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Never experienced the eyeball fucking thing (self.asktrp)

submitted by moneymakingmiguel

Quick intro - 23, close to getting my engineering degree, working on a startup, working out. I got shit to do in my day, but there are always those free hours I could be hitting something, but I'm not. Close to 0 experience with women. Wanted the 8s, could have the 4s and 5s, and my dumb ass figured it was better to get rejected by an 8, than to date a 4.

Went out with my alpha bro from highschool for the first time. Lemme tell ya, the mans hot, even I can tell that. Rugged 6'5 version of leonardo dicaprio. Good genes run thru his family, I've seen pics of his dad and his dads brother. Carpenter, will snap you in half if he doesn't like you. Everyone in the club was STARING at him, especially women. Some 20 year old jumped him while we were there and sucked his dick outside the club. Now that would be fine n all, but women from his surroundings are fighting over him, literally. Trying their best to take pics with him so they can post them on IG and show other women whos he with. The nudes, pussy is easy to this guy.

I genuinely like hanging out with him, and I'd like to scratch some of that lucky pussy powder off him, but my inexperienced ass doesn't know how. We both think the other ones luckier, my job can land me the big bucks, but I believe I'll hardly land any of that 8-9/10 pussy hes landing.

What I'm doing as of recently is taking care of my meals and working out more consistently. Anything else a non genetically gifted guy can do besides getting juicy as fuck?


[–]1redhawkes71 points72 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Learn game. Read the sidebar with the top 500 posts and recommended books.

Also, pay attention on clothes selection and most important, stop comparing to your friend.

[–]es142621 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

“Comparison is the thief of joy”

I feel it’s an important RP lesson. The only person you can change, and the only eyes you can live through are yours. Make your shot count for as much as it can.

[–]1redhawkes10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's true. When you compare to someone else, you'll always come the second best and develop inferiority complex.

This is because you compare in the areas you lack, not in the areas you are dominant. It's like comparing basketball player with surgeon. If the surgeon compares to the basketball player, of course he'll come second best and vice versa, but that doesn't make him inferior person.

Only compare to the man in the mirror. You can't be someone else, everyone else is already taken.

[–]LiftMeditateApproach 1 points [recovered]  (10 children) | Copy Link

Learn game. his good-looking and tall wingman didnt need any... so why would it help him?

[–]1redhawkes3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Where in the OP you've read that he's ugly? He said that he started lifting and dieting. Learning game is one of the most important assets in the SMV, he's already improving his looks. More than 90% of guys who came here lack game and discipline, not deformed. Tell me how improving SMV is going to do damage to their life.

if some ugly fat chick approached you and started to masterfully chit chat with you... would it make any difference whether you found her hot?

Depends on how drunk you're. /s

It's amazing how incels swallow the bait threads like this and immediately create circlejerk out of it. It's truly a phenomenon.

Stop wasting your time and clog the sub. Go whine somewhere else.

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's funny how your comment got downvoted, while it's on point with TRP's ideas.

The real sub is dead and even asktrp is slowly dying.

[–]1redhawkes3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't pay attention to the voting system. It means nothing.

The real sub is dead and even asktrp is slowly dying.

Best time to refresh yourself with the sidebar.

[–]LiftMeditateApproach 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

Where in the OP you've read that he's ugly?

no chick bothered to look at him at the club. nuff said.

He said that he started lifting and dieting.

being good-looking = means having a good-looking face... something that you are born with... no amount of reading self-improvement articles on internet is gonna change that.

body is irrelevant, especially when its covered up with clothes in 99% of social interractions.

this guy goes to gym daily to jerk off dumbells:

https://i.imgur.com/0677sEw.png

does he look pleasing to look at?

[–]1redhawkes-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You went full retard, only proving my point about incels.

