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Girl who friendzoned me nearly 10 years ago slammed into the wall and recently messaged me. (self.TheRedPill)

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I'm not much of an "alpha" but I subscribe to TRP and have tried to incorperate it into my life as much as possible. Thougth I'd share a TRP-related real life anecdote.

In 2004, I was 22 years old and head over heels for this 21 year old blonde girl who looked a lot like Alexis Texas. I was pretty f-ing beta and orbitted her for a full 6 months, never getting the hint that I didn't have a snowballs chance in hell.

One day we're chatting on MSN and she tells me that she hooked up with this guy at a party and was now regularly sleeping with him. My heart sank. I started giving her cold, indifferent answers and was looking to sign off when she said "his body is incredible, it makes the sex so fucking hot, the way he bends me over" - I couldn't believe it, she was purposely twisting the knife. I cut off contact.

Fast forward to a week ago, she contacts me out of the blue on Facebook. Looks like her psychology degree didn't work out too well, she works a near-minimum wage retail job. She has hundreds of old pictures on her FB account, posing with hundreds of guys, but now that her looks are fading she rarely posts them anymore. The ones she does post don't get Likes or comments from orbitters - they're all gone.

She apologized for the way she treated me, said she's a changed woman and she'd like to make it up to me by taking me to coffee. I say sure, why not...

I've done alright for myself - I make a good salary, live in a nice house that's nearly paid off, dress nice, drive a new car. When we met at Starbucks today her eyes lit up. It took me less than 3 hours before we were back at my place and I was fucking her and blowing my load in her mouth. As we laid in bed, she started talking about the past, how was a misguided girl who couldn't see who the "real good guys" were. It was comical.

I carted her back to her apartment in the ghetto and that was that. She sent me a few texts telling me what a good time she had, how it "seems almost fairy-tale", and how she wants to set up future dates. I haven't responded yet, don't know if I will at all. Haha.

I know it's not much but it was a small victory for me and gave me a weird sense of closure/justice. Hope you enjoyed it gents :)


[–]Ratcliff01 700 points701 points  (26 children)

Just remember man. She thinks she has you around her finger. "Oh no! All those hot loser guys I fucked before don't want me! I need someone to take care of me... OH YEAH there was that guy 10 years ago who orbited me, I can just throw him the bone I know he always wanted and Ill get him!"

Fuck her and leave her man. Free yourself.

EDIT: Thanks for the gold :)

[–]morsX 201 points202 points  (0 children)

I'm behind this advice as well. Don't ever respond to her. Take solace in the fact that she came crawling to you and keep looking for the awesome chicks out there that are worth a damn.

[–]Verlier 70 points71 points  (7 children)

Fuck and forget

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (6 children)

hit.it.and.quit.it.

[–]Immuchtooawesome 20 points21 points  (5 children)

toot.it.and.boot.it.

[–]public-masturbator 20 points21 points  (4 children)

hump.it.and.dump.it.

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[–]public-masturbator 20 points21 points  (2 children)

fuck.it.and.chuck.it

[–]Atleticomadrid 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I agree with said advice, but it seems OP is on the right track considering the following line;

I haven't responded yet, don't know if I will at all. Haha.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or...you know...

fuck her brains out, take back all those years of being down on yourself by doing every dirty, nasty, experimental fantasy you ever had...

then stop talking to her.

[–]Lord_Varys 37 points38 points  (9 children)

Or, spin her.

[–]AVillain101 116 points117 points  (5 children)

I would worry about an "accidental" pregnancy, so I wouldn't do that.

[–]Lord_Varys 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Or, protect yourself.

[–]AVillain101 39 points40 points  (3 children)

a crazy enough girl will find a way, spider.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 44 points45 points  (0 children)

"Sluts... Uh... Find a way"

  • Jeff Goldblum, Jurassic Park

[–]Hurp4Derp4 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Not against vasectomy she won't. Maybe he'll have a crazy-bitch story like this guy

[–]SuperNinKenDo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe OP wants to have kids, just not with her.

[–]ekjohnson9 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Why bother? Younger/better plates to be spun, no need to spend time with her at all given her past behavior and history.

[–]Lord_Varys 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Free sex, if you protect yourself.

[–]Luckyluke23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i'm pretty sure the guy can see that now... or I hope he can see it. he just went for the easy lay. I mean.. wouldn't you do the same?

[–]DanReggins 6 points7 points  (0 children)

THIS. Please listen to it bro!

