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Historic Event: The Red Pill Exceeds Feminism In Total Subscribers

29,059 29,578 The Red Pill +302 +519

28,823 28,870 Feminism +47

The Red Pill Gained its Largest # of Subscribers Today Since its Founding

The Red Pill Growth Metrics


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[–][deleted] 246 points247 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Also a big thanks to the /r/thebluepill Ad Hominem brigade for pushing people with the ability for individual thought to visit our sub and draw their own conclusions. You're like free Google adsense.

PM and I'll buy you gals a razor for that legbeard.

[–]Clauderoughly 19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

PM and I'll buy you gals a razor for that legbeard

I highly doubt there are any actual women in TBP. It will be made up of neckbearded mangina's

[–]vaker 5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

made up of neckbearded manginas

with legbeards (:

[–]Clauderoughly 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

well over 50% of SRS is male..

Which is fucking tragic on many levels

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Leaves moar pussy for us, they can keep the hamplanets, man haters, and bitter feminazis. Its not at all tragic, because someone has to take one for the team, might as well be those losers.

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[–]aditas 8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

thank God that is not a razor. I was like "why do I need a shaver that can click 250 times per second?"

[–]randomkloud 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

just in case you're The Daredevil

[–]RageLife 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]randomkloud 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

link broken.

[–]RageLife 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a picture of the "wolf brothers", some extremely hairy guys that were in the Guinness book of world records.

[–]randomkloud 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ah, I know them

[–]tnes2588 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Surely this historic event has nothing to do with reddit demographics.

[–]ComplainyGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

As soon as I saw the headline I thought this. Not to take the value from trp, because trp doesnt need other people to agree with our reality truth.

[–]Totsean 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Heads up to /r/Askseddit and /r/totse

[–]MakutaProto 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also /SubredditDrama. I would have never found here without it.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/MGTOW is how I got here.

[–]LaLongueCarabine 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's how I heard of it. Through some histrionics in a worst sub of reddit circle jerk.

[–]jonivaio 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks to my older brother. He casually said to check out this subreddit, when I was having a relationship problems.

God knows when I would have stumbled upon this RED PILL (indeed), because I have never seen it mentioned before, although, I'm familiar with most reasonable subs, like seddit, for example.

Thanks!

[–]Vodkas21 63 points64 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Any publicity is good publicity. I ended up in TRP when I saw it being bashed in another subreddit a few months ago, I checked it out for myself and it wasn't the slander I saw but had some solid points that resonated with me.

[–]ButterMyBiscuit 22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Same story here.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw it mentioned with utter disgust on a female subreddit, where I went to read hilarious excuse stories, such as: "I wanted to stop him, but I didn't want to stop him" and "He was such a jerk, but I still had sex with him, oh my god when he pounded me I was so bored #yawn".

[–]trpalternate 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same story here. My marriage was probably saved because of it.

[–]Gamanos2 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Same for me. While I do see some unnecessary bashing every so often, the core of it has very solid points.

[–]ComplainyGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

With morw people comes more shit

[–]RedSunBlue 44 points45 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Hail Patriarchy!

EDIT: They hate our freedom.

[–]ItsYourHandInMine 40 points41 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I love how TRP never tries to convert people, but SRS and TBP constantly attack us. What a sad existence when you spend your life attacking a group that doesn't give a shit about anyone outside the group.

[–]Stopher 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep. TRP isn't afraid of debate either and welcomes discussion. SRS says if you disagree you'll be banned as part of their mission statement.

[–]berlinson -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I mean I could write on here that Red Pillers are mostly one step away from being sex offenders and everyone on here would just accept that as an opinion that's up for debate right?

[–]Stopher 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Way to prove our point and congratulations on trolling a comment from four months ago.

[–]Foster_Poster 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What does "SRS" mean? Couldn't find it in the glossary sidebar

[–]wait_im_a_whale 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It stands for Shit Reddit Says

[–]macardent 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

In the beginning I was doubting TheRedPill views and decided to read up on thebluepill, once I got there, I saw them talking shit about TheRedPill lol.. There was not much about them. Looks like they are a live under the shadow of TheRedPill just like John Scully under the shadow of Steve Jobs.

[–]CUNTBERT_RAPINGTON 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey Scully might have been unfit for the job, but he's no /r/bluepill

[–]macardent 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah. People who make it there are not bluepill. I am just saying his popularity and why people know of him is because he is known as the guy who got Jobs fired. Just like thebluepill is filled with talking about TheRedPill . They only exist because TheRedPill exist.

