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I just got broken up with the girl who I thought I’d spend the rest of my life with. Please don’t rag on me for being so naive. We just “didn’t have chemistry” according to her. Even though we talked so, so much.

I’ve been lurking TRP for a couple of years now, the prevailing message I get is that “women are sociopaths and will use you unless you use them more” And that deeply upsets me. You people make it sound like such a thing as love is impossible.

But everything points to that.

Please for the love of god someone tell me the truth isn’t as bad as I thing it is. Please tell me there’s a good side to love. That it’s real, even if it’s not my naive Hollywood vision of love. It can’t just be simple manipulation, there has to be something more to it than that. It’s too fucking terrible


[–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

People are selfish, point blank; love can die easily if she finds a better deal. That's it, accept it and find your purpose because no women's should be your purpose in life. Once you become a man, your purpose and goals are more important than women, and you are no longer afraid to lose someone you love.

[–]Psychocist6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

> Once you become a man, your purpose and goals are more important than women, and you are no longer afraid to lose someone you love.

True. I also experienced this loss of fear over losing someone after I lost a very close relative. It trivialised all other losses. Broke up with my 1-year GF at the time and barely felt anything. Now with other women I simply don't care because even if they do leave it will be a drop in the ocean. I could catch my best friend and my girlfriend and lose both at the same time and it still wouldn't come close.

Men are not gods and women are not angels. Romantic love is not real, and love is not commitment.

You have to accept the truth. You can rely on nobody but yourself in the end. Start focusing on that relationship. It's the only one that matters.

[–]Andorli1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanos would be proud.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As corollary, I would say everything in life is based on conditional implied contracts and nothing is eternal or fairy-tale pure.

[–]X--Man70 points71 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Based on my experience, true love (between a couple) is simply a feeling/emotion, and is only real or possible "in the moment." That moment can pass at any time.

The feeling of love may be real, but it is fleeting, and not eternal by any means.

TRP is a generalization. Could you find your unicorn? Maybe? Will you? Statistically, no, you won't find a woman that will be with you the rest of your life. You likely won't even find one who wouldn't cheat on you under the right circumstances. They are good guidelines to follow, but they are not always 100% concrete, with every single woman. AWALT, is simply a good rule to follow because it is generally true. Treat all woman as if they are AWALT, and your success will go up and your failures down. In general. You don't need to give up, but you do need to be aware, and know how to see the signs/red flags, and make the right moves to work in your own favor.

Ignorance is bliss...

[–]redlittleboot18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

sadly no, welcome to the rage phase

[–]boardrider731 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha

[–]knownrebel20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

At the core - people are animals and are driven through life by their primal subconscious urges. Your idea of love is rooted at physical attraction at several levels. Part of masculine attraction is his frame, his goals, worth and value. Once any part of this attraction wanes,or she sees you're a nice guy billy beta who won't treat her as a slut and dominate her, and you're no longer considered an adequate male for providing and reproduction, you get dumped or she branch swings to a dude who's "a better man" aka more alpha. Simple, primitive and primal. A lot of people are pretty primate-like. What love could be is something much more complex and deeper, and might not be centered around physical aspect or people at all. Word of advice : Start living your own life and do what you love. Don't waste your time looking for the meaning of love on empty headed and soulless THOTS.

[–]BlackMisc19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

humans are animals

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha. It basically comes down to this

[–]knowledgelover9415 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"She's not yours, it's just your turn."

[–]Livecrazyjoe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He needs to say this to himself over and over. Trust me op it works.

[–]resnine10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends on how you define TRUE love. If you mean that we all have soulmates and that there is one person made for each other us. I think this is more a question about God's existence than anything else. But it's interesting, you may think this girl at this time is true love and that she is the only girl for you. I know I felt this before, it's biological, us men are wired to attach onto a mate and protect her. We are not unique special snowflakes. Hey man, it is what it is. More or less, we are just experiencing a series a chemical reactions as sad as that seems. And this special girl who you think could never be replaced is more than likely going to mean nothing to you in a year or so when a better girl pops up that makes you wonder why you gave two shits about the girl you are currently sad about.

