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Found this sub earlier today and haven't stopped reading since. It feels like my insides are turning. This last story was honestly the last straw for me. I can't handle the red pill. I feel like I actually want to die after reading all this. How can I ever trust another woman, how can I ever find the person that will be my partner, the one that always has my back? My other half? Is all of that just a bullshit lie that I've grown up to believe? I thought that I was just unlucky to have found a bunch of these women, I didn't realize this was a reality.. I need someone to talk to.


[–]zboo1h80 points81 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

The beginning is definitely the hardest. It ruined my appetite. It fucked with my sleep. It made me feel like a dickhead idiot for jacking off. It made me really turn my focus on myself and see what a fucking wreck I was. Two years later and it's today: I put on 40 lbs of muscle, I found myself working up the career ladder, I find myself having sex with beautiful women with zero commitment or investment (time or otherwise).

Still, just recently one of these beautiful women did some kind of mental emotional judo on me and got me to obsess about her, reverting me entirely back to the old days.

This whole journey you will and NEED to go on is painful, it will make you want to puke, it will make you feel hatred and anger and sadness - medicine doesn't taste good, but it will make you feel better.

And even in a few years time, when you're a ripped adonis making money and taking the hoes you want, you will still trip over the tiniest pebble and come crashing down to Earth again to pick up the pieces and try again.

Believe me my man, you're in the right place. Lift. Read TRP sidebar material. Focus on yourself. You're the prize.

I don't care how pretty she is. I don't care how "innocent" she seems. I don't care how unusually smart for a female she is. I don't care what nurturing tendencies she exhibits. I don't care about her salary or how she's traveled. YOU are the God Damned prize and if you don't believe that, no one else will either.

So you will dust yourself off every time you fall, just like I did recently, and you will find another one, and another one, and another one, and you may even find one that "isn't like the others", but try and remember - You are the prize, You are what's important. And don't beat yourself up if you relapse into beta behavior or anger.

Women are ancillary at best.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

40 lbs of muscle .... what you doing for routine?

[–]zboo1h1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Chalk it up to noobgains - I hear that you put on the most in your first year. I started doing a lot of compound exercises like OHP deadlift squat and bench and then after a few months started incorporating isolation exercises. I'm currently doing a split of arms, legs/abs, chest/tri's, back/bi's, and shoulders/abs. My total time lifting is roughly 18 months.

[–]ElCthuluIncognito1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Right there with you 125 -> 170 in about 6 months. Noob gains are great, but its definitely exponentially harder to put on weight the bigger you are to be sure.

[–]Rooibosisboss0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

125!

[–]blue_dover 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

He is probably eating quite a bit too

[–]zboo1h-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I am. I was a skinny skeleton for a long time and my metabolism works against me. I eat a fucking shitload all the the time and supplement with creatine and protein. I'm trying to stop smoking weed/drinking alcohol entirely for the pure health gains, but my social life is getting in the way.

[–]adam_varg2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No you dont. You do fail somewhere and if you arent gaining any weight (far, water or muscle) it is food intake or you have some parasite who is eating your calories. Head to "gainit" sub for former, physician if you think its the later.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love weed tho

[–]alp1001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

bro

[–]Endorsed Contributorstickfiguresk[🍰] 28 points29 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

How can I ever trust another woman,

You don't have to respect them, but respect what they are. Social dynamics aren't magic. They're a product of evolution, and the weak genes get weeded out. This isn't any woman's fault: its yours for being naive. The first step to acceptance is taking responsibility.

how can I ever find the person that will be my partner, the one that always has my back?

That's the heart of the red pill: Disney love is fantasy. "The one" is like Santa or the Easter Bunny.

[–]CrownsTalons 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, I accept that. I was so wrong and naive to believe that bullshit. I found comfort in the idea that women can think like I do. I didn't realize the difference.. even after what happened to me. I feel like I'm actually just low intelligence and a pathetic excuse for a man.

[–]zboo1h12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Low intelligence pathetic means you would reject the extremely painful truth for the comforting lies of the beta blue pilled reality. You're definitely not low intelligence. You should stop beating yourself up as soon as possible.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We've all been there, even the best of us. Don't compare someone else's chapter 20 to your chapter 1. Be your own best friend, look out for yourself, and have your own back. Also value time spent with "the bros," the only people out there who would take a bullet for you.

