit on girls, then you'll just be an awkward millionaire. Get out there and do it now, a little bit every single day.

[–]Nespos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I made a comment quite a while back that agrees with and expands on your view a bit:

I don't buy the "I'll improve other areas of my life and then I'll have success with women." approach either. It's like saying "I'll improve my grades in these other classes and my chemistry grade will improve." Or "I'll try harder at work and read more, and that will lead to my physical fitness improving." No. If you want to improve in chemistry, you work on that subject. If you want to be more physically fit, you get your ass to a gym and stop eating based on whether you have nothing else to do. And if you want success with women/a girlfriend you actively pursue environments and situations which put you in the position to achieve that. "Focusing on other areas" is another way of saying "I want to stay in my comfort zone and hope these women can smell my success and ambition from the bathroom at the bar." The truth is, one night out where you insist on interaction (and accept being uncomfortable doing it) will do a metric shitload more for you than your promotion or your ability to "almost dunk, like, I can grab the rim comfortably now." Confidence, whether we want to believe it or not, does not come in an all-purpose form; it has to be cultivated within the context where you want it applied. Any successful guy who goes out and approaches new women for the first time can tell you that, probably after a little shudder.

Tl;dr: finding a gf without working on that goal specifically is like expecting an item from Amazon without ever placing the order.

Edit: You guys raised some good points. I fully support self-improvent; I just wouldn't advise it hindering going out/dating. If you include your skills with women in your concept of self-improvent, you're doing it right.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fantastic comment! The male hamster is real.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not being buff makes the rejection rate higher. I'm getting #s but no followups. The occasional lay (rare). 1 routine fuck buddy. It might not last long. I'm tall. Financially independent. Good looking. Got a semi-rebel look going on (plan to get tats) and girls just don't follow up. I approach when I'm out on errands. Social proof has been my 100% success rate (friends, parties, reputation). Day game without social proof has been like a 1% success. (random women as I meet them).

From every blog I follow there has always been a critical factor in improved f-closes's: scene (clubs) and being fit. Since my lifestyle is not club-oriented being fit is my priority for 2017 and I would suggest that men go and be fit to increase their chances. Otherwise, stick to approaches in the social circle in the mean time.

[–]WeightsNCheatDates 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This is nothing new. Regardless, solid post.

[–]ismetrix 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Love it! I came up with my system to work but i named them money,health and social circle... im going to steal the wealth health and stealth.

I broke down wealth in savings money and making money,broke down health to mental and physical and broken down stealth by social circles and personal relationships.

That way i can work one bite at a time because 12years ago when i am 18,i realized wealth,health and stealth is important for a smooth journey in life.

Thanks again for this post... it really validates my life strategy and gave me a nice name to it.

[–]Wolffy93 14 points15 points  (13 children)

Rich Dad Poor Dad has taught me some many things I've wished I learned earlier than the age of 23. Good book.

[–]Project_Thor 3 points4 points  (8 children)

do you know where I can find a book summary?

[–]westernflows 15 points15 points [recovered]

I would honestly read the whole book. It's not a difficult read / listen. I personally do audio books.

Also- if you're in a position where you make good money but don't know how to manage it, read "I Will Teach You To Be Rich" by Ramit Sethi. Read it when I was 23, followed his steps in the book, at 24 I currently own my own condo. Seriously- that book changed the way I manage my money.

OP mentioned the whole saving 20% per pay cheque thing, but if you want more details, read that book.

PS- if you're Canadian- after reading it, a good follow up is "Stop Over Thinking Your Money." Forgot the author now but anyone needs I can go check.

[–]Hung_Chad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, that 20% figure is a minimum starting point. If you can stand to save a higher percentage without destroying your enjoyment of life, do it and reap the benefits in later years.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just read it, takes like 3 hours

[–]Vladz0r 0 points1 point  (1 child)


FightMediocrity has a bunch of summaries on his channel. It's still probably worth checking it out the full books, or looking up some of the top points in any given video he makes. Like in the 7 Habits of Highly Successful People, most of them are pretty self-explanatory, but the the 5th law is pretty nuanced and worth looking up, and the 7th has a bunch of interesting facets.

[–]Wolffy93 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not a clue. I just walk into Books A Million and start reading. I can't afford to buy any of these books yet.

[–]Llurtle 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Great book. Check out wallstreetplayboys.com for the best personal finance tips and overall consistent views with TRP.

I've automated all of my finances to where credit cards get paid off immediately while racking up the most amount of points. Also, at the end of every month my excess cash flow gets swept into an investment account (not savings as this is a surefire way to not get wealthy). That way I have enough money to live well but not so much that I end up blowing on stupid things. Worst case scenario if I am short on cash I can sell a very small portion of my investments which is no big deal.

[–]Wolffy93 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Learning about financial literacy.

Working on turning all my non-physical assets, skills I suppose, into money making tools. Backend royalties from music, leases, mp3s, etc. Don't know if 23 is too young to start investing and / or saving but started doing so already. Have a lot of credit card debt to pay off first though.

[–]Llurtle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pay off CC debt before you start investing. Other than that no age is too young.

[–]Casanova-Quinn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to tell you but Rich Dad Poor Dad is not a good finance book. The author is also associated with MLM schemes. Just google "Rich Dad Poor Dad review" and you'll find lots of articles exposing the bad or false advice that the book contains.

[–]lolligagger3000 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Ok Cap, I've read all your 15 posts and really liked them, but I think you should tell us your story now, what made you go on this marathon of TRP?