[–]knownrebel14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That last bit is particularly good, I have to agree. And I'd like to add for the OP: This same girl you're sad about, will be riding the cock carousel like there's no tomorrow, and some chad might be plowing her as we type this. So, whenever you get the blues about her, just imagine that lovely carousel spinning, and chad railing her like a slut. Now use that anger and go devastate some weights or do a bunch of push ups. Use it to improve yourself. Bigger SMV, more bitches, less blues.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Hang on genius.

You browse TRP over the year and never read the SIDE BAR?

instanly 2 articles will explain

  • Women In love ( SIDEBAR )
  • Men In love ( SIDEBAR )
  • Briffaults Law

Perfectly explains it, women are not socio paths and can experience emotional chemistry and attachment

so long as Briffaults law remains ACTIVE

[–]1DonaldBaelish11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He didn't read shit.

Just look at the way he starts off his post. "She said we didn't have chemistry, even though we talked so, so much."

We don't preach talking here. Talking never solved relationship issues. It's in the sidebar. It's in the thousands of posts here.

OP lurked Pornhub.

[–]El_Serpiente_Roja0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Savage

[–]MrBowlfish22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The truth isn't as bad as you think it is. This girl was not attracted to you, for whatever reason. When a girl is attracted to you, she can fall madly in love.

[–]flowrider007 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We are taught as children that love is unconditional. That people who don't love unconditionally are "selfish and cruel". The truth is, everything comes with conditions. We negotiate overt and covert contracts everyday.

There are exceptions to all rules. But even your family would abandon you past a certain point. This is not horrible. This is freeing because it means the people that do stick around long term, despite you ______ are worth having in your life.

[–]FlyingSexistPig5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

True love isn't real, for women. When a woman says something like "I will love you forever", you have to tack on the clause, "right now" to the end of it. She does feel like she will love you forever, but it has conditions. The condition is that you continue to be lovable in her eyes.

The Red Pill can help you to understand what it is to be lovable in her eyes (hint: it's not your great communication or how in touch with your emotions you are. It's how well you're able to provide for her and protect her and lead her)

You talked to her a lot, so you're a great friend. Good for you. But that won't help her to love you.

There are 5 stages to grief. You experience grief whenever your world view is altered by reality. It's common to start with denial, the stage you're in now. "It simply can't be true that love doesn't exist". When your denial fails, because the world really IS different than your previous world view, you get angry, "I can't believe I was such a sucker to believe that women could love me." This gives way to bargaining: "Love does exist, but you have to give it space to let it breathe", etc. etc. There's depression and finally acceptance. You might bounce around through these stages, but they're coming, and you have to go through them all. You can't shortcut straight to acceptance. You have to experience the pain or your worldview won't change and you're taking the blue pill again.

[–]hazaraMoghul2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nicely answered 👍🏼

[–]Kenny_Twenty 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Wait, you think true love IS real for men?

[–]FlyingSexistPig3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes. I think that a man will lay down his life for a woman, if he is in love with her. I think that a man will lay down his life for another man, if he thinks of that man as a brother. Wars are won and lost because of this.

"You know Chuck; he's family. He'd lie down in fuckin' traffic for you"
-- Robin Williams' character in Good Will Hunting

[–]Kenny_Twenty 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I disagree strongly. Maybe SOME men would lay their lives down for women but I'd consider them misguided and honestly, weak. Nor do I think wars are won or lost based on the nature of the love you perceive men to have for women. I guess you're trying to establish a comparison of men's resolve and passion and camaraderie to love men have for women but I don't think that's an accurate comparison at all.

The notion of unconditional love isn't really supported by TRP, either.

[–]FlyingSexistPig2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wasn't saying that wars were won or lost because of a man's love for a woman. I was saying that a man's loyalty to another man would make him sacrifice himself to save others.

But there are many men who have sacrificed literally everything they had for a woman.

[–]lookoutitscaleb4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a very similar experience one time. My family is incredibly religious. I took shrooms and stayed up tripping all night. The next morning I met my family and went to church with them. Sleep deprived and with mushroom fumes.