[–]LiftMeditateApproach1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

how much time does the guy on the left need to spend self-improving, meditating and jerking off dumbells in order to become guy on right?

https://i.imgur.com/zCMgfiJ.jpg

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I take it your name is something of a parody of the advice regularly given round here, right? I also get tired of hearing boilerplate like that and sometimes I get in arguments because I didn't speak from the holy text verbatim.

You make compelling points friend but you are missing one thing. Game has its limits and it has been talked about. If the guy on the left has amazing game and so does the guy on the right, lefty will never overcome the other. If lefty is an extrovert and able to engage the entire room while excluding the guy on the right he can pull more than him. That is an extreme case and that is like top 5% of personalities that can do it.

In general game is meant to get guys out of their shell and increase the quality of girls they can get around 1 to 2 points on 1-10 scale. meaning, if you're a 5 unless you are a cult of personality you are not getting a 9 or a 10 in your life unless by pure dumb luck.

Game is still based in reality. There's only so much you can do. You can only build so much with what you have. A wood structure will never be as large or strong as a steel one.

[–]1redhawkes2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop wasting your time here, TRP can’t cure autism.

[–]Andgelyo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve spotted the lookism virgin lmao

[–]ShirDesEnzer1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

How can one read the posts when main sub is down?

[–]DoomzDayTurkey-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

what do you read from the sidebar exactly

[–]1redhawkes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everything

[–]TheBigPone18 points19 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

I'm gonna comment here because I haven't seen anybody talking about this, at least in my time lurking on TRP. There's something called Mewing that I discoved recently on the internet and it's supposed to improve the looks of your face by adjusting tongue posture and doing some exercises with the tongue now and then. I'm trying it and if you think you aren't genetically gifted you should at least give it a look. I've seem it from some guys that call themselves black pilled and they theorize heavily on how face, genetics and ethnicity influence you SMV. I'm not sure if people on this sub would agree on it, but I think it's interesting. There's a community about mewing that is not related to the manosphere with lots of videos on youtube with doctors giving advice.

It is supposed to take a long time and dilligence to get results, just like weightlifting. There's a lot of fake after and before pics on google, so I'm not sure if this works for real.

[–]Atheist_Utopia14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Works. My face improved marginally but by doing nothing but keeping my tongue on the roof of mouth which I was never taught.

[–]es14265 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Tongue up, teeth slightly clenched throughout the day to improve jawline.

Totally works, but by seriously little.

[–]D3NTONs3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

but by seriously little.

So, not significantly?

[–]es14264 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but without the drama.

[–]TheBigPone5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you keep your front teeth aligned as well or is just the tongue posture that is part of the method?

[–]Atheist_Utopia4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Not sure with what you mean by front teeth, but I keep all my teeth just about not touching each other as I have TMJ. As for the tongue, I make an N sound and keep it in that position.

[–]TheBigPone4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I got a little overbite but my teeth are ok, my doubt is because one the channels I saw teaching the correct posture also said to aling the front teeth (think of biting with your front teeth but still keeping them a little separate), but I haven't seen anything talking about alinging front teeth in other places.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

how long do changes take...or do you spend months looking like an idiot trying to hold his tongue in place? lol

[–]TheBigPone0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I read that if you're young the changes are quick, after 25 years of age it's something like 10 years for good results. It's not abnormal is just holding your tongue againts the top of your mouth, mouth closed. You can do it everyday at any time just like holding your head up right like you should for good posture.

It's also the same posture for tongue that is advised for meditation.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

wow, I've never heard of correct tongue position for meditating. Interesting.

[–]Greek-God-Brody2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

nd doing some exercises with the tongue now and then

Every now and then does not cut it. You have to do it close to 24/7, permanently, even during sleeping

[–]TheBigPone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, posture is 24/7 but I was refering to some specific exercises i saw to apply more pressure, like tongue chewing.

[–]Throwaway0302982 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does anyone have a good, comprehensive guide to mewing? I did some reading on it but I keep finding bits and pieces and some contradict each other, then some include stuff about swallowing, some don't.