You can fuck her, girls like her, AND younger girls too. Do NOT settle!

[–]Netwinn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This. It sounds cold, but it's true. Sounds like she sees you as a meal ticket to get out of the ghetto. Not worth it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorzyk0s 245 points246 points  (35 children)

This is the retribution fantasy every guy who's ever been thrown aside dreams of. Looks like you've carried it out perfectly, good on you man!

[–]ItsYourHandInMine 96 points97 points  (13 children)

Remember OP, she's a ho so next her in good time.

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[–]DreKei 29 points30 points  (7 children)

Those med chicks aren't as innocent as you make them sound. In my experience they are just as bad or worse. Plus, by the time she is done with her residency, she will be hitting the wall. She has ridden the carousel, don't kid yourself. In fact they pretty much have to sleep around since there is no time for relationships.

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[–]AbraxianAeon 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Med school chicks are the utter worst.

[–]ProductivityMonster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

anyone in med school is going to be hyper competitive and not have time for a damn thing, including a new relationship (although usually they're able to still fulfill minimal duties of a current relationship that started before med school). And this demanding lifestyle continues into residency/fellowship. Only when they finally become a physician at 30+ years old does it tone down. And by then they have hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt (unless her parents are really wealthy or she was one of the extremely few people to get a full scholarship).

[–]dman8000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Second year in residency is the tail end of medical school, which is an ideal time to start dating. They are still undesired, but will soon be a proper doctor with better hours.

[–]Aaron565 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also remember to be careful in bed! These desperate types may or may not try to do a little snip snip on the condom.

And the kicker is deception legal in today's society!

[–]kzwrp 37 points38 points  (1 child)

and go fuck delicious twenty-somethings

[–]morsX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One upvote from me does not do this post enough justice! Easily some of the best advice that every guy should follow.

[–]UnimpressedAsshole 23 points24 points  (3 children)

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[–]toysjoe 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'd imagine it'd be something along the lines of "this isn't justice, he raped her, he should go to jail", etc.

[–]AmazingFlightLizard 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Justiceporn, not SRS.

[–]illtakegoldornudes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know he Did it for me.

[–][deleted] 171 points172 points  (2 children)

Don't slip and end up marrying her, OP.

Otherwise, GREAT JOB. HIGH FIVES.

[–]EeeeeeevilMan 98 points99 points  (4 children)

Now tell her about the hot chick you fucked last night whose perfect tits make you come so hard.

Do it.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (1 child)

"The way I bent her over made the sex so hot".

[–]InternetFree 28 points29 points  (0 children)

"And she was so young with amazing silky skin."

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Or pull her into a threesome with another plate, or whatever. Sounds like she's now a disposable, life size, anatomically correct, poseable action figure doll.

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[–]AllYouCanEatRedPills 36 points37 points  (0 children)

"Seems almost fairy-tale"

That line is the female equivalent of:

"whoa, ur hot, can I buy u a drink!?"

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[–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Except that she's the actual sucker

Nopunintended

[–]Ormild 28 points29 points  (0 children)

MSN? My God how time flies.

[–]UnimpressedAsshole 56 points57 points  (0 children)

It's profound how utterly romantic most men are compared to how completely not most women are.

Women realize this and use it to their advantage. A woman creates and feeds a man's hearty imagination and romanticism not to build a reciprocal sense of unity, joy, and magic but to engineer or at least facilitate an emotional tether in the man's heart to herself.

You can see it with this girl as she tries to build your ego about you being a "good guy" and her not recognizing it all along because she was so misguided. She was once misguided, lost, and ignorant but now she has seen the light and you shine as a beacon of nobility in her world. You can be her Prince Charming in her "almost fairy-tale". You can save her OP, with you two riding into the sunset together...

[–]semigod__ 68 points69 points  (26 children)

sometimes i wonder: will this pile of unmarried 40 year old spinsters in 10-15 years serve the younger generation as a cautionary tale?

[–]Kombaiya 68 points69 points  (18 children)

Not likely, they turn into Miss Havisham's and try to ruin the next generation as their final coup de grace.

[–]gopher88 18 points19 points  (17 children)

Not likely, they turn into Miss Havisham's and try to ruin the next generation as their final coup de grace.

This is what I'm quietly fearful of too

[–]SchrodingersRapist 12 points13 points  (16 children)

Honestly looking at history since the women's rights movement started, but mostly focusing the last 40 years, we're already a generation or more into that mess if you think about it.