I had a moment where I realized Love was the lie. It's a way to control us and keep us under. The more I thought about it as a method of manipulation and way to control the masses the more sense it made. I don't know how much I truly believe it but it seems to be very true the more I meditate on the idea.

What I came to the conclusion of is more so your idea of what love is, is what is false. Love exists, true love exists. Love is much deeper than emotions of feeling good. To truly love someone you accept them fully for who they are, flaws and all. You can't love someone if you don't love yourself. If you love yourself you are complete without another person. So it folds on itself multiple times. There are 4 different types of love in the Greek Language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Loves

What in my opinion you're struggling with is the destruction of the Western love that you have been indoctrinated with. The "hollywood love" you speak of. When you finally love yourself will be when you realize what real love is. You're in a transitional phase, this too will pass.

[–]Avesatanie3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

True love is possible and real: love yourself.

[–]idkntbhidc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nuff said

[–]rockstarsheep3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think JBP defines love quite well in this.

Yes, it feels like shit right now. The relationship meant something to you. Things will get better. Just don't fixate on it. You'll just feel worse. There's more to life. Now go and live it.

[–]Helpcalculus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What is love?

[–]resnine3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Baby don't hurt me... no moh

[–]soulmysold3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Analyze it. What: Serotonin, Oxytocin and dopamine. Why: Body's way of forcing you to pass on your genetic code.

To you it may feel like something deep, it's only years and years of evolution.

Doesn't make it any less real?

You can get the same chemical high from any other female. Hell, you can get oxytocin from a dog easily.

Don't let it depress you, be a man, be in control of your emotions. There is always someone better.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Define your terms. Love as you see it is not real. That is love like from your mommy or unconditional love.

Love within the bounds of the male and female imperatives is possible. Love as a verb. An action. Actions exist NOW, not as a platonic ideal in space.

As long as you fit the ideal she can love you...now.

You thought this chick was your soul and feels mate but I bet a big part of that was you liked to fuck her, right? Like all this sympathy shit, feelings, etc cant really be divorced from you liking to hit it. Thats the difference between a friend and girlfriend after all, right? If she blew up to 500 lbs something wouldnt be there, even if intellectually you liked her. Those qualities you liked would have a different context.

Well, it's the same with her. Being weak and out of control is gaining 500lbs of emotional bitch weight for men. And it dries them up as fast as a 500 lb cellulite whale in bbq sauce stained yoga pants with "juicy" on the ass makes your dick shrink.

Once that happens the chemistry is gone and "love" cant happen. Because love is a verb in the moment.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove14 points15 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's absolutely real, ignore the guys here who say otherwise. Even with all the TRP internalizing and practicing it for years, you are going to find a girl that is quality and one you want to spend time with and you'll get into an LTR. And if/when that LTR ends, its going to sting. No matter how much TRP you apply. Trust me, I've been there.

Anyone who claims it won't hurt or doesn't hurt is a liar. Ignore those fake alphas. So you are telling me you spend months with a quality girl and have a lot of fun moments, experiences and memories with her, and when it ends you are just going to be able to move on without any pain? Get the fuck out of here.

From my experience, its going to hurt. You'll be down, depressed and sad. But where TRP helps is that you get over it so much quicker than without TRP. I know my breakups pre-TRP it would take me months to get over it. My sole LTR breakup after TRP, it hurt, badly, but it only took a few days for me to get over it. Because TRP provides optimism, hope and motivation going forward as well as explanation and reasoning for why things happened.

I think the real pain was having to start over. It's fun to game women, have options, spin plates. But there is something about finding a quality girl who is more than that, and there are things you can only do with a girl you've gotten that far with, which takes time.

[–]abh9852 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

amen bro

I swear to god some of these guys don't live in the real world and spend too much time online.

Love is just a primal emotion biologically felt by EVERY human being. It's literally impossible for men or women to not feel love or loved barring literal sociopaths

[–]theWay_she_goes_boys-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Get yo ass outta here with that blue-pill drivel and your oneitis fairy-tales.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's really not.

I don't care how alpha and how much TRP you have internalized. Having a solid LTR end when you didn't want it to end will sting no matter what. That's not being blue pill, that's being a human.

What TRP does is help you get over it quickly. Mourn it for a few days, wallow if you need to, and then move on. TRP gives you the playbook to rebound.