[–]TheBigPone1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm gonna include the two main videos that motivated me to start mewing (I don't remember how this sub rules are for links, if is not okay i'll remove) Video 1: Doing Mewing (watch at 1.25x) https://youtu.be/Hmf-pR7EryY

Video 2: How to become more attractive - The power of TONGUE POSTURE https://youtu.be/l4rtJupcf60

Everything from the channel of the Video 1 is useful content related to mewing I believe, do a little dig up if you want more instruction.

[–]meme_poacher1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Name of sub?

[–]TheBigPone0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not a sub, it's a more of a youtube community. My response to the other guy on this thread include two links that you may find useful. (If you're looking for mewing or the black pill)

[–]lifeisweirdasfuck1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was hoping people of the blackpill forums not to come here on trp. I guess the day has come.

[–]TheBigPone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't even know they had a forum. I thought it was just some youtube channels. I'm not from there.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard a few things about this. I have been told I have a great jawline and two things I do could be attributed as "mewing". 1. I'm not a mouth breather. Breathe thru your fuckin nose. 2. I like to chew gum through out the day and have done it for years. Just do these things and you're essentially doing "mewing"... apparently.

[–]Andgelyo-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does this shit seriously work? I’ve heard about it while browsing lookism forum (do it for the lolz and see how crazy these virgins are lol). How does one do it correctly? I had a sick jawline when I was in high school but now that I’m older and higher body fat my jawline ain’t all that no more

[–]TheBigPone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been giving it a shot and hope it works. I posted two links earlier in this thread of videos giving instrucion on what is, how to do and some of the whys. Give it a check if you want.

[–]Levimeister7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean its nice to go out with your bro. But if you want to pull sth. In my opinion its not smart to go into a club with a better looking guy. U will always be compared to that. Go out alone or search for a buddy where u r the goodlooking one. hope u get where i am going.

[–]Greek-God-Brody5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Based.

Also, don't post pictures online with more good looking males alongside you.

[–]Joeboard26 points27 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Too many idiots on here are saying just work on your game, a 3 with good game will slay 9s no problem....

Attraction is a MUST. If you are lucky enough to be born looking like a greek god, then you have the upper hand forsure. You cant change the way you look, but you can change your appearance. Haircuts, shave, proper fitting clothes, etc will all help your image.

Alternatively, if your work your ass off and pull up to the club in a nice car, expensive suit, nice watch, you will also get women, but they will be more interested in the shit you can provide them than you personally.

[–]1redhawkes8 points9 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

a 3 with good game will slay 9s no problem....

This is whats wrong with you autistic incels. You can't think of something like a spectrum, you think binary.

If you've read the post, OP says that 4s and 5s are attracted to him, so he must be in the range of 6 at least. Add lifting, fitting clothes, grooming and game and he'll be in the 7-8 area.

You fucks always take the worst grotesque and compare to some guy with golden ratio face proportions. It doesn't work that way.

[–]laquicaaaa1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

yeah sure, you can be Lachowski from grooming and lifting

Game works only if there is initial attraction. In the end the woman asks "yeah but would I fuck him?" no matter how charismatic you are. I've seen it bars bro. Poor guy, balding, 5'7 absolutely no attractive features but can definitely make a girl laugh the whole night. And obviously he didn't get any. If had an average face and average height, well that would be interesting. I'd take a bet he'd get some.

Game does not trump looks ever. This is supposed to be a redpilled sub.

[–]1redhawkes1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Funny how all of this comments come from guys subscribed in incel communities.

yeah sure, you can be Lachowski from grooming and lifting

Put it in your head that you don't have to be model to slay. The world is not binary.

Game works only if their is initial attraction.

Be attractive, don't be unattractive. That's true, attraction is non negotiable, it'll open the door, but Game will get you in.

Game isn't acting like a clown, get that shit outta your head. Game is Frame.

Game does not trump looks ever. This is supposed to be a redpilled sub.