[–]CUNTBERT_RAPINGTON 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh, winners write the history books. Sculley is a friend of a friend and from my understanding Jobs was too rash and immature at that point to manage the organization he had created. He's only bluepill in the sense that he decided to pick up Steve's mess and attempt to babysit it for him while he grew up instead of just letting him run it into the ground.

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[–]VitaminTruth[S] 13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference."

~Ted Kaczynski

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[–]VitaminTruth[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"You should believe all quotes on the internet"

~Stanley Kirk Burrell

[–]pflyger 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

unabomber

[–]2johnnight 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know this from Tyler/RSD, but I don't know where he stole it from.

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[–]VitaminTruth[S] 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Here Are Some Funny Twitter Post About The Red Pill Today

Larkin Love ‏@MissLarkinLove 20s I just found TheRedPill on Reddit, and I am floored by the misinformation and misogyny.

Zane Sylliboy ‏@ZaneSylliboy 1h Wtf is up with #TheRedPill on reddit? I can't tell if these men even have an ounce of respect women.

Sarah Feldman ‏@sarahjfeldman 2h Reading this forum makes me want to furrow a hole under the glass ceiling and die.

RainbowCowFish ‏@rainbowcowfish 3h /r/theredpill is probably one of those disgusting subreddits I've ever seen.

Becky Yarwood ‏@mrsdraenog 5h /r/TheRedPill makes me want to vomit.

Gordon Kirchner ‏@gordunk 6h I just went on r/TheRedPill and nearly had a fucking aneurysm. My entire culture of morals and standards just got shit on by the internet

Tony ‏@TonyHatcher 6h Learned that /r/TheRedPill is a thing. It has 29,048 subscribers, which is short by a factor of 10 to the points it subtracts from humanity.

Chel C. ‏@chelwazhere 6h Singlehandedly pissed off r/theredpill. 90% of those guys wouldn't even have the balls to talk to me, and the 10% that would I'd laugh at

My Reaction

[–]soapjackal 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I really wish that they would explain thier issue like adults. Instead it's just 'mysoginistic'

[–]thecajunone 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They can't. There isn't any debate to be had. That's why thebluepill is nothing but insults and mockery, they have no real argument.

[–]Clauderoughly 47 points48 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I want to thank /r/MensRights for being such whiny, negative, pussy whipped arseholes and driving me to this overwhelming positive sub.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

That's how I got here because of their weakness and inability to get shit done. They may as well be stroking each others johnson for all the good they do.

[–]Clauderoughly 17 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, they are the male equivalent of feminists in my book.

They rail against "gender roles" which just brings eye rolling from me.

Gender roles are awesome, if you you know how to fill your gender role properly.

If you fail at being a man, of course life is going to suck. The same way it sucks for women who fail in their feminine role.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What these dolts never learn is you Never Engage An Enemy On Their Terms since these ppl know shit I couldn't even teach em that much.

[–]Clauderoughly 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The other problem is that they fail to grasp the simple prospect that society doesn't give a shit about the suffering of men.

So the tactics what work for feminists, will not work for them at all.

Society will rush to remedy female suffering.

Society doesn't give a fuck about male suffering.

So MRA's can bitch and whine as much as they like, but society at large doesn't care.

[–]alphabetmod -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is so spot on. "Gender roles" are never going to be eliminated for men. Society would cease to function. Gender roles can absolutely be eliminated for women because men and women alike will allow that.

[–]Clauderoughly 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Gender roles can absolutely be eliminated for women because men and women alike will allow that.

Naah fuck that. I want women to have their feminine gender role. The only ones pushing for the removal of gender roles for women are rich, upper class lesbians

That's only because they lose when those roles are applied

[–]alphabetmod -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I personally like my and my SO's gender roles as well. I don't necessarily wan't everyone else to have to conform to them, but my point is that there is a double standard. Women have by and large broken free of theirs if they choose to... men, whether they want to be or not, are still stuck in theirs. Society as a whole will let women "get away" with almost anything, the same cannot be said for men.

What I meant by the other part of my comment was that we will always need at least some men to conform to their "gender role" in that we will need warriors, construction workers, etc... at least for the next couple hundred years until those things can be totally automated.

[–]Clauderoughly 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So we need to stop giving women free shit until they start pulling their weight and start contributing again.