[–]graffix134 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll also add that it's easy to be mad at women and almost hate them for what they are. Don't do this. Accept what they are, and learn to use your new found knowledge to your advantage.

[–]hawkeaglejesus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

how can I ever find the person that will be my partner, the one that always has my back?

That's you. The only person you can truly trust and rely on, the only one you ever need to feel complete is you.

Believing you need a partner, especially a female one, is a lie we're all programmed with from birth.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

This is normal.

In an effort to keep this short, all those progressive things people say about women are totally false. You're supposed to treat women like objects, be insensitive, be selfish, act like your better, and basically discriminate in your personal life.

But NEVER TALK about it because the people that push this agenda include the legal system.

Do plenty of reading, but if you find yourself still glued to TRP after a few weeks/months it can become poisonous. Find your Blue-Red balance, otherwise you'll be filled with bitterness and unable to cope with it.

[–]zboo1h13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember my blue pill days of what I thought women wanted.

What women want is to be dragged around by their hair and slapped and fucked hard and ignored. They also want to be held and comforted and fed and not ignored.

In short, fuck what they want. Get what you want.

[–]CrownsTalons 9 points9 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I feel like this isn't even real life and that I decided to start some fucking hardcore drugs all of a sudden. My whole life.. I feel so stupid.. I could have done so much if I just knew this before. FUCK

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You just need to redefine what happiness is to you. It was unhealthy before you found TRP.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Also - stop trying to be happy. Happiness is a temporary high and a lofty ideal sold to you by society. Focus on greatness and living an impactful, fulfilling life.

Once I discovered this it completely changed my mindset for the better.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice. I like this.

[–]Willow-girl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said. Thanks for that!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I still haven't unlearned 'the pursuit of happiness'. Still chasing that purple dragon.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if you can snap your fingers and declare it unlearned. Try looking back on your life. You'll notice that the times you really enjoyed and appreciate were a result of sustained effort and focus. Apply this tried and true mixture with a dash of optimism and energy, and you'll find life more fun and adventurous. Learn to love work, for work has given you everything you have.

[–]Thizzlebot3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I could have done so much if I just knew this before. FUCK

Well now you know so start now.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Some men are unlucky because they find the red pill at 25 after prime college life.

Some men are really unlucky because they find the red pill at 40 after a divorce.

Some men never find the red pill and die after a life of constant disappointments with women. How lucky were those?

[–]CrownsTalons 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

You make an excellent point. I am grateful that I found trp and I'll make the most of it. A moment of silence for those that never found trp.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I found it at 35. I would give my soul to have found it at your age. But then I know I'm luckier than others. I'll just make the most of it too

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if you find yourself still glued to TRP after a few weeks/months it can become poisonous

if you find yourself still glued to TRP after a few weeks/months it can become poisonous

if you find yourself still glued to TRP after a few weeks/months it can become poisonous

edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4bj6q0/reduce_your_misogyny_by_being_manly/ For more info on why this is.

[–]MoravianKing12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That is not even the worst part.

The worst is when you realise that your mom, and you grandma are the same(AWALT). They will ask you 10 times why are you going to the gym, they will tell you that your diet is bad, ask why are you cutting when you don't weigh 120kilos. You will go through the same shit tests you go with 20 year olds.

You are the man, learn who to ignore and smile on like a twat, and learn who to listen to. Don't follow everything you see here, find the important stuff, read the sidebar, plate if you want to, LTR if you don't. Just don't put women on pedestal, they don't deserve it, climb it yourself and watch from above.

E: Don't respect women, love them for what they are, respect is for better men.

[–]mrpCamper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All true. But I have to give my sister props for saying I looked really good this summer instead of puking her shit stream on me. Other than that, it's been similar to what you describe. My mom thought I was sick. Like why are you losing so much weight are you sick? Have you seen a doctor?

[–]Mick-Q-11887 points8 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I've recently found TRP in the last month or so and I can relate to this. I'm going between relief at seeing the truth about women, and despair/sadness at having to let go of my previous false beliefs/assumptions in regards to them.