Yea, that's why you don't see incel shit about looks is everything here. Even more, this was ban worthy couple months ago. You incels need to find better ways to spend your time instead of echoing looks is everything and compare apples to oranges, no one gives a fuck really.

[–]laquicaaaa0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Put it in your head that you don't have to be model to slay. The world is not binary.

to slay means easy lays with good looking girls. You don't have to be Lachowski to slay (but decent looking obviously), I'm just saying grooming is not going to make someone who fucked up in the genetic lottery attractive because of his words, and how he says them.

Yea, that's why you don't see incel shit about looks is everything here. Even more, this was ban worthy couple months ago. You incels need to find better ways to spend your time instead of echoing looks is everything and compare apples to oranges, no one gives a fuck really.

Looks matter. Height matters. Frame matters. Status Matters. Money matters. Charisma matters. Character matters.

Also you admitted attraction is non negotiable yet you claim game trumps looks. Clarify?

[–]1redhawkes0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Also you admitted attraction is non negotiable yet you claim game trumps looks. Clarify?

Being attractive alone won't get you laid, what's there to be clarified. You're just going to stand like a pillar, avoid eye contact, not touch/escalate and fidget like a fishing line. Even if the chick was attracted to you in first place, you're going to dry up her pussy, and she's gonna bang a masculine guy who is not afraid to fuck her.

[–]laquicaaaa0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes that's what I have been saying.

If you are good looking enough she will throw yourself onto you which is what I have been seeing. Chad walks into a club, makes out in 2 minutes and takes her home. Game matters but it doesn't trump looks lmao.

[–]1redhawkes2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Chad walks into a club, makes out in 2 minutes and takes her home. Game matters but it doesn't trump looks lmao.

Again, incel fairytales. Get some experience first rookie.

[–]laquicaaaa-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay, so you have never seen a Chad make out in 2 minutes?

[–]D3NTONs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit. Why didn't you mention working out, mate? Get lean, 10% bodyfat and everything else muscle. Your face WILL improve since there won't be any fat covering your face, cheekbones, jawline, chin etc etc

[–]kap1pa-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ugh. So wrong. But for my sake and the people who realize it is ONLY game that matters keep telling yourself money and looks are more important.

[–]Joeboard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im not saying they are more important.. you have to understand how superficial women are, esp in their 20s, prewall

I see it all the time.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K187 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop comparing yourself to someone else. That's developing a really weak frame. You'll never be him...and there will always be people who seem like they are doing better than us. Remember, they all have problems, too.

It's easy to do, comparison...but devalidate that thinking. You're maybe doing it, because YOU haven't had success with women, yet. Once you do, the comparison will die away.

Read up on frame...create your own. You're living in his, right now. Live in yours.

Good looks are great...but it's all about frame, inner attitude, game. It takes work...and time...and self improvement. Let go of instant gratification, and work. Hell...you might end up being someone HE comes to, to work on whatever he needs.

Let go of the 'comparison' lie. A false core belief that we gain self esteem, by comparing to others. Total lie. We gain self esteem by working on ourselves...women are a by-product.

Read the side bar...read up on game and self-improvement. Abundance mentality. For that girl sucking his cock....there are hundreds in the club you could be gaming.

[–]Rkingpin2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The night out with your friend is hypergamy in action.

Even tho you two might be "bros" if you truly want pussy on a night out you cannot be with a man who's SMV is in a different league to yours.

You may get opened by girls, but they'll only be using you to get to your friend.

Find another clubbing partner or go solo

[–]Thisismybot82 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you considered avoiding the club all together? Get tinder and have a bitch come over and fuck you in the comfort of your home.

[–]Atheist_Utopia4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean by rugged?

[–]markinsinz711 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does it matter what rugged is. Dude has so much looks to be be on par with Leo di Caprio that's nuf said. He's slaying for life.

[–]HillsOfMars-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao why is picturing what op wrote making me giggle

[–]FanaticMind4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Masculine, tough looking.