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[–]SchrodingersRapist 13 points14 points  (6 children)

I'm saying it seems to be getting worse, a loop of sorts. Its been a while since I read it so maybe I'm misremembering the book, but it seems young women are the vain and self absorbed and grow into the old crone once the looks go and after a divorce or three. They then take out their own misguided ideas of why they are alone and unhappy and shaoe the next generation into themselves, whether consciously or not.

I've seen it in my mother bad mouthing men to her neices, I've seen it in female friends and exes mothers as well. It just seems that the destructive path that lead to where they end up isn't learned from just blamed on others and taught to the youth. I just don't see such a cycle ending when the failure is pawned off as the fault of others.

Maybe this isn't as clear as I could make it as Im typing on a phone.

[–]gprime312 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Once again, so glad I'm gay. This sub reddit is a daily reminder why I don't deal with those harpies you guys call women.

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[–]SchrodingersRapist 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Miss Havisham was stood up at her wedding and therefore hated men, so she raised Estella (her niece or something) to hate all men and to break their hearts on purpose by leading them on because she was such a broken, shrivelled up old vag.

Yeah I didn't remember the why but I remembered the core theme. Its happening now sans the left at the altar part. The women teach their daughters, or young female family members, that men are only useful for what they can get out of them and what they can/will give them.

What I hope is that this causes men and women to actually get along better somehow

Maybe I'm a bit more jaded, realistic, whatever you want to call it. While I would hope that is what happens what I actually expect to happen is these women from less developed countries will instead become more westernized. Then maybe something will change as shit begins to hit the fan all over the place, but I don't think anything will until that point. We're talking another 50-100 years to let this run its course.

Until that point you play the game as it currently is.

[–]theVet 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Maybe I'm a bit more jaded, realistic, whatever you want to call it. While I would hope that is what happens what I actually expect to happen is these women from less developed countries will instead become more westernized.

It's already happening. Look at most guys who've married philippino/thai/asian women. Takes them a maximum of 4 years after the first kid is born to start behaving like western women. My ex boss was one of those idiots and his filipina cutie dragged his balls through the court razor wire and juiced them for maximum cashflow.

[–]Kombaiya 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Yeah, Estella's generation or even the generation after. Estella's become Miss Havisham's and try to create Estella's. The whole story was really a warning about lack of fatherhood and poisonous mothers.

A quick rundown.

Pip was an orphan and was raised by his kind brother and not so kind sister. Magwitch was his most fatherly figure, brings him up by sending him to london to become a gentlemen and the later would likely become his father in law when he realises Estella is his daughter (who's mother lied to him about her dying as a baby).

[–]2johnnight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

we're already a generation or more into that mess

Men did not have a working theory to explain their situation. You can't counteract that which you do not understand. Also, as I said elsewhere, many examples of failure, far too many to disregard them as exceptions ("happened to that loser guy, won't happen to me").

[–]2johnnight 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Yes, they will. The younger generation needs many examples of failure to avoid repeating mistakes. As a species we just do not have that much foresight. We have hindsight.

In the past human behavior was controlled by social conventions. We demanded to have freedom to do as we please, but freedom with no guidance leads to massive amounts of personal catastrophes.

[–]Aaron565 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Nope. They will likely become radical feminists who do everything they can to ruin the next generation. They will fight for changing boy's education so that they will accept worn out party girls when the time comes.

[–]ar10308 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No. The logic of Cause and Effect evades women. They literally cannot grasp it.

[–]invisiblephrend 13 points14 points  (0 children)

not likely. most of western pop culture is ruthless when it comes to belittling men while calling women out on their shit is treated as a more playful taboo. a lot of it lies on the history of women being "oppressed" and given less options than men. imo, those generations were much more educated on gender roles and the consequences of going against nature. i consider myself to be fairly liberal on certain issues, but feminism is an absolute poison on societies around the world and it's scary to look at how much more lost and confused future generations will become as this pandering to emotions over logic continues to tear away at the fabric of society. even countries like s korea and japan, previously renowned for their wonderfully submissive women, are starting to buy into this nonsense and low and behold: more divorces, more broken families, and more lost souls of men/women just trying to go along with the new and clearly broken status quo.

[–]niceguy_gone_cad 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nope. They won't learn.

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I hope they do, and I hope it happens in such a large scale because that is the only way that it will have an effect on society as a whole.