We have replaced men that fill their role WELL, with women who fill a men's role badly.

The whole of society suffers as a result.

I agree you can't stuff the genie back in the bottle though, so we need to find a way forward.

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[–]Clauderoughly 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, and the mods are complete pussies, and refuse to kick them out.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I came to TRP from there as well.

I posted my story and was downvoted into oblivion there - some vitriol and hatred spewed at me.

[–]GuruLand 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, there are many issues that you will have to deal with because you're a man (Signing for selective service, divorces, custody, court treatment...). Of course they are not going to be a positive sub. They're fighting for your rights though, so whether you like them or not, you should respect them.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I cant link to it directly but here's one of OP's responses in the thread;

"Not necessarily. I have a very, very happy marriage. We communicate well, love each other very much, help each other out around the house, have similar goals, etc.However, my husband is a large man, and I have PTSD from previous rape. So...we don't have sex much. He gets it - we've discussed it - we knew it was nontraditional entering into the relationship. But we just don't have sex much.

Are we gonna get divorced?" -- plentyofrabbits

And there's your average feminist.. sounds awesome.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That poor poor man, how pathtetic do you have to be to settle for that...indeed settling at all is beneath me and repulsive. I don't have to settle thank god I'm a MAN.

Edit: Never mind I re read the post ...Translation low self esteem fat guy settles for cat whisperer with dry vag.

[–]FatHat 32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because patriarchy, of course.

[–]DreKei 36 points37 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Currently the top two posts of /r/bestof are about this subreddit. Both have been at or near the front page. Both comments have been given gold multiple times.

If this subreddit was truly as horrible as people say, there would be no need to convince people to not come here.

[–]Ormild 20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was actually pleased that those posts made it all the way to the top. It showed the difference between TRP subscribers and those that don't share our viewpoints. I enjoyed reading both sides to see where I stand now compared to when I first came to this subreddit. It's only been a few months and I can already see a huge difference in my standpoints and beliefs about social interaction.

[–]xiko 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you see it happening in real life? I am on the same situation as you and now I am able to see the reality as it is. There is so much cringe worth stuff happening in my friends relationship.

[–]SovereignsUnknown 29 points30 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

i just read that post of "why even a little of theredpill is rapey."

it felt really wrong reading that, since it was so full of emotional appeals. "men are stronger than women so they'll just sit and take any sort of physical 'abuse' you throw at them cause they're scared of your evil male self." MAYBE i would agree with this if every woman i've ever been aggressively physical with me didn't tell me how much they enjoyed it on a consistent basis.

it also doesn't seem to understand one of the first rules they'll teach you in self defense. size and strength are only one of many advantages, leverage is really the most important when grappling. that's why a 160 pound guy like me can easily flip or pin someone much larger (yay judo). if women feel threatened because their lack of strength, then they should learn a martial art like judo that turns higher strength into a disadvantage

[–]newsmodssuck 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

it felt really wrong reading that, since it was so full of emotional appeals

It's that ever-turning hamster wheel and illogical conclusions based on feels:

Sexual and physical assault are manipulative—here's a story about how I was groped and fondled.

/r/TheRedPill teaches men how to "manipulate" women.

Therefore, TRP is literally sexual assault!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All people manipulate others, harsh fucking truth that people don't want to hear. Shit, I tell those people that at least we're not trying the friendzone route and pretending we care all the while having the same agenda.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was fighting with people in those threads for hours and it ended with downvotes (yet few responses) and someone calling me a sociopath.

[–]SovereignsUnknown 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i didn't even bother arguing. those sorts of people don't even consider your points, and really just aren't worth the time.

the red pill doesn't really need defending, i'd rather let people come and see for themselves what it's all about. i'm more upset about the fear tactics and how many women try to use the fact that they're physically less strong as a sympathy card. that sort of thing is bad for everyone, especially the women it demeans.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If this subreddit was truly as horrible as people say, there would be no need to convince people to not come here.

I could be wrong, but I honestly think of detractors as either white knights who want to believe the bullshit, or women not wanting men to get the upper hand

[–]1FloranHunter 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I assume they are feminists that finally found something that looks like the patriarchy so they can hate something concrete instead of the fairytales they made up.

[–]Pushnikov 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice analysis, worth keeping an eye on that one.