[–]TheBrokenRuler 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

This guy is referring to "quality women", aka unicorns... you really will not find one. There aren't any tbh

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are no unicorns.

There are women however who have fewer red flags than others.

If there weren't, why even discuss LTRs on TRP?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Buy yourself a dog man, and stop being such a pussy or it will chase you to death.

[–]phenixgold2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong sub to ask that

[–]3chazthundergut2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True love and absolute commitment are 100% real.

But they don't come from chicks.

True love is the love you must have for yourself.

Absolute commitment is what you must give to your purpose.

So take all your frustration and anger and self-pity and put it all under the squat rack you thirsty bitch.

[–]MisunderstoodAsian1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. It's not. And if you go through life believing it is, you're gonna have a rough time.

[–]NeezaPatricia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

a woman will cling to you no matter what if she's way below your league. even that, if the ugly woman you settled with fortunately found a "better" guy also wanting to date a girl way below his league, then she'll replace you.

[–]Bear-With-Bit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was there, man. All in. Met a beautiful girl, asked her out, she became my girlfriend, we moved in together, we got a puppy together, I proposed, got married... then divorce talks in less than 5 months of marriage.

And you know what?

I was fucking lucky.

THAT was slavery. THIS is freedom.

I hope you're ready willing and able to start this journey.

[–]mrHappyPotatoe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What points to that? Disney?

[–]Wrath_of_Trump1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Genghis Khan proved true love is a myth

[–]Casd122 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Love according to you is loyalty, get a dog.

[–]purplefidgetmidget1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can a parent love a child, knowing that the child will eventually leave and start their own life?

Is it really love if that happens?

Yes. Remember, it's just your turn. So you can have "love" while it lasts.

Love is really just bliss where you're happy with one girl enough that you don't need a harem and you don't long for something else.

[–]idkntbhidc0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The beginning of this post is fire

[–]RedPilledRoaster1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True love? The fuck is that?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Even though we talked so, so much

well that's one thing you can work on

It’s too fucking terrible

let me guess: raised by a single mom?

[–]resnine0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Let me ask you here, I was raised by a single mom. Why does it sting so much more being raised that way? Is it the fact that she is trying to make her son beta? So then he gives himself away to feminism, and therefore has no mental defenses when she drops him like a bag of garbage?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that works

[–]mega_kook0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Less chance of having a red pill helpful male influence if there is no father. The son will become misguided. You are basically right.

[–]resnine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, the mom doesn't prepare her son for the onslaught of female manipulation and heart-ache. It's almost like they are willfully blind to their own ways. They don't want to admit how they actually hurt guys.

[–]BurnieSlander0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

We just “didn’t have enough chemistry” according to her, even though we talked so, so much.

You talked too much. Law of power #4: Always say less than is necessary.

Women don’t want a man who is chatty- that’s what women have girlfriends for. They want mystery. They want a man they can’t quite figure out. They want a man of ACTION, not words. Know when to shut up.

Time to stop lurking and start learning.

And yes love exists but not in the way you think it does.

[–]resnine0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Was going to say this too. Less is always more. Talk less, of course develop a relationship but don't ever give away your mystery. Trickle down the information. Don't let her have all the pieces right away. He thinks chatting with a girl for hours will win her over.... I use to think this too. It's an easy mistake to make but it will cost you.

[–]ashleyshafer270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to heartbreak hotel kiddo. Everyone has checked in before, better for you to swallow the pill now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men can love women. Women cannot love men. At least not in the way we want. Head over to /r/mrp and check it out. It's a sub that has men who love their women but use TRP principles to maintain a happy and harmonious union and to minimize their hypergamy by triggering the alpha strategy within the relationship.

[–]huge_gap0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The truth is as bad as you fear. You can still love and have good relationships though.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But everything points to that.

I can't even tell whether you mean towards love being real or not being real.

If you mean 'being real', you're gonna need to pony up your own evidence.

Love, my friend, IS real, in the same way every emotion is 'real', but it's not unconditional. That's the point you're swirling around. Her love is always conditional on you being the best deal she can get.