[–]CaptainCringeworthy 29 points29 points [recovered]

My posts have been the culmination of a year of collecting data, doing fieldwork, analyzing, and interpreting. I didn't write all my posts in one night, this took months to come up with. I didn't realize TRP existed until recently, and when I saw a community where I could release my content, regardless of its controversy, and receive feedback, I felt elated and decided to get everything I had out there. I was excited to get feedback, to see if my experiences other people experienced. I felt joy in the fact I could help others with advice from what I have encountered. I enjoy helping others, learning from others, getting feedback, and giving feedback. I believe part of life's purpose is to have a positive impact on your community. And through TRP, I could implement a positive impact to the masses of Red Pillers. I don't have any more posts queued so my publishing rate will slow down dramatically, but I will comment on other's posts and contribute in any way I can.

[–]lolligagger3000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't really understand the hate, I actually think your posts are really cool and give some valuable insight

[–]IBAR_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Money and power are somewhat positively correlated but money alone and sex are weakly negatively correlated. I'm exhibit A of having a vastly better sex life in college as a student-athlete than when I was a junior trader making ~25X what I scraped together in college.

I have no idea why people don't discard the blue pill notion that money and sex are positively correlated.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A lot of this is common sense.

  • Be wealthy.
  • Be in shape.
  • Be charismatic.

We all owe it to ourselves to do our best to be all three things for sure.

[–]memphisjohn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

[–]masterpiece00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aren't most businesses and entrepreneurs only starting or starting to peak in their 40's?
Wont the majority of people these days be stuck with xxxx dollars of student debt, that is hardly wealth regardless what their job pays them.?

And most importantly, the definition of power from the Rational Male:
"Real Power is the degree to which a person has control over their own circumstances. Real Power is the degree to which we control the directions of our lives."

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Good stuff.

Have a question though. How much you earn and how many chicks you bang a year (on average)?

[–]scottbrio 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This question is irrelevant.

Make as much money as you can, and bang as many chicks as you can/want to.

Whether this advice gets you from $20k a year to $50k, or $150k to $1.5M a year, it's good advice.

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This question is irrelevant.

I think it is relevant.

First I should define what I mean by "a lot of money" and "a lot of chicks".

Money wise I would think that being in top 10% (at least 20%) of net worth in one's age bracket, would be objectively considerate a lot of money;

Chick wise, this is more subjective, but the ability to fuck 24+ (2 a month) new chicks a year would be a lot, and with out a doubt one would have vast experience compared to an average guy.

I define these for argument sake.

Now to the point.

Op's argument is "Make money and women will come." So, if the guy makes a lot of money and bang a lot of chicks it's safe to say that his argument is correct, has value an is worth fallowing.

If he doesn't make a lot of money, but bangs a lot of chicks or makes a lot of money, but does not bang a lot of chicks, then his argument is invalid. Money alone does not correlate to one's ability to bang chicks (EDIT: u/ialdabaoth anecdotal experience confirms this)

All that said, does this post sound like a reasonable good advice? Yes, it does. It sounds like so many mainstream feel good, be successful advice. It would be really nice to hear from someone's personal experience, does this advice hold.

Did op spend last 10 (or whatever) years putting maximum effort in to making money/power and zero into chasing pussy and he actually gets loads of chicks?

I'm not saying he didn't, I'm only asking if he did.

[–]scottbrio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair points!

What say you OP?!

BTW I'll update when I'm rich and see how things change. I've had pretty good numbers over the last few years but am not rich. Things may change shorty- I'll report back when I get some hard data LOL

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

But if you live frugally and max out retirement savings, your wealth won't be visible until you retire. So would it really help to get women? Wouldn't showing your money off get more women? For example, living in an upscale apt or home rather than a small decent one.

That said, I'm all for being very frugal. I just don't think it would help with women.

[–]onmyownpath 5 points5 points [recovered]

Make more money. Never stop improving, increasing, and getting better.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

For sure, I agree. I'll be living very poor though until I have my debt paid off and investing fully in retirement won't be the majority of my income

[–]LiteSoul 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Could you expand our clarify this two points?:

1) avoid isolation 3) avoid the unhappy and unlucky.

[–]scottbrio 6 points7 points  (0 children)

1- be social, do fun things

3- Those people in life or online that constantly complain about how shitty their life is or how hard they have it, life's not fair, "must be nice", angry all the time, etc. Avoid them like the plague. Unfollow them. Misery loves company, and like a black hole, they'll suck you in if you let them. Negativity is like a virus- it effects your whole life, your health, your success, and your motivation directly.

[–]Kaizen77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ehh... it's not rocket science. It simple, not easy. But be willing to take chances in life, if you F up, so what. The bravery to be your true self, self-confidence, and a strong work ethic will get you most everything in life.

[–]_TheRP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On wealth - living within your means is important, but saving your way to being rich is needlessly hard and pretty stupid.

The reality is you can only cut expenses down so far, whereas there is no real limit to how much you can make.

Simply put - earn more.

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Very interesting perspective on the power paradigm. I might ad that wealth, health and stealth are all results of mastering the basic principle of power; control. A man may have complete control over his life, but lack wealth, health or stealth as OP defines them. Think of the lone wanderer who spends his days travelling. Maybe he's living in a van and selling art at beach side venues. He may not be the richest, healthiest and most charismatic person, but he controls his life. Now think of a man in control of his destiny, one who possesses health, wealth and stealth. He is far more powerful.

[–]TheRedPillMan1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only thing I'd add is that the pursuit of pussy should be a hobby and not a goal in life or you'll finish both broke and sexless.

[–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, also known as LMS - Looks, Money and Status

[–]skippwiggins -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sex is easy. If you're a stud you dont even have to try. Go to the bar and women buy you drinks and hump all over you. If youre a loser just fake it till u make it and you can still get pussy on speed dial. Power well I havent figured that one out.

[–]DonaldBaelish -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Stopped reading when I saw "the fitness subreddit".

Bodybuilding my boy.