[–]JimmyTheIntern 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh man. The comment threads on both of those posts are so fucking hilarious. If you enjoy laughing at stupidity, I highly recommend giving them a read. Made my day.

[–]Human_v2 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

As much as I agree with a lot that's posted in TRP, the arguments one woman puts forward is that we don't empathise. She says that the woman at the party could feel threatened and so choose not to show her dislike for the situation. It's pretty much impossible to disprove this line of reasoning.

It was the same thing that was posted in the 'All PIV sex is rape' thread recently. That women are coerced into things and can't speak out so they pretend they do like something. Now in that situation its clearly BS but at what point is that line crossed.

How do you rationally respond to that line of reasoning?

[–]complete_asshole_ 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the woman's responsibility to speak up if they really really don't like something. But if she's groping my dick while saying "no, please don't it's so naughty" then I'm gonna go with my gut and the hand on my dick.

[–]Pushnikov 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A) You don't.

B) RESPONSE :: As a person you have an obligation to yourself to make sure that you do what is in your best interest. If you don't speak up, then you are just as responsible as the initiating party. Yes, that other person is at fault, but you are also at fault for not objecting. A person that presumes that men are violent, threatening creatures by default when they have done nothing to ACTUALLY threaten you is NOT normal. Just because you FEEL threatened doesn't mean you ARE threatened. People touch each other. It's normal. If you don't like how someone touches you, tell them to stop. If they don't listen, ask for help. Justifying that all men are assholes because one guy did something bad is irrational. No, the world isn't perfect, you will not be treated perfectly by everyone, and you have to learn to operate with the rest of the world that doesn't particularly care that much about you as an individual. I didn't make the rules, but that is what they are. Stomping your feet and making all the men in the world to be completely evil is just going to make you look like a man hating person. Do you hate men? (Yes) Then you're irrational and not worth my time - man or woman.

[–]InterNetting 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It'd be interesting to see how many former TRP bashers have ended up subscribing.

[–]redpillshadow 27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

1800 swallowing. Hilarious how those slander threads always end up being advertisement.

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[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

sounds like an expensive phone number.

[–]craylash 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or some kinda Japanese smut marathon.

[–]RC_5213 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not enough tentacles.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn it, I was just going to make that joke...

[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Streisand Effect

[–]rykocolor28 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when /r/feminism bans anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with feminism and is looking for a discussion and not a lecture. Poor /r/feminism hahahaha

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That happens to any forum where dissent with the "Main Message" of it's founders is censored categorically.

Any and all sources of debate is effectively removed and it becomes a circle jerk hate party.

Eventually only the truly obsessed stick around to feed their obsession.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Check out http://redditmetrics.com/r/TheRedPill

We are currently at 839 new subscribers for today. Holy shit. Depending on what time zone redditmetrics is using, we may actually gain 1000 new subscribers in a single fucking day

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

to be fair this subreddit is crawling with feminist users who post links on their own subreddits; honestly as much as this stuff seems to work, I would prefer it not to go mainstream.

[–]Clauderoughly 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Which is why you report those users to the mods, who will swing the might ban penis hammer and kick them out.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really; they can subscribe and not post which is what mostly happens.

[–]Clauderoughly 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh then fuck'em. Let the babies have their bottle.

As long as they don't post, then I don't care

[–]CallMeMrBadGuy 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much exactly the same path seduction went thru beofre mainstreaming. Now, let's if it can avoid quality drops from overexposure.

[–]gg_s 83 points84 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Classic feel good bullshit.

subscribers endorsements

subscribers friends

subscribers likes

This is e-peen bullshit. Totally off-topic and miscategorized; it should have meta flair.

[–]illalla 27 points28 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

True. But it does mean publicity. And there's no such thing as bad publicity

[–]redpill_ta 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also impact. Don't forget impact.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yeah but higher subscriber numbers do not equal better content.

[–]thecajunone 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it usually means the opposite. But as I've said before, trust in the mods.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I bet if I gain publicity by standing on a street corner with a sign that says "I hate niggers!", that would be bad publicity.

[–]TheLameloid 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, you'd get Samuel L. Jackson to save your ass, that would be awesome.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why does anyone care about publicity?

The more new people in here means the sub content is going to get worse. If you're the only one who knows gane you're going to have a big advantage too.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True, but the subscriber count is one of the few ways we have of quantifying our reach.

There's some saying I've seen on TRP about how new ideas go mainstream once 10% of the population has endorsed them (anyone know who said it?)...the subscriber count is one of the few concrete ways of gauging whether TRP is gaining, losing, or stagnating.