Not to get too Morpheus, but how do you evrn define real. 'Is it real' is not even an interesting question. Ask yourself more actionable questions, like 'how to establish continued attraction and loyalty'.

[–]Deep_freeze2020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It depends on how you define love, if by true love you mean the fairytale idealized fantasy of meeting your soulmate having an instant powerful connection so strong that you just know they are the one, followed by marriage kids builing a home and living happily ever after..... Then no, it doesn't exist.

If you mean meeting a woman you have a genuine connection with and having a long term relationship until you both inevitably change and grow apart resulting in the end of said relationship, then yes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Love is real but not in the way you want it to be / were taught.

I love you from a woman = I need you in this moment.

You are loved by your parents, grandparents etc. but you give your true, platonic love to your woman, child and pet. It goes like this:

Birth family->you->your family. No woman will truly love you unless you are always a 10/10 Chad, and even then it's just lust not love.

[–]agree-with-you1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love you both

[–]Cmdrj-nice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True love is as real as a unicorn

[–]The_Lightskin_Wonder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a such thing as true love, but people don't speak of the truths that follow it. True love is not something that is destined to happen, or some magical soul binding phenomenon. True love is simply an emotion caused by a chemical that two partners happen to share at the same level, which does allow to partners to stick together longer than most, but it is not some guarantee, and love is such an intense emotion. It may always feel like true love but more times than not, the feeling is mutual but not equal.

Were human beings, but we are animals. We have instincts, feelings, and goals of our own. You can't blame someone for going for what they want, and you definitely can't blame yourself either.

In this case she's not wrong to lose feelings for you and do something about it, and you're not wrong for still having those feelings; but you are wrong to think that what we do here is manipulation. you are wrong to think that there might not be a good side to love. In actuality you experienced the good side to love already, you just werent prepared to face the bad side, or even believe there is a bad side to love. Name on things in the entire universe that lasts forever? even black holes die at some point.

What we speak of in here isn't some temporary trick or some game, it's truth. We strategize about what's really going on in the world and how to deal with it. We aren't here to tell you that you can't find love; we are here to tell you that you can find love, but it's not what you lived your life believing it to be. Accept it and it will make things less confusing and easier on you.

[–]mega_kook0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Learn to love yourself and don’t get too invested with other people’s opinions of you cause you can’t control that. You can only control yourself, so TRP is all about making yourself the best person you can be and not letting anyone or anything(like a breakup) hold you back from feeling how you want to and doing what you want to get done in life. It seems you let yourself fall for this girl way too fast. You stooped to her level, fell under her spell and entered her frame. That’s why a breakup like this will hurt so much for you, because you gave her the power in the relationship and just let her hurt you. Real connections (or love, whatever you want to call it) come from both of you having an equal amount of trust and investment in each other. If you are really trying to have a stable relationship, you need balance and commitment from both sides. Most of us in TRP don’t like long term or serious relationships because we can’t guarantee our partner will be as committed as us, so if they decide to end it then it’s devastating because you were too committed. Gain experience with as many women as you can and build up a resistance to getting hurt by them. This is called abundance mentality. When you are finally confident in yourself then try another serious long term relationship.

[–]hazaraMoghul0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am just amazed with the fact you are a red pill and yet suffering a beta bitch issue.

[–]Morphs_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well my friend, now you finally understood why this is called The Red Pill, and why it's hard to swallow. Swallowing the pill means accepting these truths for what they are.

They will fuck with your mind and your vision on the world. Just like Neo (you have seen The Matrix, have you?) you have to wake up and relearn the world in this new light.

It's hard, you'll probably get into the anger phase. But you'll be alright and eventually you'll enjoy life better than before.

[–]TheStumblingWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not that love is impossible as such, it's that the definition you've been spoonfed by popular media is completely wrong.

I explain it away with the fact that I think love is really just attraction. To me that explains relationships/marriages that die slowly because people let themselves go.

[–]mushroom_overlord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Love exists. It exists as a feeling because of chemicals in your brain. It exists as an evolved mechanism for pair bonding. That doesn't mean it can't be meaningful, it just means it's subjective to your interpretation. Pair bonding can be meaningful to you, or maybe it's bullshit. Depends on what you want.