[–]blowlinesfuckdimes 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Please please please don't give her the commitment she wants. I know you used to be super into her or whatever and that'll probably sway your opinion, but if you're as truly TRP-knowledgable as you claim to be you know exactly what'll happen if you marry this chick.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

She'll use him as a divorce ATM in about 5-7 years.

[–]pcadrian 118 points118 points [recovered]

She apologized for the way she treated me, said she's a changed woman

That's what they all say bro. They are all changed people.

Listen dude. People don't change. It's very rare that they do. Why? Because change takes continuous, constant EFFORT. It takes willpower. It takes intent. And it takes time. A LOT of time. Most people just don't have the mental discipline do to all that and change who they are.

Think about it. Let's say I'm a woman who has spend the last 10 years following an unhealthy, but emotionally reinforced behaviour pattern (sleeping with a ton of guys, drinking, partying and shit). How long do you think it takes for me to override that 10-year imprinted behaviour when I'm 30? Is it even possible at that point? It's a well known fact that after about 25 years of age, brain plasticity decreases. This means it's HARDER to learn new things, and harder to change behaviour patterns.

I've been shoving red pills down my throat DAILY in LARGE doses for the past YEAR or so, and I STILL have a LOT of work to do, even with all my consistent daily effort. So when someone comes to me and say they changed, I say they are full of shit.

Edit: I got carried away when I read the "she's a changed woman" and didn't read the rest of the post until now. Great fucking job. You're the man.

[–]2johnnight 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I agree. We are the product of our past behavior and do not change with the snap of the fingers.

A 10-year drug addict or alcoholic or unemployed bum has his mind permanently changed and is lost to society. It's hard to change habits. I had to work hard on my own, but they were fortunately not that hard ingrained. Some still are.

This one has worked hard to be an entitled party girl, the opposite of what you would want in a wife.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I didn't see anyone else say it, so I'll say it for them. Next her for another so you don't risk getting attached.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (22 children)

Whatever you do, do NOT commit to her anything more than a plate.

And DO NOT get her pregnant. Keep track of your used condoms afterwards, even consider white tabasco sauce. She's not dumb. After she realizes you're not falling for her, that she's just a toy for you, she might go into panic mode, get desperate, and start digging in the trash can after sex.

Edit: shit I can't spell today.

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[–]CornFedConscience 12 points13 points  (4 children)

You can imagine the pain if a woman tried inserting white tobacco sauce from a used condom, thinking it was sperm.

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[–]AllYouCanEatRedPills 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Or, the makers of White Tobacco Sauce(tm) chose this thread to stage their long-awaited reveal ad campaign.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's either a case of "I don't know what tabasco sauce is", or it could be me typing on my phone too fast, not checking my spelling 100% of the time.

[–]Jozan999 5 points6 points  (9 children)

I think he means putting hot sauce in the used condoms, so if she ever tried to impregnate herself after, she'd get a nasty surprise.

[–]kingoftheheap 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Couldn't she still get pregnant though from the jizz mixed in with this sauce even if it does hurt? Or is this more of a test to see what she does with an unused condom?

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Simple fix.

1) Urinate after sex

2) Wash out condom while washing hands, dry, fill with "white tobacco sauce" or some type of spermicide (I'm sure there's no shortage of substances that work as spermicides), throw in trash

[–]SigmaMu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sperm are rather fragile, I think the acidity of tabasco would be enough of a spermicide. But hey, I'm no expert.

[–]AllYouCanEatRedPills 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tabasco sauce would kill the sperm and give her a nasty surprise if she ever tried to "retrieve" it from the trashcan. Though, throwing it in the trashcan isn't your best move to begin with.

Word to the wise: Always take the condom afterwards, before she has a chance to "I'll take care of that!"

Flush it yourself, and watch it go down.

If you think that's not worth doing, you need to listen to a few episodes of Tom Leykis.

[–]TXGeck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Use ben-gay for maximum effect.

[–]jmikolash 80 points81 points  (20 children)

I actually feel bad for these chicks. Society tells them this is the thing to do: YOLO without giving a single fuck. Then FWHAP! The wall. They are fucked, with nothing but a future of misery ahead of themselves.

This is what happens when you get weak beta fathers supplicating to their little princess' every desire. Delusional entitlement to the extreme without an ounce of discipline or self respect.

The general sentiment seems to be let them burn and warm yourself by the fire of their agony, but if that was your little girl I don't think it would be a proud fatherly moment when you watch her punch her ticket to the cock carousel for the first time.

There has to be a better fate than this.