[–]limitz 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention that in order to comment or upvote/downvote, you have to be subscribed. I bet a lot of people who are subbed don't buy into TRP at all.

Also, Reddit is like what, 80% male? Not surprising that it surpassed /r/feminism.

[–]ValiantAsPie 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention the feminism sub is also considered a joke by both sides of reddit's feminism/non feminism circles. It's practically dead in the water.

[–]x7CR7x 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I love TRP, but this is hubris.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Dont be weak. We've a right to enjoy this if only for a short while. Still plenty more work left to to if you ask me.

[–]TheEyeUrnShaft 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Work? You speak as if TRP is some consortium progressing towards a common goal. This is a forum for idea exchange, not the American spring version of twitter for organizing social revolution.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I promise to wrte a better explanation describing my position, first off to shatter the american princess brainwashing and second to show we TPers are not slave overloads who want docile slave women...at least I don't want a slave.

Edit: Work as I meant it was to make it easier for BP dummies to understand and hopefully realize what fools they are.

[–]x7CR7x 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

'Weak' , he says promoting bragging

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. Next.

[–]Xbitz 54 points54 points [recovered] | Copy Link

The Red Pill is reality, Feminism is junk science.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Do they talk science at all, though?

My experience with feminists has been based mostly in their desire to distinguish themselves from anything that would hinder their perceived freedom to exist, science being one of them.

[–]Xbitz 16 points16 points [recovered] | Copy Link

gender as a choice is the one of main tenets of feminism.

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[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In some cases it might be - and others probably not. I don't think one goes with the other though.

Regardless if a man is gay - he still is a man. That's his gender. Homosexuality is description of sexual behavior and personal identity as it relates to gender. Likewise, lesbians are still women - no matter how butch they get - they do not have a penis.

Now, I know that sex change operations exist, at that would grey up the definition somewhat, but no matter what you surgically changed yourself into you can only reproduce in a manner dictated by your birth gender. You still have the XY or XX pair you were born with.

So gender is not a choice. You cannot change your genetic makeup at least not yet.

The idea that one can be born one gender and transform themselves into the opposite gender is folly. If you were born male you can't get pregnant - and if you were born female you cannot inseminate. Anything else is really something else. It's not what it is trying to be and never will be.

That's not to say those people shouldn't have the same rights or whatever, but saying one has a gender choice simply is not factual.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dahdahdah! Keep your logic at home, shitlord.

[–]LaserSoundMusic 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The irony is, The existence of trans people, which they love so much, proves otherwise

[–]Pushnikov -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's "legal gender". Biological genetic gender doesn't change.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Am I taking crazy pills? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Politics aside (and I'm very much of the opinion that if someone wants to be gay, identify with another sex, etc., more power to them), I just can't wrap my head around the ignorance that is you have a choice in gender.

[–]ajswdf 23 points24 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I read an argument once that, no joke, science is inherently misogynistic. Since feminism is rooted in post modernism, which basically says everything is subjective, it is at odds with an institution like science that claims to be objective. I forget how they made the jump from "Science claims to be objective" to "Science is misogynistic", but it had something to do with the claim of objectivity being used to promote the status quo, which is itself misogynistic.

[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 11 points12 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I've heard that said about logic as well.

That logic is inherently misogynistic/patriarchal. And guess what? If you try to disprove that point by logic...uh... ehh....

[–]ajswdf 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Now that I think about it, they basically use the problem of induction (the only way to prove induction is true is to use induction) to argue that you can't use induction, hence everything is subjective.

[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Could you explain that in a little more technical detail?

[–]ajswdf 23 points24 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

There's two types of logic, deductive (if a, then b. a is true, therefore b is true) and inductive (I know that a ball that's thrown in the air will eventually start falling, because that's what's happened every other time). Induction is what science uses, while deductive is what math uses.

The problem of induction is that we can't know induction is an accurate way of thinking about the world, because they only way you can prove induction works is to use induction. It's impossible to answer the question "Why is induction true?" without using induction, so you're going in circles.

Post modernists (and academic feminists) answer this problem by saying that you can't use induction. And when you can't use induction, you can't know any objective facts. For example, if you tried to show a post modernist that children of poor parents tend to do worse in school by showing them studies that found a correlation between poverty and school performance, they would say the study is flawed because it uses inductive reasoning.