I think also that I've been naive in thinking that women are just like me in regards to the way I think and see the world. Clearly this has set me up for many falls. As I approach 28, I'm glad I've been woken up, but also disappointed that I didn't find it sooner.

[–]CrownsTalons 5 points5 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I actually turned 22 today and I still feel like it's so incredibly late. Our whole lives could have been different but I guess there's no point in dwelling on the past anymore. I think the sooner we accept it the better. It's so hard to think about all those assumptions and beliefs, then to just throw all of them out the window just like that. It's difficult. I'm grateful to everyone that has taken the time to reply to this, it's a lot easier knowing you're not the only one that had to go through this.

[–]mrpCamper8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OK. Ready for this. I discovered this shit almost two years ago at age 42, married with 4 kids. It hurt a fuck ton. Total reality check. BUT, I was able to reprogram myself. Dropped 40 pounds of fat and have been lifting ever since. I'm ripped, doing awesome shit and having a ball. The wife is happier too because I'm not a blue pill loser anymore.

I'm not the only married 40 something in here. If we can do it at 42, you can totally change your entire life if you're only 22. You've probably been fucking chicks for 5 years. You've got another 30 in you at least!!!! Go get 'em tiger!!!!

[–]O_Son5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I recently turned 32, keep in mind that at any moment in life you're in-between steps from one moment to the next. You're never 18, it's never your birthday, the fact that you came across redpill may have been a total coincidence- one day you'll meet a woman that seems totally different from the others. You'll spend 3 months with her, or three years, with no problems and suddenly everything is a problem.

If you were put in this same life a thousand times you may have never encountered the redpill again. So don't worry about when you encountered redpill or this woman, because things have a way of working themselves out.

[–]CrownsTalons 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's all becoming more clear to me as time goes by. I also thought it was coincidence at first but now I know it was not. I was looking for this, I'm sure that I knew that somewhere in the back of my mind that something was not right and that I needed this change. I've been yearning for it. I want to share with you all something I found on my computer from what seems to be a long time ago, I'm starting to think it was a "glitch in the matrix". It was just a random thing that I found from going to a certain website for the first and the last time.. I read it and saved it and thought that it was ridiculous then forgot about it. I recently discovered it again. It seems like something someone from TRP would have written. Let me know if anyone is interested.

[–]UntraceableRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course, share it

[–]Rooibosisboss0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i'd like closure on that anecdote please.

"I want to share with you all something I found on my computer from what seems to be a long time ago,"

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Found TRP when I was 37, just recently turned 40. If you're here at 22 you have a GREAT LIFE ahead of you. Never doubt it.

Keep reading, keep lifting, keep improving. Great things ahead. The loss of the illusion is painful, yes, but, knowing what you know now, as Morpheus so eloquently put it: "Even if you could go back [to the dream world], would you really want to...?"

[–]Expectations15 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I never really understood until i worked in a team full of women. When you work in such an environment with 8+ women for 50 hours a week, you start to pick up on their bullshit so fast.

They have no concept of things like honour or having a purpose, their purpose is having a man with purpose. And the senior women in an organisation do not look happy that they have to be a leader, believe me, they do not want to lead.

[–]zboo1h4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also: Besides TRP, I would heavily recommend listening to Patrice O'Neal's show The Black Phillip Show on YouTube. He helped me better understand women's behaviors so that I could stop hating them. I was holding them to unrealistic (Men's) standards of behavior and it was making me and the women I dealt with miserable.

I cannot more strongly recommend that you listen to Patrice's philosophy, it very well could help save your life.

[–]TheStumblingWolf6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

All transitions are hard. Remember you're both the sculptor and the clay. If you wish to reshape your mind you can. This place is filled with people on the same journey as you. Besides - when you know all the rules you can bend them. Bending is fun.

[–]CrownsTalons 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's a sad read, and perfect evidence you can't date a victim. Sucks because it's not their fault, but you can see what it ultimately leads to with stories like these.

[–]GC0W304 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All of the principles and precepts of TRP are true.

Go ahead and mourn the loss of your fairytale magic dreamland if you need to. Many of us had to do that.

The great part about discovering TRP's truth is that you have the tools, or the directions to acquiring the tools, that you need to have a great life.