[–]lightfire409 11 points12 points  (0 children)

My sentiment exactly. Its an unfortunate situation to be in. Its not a situation where you point and laugh but you look upon and grimace with a "thats too bad".

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[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The time I spent listening to the bullshit and having women use me was much shorter than the time I will spend enjoying the fruit of my labor. Also I am enjoying now, despite the fucked up events of this year. I am alone because I choose to be, my ex's will be alone for longer because they have no choice.

Having gotten through the hard parts of life, living easy, doing what and when as I age is preferable to having to work until you are 80 because you expected someone to be your provider once you hit 35, and he never showed. He did show, but they dismiss him so they can have the party life filled with excitement and cock.

[–]betagenic 18 points18 points [recovered]

Explanation isn't justification. Ultimately we are each personally responsible for our lives.

[–]ChaoticNatural 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Explanation isn't justification.

And condolence isn't condonation. Nobody said anything about giving them a free pass.

[–]wtfdizzy 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The only thing you can do with this is stop the cycle when it's within your power. When I have kids, you can bet your ass that I'll be active in their lives and teach them how to act properly. My son(s) will be taught self-confidence, while my daughter(s) will be taught self-respect. It's a damn shame so many people didn't have such an upbringing, but that's out of our power.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Make your kids earn what they get so they learn self confidence as well as self reliance, without entitlement. Harsh but quick consequences work better than months or weeks of groundings, time out doesn't do shit.

I had my oldest until she was seven the youngest was taken by the ex when she was four, before I could teach her how to live. My oldest is far better than the youngest, in everything they do. The younger started fucking when she was 13, has had thirty guys and she just turned 17. She is the town bicycle like her mother.... I wonder where she got that.

[–]vaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's harder than expected to counter all the BS they are fed by the media, school system and their peers. I've read some studies in the past claiming that by the teenage years peers already have more influence than parents. And discussing sexual strategies before their teenage years is above their heads. The best you can do is show them traditional role models and hope it sticks.

[–]wittywittakers 22 points23 points  (4 children)

I actually feel bad for these chicks. Society tells them this is the thing to do: YOLO without giving a single fuck. Then FWHAP! The wall.

Society spoon fed us truckloads of bullshit too, but we managed to somehow figure it out.

They did this to themselves.

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[–]vaker 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They don't have that luxury. They have to grow up quick and be mature as early 20 year olds or they loose out for life.

And this is why in traditional societies young females were not allowed to do whatever stupid idea occured to them. They were protected and their choices limited to save them from life-ruining mistakes made due to inexperience and immaturity.

But that was not good enough for feminists. They had to fuck it up. Rational females should absolutely hate feminists.

[–]admit-it 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But we have time on our side to figure it out. They don't have that luxury.

The Wall doesn't stop them from dating, it just stops them from doing the same thing they've done their whole life. If they reform their behavior and act like fully functioning adults, then their problem goes away in exact proportion to what it does for men. The Wall just sets a time limit on when what they're doing will stop working.

That's why so many are alright with doing things that way. They know that they'll have their fun, then post-Wall they'll be able to figure something out. It might not be nearly as great post-Wall as it was pre-Wall, but they know they'll make it one way or another. Even if they marry a beta and end up having to major in cosmetology, they appear to be alright with that outcome.

tl;dr: Hitting the wall doesn't end their life, it just ends their lifestyle.

[–]morsX 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I think we keep spreading TRP to all the men in the world. Eventually, it is wide-spread enough that women wisen up and fall back on what worked just 200 years ago.

[–]wtfdizzy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I simply hope that we'll all learn to get a long as we once did.

To me, TRP has always been about equality, where no one is entitled to anything based solely on their gender. When a man can come to the realization that happiness and confidence comes from within, the ladies will flock to him. When women realize that their actions have consequences and "the right guy" will not come if they whore out their youth, "the right guy" will come across them. I can't see how that's a bad thing.

[–]ColmM36 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well come on, sure, her spoiling father has a role to play, and society for that matter, but really people are intelligent creatures, they CAN make choices (and should) based on fact, and weighed up options. Before she decides to be railed in the stalls, shouldn't she realize what it is she is doing? For me, I was raised catholic (in other words, taught to be beta by teachers and parents) but I still had the consciousnesses to realize who "The System" or "Matrix" was making me become, and I escaped by myself, maybe not too the biggest extent, but for the most part, before swallowing TRP.

Then again, maybe I'm taking for granted the fact that I may have different perspectives than others. But this is my thoughts on things.