In short, they think that reality is subjective. You don't need induction to know you exist, and since you can't use induction what you believe to be true is just as good as what anybody else believes to be true, since nobody can use induction to prove you wrong. Therefore, truth is subjective.

The reason feminists like post modernism is because it's now impossible to show that men are superior to women. It's a pretty cowardly way to think, IMO.

Of course, post modernism is ridiculous. Even though they deny inductive reasoning, they use induction all the time. When they sit down in a chair, they use induction to know it will support them.

[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perfect. Thank you for explaining that.

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[–]ajswdf 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now that you mention it (and I'm getting on a roll), their overriding concern is equality. Equality is a fine goal (at least equality of opportunity), but the way they get to it is very wrong. They believe that if men and women are fundamentally different, then discrimination is justified. That's why they get upset when any research is done that shows any difference at all.

This is also why they embrace post modernism. When everything is subjective, it's impossible to say that one gender is superior.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There exists more than two types of logic...

[–]thecajunone 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey don't bother to mention them then.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

I much prefer game theory (which overlaps with logic in places) over logic for describing the world.

For instance, humans tend to value what is rare. Because men can produce many more babies than women, and men tend to desire sex more than women, it follows that a whole host of psychological behaviours and biological imperatives will follow from that.

This can appear as a logical statement and may fall under some logical fallacy, but that doesn't matter. My intuition and experience tells me humans value the rare and take for granted the abundant. I need no proof or reason.

Logic traditionally does not involve the prediction of general human psychology and behaviour, which makes game theory useful outside of closed systems such as mathematics.

[–]1Goomich 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Science is nothing. History is seriously misogynistic shit.

[–]Zebleblic 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They FEEL it's based on science, and FEEL they are right.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all up from here.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We might even break 30 thou today.

[–]MSoftHarem 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yawn.

[–]Miamiheat87 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Today... Is a day... That will live in infamy!"

[–]incraved 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

lol that gif, though !

[–]Rendezvous2 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's awesome because I joined today. :)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The tipping point. A long time coming. Third Wave (Marxist) feminism is inherently illogical. Its demise is inevitable. The only question is the number of destroyed lives required to defeat it.

[–]_whistler 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Viva la Résistance! Viva la Red Pill!

[–]TheEyeUrnShaft 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Viva la Résistance!

Half spanish/portuguese/italian, and half French. How cultured of you whistler.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where's my motherfucking pizza?

[–]randomkloud 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

you gonna post your next story soon?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you beta bois and femnazis. We love you too!!!

Ps. Get your balls back!

Edit: Theres a downvote brigade in action ATM. FUCK EM!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man that is fantastic news. I say we celebrate (not sure how that would work).

[–]winnnnnnnnn 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wooo! Lets get to a million! I've learned so much and got my 14 year old cousin started already! He's going to be a beast!

[–]YoHomeToBellair 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well... /r/feminism is a weird sub. And nobody really seems to go there so there anyway so there's that.

[–]omegainvictus 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism has a much larger presence in the mainstream media. I'd say this is a feel goody post. A small victory in a war. Red pill has to expand into the mainstream media a bit more before we can actually start turning the tide.

In the end, while we don't care about societal change, we might end up actually causing it.

[–]realniggasstandup 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Expected Gaben :(

[–]Totsean 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Me too brother, me too.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (34 children) | Copy Link

Probably due to the fact tat theres a lot more males on reddit

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (33 children) | Copy Link

what if I told you at least 59% of the fempire is male. Proof.

So many supplicating lapdogs hoping for female validation and poon. It's the saddest reality show ever.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

"Once again the results show a majority of SRSers are men, with 59% identifying as men and 32% identifying as women. 2% identify as nonbinary, 3% as genderqueer, 2% as unsure or questioning, and 1% as no gender."

Can't even say male or female these days because of fucking pc. "I don't have a gender." Are these people completely fucking retarded?

[–]MasterHordorBaggins 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sex. The word you are looking for is sex. The male and female sexes. They hate that word even more than gender.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's word for word quoting from the survey, don't want to know how many of the "ladies" have beards and whatnot.

Apparently when a someone is "cis" they're what we normal people call male - because anatomically male, and female because anatomically female.

Their made up words are by far the funniest part (besides their physical appearance) And most SRS males are "cis", straight and white. Self-hate must be at an all time high.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what fucks with ky mind pretty hard. Modern feminism is about de- masculine (castrate) the male. Weed out all maps influence from society, its straight up male hate, never the less the movement is packed with male supporters.