You are capable of acquiring a life where the women who accompany you in life are allies in your happiness. You are capable of becoming the kind of man who can replace women who stop being allies quickly with new ones.

Grieving your BP life sucks, but it won't kill you to learn the truth.

[–]desno2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you summed up all of our experiences of being exposed to trp for the first time haha. Good luck, keep reading and you will eventually accept it

[–]Askada3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How can I ever trust another woman

Women are not trustworthy, just accept it like the sunset.

how can I ever find the person that will be my partner

You can get a dog if you miss true companionship but you will deal with it eventually.

the one that always has my back?

Your best friends and maybe the family are the ones who should got your back.

My other half?

After you will deal with anger phase and start self-improving you will become a complete man, no additional "halfs" will be needed.

I hope you are reading r/theredpill though, not r/asktrp as the latter is kinda low quality in my opinion, but good for posts like yours.

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's an old classic on the "Stages of Loss" as applied to TRP.

It isn't a 1-2-3, we tend to relive the phases we haven't fully incorporated yet, as we grow and understand more about being a man.

Give it time, it's a life-long journey. Keep reading the sidebar, check out the excellent books recommended in this sub and most important, experiment in real life as you internalize this new knowledge.

Eventually we outgrow and heal from that loss of poisoned boyhood and the benefits are amazing.

The Five Stages of Red Pill, and how to read r/TRP textposts.

[–]Dr_Frogstein2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't complain, be thankful. I'd give a lot to know then what I know now.

[–]PantsonFire12342 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember that modern women are mostly ruined shit-human just like most men. That's what happens when everyone turns to hedonism and emotional pursuit. Don't feel bad, this isn't humanities best face.

Become a strong man and fight for the good that's inside people. Even women can be reasonably good if they are held in check, same for men if they are allowed to flourish.

[–]FuckYourNarrative6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was all a lie. The redpill is the young adult's version of finding out that santa isn't real. You gotta buy and wrap your own gifts.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That book that was mentioned on the main sub the other day is truly worth a read: "practical female psychology for the practical man"

[–]CrownsTalons 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I'll definitely take a look at it, it seems like something I need at this point because it's really hard to grasp how men and women can't just be direct and honest with each other.

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That topic is discussed. I just read the chapter. Men speak directly, logically. Women are capable of this but they've also learned over the millennia to "sub communicate" or "speak womanese" which only trained men and naturals understand...

Very enlightening stuff in this book!

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because you're still plugged in. Otherwise you'd already know that a woman isn't supposed to be your "other half". You're supposed to be 100% man and understand that AWALT when it comes to wanting to test you or throw tantrums.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

OP here's your starter reading list (aside from the sidebar of course), read in the following order:

-- NO MORE MR NICE GUY by Robert Glover

-- WAY OF THE SUPERIOR MAN by David Deida

-- THE RATIONAL MALE by Rollo Tomassi (Start with BEST OF YEAR 1 and YEAR 2, then check out rest of site, book is worth picking up as well, it's all the greatest hits)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the post stickied today in main sub, find the link the "the five stages of the red pill" obviously you are in stage 1. take aread through and just be aware what you are experiencing is completely normal. You can even look at the other 4 stages and see how you will likely evolve your thinking's as you progress.

All the best

[–]bigk123450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the Book of Pook and Rational Male series by Rollo Tomassi.

These 3 books are life changers.

Pook ultimately tells you that you are the prize.

Rollo takes a more pragmatic approach and connects the dots regarding inter gender dynamics.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

u remember the first time u were told santa wasn't real? and the day you realized your parents aren't super heroes but humans with their own problems? or maybe the day you realized some people are born in the world who get to be bullies and still live out the rest of their lives in a way that will objectively always be better tha 99% of others'? it's like that. you just stop caring one day after your mind acclimates. you just kind of accept that this is the world we live in and the only thing you can ever do to live happily is to work on improving yourself and surrounding yourself with people who will be there for you through thick and thin just as you would for them, but as best friends and family, not potential mates. the shock will settle given time, but it's up to you to decide how you choose to view the reality of things.

[–]bainbridge_island0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chill the fuck out.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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