I'm have a ton more success now with women at 28 than I did in my teens and early 20's. Is that because I've improved my game? Or is that because women closer to my age are looking to settle down?

2comment · 2018-12-01T06:51:49+00:00

Try 20 year olds. If you can't snag them, you got your answer.

Saberinbed · 2018-12-01T08:23:11+00:00

Women are way more desireable and in demand at the age of 18-26. If you’re a dude at that age, you’re competing with the prime time of women at that age. There is no way you could get the same amount of attention from the opposite sex as women at that age.

The advantage that men have over women is that after 26, they suddenly increase in demand, and they stay high basically into your 40s. For women, its all downhill when you reach your late 20s.

Andgelyo · 2018-12-01T08:32:44+00:00

Dude it's the extra experience. Imagine if 18 year old you had your mind.

Velebit · 2018-12-01T12:45:37+00:00

Women at diferent phases are attracted by different things, relevance by order: Early teens: genes (hair, face), interaction (humor), compatibility (interest)

Late teens: genes (face, hair, height), provide and protect (social status), interaction (humor, conversation), compatibility (interests, goals)

Early 20s: provide and protect (muscle, social status), genes (height, face, hair, beard), interaction (conversation, humor), compatibility (goals, interests)

Late 20s provide and protect (status, muscle, property), genes (height, beard, face), interaction (conversation), compatibility (goals)

30s provide and protect (status, property, muscle), compatibility (goals), interaction, genes

40s and after provide and protect (property, status, muscle), compatibility, interaction

It ends that way.

Evolutionarily. A young girl can rely on her parents and tribe and needs only concern with genes, a woman that has failed to snatch a gifted innocent prince now has to find a workhorse to provide and protect.

This is why muscles and size pay off for older females as they literally get moist off the idea of being protected (as a woman aged 24 still single had only about 10-15 years to live and already failed) while a young female will usually not give a bald/ing dude a chance because that signals poor testosterone metabolism.

So female evolution dictates what they desire. Genes in teens, services later, and stuff when old.

trpboy123 · 2018-12-01T07:14:47+00:00

A man's peak is usually around 28-30. It only gets better from now on. Keep improving yourself

frequentlywrong · 2018-12-01T08:08:01+00:00

Both probably.

peacemakerzzz · 2018-12-01T09:49:33+00:00

I’m 25, my game has improved since reading about red pill philosophy. I would say it’s better than my earlier 20s but it’s not enough to attract the top tiers. Still have a long way to go in terms of self improvement, affluence and capacity to provide. Women know this intuitively, yet they appreciate men who display good frame despite lack of said terms (affluence, status, etc.) Game-wise, I’m better than most of the men in my age group solely because my knowledge of red pill praxeology has provided me with the tools and proper skill set to good game.

I think despite the fact that women are at their peak in my age group now, gaming is invariably encouraged still. At 25, the second most important thing next to keeping frame is to remember that rejection is always better than regret. In game, experience gets men to a certain point where he is able to learn from his mistakes, and capitalise on opportunities to seize and lay. Better to get rejected at 25 than applying game at 28 when affluence is more evident just because he is in demand at that age.

I still have a long way to go, but a head start I have amongst men my age. Sorry for the ramble, just wanting to share my insights.

sasquatch_pants · 2018-12-01T08:20:38+00:00

Its because your body is grown in more. Well established in your job. Overall the closer you are to 30 the better.

rektum_expander · 2018-12-01T10:26:46+00:00

People grow into their confidence.

Needimprovenentguy · 2018-12-01T11:26:30+00:00

Life experience

TheStumblingWolf · 2018-12-01T09:49:35+00:00

I dunno about you but when I think back to when I was 20 I can't believe I had a girlfriend, even if she didn't have any other options. I was so immature it was ridiculous.

downvotesanimals · 2018-12-01T08:01:24+00:00

Can you not at least tell that your game has improved in that time?

As I recall I think my game improved by a factor of 10 between ages 20 and 28...

masterpiece00 · 2018-12-01T13:09:50+00:00

Basically they are done riding the cock carousel\one night stands with bad boys and want a baby yesterday - they'd see you as a responsible safe dad type, possibly with money to support them.

eye8yourbaby · 2018-12-01T12:22:15+00:00

I’m 28 too and for some reason only attract women in their mid/late 30s (tinder/bumble etc). Hooked up with a few and it’s because they’re desperate and hit the wall, no matter the looks. Some look 10 years younger. I doubt it’s game because I lack it a lot. Also I am a 6’4” giant man not a boyish Chad these younger girls want.

Greats lays compared to younger imo, just wrap it and bring your own rubber, they’re desperate for your cum which is a blessing in disguise. I’ve started to game people who look my age or younger and started to get numbers. Making my way up to convo then bed. It’s as simple as sacking up and chatting,

donkeydodo · 2018-12-01T12:44:54+00:00

I suppose it could partly be because of improved game, but I'd also like to add other things to the equation; firstly, a man can only grow in value, whereas women de-value, because women rely on looks whereas looks is just a 'happy bonus' for men, who instead rely not just on looks but also on more things, like social status and money. If you have a good job, and look fit and like a clean person, you'll be able to attract girls. Men also mature longer than woman hormonally (any biologist can correct me if I'm wrong) and because of this, as you get older you'll apear wiser automatically, more laid back / cool in general - especially if you've learned Redpill philosophy.

Another factor is that men that are in their early 20's are rarely settled. What this means is that there's a risk that the man live with his parents, plus he might not have a stable enough job yet to be worthy of being their supplier. At 28, one has usually started to get a hold of one's own life and this is attractive, both to women and men. Adding to this is that when you've yourself become settled, the next step in the biological order would be to find a woman to produce one's offspring; women are the same on this point as well.

AshyLarry27 · 2018-12-01T13:24:44+00:00

It is both. With age comes experience, right? Older women also realize they don't live in a college dorm surrounded by dudes they can go over to, bang, and then walk back. On top of that, everyone is working after college and become busier. What kind of 27+ year old chick is at college house parties? They are preparing to take what they can get in the shift of the new playing field (Bars, social get-togethers, weddings, and of course the Tinder apps of our day).

light-----------dark · 2018-12-01T16:37:59+00:00

I’m no expert, but did you take TRP in your early 20s?

healthfreak1012 · 2018-12-01T17:01:50+00:00

I just broke up with my 30 year old boyfriend. He has a great job, very fit hot body, but his personality is terrible and he lacks maturity, we can't have it all

chazthundergut · 2018-12-01T15:44:37+00:00

I'm 30 and I've never had so much pussy. There's a naked 24 year old sleeping in my bed next to me as I type this.

The things that make a man attractive to women (power, status, confidence, money, experience) all increase with age as long as he stays on his purpose and stays fit.

The things that make a woman attractive to men (beauty, fertility) peak at age 18-20 and slowly decline from there.