I can now see why they do it, I just can't figure out how can they handle supporting a cause that demonise then for something they can't control (having a penis)

One most really hate himself to do shit like that.

[–]entiat_blues 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

cis isn't made up. it's a latin prefix that doesn't get used much, but it's by no means a made up word.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They just like it because it makes being normal sound like a medical condition.

[–]entiat_blues 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's also used because they're avoiding the non-mathematical connotations of normal.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Nonbinary? Genderqueer?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Nonbinary might be bisexual?

No fucking idea what genderqueer is supposed to be.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not even like that, it's so much more fucked up than you could possibly imagine.
I can't really explain it because I don't fully understand it but basically nonbinary is both or neither, or maybe some third made up gender and genderqueer is some days I feel like a man, some days I feel like a lady, but everyday I'm oppressed.

the rabbit hole goes pretty deep at /r/TumblrInAction it's funny until you realize how serious these people are.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow. This is a whole new level of stupid.

[–]Clauderoughly 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

genderqueer

Genderqueer is men who dress like women, but want to still be men..and women who dress like men but still wanna be women

Neither of them have any fucking clue. They are the WORST attention whores I have ever come across.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

WTF!!!!!!!!!! This fuckin world is batshit...I just ....fuck it they are fuckin weirdo's and I don't wan't em anywhere near my little nieces and nephews. I dont give a flying fuck.

[–]likeabott -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

they don't have to be completely fucking retarded to repeat your words, but only interested in staying anonymous online.

[–]tr8 5 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

More than that and strictly technically.

According to the SRS survey they were 80% 58.2% male in 2012.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

if you actually read the statement above the charts, the 80% prcentage is for reddit as a whole. It's 59% of SRS "that identify as males" so there's probably some trans users too.

[–]velocom -4 points-4 points [recovered] | Copy Link

transmen are men, so they count the same as anyone else identifying as male.

Feminism is not viewed fondly by the MtF community; I'm not so sure about FtM transsexual people, though.

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[–]Nemester 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't care what they want to be called, born a man is a man. Born a woman, is a woman. Surgery isn't changing that and I am not changing my definitions to fit their whining.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if someone can go changing their sex, I am gonna go change my age so I can bang all the high-school seniors I want.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think if someone actually gets surgery to change their genitals into the opposite gender's, then that shows they're not just talking shit

[–]TheEyeUrnShaft 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Still doesn't make them a man

[–]Nemester 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I still wouldn't consider them different from their genetic gender.

[–]SpecialFester 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you have that backwards? I know that Female to Male are often fervently anti-feminist. There is some fascinating stuff out there that's very red pill / manosphere relevant. These women get shot up with testosterone and their testimonials is very telling and very confirming of red pill ideas. Also, their experiences once starting to live as a man contradict everything Feminism claims. They find that as women they had everything handed to them. As men, they no longer had the privilege they did as women.

No, I don't think chopping off your dick makes you a woman or taking some testosterone makes you a man, but I do think gender disorder is legit. They seem pretty sincere. And also, who would chop off their penis if they really didn't legitimately feel like they were a woman inside.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

51% of those surveyed are students, which again is in line with the results for education and age. 43% are currently employed.

Half of these people haven't even made it into the real world yet...Why is anyone listening to them in the first place??

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Every college student thinsk he has figured everything out. The self-assured arrogant tone is sure way to spot the ones that live in the fantasy bubble of tollerance and social equity.

Then they graduate and they won't have time to bitch about inane shit some other aspie said on reddit.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not working and receiving and educating is certainly a utopia. The looks of shock and awe when these scene-hipsters get when they see the real world is going to be priceless.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've hired a fair number of "fresh out of school" people for an entry level tech position. Yea, it's a shit job but we all started there. 80% don't make it through the training. Not even the work, just the month long training we have to give people.

A few stand out and are quickly promoted, but so many young people expect everything to go their way all the time. It's kind of funny when I'm not the one dealing with it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that's what non-pussy-getters (NPGs) do - they become sycophants hoping the master will reward them.

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]thecajunone 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which app?