[–]Traz_Onmale 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes but you changed due to negative experiences (I assume), while she had none. Everything was working out fine for her until it didn't anymore and then it was too late to change.

[–]xanderjanz 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Don't feel bad. 'The wall' only punishes women who want a family but didn't plan for it. She is still free to live a successful life with her cats.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I have a score to settle myself but unless she offers herself on a plate like yours did I'll live with it.

[–]LMS_THEORY_ 60 points61 points  (7 children)

The wall takes no prisoners. It is indiscriminate, just, and the law of nature. We should have more stories of the women slamming into the wall.

We need more stories like this on r/TRP.

[–]fillymandee 19 points20 points  (1 child)

At first, I thought this was going to be a game of thrones reference

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It kind of is. The wall guards the realm of red pill men everywhere.

[–]MasterGolbez 8 points9 points  (4 children)

The wall comes for every woman but for some it comes a lot later...

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Pump and dump.

Sometimes you just gotta do it.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Incoming text: trapper33, I missed my period last month

[–]PerniciousOne 11 points12 points  (0 children)

She is at the wall, and she is going to be looking at you in a provider set of eyes. She will do everything and anything to try locking you down.

She may try to trap you into a relationship by saying she has or becoming pregnant.

Ensure that you use condoms 100% with her, and do not believe her if she says she is on the pill, as women near the wall will try to do anything to lock you down.

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Hope you wrapped that shit.

[–]mydarkmeatrises 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, stories like this are par for the course, but realistically do you have any type of feelings for her?

If her antics are more of a turnoff than spending time is enjoyable, then you should pump and dump. If not, bygones, proceed with caution, enjoy your new leverage in this relationship and use it to your full advantage.

Edit: Oh and don't allow her to con you with the ' I'm in my 30's, don't waste my time" She didn't seem to mind wasting your time when she friendzoned you.

[–]TXGeck 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So now this clinger knows where you live.

Only flaw in your tale I see.

Don't slip up, but don't make her psycho either.

"I am not interested in reliving the past, so I'm going to have to decline."

I wouldn't fuck her again either. That would build up attachment you don't need.

[–]Bisuboy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Just subscribed to this sub because of you.

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[–]vaker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

injecting bad karma into a world

The bad karma was injected by her in the past, when she used him as an orbiter. This is karma balancing out.

[–]TXGeck 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Ass to mouth!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Cum on her face, and then walk out. Never look back

[–]sliqwilly 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Awesome, purely. "It's like a fairy tale almost", lol, yup, almost.

[–]Calbruin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think I just got a little teary eyed.

[–]Fsicx 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I would say don't reply...actually NEVER do...she is still what she used to be...you are much worthier than her friendship...these ACTs of repentance are ridiculous...just imagine how many guys she tried to contact before you... you have set up a life now...think about that

[–]youruglyside 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Awesome work. Next time blow that load all over her face and take pictures for yourself.

[–]hamstercide 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The best thing you can do in this scenario is fuck her non-commitally for as long as possible, so that when you eventually do have to dump her her looks will have faded even more. Keep pulling her by the string.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nice job, made me smile. Fuck her hard, but don't give her anything in return. And keep the condoms. Desperate women do desperate shit.

[–]bassivemalls 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Looks like her psychology degree didn't work out too well...

Grinned so fucking big here and kept it until the end.

[–]PrisonerOfLife 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do unto others as they do unto you.

She used you as an emotional tampon, you used her as a cum receptacle. Epic justice.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Tell her the truth:

When you liked her you were a misguided young guy that didn't know who the real good girls were. Now that you've grown up a bit and seen the world, you've fallen for a cute young 18/yo chick that hangs out at the library and is a virgin.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Everyone is saying next her. But I say have some fun. She thinks she can manipulate the little beta boy she was with 10 yrs ago. Use this to your advantage and use her for her body only. Remember to keep safe (condom).

[–]10J18R1A 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's the equivalent of former sex symbols signing up to do playboy fifteen years after anybody would have given a fuck.

[–]2johnnight 21 points22 points  (6 children)

I can feel your revenge justice satisfaction and at the same time I despair for a society, which made this necessary to feel closure. The slut is broken and you are somewhat broken too, OP.

Sorry guys, I want back into my 19th century Victorian morals Matrix.

[–]betagenic 13 points13 points [recovered]

Congratulations, you have begun your initiation into the Dark Enlightenment.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I love this word for it. "Dark Enlightenment". Where did you find it?