[–]Atheist_Utopia4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

aka the guy is an überchad

[–]FanaticMind6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tbh I don't think it's wrong to label a 6'5 good looking muscular guy an uberchad. There are regular Chads but thats fucking crazy.

[–]justathrowaway14241 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’ll never attain his level of ease. But you can by learning to be socially attractive. If you’re not at least above average looking though then you’ll probably never succeed.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Mate, fuck off with your lookism incel shit. I get HB8-9 girls just because of my tight game. Learn it. Good luck!

[–]novalentineforyou4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Post a pic of your face

[–]mickey__-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How did you get good in game?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trial and error, failures, successes and using good experiences as reference-points.

[–]KingRead1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

U play the game

[–]Dreams_of_Conquest-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, even when I was 300 pounds of lard I was pulling HB7-8s because I didnt give a fuck if i got laid or not and I can make people laugh.

[–]masterpiece001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You actually think club sluts looking for dick is an indicator? They are hardly fine tuned specimens and most of them are 6's at best in night lights, most are there to compete with other whores and post locations on faceshit and get shitfaced.

Girls don't really care for looks that much and just because your friend is big doesn't make him Alpha.

Your job at best will make you beta bux, but if you don't get attention or sex now then be very suspicious when you are working and get someone interested.

[–]Kommanderdude 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

What I have learned here is that op is more than likely secretly gay for this alpha bro high school crush of his.

[–]james33741 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you in high school?

[–]mickey__0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

That’s what i asked about on my last post here. I think it’s not much about his look but about his vibe and aura, he has that ‘something’ about him that people usually catch on, what is it, have no idea

[–]omega_dawg937 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

that aura is called, "i don't give a fuck."

if OP adopted this aura and established his own vibe, he'd be getting easy pussy too... assuming he's got convo skills, decent game etc. he needs to walk in with his buddy but establish his own turf/aura. for example, he could be the guy that likes to dance etc.

plus at under 25, girls are horny and just want to fuck and laugh all the time. do not take ANYTHING they say seriously. in 10 yrs, OP won't recognize half of them due to weight gain etc and if they're still clubbing, the drugs and alcohol will REALLY fuck them up.

and guess what... that's the age he's in his prime years at 33 to 40 or so, career booming, own home, nice car, and choosing... bc now the 25 to 29 yr olds are tired of clubs and want to settle.

OP... don't settle. run dem bitches.

[–]justathrowaway14240 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Only works if youre already attractive

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

bullshit. it works every time if you've got your shit together and living your life on your terms.

women don't use looks as the only attractive trait. most women i know are attracted to guys for various reasons... their reasons.

what i find is that masculinity, confidence, and knowing who you are and what you stand for goes a long long way.

[–]justathrowaway1424 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

An ugly guy who does this is seen as creepy. I know a guy who has an I don’t give a fuck attitude. I went out with him once he danced next to girls and they literally ran away.

Looks is 80% of attractiveness to girls.

[–]justathrowaway14241 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It is his look. He’s attractive and tall. The vibe is he’s attractive as fuck and girls flock to him.

He could have beta behavior and girls will still flock to him.

[–]mickey__0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Im 6'5, considered good looking and have a nice style, not big but ripped and vascular, 23 virgin, my fault ofcourse. I do think that i have no vibe

[–]Thisismybot80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wear insoles and the right shoes to increase your height by 2+ inches so you don't look as short next to your friend.

[–]izzyinjurious0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Google RSD Max and then torrent his course The Natural. Should help you immensely. Good luck brodie

[–]Juggernaut_is_here0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

heightmaxxing is truemaxxing...leg lengthening surgery all the way

[–]screechhater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

0 experiences with women and it shows.

They can feel the lack of abundance.

Quit being picky and learn with the 4-5’s. Continue to improve.

With all due respect, some of you engineering types need some help.

[–]good-look-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

its an abundant world dog, keep high value men in your company. you want a guy like that on your side

[–]munt4life1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Srs

[–]Aestheticcunt1996-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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