[–]Assaultman67 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not to be a downer, but these numbers alone mean nothing without considering the male/female makeup of reddit and normalizing the results. I'm willing to bet were losing still. :/

[–]Endorsed Contributorpontifx 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This pleases me greatly

Keep reporting, keep up the content, nothing better than logging in and seeing we are trending on twitter and we surpassed feminism hahahahah

[–]bluhbluh90 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Greetings red-piller, you seem important here.

Is the red-pill what I think it is? A bunch of guys wanting to get laid as much as possible and borderline misogynistic or have I got the wrong impression entirely?

[–]P0eticJustice 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta shout out TBP for bringing me here, and helping me change my life. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart about the size of your collective IQ's :D

[–]Glorious_Master 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nice do we really want this though? what if we had 29 million subscribers?

it would probably not be as practical a philosophy as it is now.

MRA should have 29 million subscribers, trp should be hidden in plain sight, regardless of how many subscribers there are.

[–]zenmushroom 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually don't think this is much of a surprise given that there are more males on reddit and involved with internet stuff in general. In day to day, real life experiences though most people tend to favor feminism over red pill.

[–]ReturnThroughAether -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can I stop "hating women" and move out of my parents' basement now?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

no stay there pls

[–]umbringer -1 points0 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

How many of TRP subscribers are just lurking to repost to SRS, or bask in the sometimes ugly and infantile rantings of some you more verbose subscribers?

This is my first time commenting on TRP thread, just thought it should be mentioned that not all of us believe this stuff.

Edit: of course the same can be said for /r/feminism

Double Edit: I'm wondering why you folks continue to downvote me when all I said was that a subscriber doesn't necessarily equate a believer. Sheesh. I thought y'all were the ones who like the truth 'even if it hurts'.

[–]peoplesuck357 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Isn't TRP considered such "low hanging fruit" by SRS that they choose not to repost it? If they reposted these things, they'd go nuts over at /r/iamgoingtohellforthis

[–]umbringer 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't actually know, I'm only going off the accusations as made by folks around here (references to SRS, the 'downvote brigade' and various other displeased entities.) I should clarify that I am not one of these people, I don't just dish out downvotes.

I lurk, I don't completely understand why or how this way of thinking is going to be of any benefit to me or my future partner. There's moments of lucidity, but yeah. . I'm bemused by the over simplifications of gender as well all of the acronyms floating about.

[–]xiko 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't know how much experience you have with relationships. I dated for last 10 years different girls and the stuff that is said here definitely would have helped me. It resonates with a lot of stuff that I was doing wrong and my expectations. I think that trp is for people that had been damaged in relationships and expectations and here I can actually see reality as it is.

[–]umbringer 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I've plenty of experience, and I've dated many different women of all different stripes. I've also been on the shit end of relationships. The language employed here is what I find laughable. As if discussing the dynamics between men and women in a relationship context is "swallowing a pill" or "waking up from a dream". I'm glad you feel comfortable with your version of reality, but I'm not going to sit here and high five you on an epiphany you could have made yourself.

People are different. All people. This sub seems to think that there's just two types of men. I find this to be idiotic and base.

[–]xiko 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You take what you want from it and ignore the rest. That is what I do. But why are you here if you don't like it? What is your intent?

[–]umbringer 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mild fascination.

[–]peoplesuck357 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand. There are plenty of generalizations and buzzwords found in this sub. I believe that many who criticize TRP think about concepts in an all-or-nothing sort of way. I view TRP as a place to discuss theories about society & gender, and not a club or political party with a rigid set of rules to determine whether or not you fit in.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, SRS doesn't post threads from here, but SRSers post our threads in /r/thebluepill

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have been here like a year and I can't remember a single post here (at least one that actually caught attention) that linked to srs or thebluepill to create discussion. Those are parody and circlejerk subs, making a post to discuss something there would be a huge waste of time.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but you never see "ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS" and "ALL PIV SEX IS RAPE" show up in SRS...

That's because the SRS crowd are ones posting that stupid shit.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah we hear it all the time...NAWALT It gets real old.

[–]umbringer 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You'll notice that I didn't even say that. Jesus.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok to be fair you never explicitly said that but the message sounds the same. You just phrased it a different way. I'm not looking to go to war with you over this but your retort is on a shakey foundation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it counts for anything I will generally always read the downvoted comments since the reddit hivemind is strong in all sectors.

I cannot sit and cry that if I mention TRP and I get insta-down voted and then return the same behaviour to others.

So downvotes or no, people will read/see your content. Possibly more so on a sub like TRP who knows.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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