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 17 points18 points  (1 child)

The victorians had a better morality model than we do now. I concur.

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[–]Atleticomadrid 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good read, well done.

I feel great pleasure when situations which confirm TRP arise in everyday life. I chalk it up as a small victory and use it as motivation to obtain more RP knowledge and better myself.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

If I were you, I'd string her along for awhile, do some beta stuff and see how far you can push her in the bedroom. Turnabout is fair play

[–]vaker 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's dangerous on multiple grounds from pregnancy trap to emotional trap.

[–]invisiblephrend 5 points6 points  (3 children)

for me, it would take some pretty phenomenal sex to wanna have seconds on a post-wall chick. this sounds like more of a hatefuck.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

He could get sweeter revenge if he strung her along for a while and made her think he was going to be beta bucks. Then he could just friendzone her. I can see the wisdom in what you're saying though. OP sounds inexperienced in RP so he is playing with fire for sure.

[–]tsudonimh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Then he could just friendzone her.

It would be a perfect setup for the line "Let's not ruin what we have by getting serious. Let's just be sluts." Slutzone her...

[–]un-affiliated 5 points6 points  (0 children)

While he's stringing her along, he's failing to move on with his own life. He's spent enough time on this girl. Better to spend that same time on girls he actually enjoys having around.

[–]One_Mat_Army 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I haven't responded yet, don't know if I will at all.

Just fucking don't. What more can you get out of a woman who is desperate to find someone now that she's not who used to be?

You got the shag, now move along with you life.

[–]niceguy_gone_cad 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I haven't responded yet, don't know if I will at all. Haha.

She badly needs your sperm in her face.

[–]CMOS222 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I did something similar with a woman I knew in college...was 200% beta, put her on a pedestal, orbited her for the longest time, etc. It didn't work out, obviously...and IN FAIRNESS, I didn't really know her, I only had this idealized image of her.

I am trying these days to be more TRP, and succeeding...but on the other hand, part of me can't help but feel some...compassion, sympathy, understanding, whatever - for both 20something beta males and women who act like the woman you describe. I'm not saying that the behavior is justified, but just that, after all, part of this just boils down to being 20something and simply not knowing enough about how a woman's mind works, and how your own mind works.

Of course, 20something alphas exist, and more power to them. And I agree with the other comments, don't let her popping up into your life result in slipping back into beta mode. I guess I'm just starting to accept that this is how some people's minds (male and female) work, and how to deal with it, TRP-wise.

[–]MagicGainbow 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Ditch her by text, then screen shot it so we can all have a good chuckle.

[–]MagicGainbow 36 points37 points  (4 children)

And for extra irony friend-zone her, suggest you just don't see her as a romantic interest but just as a good friend.

[–]Boss_Monkey 29 points30 points  (1 child)

While telling her about this young virgin that interests you. Virgins make better wives, can't wait to bend over on one knee and offer the ring. Twisting the soul shiv...

[–]MagicGainbow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like your style.

[–]moorethanafeeling 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A good friend with benefits. Otherwise you've put yourself back in the friend zone.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 10 points11 points  (0 children)

regular scenario

Time for a beta provider, don't be that sucker.

[–]EsquireKing 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would keep her around for the sex, other than that you know what you're dealing with.

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[–]KublerRossWasWrong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I could up-vote twice I would. In a month or so, OP will be posting a follow-up along the lines of: "Had a ONS with girl from 10 years ago; just found out she was engaged at the time." with Alpha Fucks flair.

[–]Dishmayhem 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I vote don't be deliberately mean to her. Keep her around as long as she is fun. If becomes a burden, then you can be mean.

[–]beeker629 5 points6 points  (0 children)

pumpity dumpity.. brings a tear to the eye. so proud.

[–]Arkanj3l 28 points29 points  (8 children)

I don't consider this a win because it seems like it didn't take much effort on your part to change or run game. I think the people who are applauding this "success" are reinforcing the wrong concept.

I mean, yeah, congrats on the lay, but based on your narrative of things - she went to you because she made a bet on you having low enough standards or as being hot enough for her even when she "hit the wall". Not because you were her first choice.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 47 points48 points  (1 child)

It's a success in that he was lucid enough to know he was being sought out only as beta bucks. Without that knowledge he could easily be being stung around as a poor sap of a provider until he catches her cheating.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Exactly. It's a success because he saw the big picture right in the nick of time before he made a terrible mistake (commitment, oneitis relapse, provider role, pregnancy). Ugly win late in the fourth quarter is still a win.