True love is Hollywood lies. There is no "one" and this moment there exist many women you would be happy being with and could love given the right circumstances. The fact is, you are going to have failed relationships when you thought you found the perfect girl, and people who you have feelings for who feel nothing back and never will, or will fall out of those feelings. You might be that person to someone else.

Pick yourself back up and move on. And remember, there are two pills, many would pick the blue and maybe be happier, but the red is available for the taking.

Edit: To address a few points I forgot:

We just “didn’t have chemistry” according to her. Even though we talked so, so much.

It happens. Talking does not equal attraction, which therefore cannot be negotiated. Pick yourself up and move on, this was inevitable. RP can help with building attraction in the future.

I’ve been lurking TRP for a couple of years now, the prevailing message I get is that “women are sociopaths and will use you unless you use them more”

All people are utilizing other people. It helps, however, to give something in return or to avoid taking too much and alerting others to your deviance, which is why most people do not exhibit antisocial behaviors, including women. It's society, plain and simple. Only the really skilled socio/psychopaths succeed, most are easily picked out and live more miserably. You're going to make some selfish decisions in your life when you aren't going to be punished by society, as are women, because despite being selfish creatures you have an innate understanding of the system.

[–]cptgoatsack0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. That's just you tripping off chemicals released by your brain.

[–]Datanami0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rollo Tomassi addresses this very question in the first chapter of his book The Rational Male, which is an absolute must read.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You now get to define what "love" is to you. you thought it was the Disney Dream, raindrops on roses....

Welcome to the desert of the real.

You've been given the gift of vision...

"And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he regained his sight"

Don't be like Cypher. You can't go back.

You've not been doing shit on here for a few years. start over. From the beginning. Because you're not getting it.

[–]wkndatbernardus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think love is a decision/action you make over and over again. Like Aristotle said, love (highest form of friendship) is the act of willing the good for another so, there is something temporary about it. It has to be renewed over and over. Like fitness, you don't just wake up one day and say, "I'm fit so, I don't have to go back to the gym." Of course that would be ridiculous. Fitness, like love or happiness or any virtue, takes continual action done at a high level.

What you seem to be talking about is more like infatuation, what we would commonly refer to as being "in love". Certainly this infatuation can aid us in loving another object (in this case, a woman) but it shouldn't be mistaken for the virtue of love (charity) itself that transcends the emotions evoked by infatuation.

[–]red13blue40 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, you can truly love yourself.

[–]hawkeaglejesus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You people make it sound like such a thing as love is impossible

Your masculine idea of "love" that is unchanging and uncompromising "love you for the rest of our lives through sickness and in health" kind of love doesn't exist. At least not from this generation of women.

Love for women in the modern age is about as binding as a cellphone contract. It exists only as long as you're providing her with what she needs, and if a better contract comes along she'll sure as shit take the early termination fee to hop on the better deal.

[–]chadjugo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

FUCK NO!

There are many people in this world that you will experience “true love” with. And if you quantify something considered nominal, then love is just another glorified n count

[–]AtlasCuckd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

First off, welcome to partially swallowing the pill. You're not there yet. What tells me that is your response to her citing lack of chemistry "we talked so, so much". You're missing the point entirely. Attraction isn't a choice.

You might relapse, however we'd like you to be conscious of that. In fact, you NEED to be conscious of that, or anything for that matter to be a successful self-aware man. So hit the sidebar and start reading.

And for the love of all that's good, don't tell this girl or your friends that you are on TRP. If you think this story was a rude awakening, just wait til you find out who your REAL friends are.

If you got questions, DM me. Not to whine, but to learn. Otherwise, there's a lot of knowledge here and you will get good advice. Good luck brother

[–]abh985-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course it is real..

TRP just tells explains the SMV to you and advocates self-improvement to look more attractive. I was always "red-pilled" since I was like 10 without even realizing what it meant until it blew up on the internet.

Some of the posts on TRP are gold mines and some are borderline retarded. Take it with a pinch of salt. Love is just emotional attachment to a person over shared bonds and memories or a blood relation. Nothing else. It exists just like any other abstract emotion does.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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