[–]FritzusMaximus 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yep how many orbiters from the past did she have coffee with that week?

[–]Ceekoe 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Agreed. It was a good opportunity to vindicate yourself OP, and congratulations, but I think that a lesson was overlooked here.

As humans we don't apologize and tell those we have wronged that we've changed unless we are at a low point in our lives. And then she goes where? Right to the sucker who will jump at the chance to make her feel good (been that sucker a thousand times myself so I know this empirically).

I'm not knocking your victory, however I would have nexted her from the jump. Coffee? Sure. But I gotta make this quick cuz I'm picking up a hot 22 year old piece of ass in a bit. Have fun with the rest of your tapped-out existence.

[–]moorethanafeeling 13 points14 points  (1 child)

There is something inherently good in settling that old score. Using her for sex after only 3 hours of contact? Dude made out like a bandit. Unless you've ever gone back and had that one girl (somebody probably popped into your head when I said that) you can't speak bad against OP and stories like his. It's a huge confidence booster and it's like giving your teenage self a high five.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (5 children)

"seems almost fairy-tale"

It is only because men believe in that Disney princess/fate garbage, that women continue clinging to these "fairy tale" shit.

Men are, by nature, more innocent then women, so we believe what we're told. I mean, we have to. Evolutionarily, if we're lied to, it means death, you get me.

This bitch is making herself look like a foolish innocent little girl, just to get you into the bag. When she's got you, she's gonna go out and fuck some alpha guy. Probably a new 21 year old.

She's just telling you what you want to hear. Manipulation comes natural to women [I find it hillllllaaaaaarious that you have man in the word manipulation, almost like a millenia old linguistic joke].

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Sometimes regret is a helluva thing, you know

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That ain't no small victory bro - that's awesome.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That is definitely a case of a woman wanting to be "saved". she now sees you as her contingency for the life she fucked up. Don't give in to the tactic she's trying to bait you with by talking fairy tale shit. I hope its obvious to you whats she's up to.

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You should just keep her as a plate. No reason not to get sex out of her for all it's worth.

Just be sure to set the tone right away: Just get her to come over to your house for cheap movie/sex nights. No dates unless you enjoy her company, but keep it fun for you. No provider behavior of any kind.

[–]Gypsy__ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

good fucking job dude

[–]Gypsy__ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and dont bother contacting

[–]watersign 2 points3 points  (1 child)

id just string her along for as long as possible. just dont appear to be too needy

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, because she's going to look for an opportunity to hook him when he doesn't want that.

Left a condom in the trash? GG baby daddy.

[–]The_smartest_man_evr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you ever spend a penny on her, I'll cut your fucking nuts off.

[–]BooksofMagic 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Good on you. If I were you, after the way she twisted that knife in school, I would be tempted to send her a text:

"Hey Babe! You wanted assholes when I wanted you. Now you want me but I'm an asshole. Thanks for reminiscing with me ;)"

[–]Rectal_Spelunker 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't contemplate it for too long man. Just my opinion on it, but it just seems too...soon. She's not doing well for herself, and here you are doing well. I hate to sound cynical, but could it not be a trap for some financial entanglement in the form of a child?

[–]1Jaereth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is all well and good, and I would continue sleeping with her. However, don't for a single second give her any idea that you would be in a relationship with her. Also, don't buy her shit.

Your mantra with her is "I don't want to be in a relationship with anyone at this point in my life" It's like you are standing on top of the wall, dangling the rope down to her jjuuuuusssttt out of her reach.

Good job OP

[–]coyotefleas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The odds that she does NOT have a viral STI, namely HSV 2 or one of the genital HPV varietals, are slim to none. Regardless of gender, promiscuous people will get one or more of these, even with diligent condom usage. Just a reality check, can be interpreted any way you like. I shudder to think of the shite I've been exposed to over the past few years...

[–]zephyrprime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"who couldn't see who the "real good guys" were."

She could see them alright and she wanted nothing to do with them.

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[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

"They say revenge is bittersweet, but I find it to my liking" old lady from Diablo II

[–]moorethanafeeling 13 points14 points  (0 children)

She can find people to hook up with. She just can't find people to commit.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I have done that too, banged chicks who friend zoned me. Most were when I was in my 20s, right after my first war. I still have two left to fuck, but haven't seen them in almost fifteen years, they might be quite nasty by now. There weren't too many because early on if I heard her call me a friend she never saw me again.

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